My blue widow flower log

[nuglover]

hi all I'm in day 3 of flower and i am going to post ever few days and give details of whats being done.

flower day: 3
ferts given: none since flush

here are the pics of the big one.

its height height (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5910-big-height.html)

Its width width (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5912-big-width.html)

Top view Top (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5911-big-top.html)

sorry only way it allows me to post pics is by creating an album and posting a link to the photo

[nuglover]

here are the pics of the little one it was put in soil 15 days after it broke off the top of the plant.

Its height Height (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5913-small-height.html)


Its side view Side (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5914-small-side.html)


Its Top view Top (http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-my-pics-picture5915-small-top.html)

[nuglover]

any comments or questions are welcome. also just figured out i started this grow 3 months ago wow.

[EvilCartman]

hi all I'm in day 3 of flower and i am going to post ever few days and give details of whats being done.

Sounds like a plan. Count me in. :)
Have you done any other training, other than the whole "top breaking off" thing? :eek:
They look good, nice lookin' canopy. How much light are they under?


sorry only way it allows me to post pics is by creating an album and posting a link to the photo

That's a shame,.. puny lil' pics in there. :(
Sites been pretty *wonky* lately. :wtf:


any comments or questions are welcome. also just figured out i started this grow 3 months ago wow.


Wow is right, that's a looong veg. Looking forward to the show. :thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

Wow is right, that's a looong veg. Looking forward to the show. :thumbsup:

+1! :eek: :cool: :rastasmoke:

I'll be watching for sure. As for the pics, you can use the "BB" code under the pic to cut and paste the image to the thread so they will be imbedded in the tread instead of links.;)

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/canniwhatsis-albums-random-pics-picture5805-trichomes.jpg

[nuglover]

today is day 4 of flower there in dark cycle right now.


yes on the big one when it was about 15 days old i bent and tied it compleatly over(thats when the to broke off) then as each branch grew up enough the were bent over and tied it. it looked like a circle then as the next round bent and tied them to create a kinda stacking efect dit that till it filled up so much i got worried about how full it got. the little one i just pulled down the branches a little just enough to get a little more light penatration then bent the top over a little to balance the canapya bit the day i put in flower. the light is a 400 watt hps(entire grow) i have a 4" vortec fan with a 12 x 4 carbon filter. i have a 4 inch inline booster fan pumping air into the tent. and a 12" osculating fan. oh ya i looked at a fan leaf under a microscope and they have started building tricombs already.

[nuglover]

i have a question before my next watering. its about molasses. i could not find blackstrap. but i did find brer rabbit all natural unsulphured full flavor molassess. is that ok in place of blackstrap. second do i add it to every watering or just when i add water or just when i add ferts. please help i am going to have to water soon. i intend to use molasses the entire flower.

[DOUGAL25]

but i did find brer rabbit all natural unsulphured full flavor molassess. is that ok in place of blackstrap.

This is what I use...worked/s fine for me!
:stoned:


second do i add it to every watering or just when i add water or just when i add ferts. please help i am going to have to water soon. i intend to use molasses the entire flower.

I would add it every fourth water. My watering sched. went as follows: ferts+water, plain+water, ferts+water, molass+water.....and then repeat!
:stoned:

[DOUGAL25]

double post (I'm medicated) :stoned:

[nuglover]

after dark cycle is over i will be checking to see if watering is needed and ill be adding pics. there has been some streaching.

[nuglover]

day 6 flower
nutes added: total 5 gal water. 50 ml micro, 50 ml camag, 50 ml grow, 50 ml bloom, 40 ml(4 tsp) molasses. watered till light drainage.

i rotate 1/4 turn twice a light cycle.


http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-day-6-flower-picture5985-big-height.jpg

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-day-6-flower-picture5986-big-side.jpg

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-day-6-flower-picture5987-big-top.jpg

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-day-6-flower-picture5988-little-height.jpg


http://boards.cannabis.com/members/nuglover-albums-day-6-flower-picture5989-little-top.jpg

any questions or comments are welcome

[nuglover]

day 10 of flower
1/2 turn

[attachment=o257368]This is the side view and height of the big one. lines are the top of canapy and top of ruler arrow points to ruler.

