Closet-Ponics

[drudown11]

Alright so this is my second hydro grow, ive grown with DWC before and I feel that im ready to really dip into olther hydroponic methods.

I started my clones in rockwoll cubes and then transplanted them into bigger cubes upon rooting. I made a batch of nutrient solution. (5.5 PH and at 190 PPM) that included "Great White:, Big bloom, and grow big. Its a pretty weak mix but I have seen no signs of over fertalization. I made a drip irrigation system with a cheap water pump and five gallon bucket. They get water 6 times a day, in 2 minute intervals which is all controlled by timer. I only feed during the lights on period, and I have airtsones running 24/7. Holes in the bottom of the tray that lets the excess solution drain directly back into the Bucket.

I transplanted them 4 days ago and they are just now starting to show solid growth again. When the roots s tart to really reach out, they will start to grow into the hydroton.


Now this is not the final home for these lucky ladies. My flowering/ Main veg closet is filled with sticky gooey nuggets at the moment. Thats where my HPS/MH is for the moment.. I have a bigger res for my irrigation system ready to go, i just need to get some bigger trays. Qaulity ones arent cheap either, who woulda known plastic was so fucking expensive. I will be filling the entire tray with more Hydroton, and transplanting the rockwoll cubes into it.



Any input would be appreciated from all of the Hydro experts. Martrprojekt in particular, he was the person i copied most of my design from hahaha. Your epic grow was an inspiration to me, and i wish i lived near you so i could smoke some of that da da dankness.

[drudown11]

pics

[tinytoon]

Looks like a good start :thumbsup:

[ephyx057]

looking good

[Big len]

mine just broke out of there shells wish those were mine

[keylime]

My main concern would be your watering schedule...
In my experience with rockwool, 6x a day is too much, I would say you would be better off perhaps 3x a day...possibly even 2x. Rockwool holds a lot of moisture for a long time.

If you're having success, great! but I would consider feeding less times.

keylime

[GetThisOrDie]

Whats up dru?

From watching your other grows I know this one will be great as well. Best of luck!

[drudown11]

My main concern would be your watering schedule...
In my experience with rockwool, 6x a day is too much, I would say you would be better off perhaps 3x a day...possibly even 2x. Rockwool holds a lot of moisture for a long time.

If you're having success, great! but I would consider feeding less times.

keylime

yea I knew the feeding schedule was a work in progress. I still feed 6 times a day but ive also put the rockwoll cubes on top on Hydroton and now i flood the bottom too..

Its a top drip/ Ebb and flow hybrid setup. They get water from the top while the hydroton at the bottom gets flooded with aerated nutrient solution. I had to adjust the flood times a little bit, but growth is really blowing up.


Its acually getting really crowded. My flowering room better finish up soon or else i might need another 250 Watt for this closet too.

It seems that the clones I took from my outdoor plants were a little into flower. I seem some retarted re veg growth on a few of them.

[drudown11]

Whats up dru?

From watching your other grows I know this one will be great as well. Best of luck!

GT or mutha fucking D good to see you back around.

I got some seeds from my purple plant for you if you want um. I crossed it with a white widow male so it will be my purple widow. Who knows if the purple trait is dominant or not so you might have some variation in the Pheno's but im sure youll find a winner.

[GetThisOrDie]

You know it dru!

Your purple is the biggest yielding purple ive seen yet. Id love to have a chance to grow some out.

I have a handful of beans from my own purple creation that I still havent had the chance to breed out again. Need a bigger area... I cant remember the mother genetics but the father was a fine strawberry haze. Ill have to look at the info in my journal for the mother.

[drudown11]

alright everything is running smoothly.




Growth is exploding and theyll go under the MH here in a couple days.



Im up too 500 PPM

so'me bitch wont let me post pictures though.. thats gay

[tinytoon]

have not been able to upload pics in about a week now I believe.

