View Full Version : Obama Lets Big Buisness Dodge Health Reform
Islandborn
10-07-2010, 02:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/business/07insure.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
NYT: Obama lets firms dodge health reforms - Health - The New York Times - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39548132/ns/health-the_new_york_times)
BLINK.
Sooooooooooooooo, Instead of enforcing the nationally unpopular mandates and standards for insurers that congress passed in Obamacare, Kathleen Sebelius and the White House blinked in the face of bad press and exempted DOZENS of companies from the law. If the market place had uncertainty before, Obama and cronies have now made it much, much, worse.
oldhaole
10-07-2010, 04:10 PM
Please allow some quotes from your artical. Since it appears you only got as far as the headline.
Several leading insurers, including WellPoint, Aetna and Cigna, have also objected to new rules requiring them to cover even those children who are seriously ill, warning that they will stop selling new policies in some states because the rules do not protect them from having to cover too many sick children.
nice quote.
Seems the health insurers don't want to cover children. But it's ok with you right?
want another? fine by me
Nancy-Ann DeParle, the director of the Office of Health Reform at the White House, acknowledged that the concessions given to companies and insurers reflected attempts to avoid having people lose their current coverage before the full law goes into effect while meeting the aim of improving that coverage
??It is a balancing act,? Ms. DeParle said. ??The president wants to have a smooth glide path to 2014.?
So the President handed out some waivers to companies like Mc Donalds so they did not drop their employees meager coverage. The Inhumanity!!!
Did you read about the house in Tennesee, that the fire dept would not put out and let burn to the ground because the poor bastard did not pay $75.00.
Thats the world you want to drag us into.
Once again, like so many times before....You Have Nothing.
stra8outtaWeed
10-07-2010, 04:39 PM
Obama-care is a joke.....he nor any of his cabinet has never met a payroll...all this bill will do is raise rates on businesses to cover employees who will just see deduductibles rise and coverage shrink....the democrats want us all to drink their Kool-Aid...as a quote from Nancy Pelosi..."We need to pass this bill(Obama-care)so we can see whats in it....well they are finding out that it is basically a political death sentence just like not voting on the tax hikes they want prior to elections....and the sources you have quoted are basically platforms that push the liberal democrats agenda bashing any form of conservatism and common sense!
oldhaole
10-07-2010, 04:53 PM
That is what it boils down to. If you think it is ok to let people die in the street because they can't pay for treatment then the status quo is fine for you. Hope you have money.
Missed the part where Obama care, as you call it, will shrink the deficit by 145billion huh?
As a progessive I was hoping for the public option. Didn't happen.
I am fortunate to live in a state where if you work more than 20 hours a week, your employer must provide health insurance. About 85% of our population has health insurance. Want to guess in what state people have the longest life spans?
Aloha Brudda.
Islandborn
10-07-2010, 05:33 PM
WHAT PEOPLE are dying in the streets dude??????? Even freakin HOMELESS people with NO MONEY received medical treatment in Emergency rooms across the country before the joke that is Obamacare. ALL THE TIME and everyday.
SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE LAW?????? In the real world, this will further perpetuate Obama's policies of a John Edwards America- those with the connections and power that can get out from under the YOKE of Obamacare's laws, and those poor suckers like all of us who can't.
THAT'S OBAMA'S AMERICA.
On a side note.....had I quoted anymore from the articles I would have been accused of copyright infringement or cut and paste to distort words by the usual suspects from the usual side groups on here. Nice try though.:pimp:
oldhaole
10-07-2010, 06:43 PM
In the US 8.25 people per thousand die in what is called an unattended death.
Cuba has less unattended deaths than the US at 7.25 per 1000. We also got"beat" by powerhouses like Costa Rica, and Nicaragua. Just because you don't kick their corpses on your walk home does't mean it doesn't happen daily.
Apparently you also begrudge homeless people going to the hospital for EMERGENCY care too. And that is all they recieve is EMERGENCY care. No perventive care, Fix what is broken and see ya next week. Do you think this is an effective system?
John Edwards America? We call that a strawman attack. It means you have no cognisant arguement and resort to attacking an empty suit.
The people with connections and power or all on your side. And they want it all. Need I remind you of your last Hero? Herr Bush. Two unpaid for wars, one because he wanted to. And that was just fine with you. Tax cuts for rich people? No problem. Trickle down wealth effect. Well somthing trickled down but it was not money. And it smelled bad too.
You can't see it yet but the group of the Republican Party that seems to be energizing it is actualy destroying it. Demographics is also killing it too. Look at your rallies. Old white people, scared out of their minds because a black man is president.
Anyway... you broke it, now you own it. And you still got nothing
Islandborn
10-08-2010, 03:19 AM
Is this a serious response? Have you ever even stepped foot in Cuba dude? Cause I sure have and guess what.......it's a SHIT hole that people make rafts outta empty 2 liter bottles to escape......in SHARK INFESTED water.......yea bro.......CUBA is the place to be. Its comments like this that truly depend on people being uneducated and untraveled. Fucking Cuba...........unreal.:wtf3:
Islandborn
10-08-2010, 03:21 AM
Too funny. Cuba. :S5:
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