Just Another Crappy Day in Paradise Grow Log....Part Two.

[oldhaole]

As a sucessful long season winds down, I notice a problem. I have 28 legal holes and there almost EMPTY! Shit. Well not for long. :D

We can fix this....but I need a goal. Long season was good to me, but I can do better. I could slam a bunch of seeds in the dirt and choke myself out on 90 day wonders. It would be easy to do, but yield would be...minor. :(

I have a light room. It is seldom used. Here's the plan. This grow will start hybred, 12 hours sunlight, 12 hrs CFL's. That way I can get my starts a bit of size, 3 ft or more, before dumping them into their holes. Once in dirt they will jump and bud. Maybe get some 5 footers.

In theory this will work. The whammy will be the weather. La Nina dominates the Central Pacific this year. That means we will be wetter than normal. The land needs rain, as we are still in a 2 year drought now. But the girls don't.

Today I am busting my seeds I crossed from last long season. My goal is to cross the Cali girls with my big yield Sativas. Also those first generation Cali seeds need to adjust to our climate and photo-period. I will also cross the Cali girls with themselves, Then back cross them over Jan - April short season. Maybe I can get them all over 8 ft on long season next year. Also I have new blood comming from the mainland too.

OK. Here's the rules. Questions, comments are always welcome. If you want to call me a pompus asshole thats ok (wife does daily). I would like to stick to this grow. If you have questions or comments about part one, put them there. I'm not done part one yet, and will jump back and forth until long season is done and gone.

Short Season in Hawaii is a quick trip. Three months. It is a time to mess around with the herb and not do any long term damage. Screw ups can be forgotten and if I cross a winner it can easily be put into long season's line up. Blink and you may miss it. And of course you poor bastards on the mainland will soon be freezing, so I will put some fluff shots so you can see what you are missing.

Aloha OH

[canniwhatsis]

And of course you poor bastards on the mainland will soon be freezing, so I will put some fluff shots so you can see what you are missing.

Aloha OH

LOL Too true!!!!! Subscribed!

[truepunk87]

Yep.....ill be following this one.

[Weezard]

Already been a stellar day.
Jus' got mo' betta, I mus' say.:cool:

An' so, I did.

Pullin' up a pua.
Aloha,
Wee 'zard

[FlyinPolynesian]

Hooooo Brah!!! Ovah dis side Colorado I get dat hau kea, Luana ke La a me mana Lomo, Shootz!!

Luana Kaʻlumanu ke La a me mana Lomo~ Enjoy basking in the sun and power of Lomo

[oldhaole]

Boys and girls, I just hit the genitic Jackpot.

So far the Cali girls have been popular. The market is flooded, but the demand for the Cali girls have been steady. Next year I want to get them big. This year the largest one yielded 22 ozs. Next year I want 44.

I planted all my seeds from this cross and today I put them in dirt.

I'm trying to isolate the strain that has some size. I thought it would take a full three months to find the strain I want.

Today I go over to my partners house. He just had a stress fag go off in the middle of his garden. The stress fag was clone of the my big one. I gave it to him. Its my Thai/Bloodweed cross.

Then I see a bunch of clones I gave him months ago. He never took them out of the small pots and each plant was a 6 inch bud. All are from the Cali girls I made months ago. Some of each plant. I look at them closely and sure enough... seeds. Female seeds.

Bingo. Mother nature just gave me my first generation, Partner on the other hand is bummed. His entire crop is seeded. He is too proud to ask, but I will happily carry him this year. He would do, and has done, the same for me. It is better to stash genetics in two places anyway.

Now I have a bunch of 90 day wonders I don't need. They are easy to hide, guess I'm stuck with them. I will also need the males so I shouldn' grumble.
You all know what they say about blind hogs and acorns. Oink Oink.

OH

[honeygurl]

Curious to see how that strain/seeds do here on pig island, west side. Not as much rain, but still pretty humid, I'm guessin'.

[ForgetClassC]

*sit*

I'll be here.

-C

[oldhaole]

Well, that was special. My test cross of the big one and the cali girls failed spectacularly. The cross will look great on the outside, but inside mold is ripping thru the top. In six days it is shot. Pulled them all.

The other cross is showing promise. I haven't cut them and they came thru the rain just great. So far no mold, but I have no pollen from that particular plant. If I try to stress fag her I will blow up about 3 lbs of damn good smoke.

The clones at my partners house were crossed with the wrong male...I doubt they will be any more resistant to mold than their father.

So the genetic jackpot can still be used, I just have to abort the existing young seeds (there are not many) and re pollenate them. I have seeds comming up, from the wide one strain, I just need some time. And a good male.

And for the cherry on top... Weather service says we will have a very wet year. And they are usually right. Last time they made that prediction, a cut off low sat on us for fourty days. Sure made everything green, but it didn't help any plant in bud though.

So short season will be...chalanging...it seems.

No rest for the wicked.....Shit!

[oldhaole]

Long season 2010 is dead. It was fun while it lasted, but I gots to move on.

Wana know what happened?

Go read part 1. :D

Short season begins. You know you are a grower when before you trim the last bud of the year, you start to work toward next season.

Sparkly little morsels.

I loooove short season plants. You don't get much, but what you get is oh so tasty.

If I had my way I'd plant 500. And keep 'em all. Greedy bastard. Smoke them one after another. All year long. :hippy:

My partner knows this, and he has all the seeds. I have like ten plants from my first crack. BFD. How weak. He is messing with me. I gotta stop needling him about his seed crop :(

Eventualy I will chissel some out of him.

It's only fair to warn you this should be boring. No giants. No pounds...we are playing for pennies.... tasty pennies, but pennies.

And if I don't make a total hash of it, tons of seeds.

There's an offer floating on the bottom of page 11. Some of you know about it. Some don't. Still wide open.

[ForgetClassC]

I would love to do that, but I see some legal matters restricting me, lol.

-C

[truepunk87]

Same here. I would do it just to see your island. :) no money needed,just a tour:thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

I'd love to help! :D Could only hang for the next week tho, gotta be back at work at 8am on the 25th :(


Wife won't let me go by myself tho. :mad: If there was a way to drag her and the kidlings along I'd be at the airport last night!

[oldhaole]

True....make it here... I'll happily give you the tour. :D

Canni....Trimmer job should be done today. By Monday, It will be like 2010 never happened. Back to compliance. ;)

Class C....You are right. Hawaii card, state ID, and it helps if you need it = free. Gotta come get it, too. Them be the rules. Got all three? PM me. :thumbsup:

Hawaii law says legal to buy. Illegal to sell. Legal to gift. Lord only knows that I would never sel...cough cough weezzzz... oh shit look at my nose grow.

Now let's drop it. I have plants to grow and heads to feed. And many miles to go before I sleep.

Later.

[canniwhatsis]

Quick Q about re-veging. I'm going to run an all organic outdoor girl next summer, the outdoor season here in Colorful Colorado is over for this year.

I"m thinking of taking one of my indoor girls out of the flowering room and moving her outside after the last freeze, say mid april?

Should I use a full run flowering plant, harvest all the buds and just leave little ones and some foliage? or should I put a plant out that's only half done and just let it re-grow? or just say fuck it and start with a fresh clone?

[oldhaole]

With your photoperiod, I think the days get longer too fast, so you won't get that first little harvest in April-May. It's important. It gets rid of all the males, and it gives you an idea if the smoke is worthy. Also gives you an excuse to knock the top off, leaving the bottom behind.

If you wanted to duplicate my exact sunset/sunrise I can easily get them....but that would be a royal pain in the ass. But it could be done. LSY did regrows too this year too. I think he started them inside.

I would find your favorite sativa dom, plant her early, maybe nip the tip when you bring her out in and in ground after the last....what do you call that now??? Oh...frost. Put her in a good deep hole full of goodies, and let her rip.

The white shit that falls from the sky....snow? Got it.

Regrows in pots, don't work real well, If you try to move them, they break easily. Waste time, lose money.

If they let you grow 7, get them huge. Do it for the kids. :D

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY did regrows too this year too. I think he started them inside.



The way i did my re veg's were to just grow your crop inside so it will finish close to a month before you would begin outside growing. You should harvest most all buds, but keep as many leaves on the plant and a few small buds on the outer part of the plant. Flip your lights back to 18/6 and in a week you will see new growth, at least i did. But after the last indoor harvest your going to want to cut the plant back, if you look at Rusty's thread, i did pretty much what he does to veg indoors. You really only need to take the plant out of its pot and cut the roots back on all four sides and the bottom, then put it back in the same pot with fresh soil. Then after it gets into full veg, i re potted to a bigger pot. After about a month i got them back to veg, then put them in the shade for about 10 days, then straight in the ground. Its easy i thought and will always do a outdoor re veg each year. Its a waste not to, because your yield will be more then doubled after its all said and done. The grow is in my Sig if i missed anything. Or if ya have questions just hit me in my thread in the outdoor growing section.:thumbsup:


Man guy im pumped you have a new thread and new goals:thumbsup:it helps me to improve the rev skills. I know this grow would be done to get a good stable seed for your environment, but iv been working on breeding myself. So im sure il pick up some of your knowledge here too even tho we are breeding for different reasons. Thanks man.


Sorry man, not trying to jack ya bro, just pointing out where to find the from indoors to the great outdoors with the giant re veg machine:jointsmile:

Peace bro:rasta:

[canniwhatsis]

Thanks fellas! On with the show! :thumbsup:

[oldhaole]

The way i did my re veg's were to just grow your crop inside so it will finish close to a month before you would begin outside growing. You should harvest most all buds, but keep as many leaves on the plant and a few small buds on the outer part of the plant. Flip your lights back to 18/6 and in a week you will see new growth, at least i did. But after the last indoor harvest your going to want to cut the plant back, if you look at Rusty's thread, i did pretty much what he does to veg indoors. You really only need to take the plant out of its pot and cut the roots back on all four sides and the bottom, then put it back in the same pot with fresh soil. Then after it gets into full veg, i re potted to a bigger pot. After about a month i got them back to veg, then put them in the shade for about 10 days, then straight in the ground. Its easy i thought and will always do a outdoor re veg each year. Its a waste not to, because your yield will be more then doubled after its all said and done. The grow is in my Sig if i missed anything. Or if ya have questions just hit me in my thread in the outdoor growing section.:thumbsup:


Man guy im pumped you have a new thread and new goals:thumbsup:it helps me to improve the rev skills. I know this grow would be done to get a good stable seed for your environment, but iv been working on breeding myself. So im sure il pick up some of your knowledge here too even tho we are breeding for different reasons. Thanks man.


Sorry man, not trying to jack ya bro, just pointing out where to find the from indoors to the great outdoors with the giant re veg machine:jointsmile:

Peace bro:rasta:

There you go Cani....LSY answered your question far better than I could. I total forgot that Rusty has a great re grow tutorial too.

Boy...my memory is shot....wonder why?

[oldhaole]

Seasons change here, just like the mainland. Unlike the mainland, they change subtly, you have to know what to look for.

Saw my first plover today. They fly in from the Artic, and winter here. The plum trees are starting to change color, we have a big north shore swell, the first humpback whale has been spotted, and we had two inches of rain yesterday. All are signs of winter comming on.

Partner came thru with the first of the seeded clones. Slammed them in the cracking bowl. Another friend sent me a couple of Jack seeds. They have cracked and are in the dirt.

They flew Green Harvet today. Two choppers. They checked me out, but there is nothing to see. There was, but it is gone.

Too bad, so sad. :D

The kekei are doing well. Pics below. They like 24 hour hybred light. I just left them out in the yesterdays rain. They came thru fine. Took a lickin' and kept on tickin'. The nine shown are all the skunk/thai cross.

[honeygurl]

Yup, getting a downpour as I type this now.

What are you using for starter soil?

[oldhaole]

I'm using half garbage soil from last years grow, half home made compost. If I have a pile I need to start fast, I use smaller pots and straight Sunshine mix #3. Throw some 14-14-14 time release on 'em and let 'em rip.

[LetsSeeYa]

I'm using half garbage soil from last years grow, half home made compost. If I have a pile I need to start fast, I use smaller pots and straight Sunshine mix #3. Throw some 14-14-14 time release on 'em and let 'em rip.

Well they seem mighty healthy as of now, but i cant wait to see what that nice sunshine will do for them. BTW i meant to ask how you are going to keep the rats away from your seeds? You had said they go after the seeded plants so breeding must be a pain in the butt. I would try the steel wool, but im sure you have this figured out by now.

Good luck bro, il be watching for sure:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[oldhaole]

Starts see the sun every day. I move them to the CFL's at night. A couple of months back a stray cat adopted us, and he has been keeping the rats off the deck. Cat also knows where the dogs can get to and stays out of range.

Any rat on the ground in the yard is toast. Dogs will find them, turn them inside out, and bring them to me for a reward.

I also keep the starts under a wire mesh when they are small, because the cardinals like to eat them. You can also put your trays on buckets, rats can't climb them.

Anyway, these starts go inside every night, so the rats don't even get to see them. At this size, the rats will only attack them if there is no water. We had rain, so this size is immune...for now.

[Dutch Pimp]

I thought you said it was easy growing, there?....:D

I should talk?...house mice ate 4 out of 5 of my papaya seeds, on a table, out of the soil cups...:wtf:

[Weezard]

I thought you said it was easy growing, there?....:D

I should talk?...house mice ate 4 out of 5 of my papaya seeds, on a table, out of the soil cups...:wtf:

Easy?
Hah!
He only makes it look easy.

I managed to screw it up royally!:o
I'm down to 1 strain in DWC.

Yesterday, I check da bucket and there's foam!
Root ball turned brown overnight in a fresh, (5days), fill.
Hit it with Peroxide, a mild fungicide, and a spritz of Serenade.
Yellowing seems to have stopped on da new growth within hours.
She ain't "singing" yet, but at least she stopped slumping.

Aloha,
Wee black-thumbed 'zard

[oldhaole]

'Morning Earthlings,

Another shitty day in paradise.

The market is flooded, everybody and their own mother has a crop in the bag. Fat times are here. A time to see and smoke (I call it "market research", wife of my youth calls it the two month stone out) all varieties of what the competition has to offer.

Now that the gulch is empty, it has been calling me. I hate empty holes. The starts below are now happily growing in the gulch. Planted them yesterday. Also took the opportunity to enlarge the gulch. Sprayed the whole thing with Round Up.

There was one 90 day wonder clone there, now gone. Pic below.

New strains gathered include some Jack, a refugee from #10, and a fruty sativa that a friend is growing, and he gave me some seeds. We will see where that goes.

So where do we stand? The gulch is planted with the pure cali strain, skunk/thai. Next wave is skunk/thai x ww/blood. These should be all girls. Next wave is unknown. From B.

This log is like watching paint dry.

Bummer,

[LetsSeeYa]

''This log is like watching paint dry.''


No way this is true. Sorry but your threads are always interesting. And all the pic's are awesome, weed related or not. I check this thread daily for anything posted and i know there are others too. So do your thing bro and we will enjoy reading what ever ya got going on :thumbsup:. Its only that you dont have those monsters to tend to that makes it seem boring to you, but we are tuned in and curious about your next post for sure.

So keep it up bro, we are reading :thumbsup:



:rasta:

[canniwhatsis]

''This log is like watching paint dry.''


No way this is true. Sorry but your threads are always interesting. And all the pic's are awesome, weed related or not. I check this thread daily for anything posted and i know there are others too. So do your thing bro and we will enjoy reading what ever ya got going on :thumbsup:. Its only that you dont have those monsters to tend to that makes it seem boring to you, but we are tuned in and curious about your next post for sure.

So keep it up bro, we are reading :thumbsup:



:rasta:

+1!! :pimp:

[Weezard]

+1!! :pimp:

Oh yeah!
It's actually a li'l crowded here.
We're jus' tryin' not to crumb up yer thread with idle chatter.

An' sittin' quietly is not my M.O., so 'preciate da restraint, yah?:D

Aloha,
Da well behaved 'zard.:)

[canniwhatsis]

Oh yeah!
It's actually a li'l crowded here.
We're jus' tryin' not to crumb up yer thread with idle chatter.