[drudown11]

here we go


Looks like I found a RAT!!!!!!!!! she prefers the grow room but shes too cute for me to exterminate. I think she likes the smell hehehe

[drudown11]

i am having one problem with this grow.........Its growing to damn fast. I tried to time my veg and flower rooms accordingly but this god damn hydroponic growth has me like a week and a half ahead of schedule


basically they're way to fucking crowded in there but i dont have the ventilation to add another light. Theyll just have to fight it out until i can put them under the HID and flip the switches on them bitches

[Alantae]

You have an awesome grow set up. I'm so excited about setting up my hydro system. I am half way done. Plus I have a grip of seeds. :)

[tinytoon]

Start bending Dru

[GetThisOrDie]

Looking very good dru! My cats and dog LOVE the grow tent... My cats will eat only the leaves where as my dog will try to eat an entire cola. I try to keep them away as much as possible because I end up picking out cat hair when I break it up in the end.

[GetThisOrDie]

updates dru!

[drudown11]

alright here we go



Moved them into theyre final destination,put them under the HID, and t5's(combination of 2700k and 6500k bulbs for some extra resin production).


I have a 10 gallon res that is directly below the plants where the nutrient solution is aerated, and recirculated. All i do is check PH and add water, all the timers, pumps, and lights do the rest.


Ive been bending, topping, and super cropping before I flower them next week.

[drudown11]

Well i know that Louisville slugger makes good baseball bats.... but it seems Lumatek is beggining to produce them too. hahahahaha



those are from my most recent closet crop. 250 watt MH/HPS 150 watts cfl. Personally, I blame it on the Mychorrizae. Shit does wonders for nutrient uptake.



I know I can do better this time around.

[sleeperls93]

That's awesome! what strain is that! looks tasty!:smokin:

[tinytoon]

Aye nice colas there, What strain Dru??

[drudown11]

thats my sour diesel. She takes about 11-12 weeks to really ripen up(13 if you really wanna frost her up but I hate flowering for that long.

The is a reward for the longer flowering time is the HUGE YIELDS, Towering 30 gram colas(dry) that give inexperienced stoners panic attacks. She has a really speedy up high, that mind fucks you for about 3 hours.

[GetThisOrDie]

Dru thats the shit right there...

Those are amazing buds from a 250w.


Heh, I wouldnt mind having some batting practice with those sluggers. Amazing work...

[sleeperls93]

yumm!! Sour D?? How I love sour D, I would be to p'noid to grow that shit though, lol....

[drudown11]

yumm!! Sour D?? How I love sour D, I would be to p'noid to grow that shit though, lol....

well lets just say that during flowering, i dont have many visitors. hahaha no joke

[drudown11]

here we are in the 3rd week of flower. Ive been giving them blasts of bushmaster every week or so in order to control the stretch. It has been working great.

I switched from fox farms, to house and garden nutrients and Im never going to go back. The Ph stays more stable and Its just a better quality product. Ive been running the big bud at 2 ml per gallon and it seems to be working good. BTW Roots Excelurator is some reallly good stuff and even though the price was steep, im glad i bought it.


I also upgraded and baught an aircooled hood that i have hooked up to my inline fan. Also got a 250 watt Hortilux Super HPS bulb and popped that sucker in there. It helped lower the temperature of the closet to a perfect, 75 degrees. . The buds can touch the glass and still not burn.

[GetThisOrDie]

Lookin awesome dru.


Mine are 2 weeks +2 days. We will probably be finishing around the same time. One of mine is 8wks and the other is 9-10wks.

[drudown11]

seriously though, i reallllllly like these House and Garden nutrients. I havent even been using a PPM pen and the nutrient schedule posted on their website has produced no burning, even at full strength.I have no idea what PPM's are, and I notice nothing but vigorous growth. Fox farms burned my leaves really bad and the PH would bounce up and down like a basketball. I used to be a loyal FF customer but thats because iv'e never tried anything else.


