Arnold signs new law

[mikeyman]

yesterday the terminator signed in a pot bill.Doesn't he see we are on the verge of legalization.WTF:rastasmoke:

[Ub3rB0ng]

no duh,how bout posting in one of the other threads about it ;)

[ZeroWingX]

It might not pass, I hope to god it doesn't its not nearly as great as you think, go Read my Post Jack had Dream, it clearly underlines the truth about prop 19. Read that and if you still want yes, well I question if your a current Medical user, because 19 strips EVERY AND ALL MEDICAL BENEFITS that Jack and Denis faught to get for us. Thats like spitting on the Mans grave.
One Love...
:rastasmoke:

[khyberkitsune]

It might not pass, I hope to god it doesn't its not nearly as great as you think, go Read my Post Jack had Dream, it clearly underlines the truth about prop 19. Read that and if you still want yes, well I question if your a current Medical user, because 19 strips EVERY AND ALL MEDICAL BENEFITS that Jack and Denis faught to get for us. Thats like spitting on the Mans grave.
One Love...
:rastasmoke:

Excuse me? Nothing medical gets stripped away from you. Do you even understand how our legal system works? There's nothing in Prop 19 that overrides Prop 215 or SB420, NOR DOES IT HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO.

[mikeyman]

yea prop 19 will make it ok for recreational use for folks 21 or older.Just like beer

[mikeyman]

yea but yesterday Arnold signed a bill that says they can't put you in jail for a small amount of pot.I guess theyfinally realized the courts could save money .
What a bunch of clowns we have running our state

[ZeroWingX]

Excuse me? Nothing medical gets stripped away from you. Do you even understand how our legal system works? There's nothing in Prop 19 that overrides Prop 215 or SB420, NOR DOES IT HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO.

Here is a question.... have you read 19?
I have top to bottom, EVERY sentence... and yes about a good 95% of Medical laws are instantly stripped from patients. So yes it does have the right, and it will come November if Voted in. Don't believe me? Re- Read what you think you read and youll start to notice you didn't read the bill quite as well as you thought you did.
One example right here. As of now Medical Marijuan Patients have no laws against them smoking in public, as this is considered medicating , same as popping a asprin. As soon as 19 passes smoking in public whether you have a Medical card or not, WILL BE ILLEGAL! you dont consider that a nullification? Think sir before you open your mouth, just because you THINK you know the law I promise you I know it that much better. (not to be a dick)
This is just one example. They are sugar coating Laws that void Medical laws instantly and people like you don't see them and thats how the Government passes things right under your nose and you smile and agree...
Educate before you try bashing sir.
One Love
:rastasmoke:

[ZeroWingX]

yea but yesterday Arnold signed a bill that says they can't put you in jail for a small amount of pot.I guess theyfinally realized the courts could save money .
What a bunch of clowns we have running our state

And even that has Loop holes I just red that bill. nd when I say its Looped holed... Go read it... Enough said...

[Ub3rB0ng]

Excuse me? Nothing medical gets stripped away from you. Do you even understand how our legal system works? There's nothing in Prop 19 that overrides Prop 215 or SB420, NOR DOES IT HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO.


if you read his other posts you will clearly see he is a moronic troll,dont feed the troll hehe :jointsmile:

[ZeroWingX]

yep go ahead sheep bahhh baahhh see ya at the chopping block, idiot...

[ZeroWingX]

I'm Over it you all seem so damn set in your Idiot ways, go Vote Yes and f^&* everything up, when you regret it i'll be there to smile and say I told ya so... Sheep...

[Ub3rB0ng]

I'm Over it you all seem so damn set in your Idiot ways, go Vote Yes and f^&* everything up, when you regret it i'll be there to smile and say I told ya so... Sheep...

Whaaaa go cry a river while the whaabulance comes for you,my little kids whine less than you.

[ZeroWingX]

Whaaaa go cry a river while the whaabulance comes for you,my little kids whine less than you.

I'm not whining, hahaha ur comedy bro... OK well this is about as helpful as driving without a Steering wheel, look you have your side I have mine so lets keep this Civil shall we?
If my stance is a little to aggressive I apologize.
I'm just trying to make people see this isnâ??t for us, its for these Corporations who are about to make millions off us

[Ub3rB0ng]

hehe read my other posts before you trip out ;) I could care less if they make millions as long as they dont come around me ;) ill be fine and dandy with my lil 5x5 piece of paradise in multiple locations.