An' sittin' quietly is not my M.O., so 'preciate da restraint, yah?:D

Aloha,
Da well behaved 'zard.:)

Dis not my thread! :jointsmile:

ENJOY! :D

[oldhaole]

This log is like watching paint dry... I said it and it's true.

LSY, Weez, Cani... I thank you....That said, you guys need a life. :D Seriously feel free to put whatever, wherever. Without you this is boring and stale. And as all of you know, my ego needs constant feeding.

How do I top last year?...I don't have a clue.

Like a fake fifty, the prodical patient returned to me...what a stupid fu...be nice...person. Typical, get weed, bail, sell weed, come back broke, sponge off me for the rest of the season. Where do I find these idiots???

Had a good rain this afternoon. Winter is here. I have one clone left on the bottom, and it rotted. This doesn't bode well for next year. Looks like a cane field year comming up. Last year the fields were dry and worthless. The big payoff was from the yard...Next year smells different. I may have to go in a different direction. Or maybe it was all bullshit...Who knows???

Anybody see anything about the Hawaii state judge on Hawaii island looking to dismiss charges against two people transporting MMJ intersland??? Ohh Baby...Another wall may just fall....If those dumb bastards get away with that without the feds frying them...a giant market opens. And I will have lots of frequent flier miles....Me and half the island. That would make my life a whole lot easier.

OK, Who the hell gave this a ranking? Five stars? PULLEEASE. Smells like charity to me. This ain't that log, This is the bullshit BEFORE that log...I hope. Anyway, I prefer to earn my stars...the old fashoned way...with a giant harvest.

OK, settle down... other than me giving you shit I got nothing. I will try to keep you entertained for a few, thats the least I can do...and I always do the least I can do on everything.

Later

[Gare0440]

OK, Who the hell gave this a ranking? Five stars? PULLEEASE. Smells like charity to me. This ain't that log, This is the bullshit BEFORE that log...I hope. Anyway, I prefer to earn my stars...the old fashoned way...with a giant harvest. your too funny man.
like the rest of them i need a life.. check this daily too haha
cant wait too see your crop this round and to here the stories:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[camoxnhx]

a part 2!!!! word up!!! shes looking sooo dank!

[oldhaole]

Whaaaaattt,

It's been a while since I updated this. Progress is begining to show. The biggest plant in the gulch is pushing two feet, and all of the first batch is planted and showing sex. No fags, five boys and four girls.

The seed search had hit paydirt. New additions include some Diesel, White Russian, and some old style HB. All are in he cracking dish and should be planted today. Add those to the Jack, the tasty strain from B. and my other strains and I have the makings of a decent long season.

I enlarged the gulch and slammed another seven holes in. Planted batch two (the femed cross from partner) right next to batch one. Had to break down and spend cash on soil. I am a cheap SOB and that goes against the grain.

Winter is here. Dropped below 50 for the first time a couple of nights ago. I'm sure you all feel real sorry for me, but try not to laugh.

My little freeawana program has caught the attention of the cultivating kings up here. And not in a good way. There is talk of some asshole upcountry giving it away. NOOOO. Apparently this asshole dropped a load on Kihei, and in the process pushed the price below what the boneheads want for their crop. Too fuckin bad. It's called competition....get used to it. Some people wish I would just sell out.

Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see what hand fills up faster.

I ain't stupid. Eventualy when I run out somebody will talk. But I ain't going to run out for a long damn time. And they will be pissed, because I said nothing, AND I have bummed their strains off them, and I will do it to them again next year. More better they just drop their price. :D

Later

[goliath808]

hey bro, thanks for the tips on the other thread post.. yea, i know i screwed myself by not putting it outside earlier, i was having trouble finding a bigger pot to transplant it in and i wanted to do that before putting it outside. i have 2 other seeds that ill be starting up after i harvest my first one, and this time imma put it directly into the bigger pot to start so i wont have to bug with the transplanting (like i said before, it was just a practice run). now i know what to expect and am/will be more prepaired for those new plants to come! as for it being hidden... its pretty well hidden, its along the edge of a cliff on a flat section, theres a little hunting path at the bottom of the cliff about 20 yards down from the spot, however i already did a walk around and its hidden from the path by a small guava tree, and i checked all different angles from the windows in my house and from my balcony, and from all outside angles, the only way its visible is to walk right on up to the edge of the cliff. the cliff is about 20 yards away from the back of my house but no one goes back there like ever so i have no worries on that issue.

the funny thing about it is when the plant was a baby my dad stumbled on it, my little brother was laughing so hard cause it was in direct view of him and he almost didnt see it. he walked past it like 3 times before spotting it. he got upset that i had it being that hes a babylon, haha.. he almost pulled it outta the soil then i snatched it before damage was done and hid it. i told him that im going to apply for my blue card so he wont get so upset and be able to do anything when he sees the new plants.

with that last statement.. i have a compound fracture in my lower spine and get a pinching sensation wen i lie on my stomoche. and it causes back pain, not a 24-7 back pain but it starts to hurt randomly throughout the year, and espacially starts to hurt when im excersizing (i am highly active nd feel the need to workout. pain wont stop me!) this should be a good enough reason to be a medical patient right? if so what would be the best means of getting the blue card? one of my friends said to go to the doctors first and get medicine for it, (vikoden, oxy, percs etc...) then go apply for the card saying that the medicine causes me to get nauseous that way they see that i really got back problems and am not just another person trynna BS my way into getting high. also i have sleeping insomnia and the only 2 things that help me sleep is weed and alcohol, only i dont drink, nor do i like to drink even if i have an opportunity, and i really dont like sleeping pills those arent even an option in my mind!
any information you could give me would be much appreciated!
Mahalo.

[oldhaole]

You still have two whole seeds??? What's up with that? You need a shitload of seeds. Plant the seeds you have and make more. I would put your three in the same place, pray for a male, and let them breed. Then you will have 200+
seeds and a decent chance to have what you need for the future.

As for getting your card, I have heard it is hard to get on Oahu. I would recomend a trip to Big Island. There is a doctor there that hands them out like candy. I will give you his name, in a rec, look on your profile page. This doc has a dislike for opiates, If you go to him with your meds, tell him you don't want to get hooked on them, and that you are in constant pain and you are in. Hello blue card!

Once you have your card, and pops can't say shit, scrap the big pots. All you need are small ones to get your starts growing in. When they get 5 sets of leaves, plant directly in ground. Your plants will get much bigger in the dirt vs in pots.

Remember you can grow 90 day wonders to bud all the way to the third week in January. Plant before Jan 21st and they will go off. After that some will go off and some will get huge. The huge ones you can regrow, but that is another bridge to cross when you get there.

To do short season right, the secret is in the vegetative growth. The bigger they get the more they yield. They will only be vegeing for a short time. In that short time you want to get them as big as they can before the plants figure out the days are short and it's time to bud. So they should be pushed as fast as they can, to whatever height you can get. That means lots of sun, the right fertilizer, you don't let them get rootbound, use good soil, and if they are in pots, transplanting to slightly bigger pots every month.

As for soil, you mentioned you have jungle behind you. That leads me to believe you live in one of the hieghts on Oahu. Nice area. But the leached soil up there is garbage. If you go inground dig your holes early, and put some lime in the holes and use store bought soil. I use an even mix of Sunshine #3 and FoxFarm Ocean Forest. For ferts get some Osmicote 14-14-14 Time release and drop a handfull around the plant. Good soil = bigger plants.

OK, I think I covered ninty day wonders 101. More questions? Fire away.

[honeygurl]

Oldhaole, are you using the 14-14-14 right from the beginning? I thought using ferts so early was not recommended, BWDIK?

[LetsSeeYa]

Oldhaole, are you using the 14-14-14 right from the beginning? I thought using ferts so early was not recommended, BWDIK?

He gets his plants up a bit before planting in his holes, plus he said time released on top of the soil. So im sure it takes some time to get into the ground real good.

I think i answered this correct Oldhaole, if not i did try:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[oldhaole]

I just love the stuff. On my starts, I put a couple of teaspoons on when I plant the cracked seed. I have yet to burn the babies. A also have run a couple of tests and the pots with the time release do grow a little taller and stronger.

It is near impossible to burn the plants with time release.... sure if you want to bury the plant in the stuff, and soak it, could be done...but why?

One of the reasons I like it so much is that its free. My partner gets it from one of his jobsites. I love free shit. Why pay more?

[honeygurl]

ok, time release :thumbsup:

[goliath808]

I'm using half garbage soil from last years grow, half home made compost. If I have a pile I need to start fast, I use smaller pots and straight Sunshine mix #3. Throw some 14-14-14 time release on 'em and let 'em rip.

i notice you say you use home made compost... what would you say are the best home made compost recipe? i know you told me to use the 14-14-14 fertelizer, which i will be doing on my other plants when i start growing them, but for the most part if i get more seeds to grow i would like atleast half of them to be organic. other then this imma ger a worm composting bin and use that for all my plants, weather or not im going to have ferts in the soil.

[oldhaole]

There ain't one....well kinda...

Put down a weed barrier of black plastic shade cloth. Take all the organic kitchen waste, dog shit, and all the weeds out of the garden, fallen leaves from the Avacado trees and dump them in a big pile, and cover it all with dirt. Cover that with breatheable black shade cloth. Forget about them for a year. Ta Da! Compost.

The only reason I was using compost for my starts is I didn't want to buy dirt. I'm lazy and cheap. I was using old rubbish soil from my long season holes, and I needed something with some fresh nutrients to add.

I usually save the compost for long season. I consider it very valuable and a bitch to make....so you don't want to waste it on short season.

Worm castings are great for plants. If it works...big if... you have no need for compost...but let's get real.

There's a logical progression here. No offense, but you have much to learn grasshopper.

You're just starting to play with the herb. Make a bunch of seeds. Focus on the plant. You have yet to see cutworms, snails, slugs, rats, and birds. Also lets not forget Bud rot, and White Powder mold. Add that to Females, Males and lets not forget the dreaded hermie. Top it off with all the Oahu Rip-offs, and you have a hard road ahead.

This year write off as a learning experience. Expect nothing. Get the basics down. Shit, for $30.00 you can buy just what your plant needs. And your plants will grow as well as mine...maybe better. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.

When pops says "Sure, you can tear up the lawn to put your plants in" THEN you want to look into composting and a worm bin. If your looking at a small scale grow, compost and a worm bin is redundant. You don't need them. And believe me, it isn't worth the effort. Not yet at least.

[bigsby]

I guess if you are throwing dog shit into the mix you probably want to leave it a year but otherwise, a properly constructed and tended compost pile should be complete in 6 - 8 weeks. Piss is also a great additive to any compost pile. The pile needs adequate drainage, periodic aeration, and nitrogen additives from time to time (hence the piss).

Careful with the seed that go in there. They are killed by the composting process so long as you achieve optimum thermophilic composting which generates significant heat. However, you need at least a cubic meter of material to achieve these results. Otherwise, the seeds and pathogens will live on.

[rudy2010]

I think I need to do something with my composter. I bought one cheap from the city. It has square layers and a loose fitting top. It seems to take forever to compost the stuff I put in it. What are key things that will speed up the composting process to 6-8 weeks.

[bigsby]

This is a bit off topic. Hope it's OK oldhaole.

Actually those composters are among the best. Three parts right? Keys to composting are as follows:

1. Get a good balance of green vs. dead matter - think dead leaves vs. fresh cut grass.

2. Make sure you have a nitrogen additive. Like I said, piss works great. I let my kids use is as an out door toilet which greatly pleases my mother in law... You can also buy a compost accelerant but the key ingredient is nitrogen so you may as well use your own.

3. Make sure you have decent drainage. Straw works very well as the first layer but really, so long as it is sitting on dirt and not concrete you will be fine.

4. Add water. You want the material to be the texture of a wet sponge. Not soaked but good and damp. I leave the top off mine when it rains and then flip it afterward.

5. Turn the pile every 10 - 14 days to add oxygen. Add more water and nitrogen accelerant at the same time if needed. Here is where your system is so useful. Take the top section off and place it next to the other two. Now just scope the material out with a fork and place it in the empty container. Repeat until you have removed all the material.

If you get the mix right you will see an explosion in the red worm population. This tells you that the microbial activity in the pile is high which is what you want. Also note that composting will greatly slow or stop during cold periods below 40 degrees F. unless you are dealing with quantity. Also note that if you continue adding new material you will end up with bits of uncomposted stuff in your finished pile. I also use my three tiered system to segment nearly finished compost. I use two sections for the nearly finished / larger pile and one section to collect new stuff.

You can find all kinds of info on line. Run a google search.

[bigsby]

Just one more note and then I promise not to hijack this thread further...

Compost anything organic. Do not compost anything that is cooked, as this attracts rodents. You can also throw in egg shells, and recycled cardboard. Egg cartons are a good example but also a lot of packaging these days. I also throw in paper towels, napkins, and kleenex. Now get composting!

BTW I don't recommend that you use compost on your MJ plants, especially if you have an indoor garden. Compost is full of bugs and pathogens that you will then introduce to your garden with the compost. Best to use it in the veggie garden. Outdoor gardens are a different animal. I do wish I could be an outdoor farmer again!

[goliath808]

k first off before i reply to that post of yours...
dont you just hate it when your thinking about something all day, and then right when the moment that thought matters you forget all about it?! i swear this whole day i thought of a ton of questions to ask and now that im on the threads i cant remember any of them!!!!!! :stoned:

any ways back to the information part. hahaha


no offence taken bro. i know im new to the game and need a lot to learn, and thats why im reading through threads and asking a lot of questions. im also reading some books on the topic. as for the composting, i understand the whole concept of composting, what i meant by the 'compost recipe' is that are there any certain organic materials to compost that these plants just love?!! dont different things decompose into different types of nutrients for plants? i heard that banana peels and corn husk being composted are good for bud plants? but then again i just heard this, and you know how deceiving word of mouth can be...

as for the rest of the tips you gave me so far, thanks. its helping a lot, and will continue to help me in my future career as a ganja farmer :rastasmoke: bwahahahaha! one of my friends actually around 8 plants too right now, im trying to talk him into teaming up with me. after i told him of a few tips you given me... it looks like this team up just might happen. after this happens, its time to start breeding :thumbsup:. hmm, a new question just popped into my head... since i mentioned breeding, i should ask for a few tips on that topic. well for now imma just ask, are there certain traits to look for in diff plants that could be a determining factor of some killa offspring, or is it just the luck of the draw? i just want a general yes or no answer, no need to get into details on this one. if so later on down the line when the breeding actually happens you could probably help walk me through them traits though.

[LetsSeeYa]

''since i mentioned breeding, i should ask for a few tips on that topic. well for now imma just ask, are there certain traits to look for in diff plants that could be a determining factor of some killa offspring''


If you go back to the 1st thread you will see that he has said that the seeds that are used to the environment gets the biggest bang. But with that season over, this thread is making seeds grown in the environment to grow in the long season, which is ''the'' time to grow/re veg=giant yield. So buy a bag of weed thats been grown on the rock your on and grow em all. Then the long season will give you a plenty when reading, practice and everything else you need to deal with there.

After all that and want to breed your own strain, you pick what you like from each of each male and female that you like and breed them together:thumbsup:and thats that:wtf:



:rasta:

[rudy2010]

Thanks for the kind words and sorry for jacking the thread. But great info on the compost. I have chickens and lots of straw. I just need more green leafy or grassy stuff. I think I will do the two tier one tier thing too.

I guess once the stuff composts it does not much matter what the recipe was. I believe my chicken poop will make a good addition.

[bigsby]

Oh yeah - throw that chicken stuff in the mix. But you will need to be careful with the resulting compost as it will be nitrogen rich. You won't need as much nutes using that. As well, it could easily burn your young plants so you probably don't want to use if for seedlings.

[goliath808]

''since i mentioned breeding, i should ask for a few tips on that topic. well for now imma just ask, are there certain traits to look for in diff plants that could be a determining factor of some killa offspring''


If you go back to the 1st thread you will see that he has said that the seeds that are used to the environment gets the biggest bang. But with that season over, this thread is making seeds grown in the environment to grow in the long season, which is ''the'' time to grow/re veg=giant yield. So buy a bag of weed thats been grown on the rock your on and grow em all. Then the long season will give you a plenty when reading, practice and everything else you need to deal with there.