[attachment=o257367]this is the top view of the big one paper seperates it from little one

[attachment=o257369]Pic of a flower on the big one

[nuglover]

day 10 of flower
1/2 turn


pic of little one

[attachment=o257370]Side view and height of little one

[attachment=o257371]Top view of little one

[attachment=o257372]I pic of a flower on little one

[nuglover]

here is a pic of both together in the tent

[attachment=o257373]


so how am i doing and does anyone know how much longer on the streatch of a blue widiow.

[canniwhatsis]

:rastasmoke: :cool:

[EvilCartman]

so how am i doing and does anyone know how much longer on the streatch of a blue widiow.

Lookin' real nice. She's gonna be a beauty. :thumbsup:

Grew out a _Dinafem_ Blue Widow a while back. There's a log on here from the grow. She went from 20" to 33" over three weeks. It wasn't topped or trained at all, so I don't know how that relates to that BUSH ya got going there! :D She's gonna be like a hedge of buds. :cool:

[nuglover]

that was the idea. i also am going to harvest in stages and hopefully re-veg so i can get a few clones.

[nuglover]

oh thanks for all the love.

[nuglover]

day 15 flower.
ph'd water with 1 tsp/gal molasses
rotated daily.
well it looks like strech stopped not as much as hoped. i am going to have to remove some under groth to improve air flow in side.

here are the pics of the big one.


[attachment=o257612]its height

[attachment=o257614]its width

[attachment=o257613]top down shot

[attachment=o257611]flower in relation to my index finger

[nuglover]

day 15 flower.
ph'd water with 1 tsp/gal molasses
rotated daily.

here are the pictures of the little one.

[attachment=o257622]its height

[attachment=o257619]side shot

[attachment=o257620]top shot

[attachment=o257621]flower in relation to my pinky


oh i am getting many yellow and dried up leaves and even a few small branches on the inside of my big girl. is that something to worry
about

[headshake]

oh i am getting many yellow and dried up leaves and even a few small branches on the inside of my big girl. is that something to worry
about

probably just lack of light. what is your light source?

-shake

[nuglover]

400 watt hps. it is probably not penitrating the canapy.

[nuglover]

i just thinned it out and the light now penitrates all the way down and i have air flow.

[nuglover]

day 19 flower.
gave 10 ml per gal micro
gave 10 ml per gal camag
gave 1 tsp per gal molasses
gave 10 ml per gal grow
gave 15 ml per gal bloom
ph'd to 6.8.
rotated daily.
been thinned out once.

pics of big one

[attachment=o257799]side view

[attachment=o257797]top view

[attachment=o257798]flower shot

[nuglover]

day 19 flower.
gave 10 ml per gal micro
gave 10 ml per gal camag
gave 1 tsp per gal molasses
gave 10 ml per gal grow
gave 15 ml per gal bloom
ph'd to 6.8.
rotated daily.


pics of little one

[attachment=o257801]side shot

[attachment=o257802]top shot

[attachment=o257800]flower shot

[nuglover]

here is a shot of both together.

[attachment=o257803]

so how am i doing for day 19 flower? am i giving to much nutes, to little. im just so unsure with this strain. i thinned the big one out and im still getting the yellowing and drying of the inner growth. please help i have come to far to lose it now. if the yellowing and drying continues im might lose her.

[EvilCartman]

so how am i doing for day 19 flower? am i giving to much nutes, to little. im just so unsure with this strain.

BW was very tolerant of nutrients. I gave it the full Fox Farm regimen, at full strength for the whole grow, with no ill effects.

As to the "yellowing and drying of the inner growth", are you seeing this on both plants? Kind of hard to really see much detail with the little pics. :(
How long since a re-pot?
Closer pics of the problem area?