[ZeroWingX]

hehe read my other posts before you trip out ;) I could care less if they make millions as long as they dont come around me ;) ill be fine and dandy with my lil 5x5 piece of paradise in multiple locations.

LoL dang u got Land like that huh? thats chill wish I had that...

[Ub3rB0ng]

thats what happens when you come from a family of norcal farmers hehe :) over 2k acres. on 2 locations

[ZeroWingX]

thats what happens when you come from a family of norcal farmers hehe :) over 2k acres. on 2 locations

Nice, guess us SoCal Urban Growers are just unfortunate and screwed. Suxs to be us... "Tax measure on the Nov. 2 ballot would impose an annual tax of $600 per square foot on indoor marijuana cultivation of up to and including 25 square feet, and a $900-per-square-foot tax for anything larger.

The tax, which makes no distinction between medical and recreational cultivation, would cost a resident $15,000 a year if he or she cultivates pot in a 5-foot-by-5-foot growing space indoors."
This is the price tage for indoor ops here very very soon.But kool for you Nor-Cal Farmers, thanks for thinking about us who arn't so fortunate :thumbsup:

[Ub3rB0ng]

Nice, guess us SoCal Urban Growers are just unfortunate and screwed. Suxs to be us... "Tax measure on the Nov. 2 ballot would impose an annual tax of $600 per square foot on indoor marijuana cultivation of up to and including 25 square feet, and a $900-per-square-foot tax for anything larger.

The tax, which makes no distinction between medical and recreational cultivation, would cost a resident $15,000 a year if he or she cultivates pot in a 5-foot-by-5-foot growing space indoors."
This is the price tage for indoor ops here very very soon.But kool for you Nor-Cal Farmers, thanks for thinking about us who arn't so fortunate :thumbsup:


Sigh,that wasnt a shot at you or anything,just simply answering your question. Besides the only ones complaining about anything are those of you out there using growing and selling as your primary means of income.

[mikeyman]

Here is a question.... have you read 19?
I have top to bottom, EVERY sentence... and yes about a good 95% of Medical laws are instantly stripped from patients. So yes it does have the right, and it will come November if Voted in. Don't believe me? Re- Read what you think you read and youll start to notice you didn't read the bill quite as well as you thought you did.
One example right here. As of now Medical Marijuan Patients have no laws against them smoking in public, as this is considered medicating , same as popping a asprin. As soon as 19 passes smoking in public whether you have a Medical card or not, WILL BE ILLEGAL! you dont consider that a nullification? Think sir before you open your mouth, just because you THINK you know the law I promise you I know it that much better. (not to be a dick)
This is just one example. They are sugar coating Laws that void Medical laws instantly and people like you don't see them and thats how the Government passes things right under your nose and you smile and agree...
Educate before you try bashing sir.
One Love
:rastasmoke:

we don't want folks smoking in public.nobody needs to medicate that bad.
look like the growers will have to pay taxes now

[ZeroWingX]

Sigh,that wasnt a shot at you or anything,just simply answering your question. Besides the only ones complaining about anything are those of you out there using growing and selling as your primary means of income.

Its not my Primary source of income Its not about income, I'm a college student and a Tattoo artist. I grow because I have a Panic disorder (father gave that 1 to me) and breed High CBD strains with lower THC for that. I then expanded with Painkilling strains, Anti Anxiety(social anxiety, paranoia, ect), PMS symptoms, stomach aches or Nausea, Stress, and im still finding more medical strains and uses for Marijuana. This isn't about money for me its about helping people. Dude I charge 40-50 1/8th and like 140-180 Ounce, And I deliver... I really only Charge for The lights and nutrients lol... The extra money yes Helps put me through school, but hey sorry I have to live man... Its never about money anyone who knows me will tell you that.
you ever wonder or care why I put "One Love" after most all my posts? Its because I believe it, Marijuana is a very unique Resource. It heals people Hemp is extremely useful in clothing, industrial grade ropes, Bio Fuel, hell even cooking... One love signifies the People should regulate it, One Love for a common goal, and a common thing. It unites people. This Prop is not going to do that its going against everything I stand for, Freedom and love. Its Just going to be Industrialized and Meaningless.... Go buy ur MJ from a store and go about your day... where is the Love in that? I chat for Hours with people I supply now, ask em how their day is, whatâ??s been new. Sometimes sit n blaze with em... Thatâ??s the realization of the true dream... One Love...
:rastasmoke:

[eastbaygordo]

It might not pass, I hope to god it doesn't its not nearly as great as you think, go Read my Post Jack had Dream, it clearly underlines the truth about prop 19. Read that and if you still want yes, well I question if your a current Medical user, because 19 strips EVERY AND ALL MEDICAL BENEFITS that Jack and Denis faught to get for us. Thats like spitting on the Mans grave.
One Love...
:rastasmoke:

You're uninformed, 19 does not affect 215 in any way. All medical uses cannot be stripped or affected by 19, it says it in the text.