After all that and want to breed your own strain, you pick what you like from each of each male and female that you like and breed them together:thumbsup:and thats that:wtf:



:rasta:



rajah..yea im pretty sure the plant i got know is a home grown plant from my island, so are the other 2 seeds.. as for it being what I like, my fren smoked it during the summer, i was in jail at the time, hes not too sure on the strain but he said its grade A stuff. i trust his insight on it. its has a rerally sweet smell, i think its because i keep throwing in guava to the soil since it was a sprout, still doing so, not the big yellow ones but the waiwi, thats the small red quava. and i can certainly smell the guava in the buds. and i cant wait to taste it... hopefully it taste as good as it smells.

but as for the offspring topic, i heard that just because the mother or father plant were good doesnt neccesarily mean that the new plants grown from it will be good, that it depends on the enviornment, soil, care/work put in to it, stress etc... so hopefully i did good for my first time :cool: i am certain that my plant has minimum stress and in a good enviornment cuz its a really peaceful neighborhood nd theres NOT a lot of disturbances like noises and what not. and the air is clean so im pretty sure that helps!

[LetsSeeYa]

rajah..yea im pretty sure the plant i got know is a home grown plant from my island, so are the other 2 seeds.. as for it being what I like, my fren smoked it during the summer, i was in jail at the time, hes not too sure on the strain but he said its grade A stuff. i trust his insight on it. its has a rerally sweet smell, i think its because i keep throwing in guava to the soil since it was a sprout, still doing so, not the big yellow ones but the waiwi, thats the small red quava. and i can certainly smell the guava in the buds. and i cant wait to taste it... hopefully it taste as good as it smells.

but as for the offspring topic, i heard that just because the mother or father plant were good doesnt neccesarily mean that the new plants grown from it will be good, that it depends on the enviornment, soil, care/work put in to it, stress etc... so hopefully i did good for my first time :cool: i am certain that my plant has minimum stress and in a good enviornment cuz its a really peaceful neighborhood nd theres NOT a lot of disturbances like noises and what not. and the air is clean so im pretty sure that helps!


Its good you have some seeds that were grown there. But you might ask around as most smokers have a few seeds laying around that they would give you.

As far as the ''offspring'' the male genetics and the female genetics are written in stone in the seed. ex. if you grow out a strain that tends to mold easy, this is not what you want in your breeding project. And of course it takes experience and thats where choosing the correct soil, knowing how to grow in your environment and many other knowledgeable task's it takes to grow. Plus you need to learn what to look for in a parent plant. But if i were you id grow out your first plant and watch it grow, you learn a lot just by watching the plant grow. And keep up on this thread. This is the thread that will get ya where ya wanna be, if you read the first thread. Man id be hanging on every post bro:thumbsup:




:rasta:

[rudy2010]

That is absoutly correct you need to compost poo longer or it can burn your plants. I knew an experienced grower that killed his field by having a truckload of cow or horse poo spread on it.:( The next year of course the field was perfect.

[goliath808]

I guess if you are throwing dog shit into the mix you probably want to leave it a year but otherwise, a properly constructed and tended compost pile should be complete in 6 - 8 weeks. Piss is also a great additive to any compost pile. The pile needs adequate drainage, periodic aeration, and nitrogen additives from time to time (hence the piss).

Careful with the seed that go in there. They are killed by the composting process so long as you achieve optimum thermophilic composting which generates significant heat. However, you need at least a cubic meter of material to achieve these results. Otherwise, the seeds and pathogens will live on.

you mentioned the piss for nitrogen... just a quick question, i dont know if youll be able to answer it or not but just in case you can... do the minerals and neutrients we take in also come out in the pee as neutritions for the soil? lets use calcium for example, if i take calcium pills on a normal basis and pee in the compost pile, would that raise the calcium levels in the compost?

[canniwhatsis]

LOL!

OH has got to be thrilled with this thread Jack! :D "How much Piss and Poop can you put into your compost pile? and how dose my diet effect it?" *gads this site needs to let me link the ROFL smiley I have!*


Good info none the less as I'm wondering kinda the same thing about my make shift compost pile I'm working for my pepper bed next year.

[oldhaole]

LOL!

OH has got to be thrilled with this thread Jack! :D "How much Piss and Poop can you put into your compost pile? and how dose my diet effect it?" *gads this site needs to let me link the ROFL smiley I have!*


Good info none the less as I'm wondering kinda the same thing about my make shift compost pile I'm working for my pepper bed next year.


I just about shit myself ROTFL when I read this. Sweet Jesus, This has certainly jumped the shark. Maybe some brave soul will start another thread somewhere.... anywhere.... but not here...

My Plants Look Like Shit....Must Be My Diet.

I gotta follow that? How?....I say this in the nicest possible way

Big, Thank you for the compost tutorial.

LSY, Thank You for answering the questions a lot kinder than I would.

and goliath,....AAAHHHHHHHHGHGHH.....your a newb. Learn to grow the plant before you figure out your dietary needs.

Back to Reality. Back to watching paint dry.

The first batch of plants have reached three feet. If my damaged brain recalls right These were planted Sept 29. So they have been growing for seven weeks. These are the first ones I want to get to five feet. They may just make it.

Batch two are the Femmed (I sure as hell hope so) seeds. I did not boost them with lights, On these I put them in small, the sooner they tell me if they are all girls, the sooner I see if this worked. Partner has alot of these seeds, and if they are girls, we can save a trip into the field. We would be able to dump them in and come back to harvest. No real need make an extra trip to male.

Three is a Sativa from B.
Four is Strawberry Kush (not White Russian) from M.
Five is Diesel from M.
Six is an old style HB from B.

All of these have been cracked and planted. Unless I find something real tasty the seed search is done. Next up is breeding.

[bigsby]

I love how you are disappointed with anything less than a 5' plant... I ScrOG mine so that they can achieve the equivalent of 4'. It puts that last grow into perspective! No more thread jacking. I promise...

[oldhaole]

When I wake up I'm looking at the blue sky. "Pretty white clouds, but why the hell am I in the mud? Shit! At least I am not in the hospital like last time. I think I broke my nose. Where the hell is all this blood comming from?? Oh shit it's mine! What the hell just happened?"

As I wobble up my phone chirps. Partner calling. "Where are you?" he asks.
"Hell if I know" I answer. "Why is my quad in the cane?" Follow the tracks, and it becomes obvious.

The day started off easy enough. Partner had a day off and I am doing my usual nothing, Both of us are cracking seeds and we plan a return to the cane fields. Both of us have blown up our legal numbers, and we are looking for places to grow our "overage".

Maui has 35,000 acres of sugar cane. We are the last Island that still grows sugar. When I moved here in the '60 we had 3 mills and more than 60,000 acres in sugar on Maui. Sugar was grown on Kauai, Oahu, Maui, and the Big Island. Now the only sugar plantation left standing is HC&S. That stands for Hawaii Commercial and Sugar, though to us it means Harvest Cannibis and Smoke.

Growing in the cane is real simple. Every eight feet there is a drip line. On either side of the drip they plant 2 ft lenghts of sugar stalks. These lenghts of seed cane root and grow into 25 ft stalks of cane. We were going into the young cane and removing one side of the seed cane to make a hole so we could plant there later.

There is security in the fields, in cute little Ford trucks, but both of us are on Suzuki 500 LT quads, so we can run if necessary. We also know places where we can cross the irrigation ditches and they can't, so escape is not hard. Except when you get hit in the face going 40 by a big old thick wet stalk of cane. Then you wind up on the dirt wondering what the hell happened. That 'll teach me not to wear a helmet.

By this time I hear my partner getting closer. He is following my trail. I also hear a truck motor and that means Security is out there too. Time to get out of Dodge. Start the quad and drive it thru the cane. Right down the row. Let's see them chase me in here. Get thru the field. I can go left or right, chose left. Oh shit! Security is comming down the road! He puts the truck sideways to block the road. I slide the quad behind his truck and I'm gone.
Hit the main road and find the ugliest side road I can find and head up the hill.
Throttle up the hill and wait.

Sure enough the security truck makes the turn and is flying up the hill. Persistant little bastard. They have radios and by this time they are setting up to block us off. Time to bail. Say bye bye. I'm gone. Head further up the hill and I find a field that they are watering. That's what I'm looking for. Little Ford trucks don't do well in mud. I find a giant puddle, fly thru it and find a dry spot. Wait. Call partner. Nothing.

Here he comes! Hits the mud and SPLAT. Watch the truck slow, then sink in. Come on buddy,... floor it!.... Nice try.... Bummer dude, your stuck! To bad so sad. Make my day! See ya!

By now I'm sure the have the top blocked off. Call partner again. he answers. "Where are you? OK I'll find you". Back down the hill. find his tracks and follow.

A few minutes later there he is. "What happened to you?" he says

"Don't ask" I reply. "I put one of those fuckers in the mud. Stuck to the axels"

"Bastard tried ram me" partner says. "I going fix him up".

Oh oh...I've seen this before. Partners quad is sitting on a concrete slab, in a nest of baseball sized stones. Rear wheels are facing down the road. I want to watch, but not so I'll get busted for what will happen next. I nestle in the cane and sure enough a little Ford truck is comming. Partner just sits. Truck pulls up behind partner. Partner put it in third gear, opens the throttle, holds the front brake, and dumps the clutch. The nest of rocks he was sitting on become projectiles. Poor bastard opens the door and there are 50 baseball sized stone comming at him.

After the dust clears, the windshield is busted, the drivers side window is gone, and the truck looks like somebody worked the front over with a sledge hammer. Quads rule....again. Now its time to go home. Fast. But instead of leaving from the top we head to where we stashed the gas, fuel up and go the long way home. Later after dark...like midnight, we go grab the truck and trailer. A fun day done.

My nose ain't broke , but I look like a racoon. We got what needed to be done,done. As soon as these starts are ready, they have homes to go to.

Why in the world are we messing with security? We will be in the cane this year. We need to train them not to chase us. After a trip or two like the last one, HC&S will put out a memo instructing security not to chase motorcycles. They will be instructed to call the cops. And the cops know better than to chase people in the fields. They have wrecked enough cars in there. They already have a policy of not going off road in their blue and whites.

I have not ridden my quad in a long damn time. We keep them stashed for special occasions. And I do have extra plastics so I can change the colors. When we plant we only take one. One of us works, the other cruses the fields, leaving trails, and making sure the other is alone.

In my younger years I planted exclusivly in the fields. In those days we worked on the Lahina side. It was heaven. We must have put 500 patches in and only got ripped off twice. The place was so forgiving I could take seeds, pots, and dirt up in the cane, enough rain fell that I could get my starts going there and just move them to their final homes. But alas, The mill closed down 20 years ago, and that came to a grinding halt.

So we moved to the central valley. Then the fields were not gated, so the batu heads would grid search the fields. That year I lost 90% to rips. Next year was the same. So I gave up.

Now the fields in the central valley are all gated. We have the keys, and the berms are easy to hop, and the rif raf is gone. Once we train security, we should have the place to ourselves. Thirty five thousand acres will be wide open. Prime lowland, dry, hot, and complete with water, is calling me.

This'll be fun.

[oldhaole]

Another trip into the fields. Holidays are best to do this trip. With the exception of a few hana wai men all the cane fields are deserted. Unlike last Friday, where everybody was working, and we attracted some attention, yesterday we had the place to ourselves. The four security guards on duty were all in their little shack watching football. So they left us alone, and we left them alone.

What we are doing, I call advance work. We stashed gas, opened up areas we will later plant in, and cut fence and built a hidden drop gate, in case an emergency escape is needed. We may never use it, but it gives us one more way out if all others are cut off. Now we are ready to drop starts, just as soon as they are big enough. After we were done we even had time to head down to the beach, and hop into the ocean and wash off the mud. All in all a real easy day.

At the house the starts are doing as well as can be expected. Partner harvested a 5 gallon bucket of time release fertilizer, from work, and I hit everything with it. Lost a corner of a tray of starts when one of the mutts pissed in it.

Of my two biggest plants in the gulch (the ones in the pictures above) one went male, and the other fagged. Needless to sat they are no longer with us.

There is one male left. I'll let it live for another week, The girls in the gulch are just starting to bud, so I will let nature take it's course. If you polinate your girls real young, all the seeds should be at the base of your buds, easy to dig out, but the tops will be unseeded and very smokable.

Before I take the male, I will gather as much pollen as I can in a paper envelope. That goes in the freezer. There it will last long enough to make seeds from the other strains I choose to cross it with. The first cross is with itself. Always. As long as I have the pollen in the freezer, I can pick and choose my crosses. All I need is the male from each strain with the best traits I am looking for. Some of the traits I look for in a male is size, branch development, compound flowers, and overall health. I am working with 6 different strains, so in the end, I should have 36 different crosses. When the buds mature we will taste test all of them....that should be fun.

Then I pick the best of the best. Those will be my long season crop. In theory this should be easy. But it isn't. I simply do not have the room to keep everything from itself. That's one reason I am heading to the cane. I can grow my males there. Then I can bring pollen back and hit the females here.
That way I choose what gets crossed, not the wind.

Last year I did not have enough seeds. I planted what I had, and I lost a lot of potential yield. This year I can start hundreds of seeds, and only put the best in my legal holes. The rest go to the cane. They will be my gravy.

Now some pics....

1) First batch. This is the perfect age to breed. Crack it now, and the seeds will all be mature, easy to get, and it will not screw up the rest of the plant.

2) First batch. This male is the one I let grow. It has a week or less to live.

3) Second batch. These are suppose to be femed. So I put them in real small. I wish they would hurry up and show me if it worked. If it did work we have thousands of these seeds. So it probably didn't :(

4) Third batch. These go under lights every night. Another two weeks and I will put them in my bottom holes.

5) Batches 4,5,and 6. Look at all the time release I dumped on them! In a month or so... out to the fields they go.

[goliath808]

ok, first off that was quite an interesting story you posted about the cane fields. A lot of action! haha. any ways, what i would like to know how old are you batches 4, 5, and 6? im kinda guessing about a week or 2? not really too much of importance, its just that i am really getting into these threads of yours and am following along with much interest, and after reading your story i figured you would be planting babies real soon! with that being said, you know how i said i had 2 seeds, well now i got 20 (half of which is og kush and the other half just random, all of which have parents that were grown on this island, from my friend that bred his batch.) long story short, a friend of mine owed me money and decided to pay me off in seeds :thumbsup: . and i am germinating only 1 for now as of this morning, i am tight on money and i dont really have too much supplies to be planting a bunch, (that and i wanna save most of them for when short season is done and i can get them huge)

i just wanna follow along with your planting to get a great yeild. which is why im curious as to how old these new batches of yours are, i want to have as close of timing to yours as possible :hippy: . as for soil... well im taking your tips about planting into the ground vs keeping them contained in pots. I couldnt find the soil brands you gave me, so i jus got some 'black gold' not too sure on wat company it is but thats what its called. as for ferts, i havent got any yet but i will be buying some this weekend, again i did some looking around and couldnt find the same brand that you use, i did however find a 'organic' 14-14-14 time release fertelizer (which is good cause of how i wanna keep my plants all organic) i forgot the name of the brand though.

so i did some sight seeing today in this jungle i call my back yard. i found a better spot then im using now, its a little further away but has way less trees and bushes around which in essence would give my plants less shade during certain hours of the day. the more direct sunlight the better right?! i have already prepped the hole. i dug it about 1 ft deep by 1 ft in diamiter. is this a good enough size hole or not? i cut out all the roots that was sticking out of the hole and pulled out all the weeds in about a 3 ft radius from the hole, again is this good enough or no? i will be dropping some lime in the hole and fill it some what with the soil i got and put in some fertelizer soon as i buy it! (well actually more likely as soon as you tell me if i need to prep the spot better or not) and as soon as this plant of mine will be ready to transplant it will go straight into the hole and filled up to the top with the rest of the soil! you said 5 sets of leafs if im not mistaken right? if theres any tips you can give me it will be much appreciated, i wanna follow you step by step and make the best out of the little i know.

[oldhaole]

The later batches were dropped in the cracking dish two weeks ago.

As for the seeds you have I would get them going now. You will run into more seeds. Right now you need to get a season under your belt. I've said this before, you will need a lot more seeds than you have. If you want to do it down and dirty, plant 4 plants in that big hole you just dug. Leave the males and females together, rip the fags (sorry if that term offends anybody) and let them do their thing.