If you're really concerned, you should make a post to the plant problems section. There's a sticky with a troubleshooting form there.

[nuglover]

just the big one. it slowed down once i thinned it out. but it never stopped. the little one so far just a few of the small leaves have dried and fell.

[nuglover]

ill be putting pics up when the lights come back on. the buds are forming nice

[nuglover]

day 25 flower

i am pleased with its development.

[attachment=o258156]top view of big plant

[attachment=o258155]flower of big plant

[attachment=o258158]top view of big plant

[attachment=o258157]flower view of little plant

questions or comments?

[headshake]

the flowers should really start to take off now! looks good by the way.

-shake

[nuglover]

ya but i have a problem yesturday the manager told me an exterminater is going to be comming tomarrow for a mouse problem. well they have to give 48 hour notice before entering so i am going to refuse entry. that gives me 48 hours. now my question. i can get 2 large cardboard boxes for them but no way to add air flow. they will be here during the dark time. will it hurt them to be 12 hours in a taped cardboard box for 12+ hours. i intend to box them just before he gets here (30 min prior to lights off) then put them back in the tent after the lights on time. i know that this put them under stress. but am i going to be ok or will it cause them perminant damage.

[nuglover]

thank you shake for your comments

[nuglover]

oh another question. is an 1/8 off each top cola a reasonable estamate. if so with the number i have i am expecting a total of 6+ oz total off of both.

[canniwhatsis]

Exterminator, Yeah, your girls should be ok in the boxes as long as its during the dark cycle,.... what ya gonna do with the tent? throw a tomato in there? Unless you can hide all your gear he's gonna know. Good luck on that end. That's one reason I never grew while I was renting.

More like 2g dried and cured, of course depending on how well the colas fill in.... then again, 1/8th is only 3.5g os it's not impossible!

[nuglover]

hehe the tent comes down in 10 min.(back up another story) and all my gear and ferts fits in my chest of drawers, foot locker/coffee table and the tent fits in another box i have. which is easily concealed. im just worring about lack of air flow. i live in washington and it is very humid while it is raining which it is for the next few days. will the lack of fresh air and high humidity be a problem.

[EvilCartman]

will it hurt them to be 12 hours in a taped cardboard box for 12+ hours. i intend to box them just before he gets here (30 min prior to lights off) then put them back in the tent after the lights on time. i know that this put them under stress. but am i going to be ok or will it cause them perminant damage.

I don't see a problem with doing that, I had to power down and seal my tent for over 30 hours during my last run. The plants came out of the ordeal just fine. I was really worried about mold/mildew but ... no problem. The plants were dripping wet, though! Like they had been in a rainstorm. :rolleyes:

Your yield estimate is probably pretty close, iirc my BW gave up 3 Oz grown straight-up. I would expect your topped girls to do a little better. :thumbsup:

[nuglover]

thanks i feel better now. i have always wondered why veg goes by so fast and flower seems forever. i just hope i can reveg and pull a few clones. i just cant believe how there starting to frost up. i cant wait till i get my camera back i hate having to use my cell phone camera. when i get it ill try and get some real good photos. but tonight is water night and ill be putting photos up.

[nuglover]

day 27 flower
water with 2 tsp molasses per gal. (accdently added 3 ml per gal grow just couldnt waste the nutes was stoned and thought it was ph up)
switched the plants around.

big ones photos

[attachment=o258298]side shot

[attachment=o258299]top shot

[attachment=o258296][attachment=o258297]flower shots with ruler same flower

[nuglover]

day 27 flower
water with 2 tsp molasses per gal. (accdently added 3 ml per gal grow just couldnt waste the nutes was stoned and thought it was ph up)
switched the plants around.

little ones pics

[attachment=o258302]side shot

[attachment=o258303]top shot

[attachment=o258300] [attachment=o258301]flower with ruler

questions/comments encouraged

[nuglover]

got my camera back ill see if i can get better pics. maybe even some of the developing trics. they blow up real nice.