[eastbaygordo]

we don't want folks smoking in public.nobody needs to medicate that bad.
look like the growers will have to pay taxes now

I can legally medicate anywhere smoking is permitted. This will still be legal after 19 passes.

[ZeroWingX]

I can legally medicate anywhere smoking is permitted. This will still be legal after 19 passes.

And because your a Medical Patient you wont be confined to a 5X5 grow space either huh?...
hmmm...

[Ub3rB0ng]

And because your a Medical Patient you wont be confined to a 5X5 grow space either huh?...
hmmm...

Maybe,maybe not but I dont think so.

[ZeroWingX]

I'm pretty sure they will lol, but I'll figure it out...

[Ub3rB0ng]

Just gotta roll with the punches,whether it gets voted yes or no.

[mikeyman]

Just gotta roll with the punches,whether it gets voted yes or no.

well yea ...i'm sure there will be much debate about it.I didn't see any tax figures in the prop..The taxes will have to be practical and fair for growers and the buying public

[ZeroWingX]

well yea ...i'm sure there will be much debate about it.I didn't see any tax figures in the prop..The taxes will have to be practical and fair for growers and the buying public

Not really there are 3 seperate Taxes for the buyer, the 50 an ounce is just 1

[tweder8002]

It wasnt just the medical users that got prop 215 passed. Those of us who are perfectly healthy and just enjoy relaxing under the effects of MMJ helped get your prop passed. Stop being selfish and help those of us who cant get a script legally. Yes i could go get a script for insomnia blah blah blah. But seriously it wouldnt hold up in court. I dont have any documentaion of any illness that would grant me a script. So for you to sit there and say vote No because it will belittle my prop 215 rights is just selfish.

[khyberkitsune]

I have top to bottom, EVERY sentence... and yes about a good 95% of Medical laws are instantly stripped from patients.

No, it doesn't.

In fact, in Section 2, Article B Statement 12: "Make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial, and research purposes." is explicitly mentioned, and no other section makes mention of affecting Prop 215 or SB420, WHICH IT MUST DO IF A PROPOSED BILL OR PROPOSITION WERE TO AFFECT THOSE LAWS.

Go back to school and practice your basic reading comprehension, troll. Also, go acquire some basic legal knowledge while you're at it.

[hurleypotseed]

I am a 31 y.o. male who's been growing for 10 years I wanted to become a firefighter so I am now a medic but I developed a condition which ruined my hopes of firefighting. My next hope was to grow at a medical marijuana farm an anyone direct me to a place.

[mikeyman]

the last 4 posts were outstanding.Thanks guys.Like i said they will have to make it fair so the growers can still make money.But i think it is time for the growers to pay some taxes on their income like the rest of us.If they tax it to much for the buyer,the business will go underground and the don't want that.:pimp:

[boaz]

there really is no need for calling anyone a "troll" or any of that other stuff. ZeroWing is just stating what he believes. He pointed out something about Prop 19 that I had not noticed before. The summary section, which ZW is referencing, does not match the actual language in the text.

I could tell everyone what it is but thats no fun :rastasmoke:

Can anyone spot the difference??

One Love :rasta:

[boaz]

okay, times up. :jointsmile:

this is the summary:

"Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old."

this is the actual text:

Nothing in this article shall authorize a qualified patient or person with an identification card to engage in the smoking of medical marijuana under any of the following circumstances:
(a) In any place where smoking is prohibited by law.
(b) In or within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school, recreation center, or
youth center, unless the medical use occurs within a residence.
(c) On a school bus.
(d) While in a motor vehicle that is being operated.
(e) While operating a boat.

the summary "prohibits" while the text says "Nothing .. shall authorize".

which one counts? I honestly don't know. I don't recall seeing this discussed anywhere but I don't ever check out other herb forums or anything. I think its interesting. they say two entirely different things. My guess is the text counts not the summary but I'm no California Herb Attorney. :D ... yet.