Besides, you're screwed if those seeds you got for repayment are duds. The only way to know if your seeds are fresh is if you make them yourself. And you're going to need a lot.

You should be spending a lot more time in your backyard. Oahu has too many people, and there are a lot of rips. If you want to get trees, you're going to want a safe place to put them. Unless they are behind a fence, with a couple of mean dogs guarding them 24/7, some asshole will make a grab for them. Even then, if your not legal, green harvest will take them.

If you're creative, you should be able to pull some smaller ones. And the time to do that is now. Forget about trees. If your not legal you gotta go small. Three foot plants, in pots, southern exposure, blocked sight lines, NO TRAILS and NO PARTNERS!

You have a lot of guava or christmas berry? put them at the base on the south side of the bush. Use clippers to open them to the sun. You can water by going under the tree.

Nobody ever looks up. If you can, put them in the trees. Got blackberry or cactus? Lots of thorns? Put them there. The uglier the better. Hide them where nobody in their right mind would go.

Water at dawn or dusk. Don't ever get spotted hauling water.

Use tabbies instead of boots. Don't scuff or leave mud on any wood or rock you step on. Go under, not through.

And I'm only getting started. All this stuff you must learn by yourself. And it ain't no picnic.

The easy way would be;
a) get legal
b) get your own land
c) get fence
d) get a pack of dogs
e) get very cool neighbors (preferably also growing their own)

Once you do all that you shouldn't have any problems. Until that point, be content with a flock of smaller, easier to hide, plants.

[oldhaole]

Batch Two... The batch I had high hopes for....the ones that were suppose to be femmed....weren't. I just wasted a month and a few thousand seeds. Epic failure. Wonderfuckinfull.

So batch two is a waste. I could try to salvage something out of this, but it will come back to bite me later. So I pulled them all and dumped the seeds. Garbage in, garbage out.

But....I had batch three waiting in the wings. So my holes were empty for all of a half hour. So all those sweet plans I had....

Never mind.

A stumble, but not fatal. It will jam up my timing though. A big short season will not happen. To bad..so sad...for me. WHAAAAA.

Regrow Sativas need to be put in by Jan 21st. It will take a month to boost the starts, and I can do that in pots, so I don't need to clear and plant the big ones in the holes until the end of Febuary. Or I could sneak two plants (mature 90 day wonders with a small keiki in the same hole to regrow. Take the buds, and the regrow will be left smiling)

Batch one seeds will be ready. Batch three...probably. Four ,five and six...they won't be ready. Not even close. They are going to have to go into pots, or in the cane. Cross that bridge later. They are all good stand alone strains, so I may just make it easy and cross them with themselves.

A friend gave me two....count 'em....two. Jack seeds. Well praise Allah one is a girl, and one is a boy. Like them apples? Something goes right. WTF? Those seeds will be ready and crossed in time for long season. Unless the girl fags...anybody want to put money on that?

Jesus wept. This is starting to get complicated. I'm on a deadline. Why can nothing be easy? So I'll do what I normally do. Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks. Why should this year be any different?

Did I mention it rained today? Probably will have more this week? About time.

I have 90 give or take days to get these keikis up, pull males, into bud. defagged, crossed, seeds matured, harvested, seeds removed, weed tested, best saved, and replanted....Shit....Piece of cake, and I have some beachfront land in Iowa to sell you.

At least there is an outside chance that this log may get intresting. I may have to dig into my bag of tricks to pull this off.

Stay tuned.

[weeddaddy50]

my parents ( in there 70's now) always told me plan for the worst.....if you can live with that...everything is else if gravy.

Oldhaole.....I just chuckle about the Quads....I have several of them and have been on my butt several times.....I am too old to crash and burn on them....but it happens.

Good luck ....keep us posted.

I have a breeding project of my own going right now.....But I only have 30 seeds of each strain....we will see how it goes.

[oldhaole]

I am a sick bastard....like I'm telling you something you already don't know.

I also have too much free time today. So the sick comes bubbling right to the top.

Here's the story...and I'm sticking to it.

I wander out to the gulch. And what do I find??? See for yourself. That damn male is getting more than I ever did. There is no god.

Since I saw it with my own eyes and got the shots, I will be happy to explain what I saw.

Pic 1) What? looks like the old 69 to me.
Pic 2) Back to the conventionary missionary position.
Pic 3) The post coital smoke.
Pic 4) Shit...Looks like he went to sleep. I guess it's universal.

I think there is a fair chance she is hapai. My first cross. In living color. Before they went nuts...I'll leave that alone...I shook off...or should I say "manually released?'' two envelopes of pollen. They are in my freezer.

It appears the male expired right after sex and she ate him...go figure. So I have a hole to fill....don't go there....That's my job. :D

Later

The Pervert

[Weezard]

Red dirt below.
Blue sky above.
He finds in da grow.
Hot, green, monkey love!

Well, did dey letcha get away wit' it, did dey?:D

Yeah, veg. porn!

Weeze

[truepunk87]

.wow......been awhile since I got to check this. I just love your threads. I make it a point to check in once a week and read. Your a great story teller:thumbsup: and I learn a lot by reading this thread. So far.....no questions. Check back soon. Peace:hippy:

[oldhaole]

Weez....Yea they have let me get away with more than I expected....Is that a good thing?:wtf:

True.... Thanks for feeding my oversized ego....Is that a good thing?:D

When we last left our hero, he was littering up the board with a totally gratuitious post. What was he thinking??? Maybe a second gratuitious post is needed.

Naaa, I don't think so.****Danger!!!....boring post ahead***

I've been devoting this short season to a few goals

1) I want to get my short season plants to 5 ft. I'm going to win that battle, but lose the war. When you mess around and drop young starts under 24 hr light, you get a lot of males. I could have beat this thru shear numbers, but I didn't have the seeds I needed to do the job.

2) I wanted to put a flock in the fields, to do that I needed the seeds from batch two to be femmed. Total clusterfuck there. Failure.

3) I wanted to breed a larger and better Thai/Skunk cross. I now have people pissed at me because I won't let any of it go. I'm keeping it all for me. From last year I have reconized four different variations. I crossed the two largest similar variations....you saw it in the last post. This is going as well as can be expected. It should fly.

4) I want to grow new strains. Better strains. Notice goals 1-3 all depend on an abundance of seeds. Everything starts there. Everything. Screw this up and I am back to the strains I used last year. And they are cold product.

Sorry. boring post....It get's worse.

Breeding and crossbreeding....I'm sure many of you do this differently, and will get a chuckle off how I am going to mangle this, but it works for me.

In order to construct a good strain, first you have to de construct it. That means you must put a bunch of seeds in from a single plant m/f cross As these seeds grow, you watch them, and note the different phenotypes that occur. Pick the one with all the best traits, cross them, and dump the rest. Do that for a few years....and baby, you got something special.

I did this with batch one. Will it work? We'll see in part 3.

I also have the time I need to do the same thing with batch three. Three is a Sativa all the way, looks like it has potential, but if it doesn't...out it goes. I will cross it with the second Thai/Skunk I have....just to see what happens. There will be no more live sex shows. From now on it's paintbrush time.

The rest get done down and dirty. I'm going to dig into my bag of tricks, and fire these seeds out in 90 days. And I'm going to do it with just nine plants from each batch. I will try to do some selection, but it ain't going to be pretty. All of the last 3 batches, are low yielders, not enough yield to make them houseplants. The last batch is a old style Hash Bud....I gotta keep that alive. I drool just thinking about it.

Well if you slogged through all that bullshit...You're a better man than I Gunga-Din....I know...I mangled that quote too.

Fuck...It's getting cold here. It's 56 at 1 AM....Bet we will break 50 tonight...Just too damn cold.....Us poor Hawaii bastards....don't you all just pity us?

I'm thinking of a new name. It has been suggested by....let's just call him a far holier man than I....that I dump oldhaole, and go by the new moniker
Moneyloving asshole baby....I'm now giving that serious consideration....

I'll get back to you on that.

[Lynhal]

Best of luck to you in reaching your goals! I'll be popping in to check how things are going along for you and your crossbreeding endeavors. :thumbsup:

[oldhaole]

Dawn has broken for most of the island, but not for us. The sun will take 30 more minutes to come over the hill, and until then I am freezing. Fourty eight...here this AM. In the house!

As soon as the sun finds us I am going to snap some pics of my little seed project.

I start out with 4 inch pots. The spot I picked for them gets sunlight from 10 AM to 5 PM. I leave them alone, after the fifth set of leaves they should declare. Haul the males off to an undiclosed location, Let the girls grow, Kill the fa....I won't say it...hermis....You know what I mean.

I know...this is weed 101. Tell us something we don't know.

OK...timing is everything. Pollinate too early, no seeds, but good weed. Pollinate too late, tons of seeds, and shitty weed. Do the deed when the buds are dime sized, and you get mature seeds at the base of the buds, and good unseeded weed on the top. This becomes important down the road when you are trying to pick the best.

I'm not going to have the time to make deliberate informed crosses, because I am ignorant about these strains. Never grew them before...except the HB...that I've grown before. So this all turns into a learning experience. As I said earlier, throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

[steezyd]

really enjoyed that sugar cane piece.

[oldhaole]

really enjoyed that sugar cane piece.

Thank you. Partner and I enjoyed it too. All except the bleeding part. And the crashing part. And wandering around with two black eyes, and having all my friends laugh, and ask "you tuned you up?" wasn't much fun either. So I should say partner had fun, me...not so much.

But Shit happens. The work we did there remains. The hard stuff is done. Give me 6 hours on a Sunday, and 120 starts, and the job will be done. See batch 2 failure a few posts back. That screwed that pooch. I don't have the keikis.

However......story time.

I thought I was done with the seeds. These came to me from a friend of a friend. They fell out of the sky. An experimental batch. I will not identify these, I was asked not to...so they will be called Brand X.

I'm sure the creator is reading this, Great germination rate. @3% duds. Start the clock.

So I now have enough to justify a cane run. Barely.

Now before you get your panties all in a wad...

Oooh good! OH is going to bleed again!!...

We will NOT be going in Friday afternoon. We will go in Sunday evening...when it's quiet. If we do this right, the deed will take an hour, and it won't even be worth a post.

[LetsSeeYa]

We will NOT be going in Friday afternoon. We will go in Sunday evening...when it's quiet. If we do this right, the deed will take an hour, and it won't even be worth a post.

Oh come on now, ya really think we believe that you cant make a post out of this:yeahright:. Il bet more people hit this thread then any iv seen lately, we just luv your paint:rastabanna:drying. Its that :greenthumb: we like to see of yours and im not sure about everyone else, but i come here everyday:thumbsup:

I think anyone that has read the last thread is on top of this one and just because you dont have monsters out doesn't make your threads anymore less ''Titts'':thumbsup:and the nice one's that look at the moon kind too!:lol5:

So do us that thing you do:computerlove1:so when i move next door some day, you wont have to explain how to grow the good stuff on that big rock your on:S3:.


And this needs to be put with thread #1 and become a Sticky, its as good if not better then that trinobil<guess sp, but ya all know the thread. Its in the indoor called ''sealed room'', but these blow it away. It should be in the Advance Techniques section, perfect fit:detective1:



See Ya bro:rasta:

[oldhaole]

Of course you're right. If I can scrape a log out of this weak year, just think what I could do, if all...or at least most...of my plants didn't have balls.

Who cares? I'll get what I need out of this season. Any idiot can make seeds. I got it covered.

But I gotta tell you. I'd rather have monsters.

And Thank You for saying all that nice stuff....if you're expecting the zinger...there is none.... Thanks to all that follow this madness....

I'm going to cry....Let's all join hands and sing Kumbya....NOT....

KAABOOM!!!

3 AM....It's here early. First Kona storm of the season. It was pounding Kauai yesterday, so it wasn't unexpected. Brought all the starts in last night. I was ready.

So BFD... you guys have them every other week. But you don't have your plants outside. In a gulch. That occasionally flows. The storm is kinda wide so it will be raining for a while. There actually expecting snow on the Big Island. Welcome to Hawaii. Enjoy the snow.

I'm running on fumes... A couple of post ago Stomper asked what makes a good grow log, My name was mentioned, and that made it totaly inappropriate for me to answer, so I will do so now, burried at the bottom of this thread.

I grow log, to me, is a place I can record events in the grow. If it's entertaining or not, it's for the author. After almost a lifetime of medication, I tend to forget a lot of stuff. What I do, when I do it, and why.

Others can follow along, ask questions, and hopefuly not make the same mistakes twice. All of us are working toward the same goal.

If you are horribly bent, like me, let her rip, Then you get either pathetic, or entertaiment. Gotta take a chance sometime. The worst that can happen is people tell you to STFU. I'm married...Like I haven't heard that before.

End of sermon.

OK here some shitty pics of my shitty plants, before the shitty rain floods the shitty gulch and washes them into my neighbors yard.

1) T/S 1st batch. so far virgin, will use her for breeding other batches.
2) Batch 3. Look how desperate I am to see something without balls. I've got holes double planted, praying for girls.
3) T/S whore. I'm watching seeds swell. Slut.
4) The two middle ones are the Jack seeds. The rest are batch 3. Some girls would be nice. So far, my grow has been like a bad Porno movie...too many balls. Not enough pu....you know what I mean.
5) T/S This is what a 90 day wonder should look like. It's a reject. It didn't have the height I wanted. So I didn't breed it. But you can bet your left nut I will smoke it.

It is now light, so I wandered down to the gulch. A few undelared plant were on the ground, but no flood. Just minor stuff. Easy fixes.

A plan emerges...partner just called. He is rained out. No job today. So today becomes Kief day. We only have like 8 boxes of bottom buds to shake. Now we have a worthless day to do it on....Got lemons?... make lemonade.

[goliath808]

"4) The two middle ones are the Jack seeds. The rest are batch 3. Some girls would be nice. So far, my grow has been like a bad Porno movie...too many balls. Not enough pu....you know what I mean."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. before i got this post started, i jus had to laugh at this one....

any ways, so i did what u told me. i threw 3 seeds into that hole i dug up.. i had a total of 5 plants, the midget (hope no one feels offended by that term) i was talking about, which is my 1st plant. the og kush that i started 2 weeks ago that i put into a pot about a week n a half ago. and i put the 3 sprouts into that hole. meanwhile, DLNR was snooping around my forest, yes i said my forest. i dont care if it belongs to the state, i claim that territory.LOL! :rasta: they were saying something about suspicious activities in the neighborhood!!! no way are they gonna trace it back to me though. this is like a game of chess, im 2 steps ahead of them, and im doing investigations of my own.. i mean c'mon now this is my neighborhood. do they really think i wont notice a guy that isnt my neighbor walking his dog. or a van that practically has a sign that says 'this is an undercover van' (not literally speaking but you know what i mean dont you?)

anywho... so they did some snooping around in my forest, and they dug up the hole, well atleast i think they found it, it wasnt completely destroyed but it looked like someone was snooping around that general area and i know it was the DLNR. i seen tracks i didnt leave, and the hole looked like, well it didnt look dug up, but the ferts i put ontop was swooshed around. i have a pretty good photographic memory and i know it wasnt how i left it..

well, i think theres still a chance that the seeds are still in there, ive still been watering it everyday, for about a week now, just incase they are late sprouts..

but even if the plants got ripped, the good thing is i still got the midget that should be ready to harvest in maybe 2 weeks, the og kush, which is in a 3rd hiding spot, i check on her eerday (well i hope its a her) shes doin good, and growing pretty fast. damn them ferts are working wonders! and im glad they didnt find everything!

even better i still got 4 seeds, and 10 more on the way that my friend still owes me! if in another week the seeds dont sprout through the soil, then imma put 3 more into the hole. i figure, if DLNR already ripped it, they prolly wont think im dumb enough to use the same hole. well guess what, im so dumb it makes me smart. bwahahahahahahaha! well atleast i hope so.. they havent been around since.....

well actually let me give you a discription of my forest, then ill continue with the DLNR story... starting from my houst theres about 20 yards till the trees start, where the trees start theres a cliff, the cliff goes down about 50 ft, (not a straight drop but pretty steep) and this little valley at the bottom is about 50 yrsd from my side of the cliff to the other side, there are houses on the other side, but theres a lot of trees blocking direct view from my side, so you cant really see the plants from there, i already checked.. at the very top part of the hill on the other side of the valley theres a mantion (sp?) with a ginormous back yard, now you know how i say my forest, well the guy that ownes this house can literally and legally say his forest. on the realz!

any ways back to DLNR topic. with that discription... i havent seen them snooping around my neighborhood since the plants were ripped, about 2 weeks ago, however the mantion i was speaking of has a parking structure that is at the end of his side of the cliff, and there was another UC truck this time about 5 days ago... this is what there saying... "where gonna get this guys, where on to whoever is planting in our forest" LOL. heres what im saying at the same time... "no no no no. im on to you guys, im staying low profile about this shit and doing my own investigations. you wont catch me, like i said.. game of chess, im letting you guys think your on to something. but trust and beleive. im 2 steps ahead!" that was the last time i seen them.

so basic summery. i had 5 plants. some dick head people that work for the state took 3 (good thing i still got 2 and they didnt find those) in a week imma plant 3 more and have 5 again... then the next week imma harvest 1 have 4.... you guys get the picture!

well OH! hows this so far for my first season?! and the learning started... and continues! cant wait till i become pro like you :thumbsup: get giant harvests and look like this :stoned: after i reap my plants. hahaha. well that and i cant wait to get legal too...

again, tips are welcome!! thanks in advanced, and thanks for taking the time to read this boring story of mines!