[nuglover]

day 30 flower

here are the photos of the big plant. these are really big photos so expand them.

[attachment=o258547]side shot

[attachment=o258548]top shot

[attachment=o258549]flower shot

[nuglover]

day 30 flower

pic of little plant.

[attachment=o258552]side shot

[attachment=o258551]top shot

[attachment=o258550]flower shot


any coments please.

[camoxnhx]

Looking mighty dank my friend!! Those buds just keep swelling up! Can't wait to see your end results! Keep that thumb green and sticky!!

[nuglover]

thank you my friend. when i saw the flower full sized those trics were amazing. i love my camera im so glad to have it back. im looking for a good macro lens so i can even get closer.

[nuglover]

day 40 flower
rotated daily. will water monday or tuesday.

pics of big one

[attachment=o259091] [attachment=o259092] [attachment=o259093]

[nuglover]

day 40 flower
rotated daily. will water monday or tuesday.

pics of little one

[attachment=o259094] [attachment=o259095] [attachment=o259096]

[nuglover]

here are both together at day 40 of flower.



[attachment=o259097]

there just not bulking up like i wanted. i still have about 20- 25 days maybe a little more. would bringing the light closer help it is about 14" awat from top of canapy the temps at top is 80-85 degrees with light on. should i increase the bloom and/or the molasses? im getting very excited about the harvest comming soon. i want to reveg and take some clones and any advice about that would be greatly apreciated.

[EvilCartman]

there just not bulking up like i wanted. i still have about 20- 25 days maybe a little more. would bringing the light closer help it is about 14" awat from top of canapy the temps at top is 80-85 degrees with light on.

They look good. There's still plenty of time for them to plump-up. :thumbsup:

IMO, The light is pretty far away for a 400. BUT, I would NOT try to get it closer with those temperatures. Trying to get closer would most likely do more harm than good.

[canniwhatsis]

Those look fine for day 40! :thumbsup:

Most of the bulk happens in the last 1.5-2 weeks of flowering. Patience young grasshopper. :hippy:

[nuglover]

im used 2 autos forgot how long the photoperiod plants take. im tempted to do a hydro autoflower just for kicks.

[camoxnhx]

im used 2 autos forgot how long the photoperiod plants take. im tempted to do a hydro autoflower just for kicks.
DO IT UP!!!!!!! Imagine how dank and how bulky those autos would get in hydro!!! shit would be awesome!!!

Those bud shots of the BW are looking MIGHTY DANK!! hell of a job man! these ladies are gonna love you tenderly just hope its not by force!!! hahaha but then again id take on any bud! haha keep us posted!

oh yea hows that room smell?

[nuglover]

i cant tell i have become so used to it i dont even smell it anymore. but my bro says it has no smell then he opens the tent and swoons so evidently it is a strong smell. one time i forgot to shut all doors while watering and my brother came over 2 hours later and said he could smell it outside. so from that im guessing prety potent smell.

[nuglover]

day 44 flower
last feeding 2.5 ml grow, 10 ml micro, 10 ml camag, 7.5 ml molasses, 25 ml bloom, 2 ml gravity per gal water. ph'd to 6.8.

turned and untied all tied down branches.

temps are keeping between 78 and 83(lights on)the last 4 days.

temps lights off 59-67.

pics of the big one

[attachment=o259325] [attachment=o259326] [attachment=o259327]

[nuglover]

day 44 flower
last feeding 2.5 ml grow, 10 ml micro, 10 ml camag, 7.5 ml molasses, 25 ml bloom, 2 ml gravity per gal water. ph'd to 6.8.

turned and untied all tied down branches.

temps are keeping between 78 and 83(lights on)the last 4 days.

temps lights off 59-67.

pics of the little one


[attachment=o259329] [attachment=o259330] [attachment=o259328]

starting to fatten up

[weeddaddy50]

It's funny.....I use to look at all sort of pictures of everything....now my passion is looking at beautiful buds....2nd only to beautiful ladies:stoned:

[jebus89]

wow nice going, pulling up a chair for the final performance :)

[nuglover]

thanks for all the love. will be putting up more pics soon. just waiting for them to suck up i bit more water.