[khyberkitsune]

okay, times up. :jointsmile:

this is the summary:

"Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old."

this is the actual text:

Nothing in this article shall authorize a qualified patient or person with an identification card to engage in the smoking of medical marijuana under any of the following circumstances:
(a) In any place where smoking is prohibited by law.
(b) In or within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school, recreation center, or
youth center, unless the medical use occurs within a residence.
(c) On a school bus.
(d) While in a motor vehicle that is being operated.
(e) While operating a boat.

the summary "prohibits" while the text says "Nothing .. shall authorize".

which one counts? I honestly don't know. I don't recall seeing this discussed anywhere but I don't ever check out other herb forums or anything. I think its interesting. they say two entirely different things. My guess is the text counts not the summary but I'm no California Herb Attorney. :D ... yet.

And all of those are actually referencing and reinforcing prior-stated regulations and H&S codes that were long-ago passed. There is NOTHING NEW in those words.

It's basically a reaffirmation of already-existing rules and regs on the books regarding the consumption of intoxicating substances, and stating that this law does NOT circumvent those pre-existing rules.

[boaz]

And all of those are actually referencing and reinforcing prior-stated regulations and H&S codes that were long-ago passed. There is NOTHING NEW in those words.

It's basically a reaffirmation of already-existing rules and regs on the books regarding the consumption of intoxicating substances, and stating that this law does NOT circumvent those pre-existing rules.

yes, don't get me wrong I support voting yes, even tho I don't live there :rastasmoke:, and I have been saying the exact same thing that you just said and it is true but the summary does seem different that the actual text. I think that is what is causing so much confusion.

Maybe its just standard legal double talk but the summary say this prop will prohibit this that an the other thing whereas the text just says it will not authorize them. to me that is different. like I said, the summary probably is not even used for the actual law but it seems like false advertising to me. :twocents:

its kinda like having a prop where the summary says everyone will get a tax increase if they vote yes, and then in the text saying that nothing in this prop will prevent anyone from getting a tax increase. subtle but I could see why its causing confusion out there.

but anyways, I would still vote Yes, the text most likely trumps the summary, but I just thought it was interesting and prolly is whats causing all the confusion over this prop.

oh yeah, more details :stoned: if you look at the current State laws I don't believe there are any currently in the books about smoking in front of a minor. So, the text version would amount to literally nothing, whereas the summary seems to imply something different. no big deal I'm sure just kinda interesting.

[greenghost]

im so glad arnold signed this bill into law, but prop 19 is whats really needed.



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[mikeyman]

yea every little bit helps.

[Theym420]

okay, times up. :jointsmile:

this is the summary:

"Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old."

this is the actual text:

Nothing in this article shall authorize a qualified patient or person with an identification card to engage in the smoking of medical marijuana under any of the following circumstances:
(a) In any place where smoking is prohibited by law.
(b) In or within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school, recreation center, or
youth center, unless the medical use occurs within a residence.
(c) On a school bus.
(d) While in a motor vehicle that is being operated.
(e) While operating a boat.

the summary "prohibits" while the text says "Nothing .. shall authorize".

which one counts? I honestly don't know. I don't recall seeing this discussed anywhere but I don't ever check out other herb forums or anything. I think its interesting. they say two entirely different things. My guess is the text counts not the summary but I'm no California Herb Attorney. :D ... yet.

And has no one noticed that the text does not say public, while the summary does, that's falsely misleading :jointsmile: it also says nothing of minors, in the text provided here at least :wtf:
Edit: just thought I'd add that I find the difference between autos and boats amazing, you can smoke in a boat while it's being operated, as long as your not the one operating it, but only in a car that's not being operated, why the difference? do the makers of said law smoke on a boat with friends and a designated driver? lol food for thought
MeDiCaTeD:jointsmile:

[mikeyman]

a car can be a closed enviorment ,the driver could get a contact high:rastasmoke:

[mikeyman]

check this out
Assembly member Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) has introduced legislation to implement Proposition 19 in the event that the initiative passes on November 2. Proposition 19 allows the legislature to amend it by a majority vote as long as it is in line with the goals of the initiative. The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act, ABX6-9, establishes a uniform statewide regulatory system while retaining a local option for sales. It also specifically excludes medical marijuana from fees and regulations in the act.

"Proposition 19 is an opportunity for Californians to finally change direction after years of our failed 'war on drugs,' said Ammiano. "But no initiative is perfect and the devil is in the details. My bill gives the legislature the ability to fine tune how California will regulate cannabis to ensure that it is done in an effective, systematic way." - Tom Ammiano

[mikeyman]

On September 19 of this year he wrote the following letter to the Editor of the San Francisco Chronicle.