[oldhaole]

Of all the officials you DON"T want to mess with DLNR is the worst. They're mostly wanabes.... Guys that did not make the cut to become cops...Cops kinda look down on them. So they have something to prove.

They also have a radio, and a gun, and with one call can bring a world of shit down on your head. DO NOT play games with them.

One of their favorite tricks is waiting at the trailhead, and harassing pig hunters after the hunt. Is that gun legal? let's run the #s. are your dogs licienced? Any chickenshit violation. Some of the smarter ones wander into the forest, because hunters know that trick, and stash the illegal stuff before they emerge. If the area you live in has such a trailhead, that's probably what they are doing. I don't think they give a rats ass about your grow, but you had better be safe, so remember...... its their forest.

That big hole you dug? See? That doesn't work. You can't hide it. Never replant a ripped hole. They will come back, ooooorrrrr they have their own crop in the area.

From all the comotion you describe, there may be something going on in your neighborhood, but It ain't about you. Unless you have some side job going that your not telling us about. That doesn't mean you can't become collateral damage though.

I've already told you this, and proved it to be true. If your not legal, you want to go small. In pots. Very well hidden. No trails. And you're watering too much. If you have strawberry guava growing, you USUALLY have the natural rainfall for weed.
You have a couple of safe spots...with all the rain we just had, forget about them for a week. A plant doesn't need you staring at it to grow. Once it becomes established. Leave it alone!

If you want something to do, safely figure out a way down that cliff and finds great spots you can stash a pot or a plant. Don't get greedy, one here, one there. But remember, there are 10 guys in the houses on the other side of the ridge that have the same ideas as you. Chess anyone?

Crack your seeds in a paper towel. Do your starts in small pots. Just like I do. Protect them until they are big enough to live on their own. Then move them to pots and stash them. Stay away from the forest. Stick to the scrubland. I've already given you that speach.

Once again, when you're ready to do this the right way get legal....never thought I hear myself say that.

If you think a set up like mine is cheap....wrong answer. And it took almost a lifetime to get it to where I want it. But that's the difference between legaly growing on your land, vs not. Too bad Oahu stopped growing sugar. We could have turned you loose there.

[oldhaole]

Friday we had the first Kona storm of the Winter. As storms go this was minor, but it dropped 5 inches of rain over 48 hours. A great slow rain, perfect.

On a rainy day i have two choises. I can let the wife of my youth boss me around....or....I can bail to my partners house and spend the day making kief...I wonder....

So kief it is.

After long season, you have a lot of bottom buds that just don't meet standards. You also may have a plant or two that just doen't float your boat. So I took that with me too.

You can also, and should shake your leaves. The final product will not be as good, and have more of a green color.

So we shook a half lb or so of crap. Took about 3 hours. The other three were spent sampling product.

Pic 1) the shaker
Pic 2) the days work
Pic 3) quality....white is better...way way better.

[Horsemanrocks]

Just love the CF Chronicles OHâ?¦..like so many I look forward to the next chapter.

As popular as they are with the C.com audience, they appear to be viewed and applauded across the islands. I know that the last time I visited the islands the most repeated phrase that I heard from the locals was â??go haole goâ?�. :D

So as one of thousandsâ?¦I chant:

go haole go !

go haole go !

go haole go !

Looking forward,
HMR

[oldhaole]

Just love the CF Chronicles OHâ?¦..like so many I look forward to the next chapter.

Thank you....I think. Maybe next Friday, an hour before payday, We'll attack the mill, do some donoughts around the big bosses car, maybe kick his door in, and see how many workers will chase us. Then my partner and I can have a contest to see how many of those workers we can wreck out....one can dream....see.... I've given this some thought. :D

As popular as they are with the C.com audience,

That makes me happy.

they appear to be viewed and applauded across the islands.

That doesn't. Its an island. I would like to keep a low profile....Kinda blew that idea up....Oh well...

Now... about that chant....sorry to be the one to tell you... You missed a few words....Understandable.

It's not Go haole go

It's "Fuckin' go, haole go home". Only real good tippers hear the version you did.

Consider yourself lucky...It's that Aloha spirit you hear so much about. :mad:

By the way, there is a taste of the canefield comicals (not a mistake) in Part one. Right at the beginning. The fields are my insurance policy. One should pay off depending on rainfall. Dry year like this one...house paid off, cane sucked wind. Wet years like the one comming up, the cane works, while I fight the mold wars here at the house. So I'm just covering my bases. Once a decade, both pay off. :D Once a decade, neither work. :(

Maybe next year I will do two logs....The cane comicals and a house log. I know guerilla grows are frowned upon here, and it is a very small nitche grow.
So it's not like you will learn anything....but it could be a rush. It could also be horribly boring.

The donor of my last batch of seeds will be curious, I'll keep a breeder here, but the rest go to the cane. I also have some Diesel starts with no place to go too either. So there's a good chance there will be a small scale cane comical this short season...stick with it.

[Weezard]

:cool:Sticking.

Weeze

[oldhaole]

Definite attitude improvement.

In every grow I've ever done, there is a threshold waiting to be crossed. It goes from "this ain't going to work" to "this may just work".

Today, I crossed that line.

It help when you start to see little white hairs. Just one or two per plant can lift your spirits. The last few times I went into the gulch, I left dead males in my wake each time. This time it was girl, girl, girl, don't know, girl...no males.

B came over to my house for a safty meeting. He gave me batch 3 (the sativa). We got to talking shop and I asked about the parentage of the seeds he gave me. He tells me he had them stashed for a year in his freezer.
Cool, but where did they come from? He got a few seeds from a bag I gave him, years ago and he kept crossing them with themselves.

So in effect, I just got back some plants, from a strain I lost long ago, that B was kind enough to keep alive and return to me. Neat Huh? That's the way things work on an Island. He took my strain, put his spin on it for a few generations and gave it back.

Of all the T/S, I captured the trait I was most looking for. The great combination of both height and yield....I watched this last year, and I know what it looks like. She will be the universal mother. Thats the first pic. The second cross T/SxT/S2 has white zipties.

Next pic is the trait I call topknot. This should go elsewhere. Up here...rot city. In a few weeks seeds will be ready.

Pic 3 is a Jack Herer girl. Funny ass growing plant. It needs branches. I guess I forgot what a pure sativa looked like. Knock wood, she is stable. Also every plant behind her is a girl...so far.

And I have a Jack male too.:thumbsup:

Pic 4 is an experiment. When I dumped batch 2, she already had declared. Damned if i throw away an established girl. So she is now one of 2 survivors of Batch 2. I will have to keep my eye on them.

Pic 5 is a Batch 4 girl... thats right batch 4. Four and 5 barely have five sets of leaves, and they are already showing sex. It doesn't matter where I pollenate her, so I put her in the gulch, try to get some size on her.

[hemptations]

love reading your grow log. unfortunately someone salted my grows. One survived who has survived a 10 foot fall already and still no broken stem. Any suggestions to try and help it? should i flush it?

[oldhaole]

love reading your grow log. unfortunately someone salted my grows. One survived who has survived a 10 foot fall already and still no broken stem. Any suggestions to try and help it? should i flush it?

Dude...thats deep. Salt?

Never heard of that one before. Gotta ask...why? Do they never want anything growing there next year? Salt?

You stumped me. These are all wild assed guesses. If you flush, I don't think it could be flushed totaly out. Maybe you could take the top inch of soil off?
Honestly...I got nothing. Sorry. No idea.

I mean they just could have ripped the plants and be done with it. Instead they want you to watch them die slowly....thats very very deep. Like personal insult deep. Like psycho old ex girlfriend deep.

Throw the question out there. Hey people!

You read braddah's story. Salt. Can anyone out there give him a hand? If you want, feel free to use this thread, or start another. Salt....What do you do now?

[canniwhatsis]

No shit! :eek:


Probably some other "Player" in the black market that didn't want the competition. :mad:


Salt's pretty Fucked up, you can try flushing, but unless your girls are in pots you'll need one of those deep root fertilizing probes that the Tree maintenance crews use, and an ASSLOAD of PH'd water! :(


I'm in the same boat as OH,... You got me! That's the best I can come up with.



Sorry for the threadjack OH! :o

[hemptations]

Dude...thats deep. Salt?

Never heard of that one before. Gotta ask...why? Do they never want anything growing there next year? Salt?

You stumped me. These are all wild assed guesses. If you flush, I don't think it could be flushed totaly out. Maybe you could take the top inch of soil off?
Honestly...I got nothing. Sorry. No idea.

I mean they just could have ripped the plants and be done with it. Instead they want you to watch them die slowly....thats very very deep. Like personal insult deep. Like psycho old ex girlfriend deep.

Throw the question out there. Hey people!

You read braddah's story. Salt. Can anyone out there give him a hand? If you want, feel free to use this thread, or start another. Salt....What do you do now?

trust me I was blown away to walk up on my plants and see them almost disappeared to nothing.. first instinct, looked at the ground to see if something had been tampered with, noticed salt crystals on the ground. obviously salt too, like they might as well left a message that said "when it rains it pours". even more puzzling this fighter plant , only has the two round leaves and is already 6 inchers tall no sign of new nodes yet has already taken a 9 foot tumble and landed on its stem with no bends or snaps or damage at all really, survived the salt bandit. hopefully he keeps fighting but jeez man. They could have just killed my girlfriend or something.


sorry for all the spam, you can take it as a complement because its a result of me posting where i found the most knowledge to be and i was already reading these awesome adventures of the maui mafia

[oldhaole]

As we taxi out to the main runway, the rain gets worse. They hold us at the threshold. Out of the mist a pair of lights slowly emerge. I have the best seat in the house. As the landing lights get bigger, a plane appears, suddenly it's screaming along, right next to us, everything behind the cockpit is unseen, except the tail, shrouded in steam, mist, and rain as the Hawaiian 757 plops down, full flaps, dumps his spoilers and the beautiful plane franticly bleeds off airspeed, and turns into a fat waddleing bus at the end of the runway..

About the time the noise reaches us we have turned onto the runway and are starting our run. Thirtyfive hundred feet later we are clawing for altitude. Bye bye Maui... Time to renew my MMJ licence. I'm on a single engine puddle jumper heading for Kona.

When I arrive, I meet up with a new old friend. He was kind enough to let me crash at his house...AND.... his better half is a GREAT Chef. I am not proud to report he smoked me under the table. Crashed early and crashed hard. Thanks again.

The Oahu gang showed up the next morning. Things at the Dr's office have gone downhill. Last year we went out to the country, and sat an a bench outside, with an oceanview. The Doctor now has an office in downtown Kona, with a headshop downstairs....what can I say? Nothing says serious doctor like a headshop as a side business. Stay classy Doc. :wtf:

My mouth got me in trouble again. One of the Oahu boys want out to pick up some goodies from his friend to take back. We all went along for the ride. At the meet I was minding my business sitting in the back. Out of the blue I was asked by the grower what I thought of the product. I said it looked great if you were buying stems...then asked which one of his children grew it...and then I offered to send him a real oz for free when I got home....

Why is everyboby glaring at me? Hell, don't ask me a question if you don't want an answer.

Back home was uneventful. All except it rained all day every day I was gone. The T/S reject was rejected for a reason. When I saw it this AM it was a ball of mold. The T/S I call topknot is doing well and had almost reached the 5 ft mark. See pic below. The seeds are a two weeks from mature. The top looks good too. Pic 2.

The seed project is working as planned. Except this plan has no Males. First batch had almost all males, this...so far...none. There are a couple that may be male, but so far nothing. Feast or famine.

My guess the mistake I made with batch 1 was hitting them with 24 hour light before they declared, creating way too many males. So I have a batch of Kush that already have declared female. So today I put them in bigger pots and an now going to hit them with 24 hour hybred light for the next month. Maybe I will have better luck working with declared girls. Maybe they all will go fag on me. I am still fishing for the 5 ft short season plant....More than one that is... Front end didn't work, now I will try the back end.

Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

While I have been making a hash of the last few months, my partner has been patiently waiting. He will not get serious until Christmas. Christmas day I get let into the seed vault. He always does an April harvest. He has plans, and I saw about 300 pots with dirt in them....:D.

The way this usualy works is he will create this monster, then rely on me to bail him out instead of the usual he bail me out. This long short season (Jan- May) will be many things... dull will not be one of them.

The girls in the gulch are begining to show potential. Got home, no males. That's a change. They are doing ok. Pic 3...all girls!

[LetsSeeYa]

Looking great as always my friend:thumbsup:. Laughed my ass off imagining the browsing of smoking devises before seeing the Doc. And if it was my first time, id buy so much crap so when i go into the room to talk with the Doc, my arm's would be filled with his merchandise. Hey Doc this pipe work well? Oh btw i need a card to go with all this stuff, lol. Keep it real Doc:thumbsup:



Way to keep er green my friend:weedpoke:



:rasta:

[oldhaole]

If you have a mmj card, you get 10 % off. If you got the card from the doctor...20% off....If you don't have a card....you pay full pop.

Nothing says professional, like Doctor so and so's office and headshop.

[LetsSeeYa]

If you have a mmj card, you get 10 % off. If you got the card from the doctor...20% off....If you don't have a card....you pay full pop.

Nothing says professional, like Doctor so and so's office and headshop.

Man thats just crazy man, but id say your at the right Doc. Id bet you might get some referrals from him? Sounds like he's out to make what he can with the wonder meds:hippy:

I cant tell ya i blame him as you know he is probably the ''Doc'' to go to for a card. And with the head shop down stairs, im sure everyone is going to send their friends to that Doc.

Still i cant stop cracking up:jointsmile:



:rasta:

[Weezard]

Man thats just crazy man, but id say your at the right Doc. Id bet you might get some referrals from him? Sounds like he's out to make what he can with the wonder meds:hippy:

I cant tell ya i blame him as you know he is probably the ''Doc'' to go to for a card. And with the head shop down stairs, im sure everyone is going to send their friends to that Doc.

There-in lies the problem.

Still i cant stop cracking up:jointsmile:

:rasta:



Howzit, LSY?

I jus' gots to inject tuppence here,
based upon well-founded fear

Right doc?
Wrong doc?
If he evah goes IPO,
I'm buyin' some stock!:jointsmile:

Teaming up with the hea, um, medical supplies boutique, is brilliant.
I guess since Hawaii's head narc had this ducktors name comin' out his mouth in a newspaper article, (Head of da narcotics dept. complained dat Berg had thousands of patients and actually wrote a rec. for "bad feet".) he's gone "all-in".
I expect trouble.



Well, not personally.
I use a less mallardly physician, in town, because I can.:cool:
The "head" doctor is a long drive north and when da fit hits the shan he might be da wrong man.

Still, if you need MMJ, but lack the necessary medical records, Ducktor Berg's da bes' bet onna B.I.