[nuglover]

day 49 flower
2.5 ml gravity and 5 ml molasses per gal water
rotated and turned.

here are the pics

big plant pics


[attachment=o259583] [attachment=o259584]


little plant pics

[attachment=o259585] [attachment=o259586]


how am i doing for day 49 flower been so long i have done other then autoflower.

oh ya only one more feeding with gravity. when should i flush. looks like harvest is going to be between the 1st or 2nd week of december.

[nuglover]

ill have new pics up tomarrow. also will be putting up a problem with the leaves.

[DogtowN]

how am i doing for day 49 flower been so long i have done other then autoflower.

oh ya only one more feeding with gravity. when should i flush. looks like harvest is going to be between the 1st or 2nd week of december.

Nice job on the plants, nuglover! That's a lot of pruning.
I say you're right on with the timing, I've grown blue-widow a few different times and it finishes for me in 10 weeks with 10 percent amber.

How often do they n eed water? I'm not familiar with the nutes you are using but the plants look pretty green. If they take water every few days then it might be wise to give them a good flush at the next watering following that last feeding.

[nuglover]

they need to be watered every 5 to 7 days. just gave them there last feeding. next watering is its flush. in soil thats 3 times the volume of the pot right?

[DogtowN]

they need to be watered every 5 to 7 days. just gave them there last feeding. next watering is its flush. in soil thats 3 times the volume of the pot right?

That is the general guideline.
I've found that with some brands of nutes it is overkill. I gauge mine with a tds meter and found very little change, if any, after the first 10 gallons when flushing a 5 gallon pot.
I let the water dwell in the pot for about 5 minutes before each gallon. It takes longer but I've found it works better than a constant flow, which is what I used to do.

Let me rephrase that. :)
It doesn't work _better_ it just gives the same results using less water. I think that's a more accurate statement. :jointsmile:

[nuglover]

ok sorry for not posting pics but they were looking scragly with all the top fan leaves so burnt and ugly. but i flushed dec 1st and have cut back light to 6 hours to increase the tric production. looks like finale harvest prep(lights compleatly off) is in about 3 to 5 days away. checked with a 60 x scope and there are only a scattering of clear huge amounts of cloudy and a scattering of amber. and im going to cut the light 2 days(or as long as i am able withstand the temptation which ever is longer) before harvest all together. ill put picks of them hanging.

[nuglover]

had to cut the big one down. a fan fell on it and split the stock in half. had to put it in my dryer(home made dry box) the little one is ok and all alone under that big light. looks like im harvesting it next week or so. im going compleatly dark in there after the next lights on.

[EvilCartman]

ok sorry for not posting pics but they were looking scragly with all the top fan leaves so burnt and ugly.

Heh. C'mon, don't be all prissy about the photos. :D
The last few weeks are seldom pretty, the scraggy stuff makes the buds look better! ;) This ain't no beauty contest, it's a grow-log. :D
:rolleyes:



had to cut the big one down. a fan fell on it and split the stock in half.

Bummer, figures it would be the big 'un. :(


im going compleatly dark in there after the next lights on.

Look forward to your results. Never played around much like that, myself. Curious to see what comes of it. :thumbsup:

[dumdum88]

wat soil did you use how long did you veg 4 and what was the brand of nutes you used but overall well done sucks that a fan fell on your big plant

[nuglover]

soil black gold with perlite mixed 50/50
ferts gh 3 part gravaty and molasses.
total from seed to flower 4 months.

[nuglover]

oh ya tomarrow i will pull from the dry box and photo ghraph.