Quote:
Legalize marijuana: Time to act is now

Your editorial against Proposition 19 ("No on Prop. 19," Sept. 16) once again shows that The Chronicle clearly hasn't done its homework with regard to marijuana policy.

Indeed, the devil is in the details, and with closer review, you would have understood that Prop. 19 is more than just a "slogan or concept." It is an opportunity to overturn the utter failure of years of marijuana prohibition.

I introduced AB390 nearly two years ago not only to address California's economic crisis but more importantly to begin a rational discussion about how best to regulate the state's largest cash crop, estimated to be worth roughly $14 billion a year.

The reality is clear: Marijuana is a huge part of our state's economy, and we can no longer afford to keep our heads in the sand. The time to act is now. No bill or proposition is perfect, and certainly Prop. 19 has some flaws, but to agree that the "war on drugs" has been an abject failure yet refuse to take action to change it simply defies all logic and common sense.

At what point do we say enough is enough? In 2008 alone, more than 61,000 Californians were arrested for misdemeanor marijuana possession. That same year, about 60,000 violent crimes went unsolved statewide. Resources tied up fighting marijuana would be better spent solving and preventing violent felonies and other major crimes. In its report on Prop. 19, the state Legislative Analyst's Office wrote that "jail beds needed for marijuana offenders could be used for other criminals who are now being released early because of a lack of jail space."

Regulating and controlling marijuana would make it less available to our youth, protect our public lands from illicit crops, generate new revenue and improve public safety by allowing our law enforcement agencies to re-prioritize their efforts towards more serious crimes.

As a member of the state Assembly, I believe we must bring innovation and problem solving toward creating a sane public policy for marijuana, not just stand idly by and wait for the federal government to act. Fighting for same-sex marriage and creating Healthy San Francisco are clear examples of how change happens. Prop. 19 is our opportunity to reform a policy that has been a catastrophe for our state.

This spirit is what makes California great: We lead, not follow, and I urge people to help move California forward with its policy on marijuana before it goes up in smoke.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco

The San Francisco

[boaz]

And has no one noticed that the text does not say public, while the summary does, that's falsely misleading :jointsmile: it also says nothing of minors, in the text provided here at least :wtf:
Edit: just thought I'd add that I find the difference between autos and boats amazing, you can smoke in a boat while it's being operated, as long as your not the one operating it, but only in a car that's not being operated, why the difference? do the makers of said law smoke on a boat with friends and a designated driver? lol food for thought
MeDiCaTeD:jointsmile:

no, I didn't notice that. good catch. yeah, that boat/car difference is interesting. here in the State of Cannabisland :jointsmile: we have similar laws for drinking beer. you can chug a lug if your a boat passenger but the driver can not.

[Theym420]

"Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds"

this is the actual text:

Nothing in this article shall authorize a qualified patient or person with an identification card to engage in the smoking of medical marijuana under any of the following circumstances:
(a) In any place where smoking is prohibited by law.
(b) In or within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school, recreation center, or
youth center, unless the medical use occurs within a residence.
(c) On a school bus.
(d) While in a motor vehicle that is being operated.
(e) While operating a boat.



also this, It says you cant smoke on school grounds, not you cant possess it on school grounds :jointsmile:

[boaz]

a car can be a closed enviorment ,the driver could get a contact high:rastasmoke:

:D true. good point.

[boaz]

check this out
Assembly member Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) has introduced legislation to implement Proposition 19 in the event that the initiative passes on November 2. Proposition 19 allows the legislature to amend it by a majority vote as long as it is in line with the goals of the initiative. The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act, ABX6-9, establishes a uniform statewide regulatory system while retaining a local option for sales. It also specifically excludes medical marijuana from fees and regulations in the act.

"Proposition 19 is an opportunity for Californians to finally change direction after years of our failed 'war on drugs,' said Ammiano. "But no initiative is perfect and the devil is in the details. My bill gives the legislature the ability to fine tune how California will regulate cannabis to ensure that it is done in an effective, systematic way." - Tom Ammiano

I'd keep on eye on Sacremento doing any "fine tuning". Ammiano previous bill involved a State level tax. This is the "tax" that many are confusing now with Prop 19 which HAS NO TAXES in it. I would challange anyone to show me one single tax in Prop 19. I don't think a mandatory state tax mandated by Sac would be in any way in line with the goals of Prop 19. :twocents:

The true spirit of Prop 19 is to empower local communities to enact their own local laws regarding non med over the counter sales. The only state wide mandate of Prop 19 is that all adult Californians shall have the legal right to grow their own without getting permission from the state and being guilty until proven innocent in a court of law. The rest is optional at the local level. I would immagine Sac hates losing control but tuff sh*t. :jointsmile:

[boaz]

im so glad arnold signed this bill into law, but prop 19 is whats really needed.