For anyone with supporting medical records, I recommend the MUMs clinic and Dr. Charles Webb.

Aloha O.H.

Hope you dodged this last downpour.
We got freakin' hammered yesterday!
Lightnin', thunder, an' vertical rivers.
When it passed, we saw lightning over Maui for a couple hours.
Had me worryin' 'bout Mr. n Mrs. Herrer.
Hope dey doin' OK.:)

Next time you come B.I., maybe stay longer.
Sounds like you only got to see a tiny bit.
It's actually worth a recreational trip or two.:cool:

Aloha,
(no, really)
ALO HA!

Weeze

[oldhaole]

I get the drift from the good capitalistic doctor is that he is spoiling for a fight...until the state gives him one, he will continue handing out cards like a priest handing out absolution....

You are pure of heart
Go forth and sin no more.

The Dr is no longer in Hawi. That was a great set up he had. Now he's in downtown. No drive, no view, add a headshop.

Doctor Berg declared;
I'm not surprized to see you here
You've got smokers cough from smoking
Brewers drip from drinking beer

I don't know how you came to get those Betty Davis knees.
Worst of all, young man, you have industrial desease.

He wrote me a perscription
said you are depressed.
I'm glad you came to see me,
to get this off your chest
Come back to see me later
next patient please.
Send in another victim of Industrial Desease.

See??? I am a victim!!!

I looked up toward the volcano last night and saw the light show. We got a lot of rain...still is falling now. But the nasty stuff fell between us.

Mr and Mrs Herrer came through just fine. She filled a TRO against him, so he had to move elsewhere.

Pic 1 is her
Pic 2 is him

Next time I will stick around a bit longer. It is a beautiful BIG place.

Thanks again

OH

[goliath808]

the plant i started a few weeks ago was doing verry well, untill this past storm tore it apart, now back to square 1 :( .... so last week i germinated my last 3 seeds (well not my absolute last, my friend will give me the 10 he owes me as soon as i ask for them) 1 was a dud. the other 2 i have put into the soil and have sprouted already. the ferts are still doing wonders, only 1 day in soil and a sprout, im impressed!!! :D

any ways, we'll see how these last 2 goes, hopefully there wont be another deadly storm for a few weeks till the plants can actually handle the pour! as for that midget i had, i chopped off the crown last week, it was too early and the buds werent that great, i mean it get me nd 2 of my frenz super blazed for like 30 mins, it was only 30 mins, but an intense 30 mins for that matter. shoulda waited a few more weeks b4 samples! oh well, doesnt matter, one of my friends are gonna re veg it for me! i wanna see a miricle happen, do midgets have growth sperts after being fully grown?! well this one sure as hell will. :hippy: bwahahahahahahahahaha.

besides that, i cant wait to see if these 2 new sprouts will do well. i hope so, cuz 4 plants were wasted in my experience so far, and i want no more to be put to waste!

any ways, being that your on the topic of the doc... your gonna have to tell me where i can find this doc, i know u told me big island, and from what i read, kona side! but i wanna know directions to this place, and u said dr. berg? weather thats just an alias name u gave him or his real name, well thats besides the point, if i end up seeing him then ill find out his name. but... im not leaving this island any time soon, i gotta take care of some business down here first b4 i can leave the island. court orders, i cant get on a plane. never mind why, thats besids the point. no being niele! LOL. for the readers that arent from hawaii, nor know how to speak hawaiian, niele= nosey! well when i can leave this island ill let u know so i can get more info on becoming legal!

tips are still welcome! mahalo for taking the time of reading this newbs thread!

[WashougalWonder]

OH....That is a great pair of shots showing the difference in the growth pattern of male/female....Great teaching tool you have there.
:thumbsup:

[oldhaole]

Gol...Get the seeds you are owed...now.

Next front moves thru Mon and Tues. This one is going to be bigger than the last. Search for University of Hawaii Meterological Service. They have the best forecasts for Hawaii weather. So get ready for another pounding. The day before take steps to protect your Kekei.

You know, I know...everybody knows.. you took your top WAY too early. And the friend that is going to reveg it better be named Jesus Christ because it is far too early to have regrows happen. Kiss it bye bye. You will need a act of God to get a regrow out of it....or lights... BWAHAHAHAHA....sorry, I couldn't resist.

As for the doctor in question....look it up! He's in the book. He's real.

Ever heard of the expression, Too Much Information?...The last sentance in the last paragraph falls under that clause. If you don't want us to be nosey, don't tell us about it. Some things are better left unknown...house arrest is one of them.

WW... thank you. But I caused the growth pattern difference. I topped the male before I moved it. The Jack males and females look a lot alike. That male branched a bit more... not much, but it was noticable. But I am working with two whole seeds, so what it is, is a very tiny sample. I'm just doing the happy dance, because I have a boy and a girl (I soooo hope).

This is early, and probably premature, but I my partner owed me a favor,...long story...but he made good with three Black Thai seeds. He has had them stashed for a decade and more. One germinated. It has yet to show me HER sex yet. But SHE is out in the gulch. About a ft and a half tall.

Damn...after that build up, SHE will almost gurantee be a HE. But I'm going to copy you and give it a go.

[Weezard]

:bump2::)

Weeze

[oldhaole]

Shit....I got nothing....not true, but not good....

I'm franticly throwing shit against the proverbial wall and NOTHING is sticking...

The Thai plant....Balls....reject.
Those kush seeds must have been femmed. Like 40 starts...all girls.
The Diesel....same thing....all girls.
I got one fuckin male out of the HB...one.

Wana hear me whine some more?

After I made my first cross the mom shows nanners...
All my hopes of keeping the phenome of the T/S line ,I love, going rests on one plant.

The Jack is going fine. Already made a cross there. And the T/S too.

With all the rain, the fields are soup.
Go anywhere out there and you will leave a obvious trail. Might as well leave a big sign...plants here....

2010 is just about dead...no comment.

Pic 1 is the universal mom
Pic 2 is the Jack mom
Pic 3 & 4 ...gulch.
Pic 5...look what the rain brought.

[canniwhatsis]

That's a funny looking guard dog in that 4th pic! :hippy:

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow its amazing just how fast your plants grow there it seems. The gulch looks like its filled up again with what will be monster's after the re veg, right?I believe im right here, or is this an all out breed ta get seed. Im thinking 90 days and harvest bud, then ya got your re veg's for your main grow to get giant.

I do keep up here and do know you are crossing to improve growing ability in your environment, but are these plants re vegged as well. Gotta be, i just cant see you not re vegging something thats already up and lookin at ya:D. And seeds will be next years 90 day wonders, right? To then re veg.

Just trying to clarify what i think im expecting:hippy:

Have a great new year my friend:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[oldhaole]

Well we made it....another year done....

Last night was nuts...Take 10 dogs...add a pile of fireworks (not mine)...mix well...and we get a dogfight... Happy New Year...I'm getting too old for this shit.

Canni...That's my prototype guard cat...after last night...I'm thinking of going that direction...I'll need at least a hundred...maybe more...:D

LSY...I cheated a bit on those. Most of those are from batch 3. They got 3 weeks of 24 hour light. Same with the Jack. Those 3 weeks will add about 3 ft extra height.

Right now everything in the gulch will be taken by April. Those are a sativa and should get to 5 ft tall...maybe more...but it is a bit too early to start outdoor regrows yet. I think. My partner disagrees with me and has just cracked a bunch. So we will see who is right.

My day to start regrows is after Jan 21. Sativa Doms only. Use Indica Doms and you get buds by May, and confusion after that.

Speaking of confusion... That's where I am.

I used to laugh at you guys ordering seeds. Fuck. If only it was that simple.

Oh well....

And LSY....You will know when I start the regrows because that will be called...

Just Another Crappy Day in Paradise...part 3

But we'll fuck that donkey when we get to it. :D

Have a great New Year everyone. Big buds for all in 2011.

OH

[LetsSeeYa]

Sounds like ya had a pretty good New Year:thumbsup:glad to hear that bro. Its not my thing to get all pumped only to see the clock hit 12? But like to really have fun x-mas eve for some reason.

Ya ya, anyway, why not just take the bud from the plants you you have in the ground now. Its just that i think if you trimmed them down some they will not die, but stay alive until there is a change in light? Or is it something that has to do with the light and would just hermy them?


Now im only thinking of how i re vegged my indoor plants...oh and BTW new you put them plants in 24/0 light, but still their big!...........anyway, i just took the buds off the plant, trimmed some branch growth down, 2 re pots with the lights back to 18/6. Just with all your hard work, couldn't you maybe if its only around 3 weeks difference, plant late and use these to re veg? Hell then plant more to re veg as you normally would. Id try one only to see if it might save time and work, not to mention how big they would be at harvest with a jump start in growth. Damn i thought i got it the first thread or maybe just follow this thread to the end and go back and read part one again, because iv missed something. Is it a climate thing maybe?


Well ok thats it, lol:rasta:

[Weezard]

Lol

I was thinkin' 'bout ya last night with 80, trembling, pounds of wee beastie in my lap.

Good dog!
Says she'll take a bullet for me, long as da gun makes no noise.:)

Now I wait to see if my moron neighbor and his hellish bright, actinic, ground fountains, hemied my Jack.

He bought a new CFL porch light yesterday, so I had just gone out and tacked up some reflectix shielding for that.
So, of course, he comes to the back of his yard and starts chain-lighting the fountains.
You could read fine print in my greenhouse!:mad:

Hadda scramble for towels and clothespins.
If bad decisions were pennies, I'd have a very wealthy neighbor.

Your trees are impressive!:)

Aloha,
Weeze

[goliath808]

its like 2am right now, but yesterday around mid day i jus checked on the 2 plants that sprouted 2 weeks ago. the last time i checked them was, well 2 weeks ago. lol. but surprizingly the last storm didnt harm then. the only thing is that i think it rained so much, that all the ferts that were in the soil got drained out.. the growth slowed down incredibly, it pretty much looks ALMOST the same as when i last checked it! so its time to put more ferts. but thats for later on today hahahaha.
tips are still, and always will be wecome! and now its time to go nai nai!

[oldhaole]

LSY.... Climate....no. It's our photoperiod. Total swing between the longest day, and the shortest day is 2 hours 25 minutes. The gulch plants can't be regrown. Unlike you, I can't control the sun. :( So you work with what you get. I also need to clear the holes and put new dirt in, and all that fun stuff.

Four weeks... makes a difference between 1 in 10 regrowable to 7 out of 10 regrowable. Your always going to have some that just go off and can't be regrown.

Shit Weez...You got what? 100 lbs of dog total?

I got 700 lbs....Buy the way, was that fire started by you?

Got the first T/S x T/S seeds off the univeral mom. She got hit real early as I let the T/S male go crazy on her sister. Lots of pollen flying that day. All the seeds were at the base of the bud. Combed thru and got about 50....so that line lives on...pay the man. :thumbsup:

A lot of these I will regrow. I feel a lot better now these are in.

Since I am a bit shy of boys....Looks like the Jack will be the univeral male.

Do you believe this? The one thai male....I didn't need.... I went there last year.

Kush...no males....HB....no males....NYD....no males.

Guess who sucks wind? Me. :mad:

wha, wha, wha.....Now I know why thet gave up those seeds...too damn easy.

Still got that Jack male....Say hello to daddy. Not a bad cross. Kush x Jack,
HB x Jack, NYD x Jack, Jack x Jack, and both Jack x T/S and T/S x Jack...you know what I'm going to say...

I threw it all against the wall and that is what stuck. Not too shabby. I still have brand x to mess with, and 4 New York Power Diesel...who names this shit anyway?

Oh...we are getting all the permits worked out....Looks like 21 holes for long season. Do more with less.

But at least with this log... Finish line....It's out there. Things should start to happen quickly now....

[MimbresValley]

howzit, great thread bra, much enjoyed the read. mahalo``

[Weezard]

"Shit Weez...You got what? 100 lbs of dog total?

I got 700 lbs....Buy the way, was that fire started by you?"

Es no possible!
I was too busy being the underdog, yah?

Fire was da nex' day anyway.

On da mainland, we called July 5th "scrounging day"
Here, it's also Jan 1st.
We'd swipe some matches an glean for the un-burned n duds, all day.
Short fuses an smoke flavored fingers.
So, as usual, I blames da keikes ;)

An you no get da wind-suckin' trophy dis year.:)
Lot a dat fem-power in da air dis season fo' some reason.
Got 5 out of 6 so far.

'course I did whip out my 'scope an' checked da "naughty bits" in da seeds before planting.
Planted da ones wit da roundest 'oles.
Thought it might have some truth to it.:cool:

Until you posted your results, that is.

Now it's looking more like Lola gal might have something with her, timing is everything, lunacy :D

Nex' time I have way too many seeds, and enough room, I'm considering planting 2 a day for an entire month.
A 60 plant, side by side video journal.:stoned:

Nah, too much work!:(
Mo' betta someone who is not me does it.:rastasmoke:

Aloha,

Weeze

[oldhaole]

MV...mahalo back atcha.

Weez...gotta stop staring at those seeds looking for naughty parts...Plant them all and let (insert appropriate diety here) sort 'em all out.

The weather last week was cold. We never even got above 70 most of last week. This week a strong high sits over Alaska. This high pushes the jet stream down over the islands, and with the jet stream comes the rain. Later today the first of these storms move through. Later this week another stronger one take it's place.

Normal winter weather. After a couple years of drought, it feels good to return to normal. We had hail last Wensday.

Hail...This ain't right...This is Hawaii? .....WTF???

All my crosses have been made. Using both the Jack male and the T/S saved pollen. That's done. Also harvested topknot. With all the crap weather we have had it should have turned into a moldball. It didn't.

Once I have a couple of thousand seeds in the bag I can move along to the next job. The crosses are made, the rest is going to happen by itself. Nothing to do but wait and watch for fags.

Now it's time to prepare for the long season. Shovel jumping. Manual Labor.

Last year I had 4 groups of 7. Some areas did great. Like the gulch. I'm enlarging that. I'm going to stuff as many as I can fit in there. On the other hand the top did poorly. I'm going to shut that down. And in the bottom area, I am preparing it now.

As I harvest out the gulch, no more replanting empty holes. This has been a nice diversion, but long season is the prize.

I know....boring.....Sorry eh?

Pics..

1) gulch up
2) gulch down
3) topknot
4) topknot closer up
5) the jack girl

[oldhaole]

How are your plants?

Fuck if I know. Hope there still there. If it ever stops raining I will go check, But I'd bet they've taken a shelacking.

Welcome back Kona Storm. This one was a good one. Fifty mile an hour winds, a foot or two of rain....The town below me is called Kihei is under 4 ft of water. Power was out for most of yesterday. Part of the water line that serves this area is gone, all the gulches are roaring.

Just braved the rain and checked....They are still there!!!!. They are sideways.... But that can be fixed. The little gulch barely flowed, and the rock tiers I built ponded the water, then released it to the next tier.

The wind has stopped, but the storm has stalled right over us. As soon as the sun rises I'm going to hop in the car and see what happened last night.

Wow...just wow....stand next to a gulch and watch the boulders roll past.

[canniwhatsis]

DAYUM!!!!!!


That sucks, at least your girls are still there,.... My best spells/wishes that all goes well over the next few days! ;)

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh man that musta been one big rain man. But like Canni said ''there still there'' and you know they got a helluva root system going on under the them.

Just a thought, but when the Sun pops up the branch growth should just pick up and grow toward the Sun. So could ya just make sure the roots are covered enough to get them through budding or do you need to get them off the ground asap! I was just thinking of the purple plant i put in side ways and how each branch grew up to be all colas. It was ripped off so i only had a sample of it, oh well. But the thing looked great after watching the growth find the Sun and they were getting fat too.

But you da man bro:hippy:so im sure you know what to do. Great pic's man! I just luv seeing some of that part of the world as il never be able to see it in person:( But i can come here and live it through the killer thread man:D

My idea was only to try and save your ass the work, but like i said, you know what your doing there.

Thanks again for for the great info:thumbsup:

Keep er green man:weedpoke:


:rasta:

[oldhaole]

Remember....This is all bullshit.

We got more rain in the last two weeks than we had all of last year. The last two storms have left behind a total of sixteen inches....by my count... And the last one is at our doorstep.

