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DemingNonProfit
10-02-2010, 09:10 PM
Everyone, Lets get together a Petition demanding the producers lower their prices! and asking the DOH to make them lower their prices:thumbsup: Who is with me??:jointsmile:

alfonso2002
10-02-2010, 09:16 PM
Where do we sign?

DemingNonProfit
10-02-2010, 09:20 PM
Alfonso, I am going to See if Sunthenovice will help help me write it, or I may just rewrite his, and include some other points, I believe I have your email, lets get this rolling!

MimbresValley
10-02-2010, 09:29 PM
WOW!!!
I like the activism that is brewing here!!!
Yeah Guys Keep It Up!!:D

alfonso2002
10-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Alfonso, I am going to See if Sunthenovice will help help me write it, or I may just rewrite his, and include some other points, I believe I have your email, lets get this rolling!

Im with you bro:D

ZeroWingX
10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
I already do this for my products. I charge only what it cost to produce. Formula I use... [prices] Nutrients+lights+water (Total aka C1).
C1 Divided by plants= C2.
C2 X lb's = C3
C3X1.5(Personal Labor:Germination/Cutting+Cloning,watering by hand, sleepless nights tending, pruning, drying,ect) = C4 Cpo
C4 Cpo (Cost for Customer per Ounce)
EX: BLUE DREAM
Nutrients: 40+80+15+20=$155
Light bill 200/monthX4 months =$800
Water:$50/monthX4=$200
# of Plants:6
lbs: 1
Labor:X1.5
soooo thats 1155/6=$192.50X1=192.50X1.5=288.75
So my cost for the Customer is per Ounce of my Bluedream 100% Organic grown Indoors is 288.75 per ounce which is $4620 a P...
Now I could discount that -25% and its $216.60 Ounce just cuz There is no middle man and I grow and distribute my product myself.
Thats probably how a lot of growers get their prices, though.
Lets do a little bigger Outdoor of
SOUR DIESEL
Nutrients: 800 total
Light:X
Water:80/monthX6=$480
# Of plants: 21
lbs: 7
Labor: X1.5
Math:1280/21=$60.95(61)X7=426.66X1.5= 640 per Ounce, now thats $53,760
Per half a year so thats $107,520 Per year, thats a Nice salery for these Medium scale growers who have to deal with pests, DEA BS, weather, and of course The labor. Now @ $53,760 to Dispenseries they give a discount so lets say thats 10% for the Harvest, thats $48,384 for the dispenseries, they then take that /7= 6,912/ 12= 576- 25%= $394.50 per Ounce... thats how Prices are like 300-400 Ounce they already lower it even after they get it , just so it sells... How much lower do you want it? The Growers really only charge for the price it takes to produce, some of the plants take less or more and thats how you get price flux, also think about the "Fire" Factor.
If some Haze is selling for 175/ounce and Skywalker is 400/ounce its the Fire Factor and probably supply and demand. Skywalker is "fire" its a hot item, people found many Medical uses for it and thus its selling much more than Haze, this puts stress on the Growers to produce! So thats more water, more plants, more nutrients,thus driving prices higher. Trust me growing 3-5 plants and growing 20+ even indoors is a totaly different endevour. Its more energy, luck,skill,patience, and thats what you paying for if its a little extra....
One Love
:rastasmoke:

alfonso2002
10-03-2010, 12:05 AM
$107,520 Per year for only 42 plants a year Now if we double that say 95 Twice a year.WOW

alfonso2002
10-03-2010, 02:48 PM
If this Petition dose not get off the ground at least write an email to department and let them know how you feel we only have 10 days to submit them.This is the address that I have" [email protected] "

MimbresValley
10-03-2010, 03:14 PM
If this Petition dose not get off the ground at least write an email to department and let them know how you feel we only have 10 days to submit them.This is the address that I have" [email protected] "

I think everyone should sign the petition, AND mail their own individual letter.
:thumbsup:

sunthenovice
10-03-2010, 05:44 PM
To everyone. I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner but I am quite overwhelmed with various issues that are draining my time. This issue is very important to me and I'm doing everything I can. I'll do my best to contact several of you in the next 24-48 hours. In the meantime I have spoken to my brother who is director of a non-profit organization in New Mexico. His work has nothing to do with Medical Marijuana but he has been the director of his organization for over 20 years and has vast experience with non-profits and the State of New Mexico. He has suggested to me that we focus on asking the State: 1. What is the average financial surplus for the licensed providers. Because they are non-profit these financial records should be public. 2. We should contact the New Mexico Foundation for Open Government who my brother believes are a well funded group with attorneys who would help answer questions regarding what the State & providers can and can't do. Here is the link:Helping enforce government transparency in New Mexico (http://www.nmfog.org/content.asp?CustComKey=431009&CategoryKey=431010&pn=Page&DomName=nmfog.org) 3. Another website that could be helpful is GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers and businesses (http://www2.guidestar.org/) which is where all non-profits are required to disclose what is called a 990 Financial Disclosure Form.

Again, my knowledge of the laws are limited but I'm working at getting up to speed. I can't recall if the State has given the providers expemption from posting these financial records for privacy reasons but if they have then I think the aforementioned NM Foundation for Open Government could be vital. We are not asking for the providers names etc...but there is no reason they should have their financial records protected because they are still non-profit.

I have to run. I promise I am doing all I can to help but I am struggling with assorted issues that limit me.

I am going to post this in other appropriate threads so as many people as possible can read it. peace.