I probaly made 500$ in ugrades to nutrients, lighting, irrigation systems, ventilation, ect. I owed it to my plants, they're single handedly sending me through college. Coming from a family of alchoholics who aren't really there for me, sometimes my plants are all i have.

[GetThisOrDie]

FF will definitely burn if you follow the full strength schedule. I usually cut it in half or less with no burning and still great growth. Also switched from feed,water,feed to feed,water,water,feed. That helped a TON with the FF burning.

[drudown11]

FF will definitely burn if you follow the full strength schedule. I usually cut it in half or less with no burning and still great growth. Also switched from feed,water,feed to feed,water,water,feed. That helped a TON with the FF burning.



Updated nightime pictures.



Total of 15 gallons of nutrient solution.
currently running......
1.1 ml/gal Roots excelerator
10 ml/gal Aqau flakes a+b(adding 11 ml of a, and then 11 ml of b after)
2 ml/gal Cal mag+
2 ml/gal AN Big Bud
5 ml/gal Big bloom
1 ml/gal Purple maxx
2.5ml/gal Humbolt Hydro Carbs(basically mollases)
2.5ml/gal GH silica blast

I let it sit for 20 mintues and the PH is PERFECT at around 5.8-6.2. NO PH UP, NO PH DOWN. I fucking love it. When i use fox farms tiger bloom my ph is around 5 before i use PH up.

I check PH daily and also add around 2 gallons of water daily to replenish the res. Ever week i add 3 teaspoon's of "Great White" to replace my bene's just incase they die off somehow. Growth is really starting to blow up and buds are starting to pop up everywhere.


Also did some pruning of the fan leaves to open up the canopy a little and allow better penetration. I have a tendancy to really jam them in this closet so pruning is needed, it just a jungle after a while.

I would love to add C02 into the closet but I also NEED to cool my lights and ventilate the smell.
With my fans on during the daytime, all of my C02 would be sucked right out. Anyone have a Suggestion?

[tinytoon]

Not bad for a dirt grower ........................................:D


J/K Dru they look wonderful :thumbsup:

[drudown11]

Not bad for a dirt grower ........................................:D

:thumbsup:

hahaha yea no doubt. I love studying hydroponics but my heart and soul lie in the all organic backwoods of washington state. Im a indoor gardener by neccessity, but an outdoor gardener by choice:) Next summer im going to try some outdoor hydroponic plants in my greenhouse. Combining my two favorite methods of growing. Sounds like a treat.

[GetThisOrDie]

Well if you introduce co2 you can let it get hotter in there. You can have the hood draw air from outside of the tent for cooling as well.

Cant you flood with co2 then after awhile exhaust for fresh air then flood again and repeat? Ive never used co2 so I might be wrong.

[LOC NAR on probation]

If your closet is in an area with people living then forget it it's too dangerous. A co2 leak can kill people and pets. Other than that.

Raise temps to 95 degrees and flood the room with 1500 ppm's co2 for about 4 hours. Completely flush room with fresh air. Fill with co2 again. This does not need to be done during dark period just flush with fresh air.
This may finish you up one week early.

[drudown11]

If your closet is in an area with people living then forget it it's too dangerous. A co2 leak can kill people and pets. Other than that.

Raise temps to 95 degrees and flood the room with 1500 ppm's co2 for about 4 hours. Completely flush room with fresh air. Fill with co2 again. This does not need to be done during dark period just flush with fresh air.
This may finish you up one week early.

yea Its my bedroom closet so i might have to rule out co2 until i have a bigger grow space. My dogs like to sleep in my room so i dont wanna come home to a bunch of stiffs.

[drudown11]

getting purdy in there!

[Gare0440]

real purdy :thumbsup: yum yum yum. i might have to give this a shot in my closet. dwc systems seem like a fun experiment :rastasmoke: t5 and hps good little combo man

[drudown11]

These are Actually not DWC, but of a Ebb and Flow system that I created. The plants are in Rockwoll that sits on top of Hydroton in 2 seperate trays. 3 plants per tray. I flood them 5 times a day, every hour and a half.