Fuck me running....Just what we need....more rain....Yes.... That would help.

This one is not as strong as the last two storms. And less wind too. All the girls have been proped up. I broke the top off the biggest one in the process...so I fucked up....again. If the wind comes up again I can pull the props and let the plant fall over to go with the wind.

But, hopefully that won't be necessary.

Anyway....we were thinking last year....what would happen.... If we were to take a couple of pounds of seeds....That's right .....pounds....and dump them in a flowing gulch.

At the time we neither had the seeds, or the flowing gulch.

Guess what? Remember my partner? The one with the seeded long season last year? Like 8 million seeds?

Now we do....:D....and we did....:D

Yep....We just Johnny Appleseeded all of Kihei.... Bombs away....:D....Perfect timing, see the water, it flows rarely. Those gulches are dry. Once it falls off the hill, It flood plains, Spreads out, Drops seeds and dirt...all throughout wherever it lands.

Do you think ...for one second....that we will go chase the gulch later and see what happened??? Hell no....Well....maybe....Hhhhmmmmm....

I don't think so. I have a feeling we just caused a giant Green Harvest problem. This will be messy. More better I start the ball rolling and bail...

Asshole...Yep....that's me....:D

But... If one in five hunderd of the hundred thousand seeds or so, we dumped sprouts....thats two hundred plants...who knows what will happen? Where will they pop up? Maybe they got into the sea? Maybe they will pop up on S Kihei Rd. If they do you know where they came from...ME. Yep... There will be a gulch full of weed....somewhere on the slopes above Kihei

Who cares?.... We just wanted to give them a shot....Dust in the wind. If green harvest finds them??? Fuck 'em....get to work...Sweat you bastards....you got a shitload of wild weed to pull...

Who knows?....Who cares???

See? This is what happens when we have too much free time.... This is all bullshit anyways. We would NEVER do that.... Hell yes...we would. In a heartbeat....

What do you think? Do you think I would dump a whole shitload of seeds into a wet flowing gulch....just to see what happens???...NOOOooo..

[canniwhatsis]

:S2::lol5:

[oldhaole]

Tick tock Tick tock. I smell D day comming up. Been shovel jumping, Getting ready for regrows.

Damn....Has it been a year already? How time flies when you are having fun. The short season girls are well into bud. They should make it to six feet. I have repaired the storm damage, and they are running on their own now. All I want is now to get them out of here so I can clear the holes and start long season already.

The rain has left, headed south. We have a good strech of nice weather so no mold problems yet.

Sorry... this is a dry one. But there should be a harvest soon, so all is not done yet.

Now a few pics...

1) The universal mom... T/S
2) The gulch looking down.
3) The gulch lower part
4) The Jack mom
5) Bottom holes cleared out and ready for dirt drop.

[oldhaole]

For those of you following this log, you will remember aways back, I mentioned leaving the plants in small pots, not transplanting them, and get 2 ft plants just for crossing purposes.

Well I did, and it worked. I started with some Kush, Diesel, and Hash Buds girls. Not a boy in the bunch. As a rule these are short plants, and the seeds were all indoor acclimated. I have crossed them with Jack, Batch 3, and Brand X males. The Jack and 3 are full Sativa. Let's see....

I will have...sorry this will take a while...about 20 crosses when I'm done here. Maybe a few more. I don't know.

So now I have seeds comming out of my ears. Some promising crosses....Lots of ways to go.

Now we are cooking....Shit....this worked....Amazing.

And my timing is perfect...pardon me while I pat myself on the back....:D

Pics

1) HB and Kush moms
2) Daddys left is Jack Middle is Brand X and Batch 3
3) Diesel moms

You know what today is? Regrow season is now open. Anything from this point on planted here now has a good shot of regrowing.

[LetsSeeYa]

For those of you following this log, you will remember aways back, I mentioned leaving the plants in small pots, not transplanting them, and get 2 ft plants just for crossing purposes.

Well I did, and it worked. I started with some Kush, Diesel, and Hash Buds girls. Not a boy in the bunch. As a rule these are short plants, and the seeds were all indoor acclimated. I have crossed them with Jack, Batch 3, and Brand X males. The Jack and 3 are full Sativa. Let's see....

I will have...sorry this will take a while...about 20 crosses when I'm done here. Maybe a few more. I don't know.

So now I have seeds comming out of my ears. Some promising crosses....Lots of ways to go.

Now we are cooking....Shit....this worked....Amazing.

And my timing is perfect...pardon me while I pat myself on the back....:D

Pics

1) HB and Kush moms
2) Daddys left is Jack Middle is Brand X and Batch 3
3) Diesel moms

You know what today is? Regrow season is now open. Anything from this point on planted here now has a good shot of regrowing.

I cant wait for the re vegs bro:thumbsup:



:rasta:

[Horsemanrocks]

Guess I'll follow along for a while.

HMR

[oldhaole]

How's that for tempting fate?

At least so far....This log is close to done. I give it two more months max.

We are to the point where this log starts to bleed into Part 3. This is this, and that is that, and never the two shall meet. But in fact this seed run sets me up for long season.

This was just what I needed. I wanted to go in a different direction for nex....shit. see? It's bleeding already.

Anyway....To recap, I took males from my T/S, the Jack, Batch 3, and Brand X, and crossed them with female T/S. Jack, Batch 3, Kush, Hash Bud, Diesel and Brand X.

Over the last month I have been watching everything develop. I'm running on Autopilot now. I can make some decisions off of what my girls are telling me.

For instance, I'm going to scrap the T/S line. It's too fluffy. and has a few sterile nanners.

Batch 3 looks to be a winner. It goes big, with wide branches, a wonderful smell, and the bud compounds and fattens up quick. This is allegedly one of my old strains I lost many years ago, but don't tell anybody...for the life of me I can't remember it. :wtf:

My wild card is the Brand X. It has lavender hairs, and though early in the show. It looks good. I would have liked to get ahold of this earlier, I'm not proud of the little plants, but I kept them small and managed to cross the females with itself, and the males were crossed with everything else. So I can kick that can down the road and mess with it later.

And the Jack is a wet dream.... You can see my drool spots all around her. I've just started taking seeds of of her. I will lose yield, but quality will be top notch. This will go lon....damn it! Bleed some more you idiot...

That's it! Piss me off for the last time...Fuck it all.

Let's get this road on the show....I'm so ready for Part 3.

I need to get this puppy moving. Wheel that fat broad out here to sing already.

Here is a bit of Bud Porn

Pic 1) Jack girl....don't step in the wet spots.
Pic 2) Batch 3. Flower tips are compounding.
Pic 3) More Batch 3. two different phenotypes.
Pic 4) A kush girl. Notice the height difference. And yes, that is prototype guard cat at work....it just looks like he is sleeping.
Pic 5) Again not proud of this. Brand X girl.

[canniwhatsis]

Pic 4) A kush girl. Notice the height difference. And yes, that is prototype guard cat at work....it just looks like he is sleeping.

I've seen my cat look like that,..... right after he was done chewing on my Re-vege!!!!!! :eek:



Glad your still around, looking forward to the long season! :S5:

[oldhaole]

Hey Canni. My cat does the same, But it's small and eats very little.

Remember that rat problem aways back? Fixed now thanks to guard cat. Even the big boys in the attic. Put him up there for a while, no more rats. Neat the way that works. No more cages needed for sprouts...:thumbsup:

I thought the dogs would have stretched him by now. I'm a dog person, but I gotta admit...guard cat (AKA Twitch)...is pretty damn cool. I guess I now own a cat. Or it own me...whatever. :wtf:

Now if I could only get the damn dogs to stop using the gulch as their own private toilet. Early morning, cup of coffee in hand, wander down, check the girls, all happy, and HIT A STEAMER!!!

I think it is a conspiracy. They get together in the morning and decide which plant to drop land mines around.

"That one's nice, dump there, there,....no left a couple of feet... there...good". "Now a quick spray here, and here, and our work is done."

Oh well...I digress...back to our regularly scheduled broadcast...

[Weezard]

:jawdropper:I can see by that first photo the you do indeed know Jack!:thumbsup:

Impressive!:cool:
Weeze

[MimbresValley]

looking primo supremo

[malus69]

Looking great brother, especially Jackie girl! :D I wish I could grow outdoors too, don't trust mi neigh boors though... :wtf:

Subbed!
:thumbsup:

[oldhaole]

This post ain't going to make me any new friends....

While many of you dig yourselves out of the snow, and freeze your kiesters off, I'm going fishing for a couple of days. Should make it back in time for the big game.

I came close to taking Jack, but I came to my senses and left her. T/S and a Batch 2 girl were not so lucky...They are out of here. Both were decent weed, but way too loose and fluffy. Both of these strains were 86ed. I may mess more with the T/S, later, but neither of them make the grade for houseplants.

The T/S finished purple. Never saw that from any of the others of that strain. Who knows, maybe a distant relative from long ago made an appearance?

Of the 6 Batch 3 girls, 4 of them are almost identical. The other two...not so much. As the days get longer, most plants will try to elongate. Not these, the compound tips stop this dead in it's tracks.

Also found a Kush .... ok I won't call it a fag. Not very PC. A kush hermi, right next to Jack. No damage done, I caught it in time.

So three down, eighteen left to go. Many of those are on the top, so they are not in the way of long season.

Topknot is dried, and my patient dug a few hundred seeds out of her. Just tasted her tonight. Pretty good. She likes it and wants it in her line-up. But she has yet to meet Jack.

Now budporn becomes easier to find.

1) Plant taken today. Batch 2
2) Batch 3. One of three different variations.
3) Two little Kush girls.
4) An Oz or two....by eye, scale is busted....maybe less. Shit...I'm running low.

[oldhaole]

And of course you poor bastards on the mainland will soon be freezing, so I will put some fluff shots so you can see what you are missing.

Aloha OH

Sorry, but I warned you.

I'd like to lie to you and tell you I got all of these...but it would so not be true. I went 0 for 3. But my buddy took pity on me and gave me half of the Mu'u. Also a Tiger Shark, and a small Uku are pictured below.

All in all though, not a bad way to spend a blustery winter day. While I am watching the game I have sashimi too. Not too shabby. Can't get anything fresher. Fish was looking for dinner last night...It is dinner tonight.

While I was gone, wife of my youth told me we had a couple of hours of rain yesterday afternoon. And it looks like we will get some more today. The Jack is ready, but I want to see if it what it can take, so she lives for a while longer. No signs of Rot or Mold...yet.

So this one, and the last one are little gloat posts. Feel free to ignore them.

The seed crop is yielding a few each day. Another few weeks until done. The toughest part is keeping them all seperate.

Pics...1) A typical winter day...now we get to walk down the hill.
2) Tiger Shark
3) Dinner....Left is Mu'u, Right is Uku.
4) Diesel moms
5) Kush moms

[jaydee84]

oldhaole - cool pics:thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

NICE!!!!


I know I know, it sux to be you ;)


Personally I can't stand your situation,... beautiful weather,... awesome plants..... I f'n hate you! :rastasmoke:


My front yard has about 3" of snow right now, but I love this shit! :D No good for growing, but damned fun stuff otherwise!

OH if you ever hit up Colorado during the winter months give me a ring! the skiing is awesome!

And if flying down a mountain on boards isn't your thing, I'm sure I can hook up some sleds! ;)

[Shovelhandle]

Very good log, haole.
:thumbsup:

We've gotten 18" earlier this week and 12"+ last night. The yard is all plowed, snow banks all around. Some are 8' high, twice as deep and hard a concrete. At least I don't worry about all that warm weather and sweating all over myself. :wtf:

[oldhaole]

Canni...One year of my life was enough. Unless that money pit I own in Ridgway burns to the ground....one can hope.... Colorado and I do not do well together in Winter. Thanks for the offer, but I gotta pass. I may be there this summer though.

On the other hand. If you ever make it over here, let me know. It's good to have friends in warm places.

Anyway...As you can see this log is winding down. In other words...now we get to the fun part.

Nature was kind enough to stress test the girls. Three days of rain, no sun, extreme humidity, and generaly crap weather. I ignored them for those three days. Check your girls every day, you don't see the progress.

Give them three days...and wow.

Here...see for yourself.

Pic 1) Purple Kush
Pic 2) Batch 3. I have high hopes for this one.
Pic 3) Batch 4. Another Kush.
Pic 4) Batch 2. Reject
Pic 5) Jack

[malus69]

They all look awesome buddy but Jackie girl is still my favourite!!! Can't wait to see your end results. And can't wait to go back home later this year so I can start my first outdoors grow too next season! Indoors is nice and interesting and all and most probably I will continue doing it mostly to experiment on various crazy ideas I have in my head lol, but nothing imho will ever beat mother nature and a good organically grown outdoor dope! You sir are blessed! Keep us posted!

Peace,
:hippy:

[oldhaole]

A agree with you. Jack at this moment does look like the best.

Remember, I still have my money on batch 3. Jack has a few weeks on them.

I have Jack's bottom branches seeded. I should be able to see the seeds, I know they are there, but the brachs just keep comming. This weed (the unseeded parts) will weigh a ton. It doesn't matter now, all of her will go to personal stash. It may mater later, though.

Outdoors vs Indoors....you all know where I stand on that. A fairly smart monkey can grow outdoors. Indoors you work for it. You pull a good crop indoors, you are the better grower, no question.

I just stack the crap out of the deck by being able to grow outside in Hawaii....put bluntly...I cheat. I'm 1000 miles south. My bad...:D

Never stop experimenting. Learn somthing new. Build off each year. I looked at your log, and have to say it is a detailed, impressive piece of work. Those ideas in your head, one or more of them will be winners.

Mahalo.

[malus69]

Thanks for the heads up Oldhaole and the feedback on my log. Cheating or not outdoors growing is nice. I can grow freely where I leave too no worries on that! I just love big plants and the unrestricted space that you can grow in without having to think if they get too tall or too wide and wont fit in your grow room lol :p
I just FIMed a couple of mine and not all cause first of all it's the first time and didn't want to screw em all and also cause I'm not sure if they start growing all bushy and wide and end up not fitting in my grow space. Height is not an issue with me as with most indoor growers but it seems like area can be :(

And as I said I will never stop growing indoors and experimenting, I love the challenge. If any of my ideas work out in the future you'll be of the first to know! Will be sharing my journey with you guys anyway. So far it hasn't even started for good and it's already been a hell of a time!

Mahalo brother,
:hippy:

[oldhaole]

It had to happen sooner or later. This be winter. A wet one.

Jack is done. It took six days of shit weather start the mold. Stress test over.
The Kush was the one that rotted the most. Jack handled pretty damn good.
It's done and hanging. Stupid would be to let it mold. Damn it....

Yesterday it pounded. Today it pounded. Back end of a small front made a home over us and kicked the shit out of here. And it looks like most of this upcomming week will be more of the same. A decent front is right behind this one. Fuckin' jet stream dipped again. I expect another week of rain....crap.

One the good side this may just make it worth it to chase the gulch we free planted. It needed rain...it got it. Big Time. LSY...you may get your wish.

Canni...see what happens when I gloat? Smile...get kicked in the teeth. :D
One day I will learn to keep my trap shut...not today though...or tomorrow.

Seeds are in... thank god for that. Another week of rain and I will have seeds germinating in the buds.

Oh well. Hope I am wrong. Another week of rain will kill me. That will be game over. Mold city. Batch 3 become iffy. I have been known to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat before....one more time please...long shot though.

But then again....clear the holes and we go right to part 3.

In a week I will know which direction to go. In 2006 we had 40 days of rain.
In a row. This is beginning to look like that.

Outdoors is easy? Only if I get to control the weather. Not in this lifetime.

[malus69]

In a week I will know which direction to go. In 2006 we had 40 days of rain.
In a row. This is beginning to look like that.

Outdoors is easy? Only if I get to control the weather. Not in this lifetime.

Sorry to hear that bro. It sucks when shit like that happens. And you said outdoors is easy anyway... :( What about throwing some polythene or however that plastic sheets are called they use in greenhouses over the plants? Either cover them or just dip four poles in the soil around them and attach it on top like a tent kind of thingie? Hope my english made sense lol. I guess you get my point more or less anyway. ;) Won't fight the humidity, but at least it should keep the rain away and the plants more or less dry? Or maybe I'm just talking crap dunno... :wtf: It's just a shame to let em rot at this stage, we should come up with some idea to save the girls!!! :mad: Good luck with this and keep us posted. Hope all goes well at the end. At least save Jackie!!!

