View Full Version : fair or unfair??
dmngzckynd
09-17-2010, 02:04 AM
I had a dispensary that I had signed over a while back, deal was a free gram when I signed and a free quarter every month after 3 months. I waited, meantime doing some shopping there every chance I would get which wasnt often to be honest, I just dont have the funds, but when I did have funds whether it was a 5 dollar joint to a 200 dollar sack I spent it there. Last month the owner said I couldnt get my meds because I dont shop there enough, well I had already spent 5 dollars in there earlier( i know pathetic, but it was all I could afford) and so she said I could get the meds this time but if I didnt spend more there, she was gonna drop me. I went there a week later and spent 200 and was over charged 40 dollars, and I agreed to get it credited for next time. Next time was a few days ago so I went to go pick up my credit and my free meds and she denied me my meds and only gave me 30 worth of my credit, and she said she would not give me my meds cuz she had dropped me,.......no paperwork or nothing, no more meds, nada, is this fair???
Colodonmed
09-17-2010, 02:31 AM
I would post the name of the center for all to see and avoid. Sorry to hear that crap! Greedy, greedy shame on the center.
Zedleppelin
09-17-2010, 02:32 AM
I would have laughed and walked when they offered the free gram when you signed up to begin with.
Greenergy
09-17-2010, 02:37 AM
Post the name of the center on here and CL with a warning label
copobo
09-17-2010, 03:34 AM
be sure to send in your change of caregiver form to a new caregiver or to blank so they really aren't getting benefit from you (eventually)
dmngzckynd
09-17-2010, 03:34 AM
I thought it was a lil rude on their part, when I only got my free meds twice and one of the times it was some bunk ass meds they said was SD and the second time she shorted me half of what I was supposed to get. The first time she gave me that SD, I had another 20 I was gonna spend and she said I didnt have to spend any money cause I was getting meds for free, I thought that was nice until I got home. Then she gives me the boot because I dont spend enough there?? WTF?? Sad thing is, I live 3 hours away from Denver, I told her I shop there as much as possible but I live so far away, she seemed to not care. I have 8 kids with my wife!!! and I have to drive 3 hours, and we take 4 of the kids with us, so after gas and food, and their appointments(cause we're usually there for their dentist or doctor visits) I have very lil left for meds, that's why im looking for a good shop or a good caregiver until I get setup to grow my own meds, I was looking for someone more considerate, with consistent quality and fair pricing, is that too much to ask? incentives and perks are nice to you know!! and how do I know these pricks arent still growing my six plants I gave them right to grow???
canniwhatsis
09-17-2010, 04:18 AM
be sure to send in your change of caregiver form to a new caregiver or to blank so they really aren't getting benefit from you (eventually)
+1!
Fill out a change of caregiver form, have it notarised, and submit it to the registry. Send a "Signature required" copy of it to the dispensary so you have confirmation that they received it. (It is the responsibility of the patient to inform their current caregiver of a change in status)
I would be reluctant to take new patients without such proof personally, MMC's are covered under different laws tho,... so any number of them will probably take you onboard.
Good luck! and who "F'd" you? So I know where to avoid!
canniwhatsis
09-18-2010, 06:30 AM
crappy quality is one thing, which can be fixed, and people will stop back and check... but a shitty people experience, man.... if you only knew what it costs!
A customer walks into a shop and has an outstanding experience, service and quality are top notch (Speaking of any kind of business, I have AAS in Automotive)
That customer will tell 1 in 10 of his/her friends about his/her good experience with your shop.
Now, on the other hand,... if a customer walks into a shop and has a SHITTY experience,.... they will tell 7 of 10 friends, (And likely anyone they meet on the street that brings up your business name)
Screwing one customer is effectively like turning away 7 potential customers,... so it just doesn't make sense as a business plan.
Those shops won't be around long.;)
MEDEDCANNABIS
09-18-2010, 03:22 PM
if they are your caregiver, those are your six they are growing. your are entitled to reasonable prices or freebies every harvest. otherwise take your plants back find another way.
meded so you can mededicate to mededitate:thumbsup:
copobo
09-18-2010, 03:43 PM
A customer walks into a shop and has an outstanding experience, service and quality are top notch (Speaking of any kind of business, I have AAS in Automotive)
That customer will tell 1 in 10 of his/her friends about his/her good experience with your shop.
Now, on the other hand,... if a customer walks into a shop and has a SHITTY experience,.... they will tell 7 of 10 friends, (And likely anyone they meet on the street that brings up your business name)
Screwing one customer is effectively like turning away 7 potential customers,... so it just doesn't make sense as a business plan.