Is Oakland Sprouting out? (http://infohemp.com/news/is-oakland-sprouting-out/)

yeah, I agree. (getting back on topic kind of :jointsmile:).

someone on another thread had a good summary of what this new law does but basically I believe its no longer a misdemeanor for an ounce or less. Its still a $100 ticket, as its been for years, but its less of an offense now.

thats all groovy and all but it does jack shit about the real problem facing cannabis consumers in California. That is the fact that currently, under current California statutes, growing even one plant in California without a written doctors recommendation is punishable by a felony jail term in state prison. even if you are a legit medical consumer, if you grow your own in California right now you are guilty until proven innocent. :wtf:

Prop 19 will drive a stake in the heart of those laws once and for all. Kill 'em all in one shot. Nothing else even comes close.

[mikeyman]

great point Boaz
well it just the idea that we know the prop 19 needs a little touch-up.
They want to build an industry out of cannabis so they will have to make it so everybody can make a living and still kick in some taxes.
I posted those letter so folks would know that others are working on a system that will work for all.What good would it do to put all the growers under.They don't want that.

[ZeroWingX]

great point Boaz
well it just the idea that we know the prop 19 needs a little touch-up.
They want to build an industry out of cannabis so they will have to make it so everybody can make a living and still kick in some taxes.
I posted those letter so folks would know that others are working on a system that will work for all.What good would it do to put all the growers under.They don't want that.

Hope your right...

[mikeyman]

heres a good article.... that Arnold is such an idiot he waits till the end of his time to pass the law..He wasted billions on canabis issues
How California is Leading the Legal-Marijuana Movement - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2023860,00.html)

[boaz]

great point Boaz
well it just the idea that we know the prop 19 needs a little touch-up.
They want to build an industry out of cannabis so they will have to make it so everybody can make a living and still kick in some taxes.
I posted those letter so folks would know that others are working on a system that will work for all.What good would it do to put all the growers under.They don't want that.

:) Yes, I knew thats why you posted that and I'm glad you did. The last few sentences of Prop 19 spell out exactly what the Cali Leg is allowed to change. :cool: This is in line with the Cali Constitution.

again, I am no Cali Herb Attorney, but the way I read it, basically, they can make the 25 sf garden space, mandated to the people by Prop 19, larger ... and thats about it. :smokin:

so, Cali Congress and Governator, you want to really impress us, up that 25 sf to about 250 sf or more the day after Prop 19 passes. Just do it, the voters will thank you. :jointsmile:

[ZeroWingX]

:) Yes, I knew thats why you posted that and I'm glad you did. The last few sentences of Prop 19 spell out exactly what the Cali Leg is allowed to change. :cool: This is in line with the Cali Constitution.

again, I am no Cali Herb Attorney, but the way I read it, basically, they can make the 25 sf garden space, mandated to the people by Prop 19, larger ... and thats about it. :smokin:

so, Cali Congress and Governator, you want to really impress us, up that 25 sf to about 250 sf or more the day after Prop 19 passes. Just do it, the voters will thank you. :jointsmile:

if it was 250sf I know I would lol

[mikeyman]

well it can't be to much mayde 20 plants per household you know we can't have a bunch of pot growing everywhere ..can we???:rasta:

[Comfortableenum]

Zerowing,

This my not belong on this thread but I would like to talk to you about those high CDB strains, I have Generalized Anxiety disorder, grass controls it most of the time but ocasionally it increases the anxiety 10 fold. I have been reading where in the quest for Hight THC yeild, breeding has lowered the CDB content of the buds and thus may be the reason for the anxiety and Paranoia people feel more frequently now. If you are growing strains high in CBD I would like to know where your delivery service is located.

Thanks

[shangeet]

According to the State of California's Legislative Analyst's Office, the law would have had the following effects.
persons age 21 and older may: Possess up to 28.5 grams of cannabis for personal consumption. :smokin:
Use cannabis in: a non-public place such as a residence, a public establishment licensed for onsite cannabis consumption, or grow cannabis at a private residence in a space of up to 25 square feet for personal use. :cool:


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