Plz help me, dont know whats wrong ( 1st timer)

[Eln0mbre]

Hey, im a first time grower, anyone know what i did wrong here ?
<a href="http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/?action=view&current=230910.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/230910.jpg" border="0" alt="11pm :)"></a>
<a href="http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/?action=view&current=DSC00035.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/DSC00035.jpg" border="0" alt="next day at 08am :("></a>
it seems to be doing a little recovery now, but its far what it used to look :(

[Eln0mbre]

sry i didnt get the picture to work, here are some links :rastasmoke:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/230910.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/DSC00035.jpg

[sum1cull911]

I'm a first time grower too, and I grow in hydro.... but that looks like overwatering. Without knowing anything about your grow, nutes, lights, ect.. Maybe one of the senior members will confirm or bust that theory? Do you foliage feed? What is the brown water all over the leaves?

[Eln0mbre]

Overwatering can be possible, i think i gave it a bit to much last night. I have added some bio product to my water to get the right ph :) that is the brown shit u see:) But im a noob so i dont know what i do, will it recover?
This is a better pic of what i used tolook like http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/El_n0mbre/220910.jpg

[Eln0mbre]

I use a lamp that is usualy an outdoor lamp to light up an entire church. Its the strongest lamp iv`e ever seen :thumbsup:

[sum1cull911]

I don't have problems with overwatering because I use hyrdo, so I'm not quite sure how to fix it. My educated guess would be not to water it for a while until the soil seems, well, not so wet. lol. Your plant is young, but I think it should recover. Plus, unless you foliage feed, I don't think you should pour the water directly on the plant. Not only is this true during veg. phase, but especially flowering, because it will encourage mold. I hope your not using nutrients yet, your plant only looks to be about a week old or so.

[Eln0mbre]

Thanks for replying, yes my plant is 8 days old on the last picture.
And i have little or no idea on how i do this, so i now know that i should not water the plant, just the soil :P thks :jointsmile:

[Rusty Trichome]

Specifically...what kind of light, and how many watts? Is it an HPS, a metal halide, a mercury vapor, oil-n-wick...?

Cannabis in soil demands a wet-dry cycle. If it's not pretty friggin dry, don't water it. You will encourage nutrient lockout, you suffocate the roots, and root rot will develop. This is fatal. A pot that size might need watering once a day in the summer, perhaps once every two or three days in the winter...depending on growroom conditions. (for examole)

Feed per directions once plant is mature enough to use whichever nutrients you'll use. Usually start half-doses at about 3 or 4 internodes. 6 or 7 internodes if using Miracle grow or other pre-fertilized soil mix.

Keep a (circulating) fan on it at all times, or at least while lights are on. Strengthens the stems and branches, and allows the soil to properly dry between waterings and feedings.

Start reading some grow logs where the gardener is doing the same techniques. (indoors, in soil, same lighting...) and try to get a solid idea of what's going on. This is a learning process full of trial and error, but if you can cut-through the wives tales, misinformation and miracle 'snake oils' you are half way there. Keep it simple, but learn the basics.

[Eln0mbre]

thx, i will read up some more, my only problem is remembering what iv`e read :rasta:
I dont know what kind of light i use, but a link to the Light Bulb i use GE LU400 - 400 Watt Lucalox® High Pressure Sodium - Clear :: HID Bulbs (Lamps) :: ·Light Bulbs :: Galesburg Electric Lighting (http://www.galesburgelectriclighting.com/GE-LU400-400-Watt-Lucalox-High-Pressure-Sodium-Clear-p-4282.html)

[Eln0mbre]

but is there a chance of recovery, or do i have to start all over again?

[Rusty Trichome]

Your light is fine. I was just making sure it wasn't an old mercury vapor light, which put-out more heat than usable lumens.

Assassinating your plants now is up to you. But I always recommend one take their plants as far as possible, since success and failure can both be a learning experience, and if they're still alive, they may pull through and be the best thing you've ever smoked.

It'll be up to you to find a happy balance of waterings and feedings though. Every growroom is different, as are the strains, the tapwater, the nutrients, additives, lights/distances/lumens, heat/cold/humidity...but as you read through the growlogs, you will start to see what other's are doing, when they are doing it and why they are doing it. Find a successful growlog, and ask questions if confused.

Try to keep it simple though. Don't go out and buy hundreds of dollars worth of additives, until you learn how to use the basics. Usually you'll find the additives are 'snake oil' crap anyway.

[Eln0mbre]

OK, i tried to fill out as good as possible :P

What is your experience level? (novice )

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (HPS 400w )
.2) Distance from tops? (15 iches or they burn)
.3) Reflector type? (enclosed reflector )
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? (yes )
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? no, window and door open at all times)
.6) What are the bulb wattages ( 400w, Color Temperature-K: 2100)
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (normal plant soil, havent added anything yet)
.8) Size of container. ( 8cm*8cm*7cm)
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? ( no)

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap water, ph 5.5)
11) Method of checking water ph. (test strips )
12) Method of adjusting water ph. ( bio bact, one teaspoon per 1l)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? (i dont know, i spray with a bottle till i see the soil i wet)
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? ( stable)
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? ( dunno)
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? ( indoor)
20) What size of closet, room or hut? (room is 3x3 meters)
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? around 30 celsius light on, and 20 celsius light off)
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? ( no)

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? ( dont know, got some seeds from a `friend`)
24) From seeds or clones? ( seeds)
25) Is this an autoflower strain? (dont know)

[Rusty Trichome]

Isn't BioBact a fertilizer? If so, it's a bad idea to use it to adjust ph.

You'll want an ingoing ph of between 6.3ish and 6.8ish for a peat based medium. (potting soil) Shoot for the higher end, as nutrients will usually bring the ph down further. I aim for 6.8 ph in my garden. Above or below the recommended range, and it will lock-out nutrients.

Any test method with a color-coded result (strips, aquarium test kits...) can not be used to test water with nutrients or runoff tinting, as the colors in the stuff will skew the color-coded results. They only work with clear water.

You spray the soil...? Why? If the soil needs watering, then for God's sake water 'em. A little spray on top is ineffective. (lower root zone needs hydration too)