Ive done DWC before but changing Buckets was a pain in the ass in late flower. This new system is easier to maintain and is totally automated with timers and pumps. PH and PPM's stay more stable also.


DWC is a great way for soil growers to experiment with hydroponics. The idea of of a five gallon bucket with an airstone at the bottom is as simple as you can get. The yields can be huge if you do it right too

[polishpollack]

If you greenhouse hydro, just be careful of your water temps. Get too hot and you'll have stinky bacteria and fungi in your water that will make you wonder just what the heck is going on. Nice grow. So is this kind of like a tray version of krusty bucket? Good to see you're in Wa. too. It's a good place to go indoors or outdoors if you've got the land. Good temps for both.

[drudown11]

these pics should better explain things.


I have two trays that are actually designed for Rockwool slabs, but I filled them with Hydroton and Transplanted my Rockwool into the hydroton. I flood the troughs, and it drains back to ther res by gravity. I keep one side higher than the other with books so it drains freely.

I had some overflow issues when I first started and I also ran into some over watering problems, but Throughout the grow ive worked out the kinks and I got everything dialed in before I flowered them.

Very simple setup. Flood the trays and let gravity drain it back. I like simple.:thumbsup::jointsmile:

sorry for the shitty pic.

[drudown11]

real purdy :thumbsup: yum yum yum. i might have to give this a shot in my closet. dwc systems seem like a fun experiment :rastasmoke: t5 and hps good little combo man

I was reading your grow and saw something at the local hydro store that sparked my interest. Dont mean to be a copy cat but I bought one just for shits and giggles. :) Well see if these things actually put off enough c02 to improve plant growth.

[drudown11]

getting kinda colorful in there.



Week 5 1/2 of flower.

[Gare0440]

I was reading your grow and saw something at the local hydro store that sparked my interest. Dont mean to be a copy cat but I bought one just for shits and giggles. Well see if these things actually put off enough c02 to improve plant growth.
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:thumbsup::thumbsup: nice to see other people tryin the new products too:thumbsup:
gettin nice and colorful. looking beautiful... those trichs are startin to stack

[drudown11]

I've lowered the PPMs of my base nutrient and added 2 ml/gal of purple maxx and also added 3 ml/gal of BUD XL. Noticed a little tip burn a couple of days ago, letting me know I've hit their limits.



Ive also noticed some light bleaching on my purple plant directly under the light. You can notice it a bit in the picture. I raised the light a as much as i could.

[tinytoon]

they are coming along nicely :thumbsup:

[drudown11]

they are coming along nicely :thumbsup:

thanks tiny.

[tinytoon]

That avatar new or did I just never notice it??:wtf:

[drudown11]

its new i changed it last week. change is good sometimes. Obama is not included in that statement.

[tinytoon]

:S2:

[Gare0440]

Obama is not included in that statement. right ha??:thumbsup::thumbsup: noticed any difference with your co2 bag?

[drudown11]

right ha??:thumbsup::thumbsup: noticed any difference with your co2 bag?

I think its helping, but I havent seen a huge difference in growth.

Alright Im gunna take some cuts tomorrow as soon as I can buy another T5 fixture for the other closet. into I know I'm kinda gay for those t5's but ive been getting really good results with them. Im about to say fuck it and turn my study room's closet in a full time veg and mother room. It would save me tons of time though because i always have to reveg my clones, which is a real pain in the ass. I just popped some seeds of the purps, and im trying to get some different phenos. Hopefully theyll catch up to the reveg clones and ill have a even canopy.

In my flowering room I have the Enhanced Spectrum Super that has some exra blue light that my regular hps doesnt. I have noticed a difference in growth with the Hortilux bulb. It blows my sylvania out of the fucking water. On top of that I am using 4 2700k bulbs and 4 6500k bulbs to add a little more blue to the mix. I swear the supplemental Blue bulbs give a better quality product. I havent done a side by side grow, but ever since Ive been adding blue light during flowering ive seen increased resin production.