Mahalo brother,
:hippy:

[oldhaole]

Oh well.... You know what they say....Shit happens.

Jack is in the bag. I could have taken her a week ago, but I wanted to see how it does against our humidity. Six days of rain to rot. I know that she can take that. First time growing Jack, this is stuff I need to know. And is much easier to learn this stuff now on little plants, than later on big ones.

Most...not all of my seeds are in. That's the important part.

Shit...look at the bright side. If we went back a few years, before I was legal I'd have 500 in. Then we are talking about disaster. This is merely annoying.

I've had potted weed plants, that I hauled in before every rain...and they still molded. There's humid....then there's Upcounty humid....has to do with all that damn water around us. And where we sit on the lee of this volcano.

Gotta say it is kinda funny...in a piss you off kinda way.

Just when I start to get cocky....Slapped back down. Perfection is a dream for me...never a reality. Get used to it. There is still that perfect season out there. One day....

Mea culpa, Mea culpa, Mea maximus culpa.

[Weezard]

How quickly we forget.:)

Last season was near perfect, yah?
So?
You want two inna row?

And unless I miss my bet, we learn stuff from 'trial by wet .
Fer instance.
How did the "Brand X" babes fare?

Gotta admit, I did not afford them the respect they deserved at first.
Though I reasoned that nobody's gonna plant a strain for 27 years if it's not superior.

It's one of the original polyploid strains from the late '60s that I find to be stronger than my $10 "designer seeds".
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I give it an A+ for taste and potency!:thumbsup:

Grows much mo' betta here than it does in Ca.

If it handles our kine wetness, we may have found da grail!

All quiet on da eastern front.:cool:

Aloha nui

Weeze

[Horsemanrocks]

Iâ??d re-name that Brand X. Howâ??s about Rodney Dangerfieldâ?¦.canâ??t seem to catch no respect!

Rocks.

[Weezard]

Iâ??d re-name that Brand X. Howâ??s about Rodney Dangerfieldâ?¦.canâ??t seem to catch no respect!

Rocks.

:)
Oh, now, I wouldn't say dat!



It now has [attachment=o265757] s respect and admiration.:lovestruck:


I t'ink our host will be very pleased with it too!:jointsmile:

He's got a lot of bio-assay on his plate right now, but when he gets around to the Fiddies, yeeha!
Pollen will get chucked an' we all win.:cool:

Ya did a real good t'ing dere, Horseguy.:giveflower:
I could not be happier wit' dis strain.:dance:
Now, I'm gonna start :weedpoke: around on a piece of ground in my home town.

Have done one cross with Lavender BB/Sativa mom, and just started da baby beans today
Gotta few more Xs rollin 'roun' in my bucket list as well.
Lettuce C vut ve shell C

Claimer:

No data here was forged or faked.
It's jus' one hit to fully baked!:stoned::S5:

Aloha,
St. Wingnut the blazed:D

[oldhaole]

OK...yes you have a point.

I had hoped it would not come to this....excuses and reasons time. :(

Brand X came to me after I had some good canadates to mess with. I already had the house grossly overloaded. For a while I thought I would just shove them in the cane. But your talking three patches. That's some work for a small payoff. Not to mention, a rip could end this line in one crack.

So I made a decision to keep these small, seed them and cross them. That's where we are now. Right now I am just starting to collect the seeds off them.
So far no rot, but they have yet to bulk up to where they rot easily.

I promise you... I have plans for Brand X. It also doesn't hurt to have a few hundred seeds either.

I'm jammed up right now with the season switch, and I havn't had a chance to really get to know Brand X. Also I am not even going to try to regrow these. I don't know enough....yet.

I quote myself in an earlier post....

My wild card is the Brand X. It has lavender hairs, and though early in the show. It looks good. I would have liked to get ahold of this earlier, I'm not proud of the little plants, but I kept them small and managed to cross the females with itself, and the males were crossed with everything else. So I can kick that can down the road and mess with it later.

Yea... That does sound like me describing Rodney. My big mistake. Very sorry.
But that was my deficency...not the plants.

Remember Brand X came to me last. Logical progression is it will be in the last part of this log. Besides I am an attention whore, big plants give a small wow factor. Small seeded plants...ya get nothing.

I do owe you an apology. I should have put a couple in big pots, just to give this a taste. But I have eyes...and a nose....and that's why I call it my wild card. No insult was intended. It was just the way the dance card got filled out.

And it seems weez's has white hairs....mine are all lavender.

So let me beg for a little bit longer. I promise to road test this puppy hard, as soon as I can. And it would be a good bet that this goes into the top drawer.

Later

OH

[Horsemanrocks]

I must admit to a very dry sense of humorâ?¦..now Weeze knows me well enough that I can say just about anything to him just for a laugh. I thought that the Rodney Dangerfield of weed to be amusingâ?¦..absolutely no animosity intended.
I come from a small town where â??not talking to youâ?� means Iâ??m pissedâ?¦..But â??hey assholeâ?� means I still love you.
If Iâ??d had anything rude to say to you Iâ??d have e-mailed youâ?¦.I wouldnâ??t have done it in a public forum.

As far as the seedâ?¦..my family taught me that a gift is a giftâ?¦.100% yours to manageâ?¦.nunmy bidness. Weeze has enjoyed themâ?¦.my hope is that you will as well.

Weeze sends me a picture and says lavender pistilsâ?¦.but I see them as white as well. Iâ??m pretty sure that heâ??s got some problems that heâ??s not admitting to though.

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Iâ??m enjoying watching the two of you grow â??Rodneyâ??sâ?� in Hawaii. The temperature here last night was below freezing with the humidity about 15%. You complain about rain, humidity, and powdery mildewâ?¦..I complain about all the hand lotion that I have to use to minimize the cracking in my hands.

I too showed Rodney little respectâ?¦.But Iâ??m putting a lot of energy this winter to improving the location for better lightâ?¦.I wonâ??t end up with an â??equatorialâ?� growâ?¦but Iâ??m not willing to take the risk of a very well lit guerilla grow.

No worries hereâ?¦..and I am still looking forward to a round of golf somedayâ?¦â?¦yaâ?? asshole.

Un otro coulo.

[Weezard]

"And it seems weez's has white hairs....mine are all lavender."

Bet high school was rough. :D


Actually, the "old seed" gal had a pale lavender tint at the 3rd week. Which then faded out.
Same with the next gen seeds.

A pale, dusky, tint, is all I've seen so far.
Could be lack of UV. Been filtering it out.
[attachment=o265832]
Filters out the rain too.:cool:

Just popped 2 more next gen. X gen. for Valentines day.
And I have moved "Nani Fiddie" into the sun for her terminal tan.
At day 34;
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Got more snaps, but no wanna clutter your thread.
Plan to start a grow log for the next brand-X grow soon as dey pop.

A video diary of forbidden love.
Steamy, dank, crazy-monkey-kine, love.

An' no worry, we understood da situation O.H., we was jus' pokin' atcha a little. ;)

Think of it as mo' attention. :)
He'ps wit' da happy ending, yah?:D

Aloha Brother

Da Weeze who wanks at weeds.

[Weezard]

Aloha Otro,;)

Mus' be one of your pics, I no gotta wooden fence.

"I complain about all the hand lotion that I have to use to minimize the cracking in my hands. ":yeahright:
Cracking in your hands:lol5::S2:

Come out a da cabinet an' jus' admit to your budporn fetish.
We all know that your a card, (and kleenex),-carrying BILTF member.:D
Prolly got pistillate palms an' a trichomonal moustache, yah?

Warts and all brah, warts and all!:1baa:

Aloha,
Wee 'zard

[Lynhal]

Aloha Otro,;)

Mus' be one of your pics, I no gotta wooden fence.

"I complain about all the hand lotion that I have to use to minimize the cracking in my hands. ":yeahright:
Cracking in your hands:lol5::S2:

Come out a da cabinet an' jus' admit to your budporn fetish.
We all know that your a card, (and kleenex),-carrying BILTF member.:D
Prolly got pistillate palms an' a trichomonal moustache, yah?

Warts and all brah, warts and all!:1baa:

Aloha,
Wee 'zard

:S2: You seriously crack me up, Weez. Feel blessed to know of you.

[bigsby]

Iâ??m enjoying watching the two of you grow â??Rodneyâ??sâ?� in Hawaii. I too showed Rodney little respectâ?¦.

Where do I get this Rodney Danderfield seed? I want in!

[StickyBuds1987]

Ah oldhaole, its been a while since i visited your thread looks like your still at it and growing those beautiful ladies nice grow log good job keep it up.

As for me im getting ready for my 2nd go around, last year was my trial run and it went about like any other newbs first outdoor grow. Not so good but i did end up with a few grams and learned from it so i plan on having a better year this time is mother nature permits it.

[canniwhatsis]

Where do I get this Rodney Danderfield seed? I want in!

Sounds like HMR is the origin of the "X" strain AKA Rodney! :jointsmile:

Looks like the strain has been named! :D




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[oldhaole]

This ain't an easy post....How do you explain failure?

2006 all over again. I can smell it. It's the reek of failure. As soon as the sun comes up today....I'll take almost everything....salvage some smoke out of this clusterfuck.

Want to see my death warrants? By my guest;

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Yesterday I screwed up. The morning started sunny. I thought I had too noon before the cloudbank moved in. Enough time to do my trips and get back in time to take. Wrong... By 10 it was pouring. It didn't stop until 3 AM.

Everthing has mold. Everything.

The only bright spot...got most of my seeds in. And Jack too.

But this is going to change everything....a wet year. If I had any brains at all I must accept this, change gears and plant accordindly. I should cut my patients loose, maybe they can find another grower....the house has a good chance if failure this year.

So today is my day to be a dick....better tell the wife to clear out. I am not going to be any fun as I take molded weed....and realize what could have been.

Now I need some light so I can proudly show off how badly I screwed up Might as well do this now.

[oldhaole]

OK... Where the hell were we?

Want to know how to get the rain to stop? Go harvest half your crop. Rain stops.... Hi sun... Where the hell you been? A LITTLE LATE HUH?

We had a nice little thread going....and I stepped on it.

Rodney came through...not untouched...a couple molded. A little WPM. But compared to the other moms...way better.

I'm not proud of this. The only thing I wanted was a taste, and the seeds.
And I got'em. So here they are.

Weez... Feel free to post anything here you want to. Your a class act.

Horseman... I feel bad...but I'll get over it. We just tried one of the mini Rodneys....It's damn good. Even got a "Whered chu get dis from?" from my partner. You're still going to give me those 4 ft gimmies huh? No? Asshole.

Big....I can help you with that.

Sticky...nice to see ya back. Where ya been?

Canni....nothing gets by you. Naming?... not my place to do....but I didn't...:D

Hi lyn

Notice I'm in a way better mood? Everything I took has been trimmed. Saved quite a bit. so it wasn't a total loss. Lost about half a lb. Got about that. Beats losing it all.

And the market...that was flooded...is drying up. And hyphatheticly (sp) of course...if you had ....say 15 lbs left over from long season....saved up....you're now driving the bus. Nothing make me happier than telling people that want to make a buck off of me..."sorry, I can't do that...at that price."

First couple of pics are how I fucked Rodney up.
last one is how the mold fucked me up.

[Weezard]

"The only thing I wanted was a taste, and the seeds.
And I got'em. So here they are."

Dat's da spirit!
Nex' time, wish fo' what you really want, yah?:D

Had me worried fo' a bit.
Was actually organizin' a care package for ya.
:S1:as I am, of late.

No worry! if you evah really run out, you have friends.:)
What evah it takes, my brother.

Aino fergets.

Weeze

[malus69]

Glad you managed to salvage what you could brother, and good thing the sun is back even a little late... Nasty mould on that last pic, little ones look nice though! Keep on growing, next one will be better for sure. As will hopefully be mine (yeah it doesn't look good as it is, some shit I can't identify out of nowhere), I learned a few thing more and next one will be better organized. (still trying to squeeze $ out of my wallet to get more equipment :()
Let me know how Jackie girl ended up being when you sample her!!! :jointsmile:

Peace,
:hippy:

[oldhaole]

I'll scrape by. Thanks much for thinking of me. I just should NOT post in the AM. I made a big mistake and was pissed at myself.

AND I counted my chickens...early...error. Worse yet, I was starting to get cocky....I needed to get slapped down or I would rapidly become unsufferable

Oh sorry....I'm there already.

It freaks me out sometimes how fast this can take a left turn directly into downtown Shitville. Then the rain stops...and Shitville ends.

Mal....Jack yielded 4 good ozs and one I left one molded oz in the trash. Considering it took a week of rain, which washed off a lot of crystals, It came out good.

As for your grow I saw the pic of the damaged leaf. That is no big deal...I think.

The strain that molded the most had to be the Kush, followed close second by the tops of Batch 3.

[StickyBuds1987]

Ah well i have just been really busy not much free time, but now things are slowing down so i got some time on my hands for myself.

Sorry to hear about your mold probs man, it seems when you do not want rain you get more than enough then when you want some you will not see a drop, guess thats just life gotta take it with a grain of salt.

[malus69]

I'll scrape by. Thanks much for thinking of me. I just should NOT post in the AM. I made a big mistake and was pissed at myself.

AND I counted my chickens...early...error. Worse yet, I was starting to get cocky....I needed to get slapped down or I would rapidly become unsufferable

Oh sorry....I'm there already.

It freaks me out sometimes how fast this can take a left turn directly into downtown Shitville. Then the rain stops...and Shitville ends.

Mal....Jack yielded 4 good ozs and one I left one molded oz in the trash. Considering it took a week of rain, which washed off a lot of crystals, It came out good.

As for your grow I saw the pic of the damaged leaf. That is no big deal...I think.

The strain that molded the most had to be the Kush, followed close second by the tops of Batch 3.

It sucks big time I can understand that brother, but shit happens all the time trust me I know that very very well. Just try to channel the frustration into energy and use that to achieve your goals. Stay angry but focused and nail your next grow. And don't worry about getting cocky, we all do and it's one of the things that make us human. (not trying to sound like an expert here, just someone with shitloads of bad luck in many aspects :()
Jackie did well despite the week long watery torture and 4oz is always better than no oz :thumbsup:

Peace,
:hippy:

[franklg]

As a sucessful long season winds down, I notice a problem. I have 28 legal holes and there almost EMPTY! Shit. Well not for long. :D

We can fix this....but I need a goal. Long season was good to me, but I can do better. I could slam a bunch of seeds in the dirt and choke myself out on 90 day wonders. It would be easy to do, but yield would be...minor. :(

I have a light room. It is seldom used. Here's the plan. This grow will start hybred, 12 hours sunlight, 12 hrs CFL's. That way I can get my starts a bit of size, 3 ft or more, before dumping them into their holes. Once in dirt they will jump and bud. Maybe get some 5 footers.

In theory this will work. The whammy will be the weather. La Nina dominates the Central Pacific this year. That means we will be wetter than normal. The land needs rain, as we are still in a 2 year drought now. But the girls don't.

Today I am busting my seeds I crossed from last long season. My goal is to cross the Cali girls with my big yield Sativas. Also those first generation Cali seeds need to adjust to our climate and photo-period. I will also cross the Cali girls with themselves, Then back cross them over Jan - April short season. Maybe I can get them all over 8 ft on long season next year. Also I have new blood comming from the mainland too.

OK. Here's the rules. Questions, comments are always welcome. If you want to call me a pompus asshole thats ok (wife does daily). I would like to stick to this grow. If you have questions or comments about part one, put them there. I'm not done part one yet, and will jump back and forth until long season is done and gone.

Short Season in Hawaii is a quick trip. Three months. It is a time to mess around with the herb and not do any long term damage. Screw ups can be forgotten and if I cross a winner it can easily be put into long season's line up. Blink and you may miss it. And of course you poor bastards on the mainland will soon be freezing, so I will put some fluff shots so you can see what you are missing.

Aloha OH

What island are you on,I will be moveing in the end ot oct to kona i have med card in CAIF I know i have to get a med card in HI.i will be looking for caregiver