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[stevew247365]

Okay so basically i've been in Diversion for a DUI for the past 4 months or so..I quit smoking for about 45+ days, got completely clean and slipped up at by smoking at Wiz Khalifa concert . Only took a small hit or two, now from my understand and what i've been reading atleast; is that a hit or two shouldn't be in your system for very long at all. I'm about 160 pretty skinny dude, high metabolism, and like I said I wasn't smoking for a good period of time. I decided it would be a good idea to stock up on the THC strip's and I test myself periodically. From what i've been reading on the strips is negative everytime after waiting 3-4 days each time. so me being the pot head i am I decided to smoke every thursday night BUT only like a hit or two and then I stop til next thursday (thursday is my class night; and only time to have a UA). My question is now that I'm learning that the UA strip's are only detectable of .50 nanogramsTHC or more wtf?. Should I be worried because I can't have any THC what so ever in my system. or is less than .50nano's a day to day thing to get out? i'm confused...please help.

[Burnt Toast]

Even though theres a cutoff level, home tests and all other assay screens only state "Positive" or "Negative" and have no ability to yield quantitative values. Therefore, it only matters if the result reads Pos or Neg.

[stevew247365]

Yeah I didn't realize there was a cut off level..so whats the cut off level for urine being sent to a lab?

[Burnt Toast]

Yeah I didn't realize there was a cut off level..so whats the cut off level for urine being sent to a lab?

That would depend on the client that is paying for the U/A.

But in most cases, the initial assay is 50 ng. If the sample fails that, it undergoes the confirmation GC/MS test with a 15 ng cutoff limit. The GC/MS would be able to issue a quantitative value.

Many POs (in some states in which have no law requiring confirmation testing), in an effort to save a buck, dont bother with confirmation testing. This can be bad news for a probationeer/parolee, who had taken an OTC med that triggered a positive for THC or any other illicit drug on an assay. Without any confirmation testing to overrule the assay positive, the probationeer/parolee can have his/her status revoked and sent back into custody for simply taking the wrong med at the wrong time.

[stevew247365]

okay thanks for the reply's, my last question is how long would it generally take to get from the .50ng to .15ng, are we talking days of exercise and lots of water? or can take up to a whole week?

[stevew247365]

okay thanks for the reply's, my last question is how long would it generally take to get from the .50ng to .15ng, are we talking days of exercise and lots of water? or can take up to a whole week?

or actually 0.0 for that matter..

[Burnt Toast]

okay thanks for the reply's, my last question is how long would it generally take to get from the .50ng to .15ng, are we talking days of exercise and lots of water? or can take up to a whole week? A 50 ng assay screen is functionally equivalent to the 15 ng GC/MS. Their cutoffs numerically differ because the assay screen recognizes all 31 metabolite concentrations combined; while the GC/MS only recognizes one metabolite concentration: THC-COOH.

Exercise is only helpful in the weeks leading up to the test. Exercise should be avoided entirely 3 days before the U/A. Exercise burns fat cells, which releases the stored THCA into the bloodstream. The kidneys filter the THCA from the bloodstream and deposits them into the bladder. For 3 days you want the body to go into "storage mode" by not exercising, eating large meals and being lazy as possible to avoid releasing a bunch of THCA into the bloodstream, which will end up in the urine to be detected.

Drinking a bunch of water days or weeks before the U/A is of no help. THC is fat-soluble and not water-soluble. Therefore you cannot "wash away" THC from your body like you can wash away dirt from your car. Pounding home gallons of water daily may cause frequent urination, but it has no effect on the rate in which THCA is filtered from the bloodstream by the kidneys.
Drinking water is only helpful on the morning of the U/A as part of a dilution technique. Dilution techniques serve to dilute the THCA concentration thats present in the bladder, to where the urine sample registers below the cutoff limits of the assay screen. Dilution techniques are only temporary. Once all of the fluids consumed had all been urinated out, the "dirty" donor will resume testing positive for THC.

[stevew247365]

Okay thanks for the info, so I just wanna get this straight and make sure were on the same page. The UA's I take are paid for, sent to a lab, I pay 25 dollars (not sure if their paying a part of it, but I doubt it) so I mean the test probably isn't too extensive. Yet it is a lab.. So who know's.

Anyways the test strip's I get from the smoke shops, if they comeback negative I can still fail with the same piss sent to lab? correct? I can give myself a extra week to clean up so it's not a big issue i'm just more then curious. Originally I thought the strip's were as good as a lab test.