All i need is a LED and itll be like an acid trip in the closet. Red,yellow, orange, blue, purple.

[Gare0440]

just popped some seeds
still up for that offer if its around and u wanna talk outside of here. :thumbsup:

sounds like ure on the way too a constant setup, right on bro.

[tinytoon]

Dru you ever put clones in the fridge for keeping??

[drudown11]

Dru you ever put clones in the fridge for keeping??

yes as a matter of fact i do tiny. I have gotten them to root after 1 month in the fridge. Some get a little slimey and ratty, but theyre still viable.

I like to put them in a plastic bag with a little bit of water and stick them in my veggie drawer. I cant believe it works so well!

[tinytoon]

Best I ever did was 7 weeks and still rooted :thumbsup:

[steezyd]

refrigeration huh?...fascinating...I'm going to look into bushmaster as well.

good stuff, looks great dru.

[tinytoon]

Yup a ziplock bag and the crisper drawer of fridge and the only work it takes is opening the bag evry few days to exchange air :thumbsup:

[drudown11]

Picked up a 400/250 Lumatek ballast and added more light to the closet for shits and giggles. Temps are in the high 80's now but i think ill be good because i am enriching my environment with co2

[tinytoon]

mmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmm Purty!!!

[Gare0440]

Temps are in the high 80's now but i think ill be good because i am enriching my environment with co2

does that co2 really help with that?

doing it right in the closet bro. keep it up. lookin damn good for makeshift ponics:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[drudown11]

alright, Its christmas time and it looks like the snow is right on time............

[tinytoon]

/splat! (snowball) :D

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice going dru

Hey I think your temps are lower than you think. It looks like your temp sensor is hanging there in direct light. That will give you a higher reading since its getting heated up by the direct light. Try shading it for a better reading.

Read somewhere that it was high 80s in the shade that you need to worry about.

[drudown11]

The reason I have It so high is because I want to know the temps for the canopy. The closer you get to the light, the hotter it gets. The lower part of the plant may be 80 degrees, but you will still see stretching and airy buds because temps near the canopy are in the low 90's.


Ive only got about 2-3 weeks left anyways, im not to worried about it getting too hot. I just try and keep the temps down because it helps with the density of the buds.

My outdoor cannabis plants were in the mild climate and loved the 70 degree weather. My ideal temperatues would be for 70-75 degrees during the day and 60 degrees at night..

[drudown11]

To chop or not to chop? that is the question

[GetThisOrDie]

im also pondering this great question...

Its never good to be staring at your buds while thinking... makes you want to chop.


I need to slap myself another 5 days i think. Slap yourself!

[drudown11]

im also pondering this great question...

Its never good to be staring at your buds while thinking... makes you want to chop.


I need to slap myself another 5 days i think. Slap yourself!




The trichs are maturing and some of the plants look ready but this Bushmaster has sped up my flowering cycle by a week and 1/2 so ive never cut them at 8 weeks before, always more towards 9 or ten. I took some pictures but had trouble uploading them yesterday. This is by far the best quality marijuana ive ever produced. I just smoked a sampler nug and it gets me twice as high as this other shit Ive been smoking on. I need a different THC to CBD ratio to rattle my shit for a couple of weeks before i get a tolerance again.


I also got ahold of a Blue Dream and White Russian clone. Im holding on to them for a buddy until his room is up and running(he will be giving me some in the end if Im growing these plants for any amount of time). I will take a few cuts from the bottom when I give them back(ive been looking for blue dream for a while, i cant just let it get away from me):thumbsup:

BTW im not impressed with the quality of the clones from the dispensary. They were shitty clones took from shitty branches and they were stunted from defiency and underwatering. All of them were like that. Maybe I should grow some mothers and sell the dispensary some quality product, I have clones from flowering females that look better than these.

[tinytoon]

Your own will always look better, atleast that is IMHO :jointsmile:

[Gare0440]

howd the ladies turn out?!