Those shops won't be around long.;)
How Odd. My post, that you quote, is gone?
wtf?
Zedleppelin
09-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Quite a few posts are gone.
copobo
09-18-2010, 03:53 PM
oh, I see. all those posts about that dispensary in Lafayette (I'm tempted to speak up now that my shit has been lumped into all that crap!)
I didn't even mention them, though I have been in there and nothing put up by the other posters was inaccurate. Are we not allowed to be critical of bad experiences? Seem a pretty appropriate place for it to me.
Don't waste your time trying to chase people around the interwebs who you gave shitty service to. There is no escape from that! Put your energy into doing the RIGHT THING by the people you serve.
ThaiBuddhaMan
09-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Happens here all the time.
I stopped taking it personally.
I don't think the mods always read the actual posts as even mine were deleted and I go way out of the way not to offend or go against the TOU.
But to the original poster, not sure if the correct advice is still posted or not, but the only thing you can do is:
1) Fill out the correct Change of Caregiver form.
2) Send to the State and send a copy to Caregiver.
Good Luck!
MEDEDCANNABIS
09-18-2010, 08:32 PM
truth be told, this is a cutthroat industry. take the seed biz, it has been and always will be cutthroat. posting lies about each other, stealing strains, selling knockoffs, and splitting companies up over disagreements. i wouldnt be suprised from the same from dispensaries and growers.
meded is a hell of a drug
JeepGuyCO
09-19-2010, 01:49 AM
oh, I see. all those posts about that dispensary in Lafayette (I'm tempted to speak up now that my shit has been lumped into all that crap!)
I didn't even mention them, though I have been in there and nothing put up by the other posters was inaccurate. Are we not allowed to be critical of bad experiences? Seem a pretty appropriate place for it to me.
Don't waste your time trying to chase people around the interwebs who you gave shitty service to. There is no escape from that! Put your energy into doing the RIGHT THING by the people you serve.
Selective enforcement for the win. Why can't the mods who are deleting posts tell everyone why they are deleting? It seems that the rules are vague and enforcement depends on ?...
I wish we knew what the site operators are so afraid of when they edit threads.
wkhey4
09-19-2010, 03:17 AM
Selective enforcement for the win. Why can't the mods who are deleting posts tell everyone why they are deleting? It seems that the rules are vague and enforcement depends on ?...
I wish we knew what the site operators are so afraid of when they edit threads.
I'm starting to wonder why posts would be deleted. I'm new to this site but have been blogging for yrs. and yrs. and am a moderator on a R.Road site. From my experience sites that censor posts are doomed. When this happens posters get to the point when they're afraid to post what is really on their minds. When this happens said posters will drift away and cease to become active. The more members and the more active they are is why some sites survive and some don't.
cornbread
09-20-2010, 04:53 AM
I think I know of the Lafayette disp...They're really hurting with high prices, a shitty hidden location, & locked into a bad 5 year lease
cornbread
09-20-2010, 05:30 AM
Some dispensaries are now charging $100 and more for the privilege of joining their "club" which means you obviously give up your growing rights. About all you can do with these places is buy some pre-rolls and tell them your harvest is right around the corner...That always cheers them up
cologrower420
09-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Some dispensaries are now charging $100 and more for the privilege of joining their "club" which means you obviously give up your growing rights. About all you can do with these places is buy some pre-rolls and tell them your harvest is right around the corner...That always cheers them up
I'm curious which 'dispensaries' are charging for membership, can you elaborate or share which places are doing this?
Budbudda
09-22-2010, 06:14 PM
Some dispensaries are now charging $100 and more for the privilege of joining their "club" which means you obviously give up your growing rights. About all you can do with these places is buy some pre-rolls and tell them your harvest is right around the corner...That always cheers them up
Why does charging a signing fee (which I don't agree with) change the fact that each patient can grow 6 for themselves and also give an MMC the right to grow 6 on their behalf as well?
The argument the dispensary uses to drop the patient is ridiculous. They have the right to grow 6 plants - who cares who actually buys the finished product??
cologrower420
09-22-2010, 07:40 PM
Why does charging a signing fee (which I don't agree with) change the fact that each patient can grow 6 for themselves and also give an MMC the right to grow 6 on their behalf as well?
The argument the dispensary uses to drop the patient is ridiculous. They have the right to grow 6 plants - who cares who actually buys the finished product??
Unless they are publicly outed, I doubt that there are places charging for membership. If there are, I want in, because that means they are the tits. I'm assuming we're discussing MMC's and not some private caregiver agreement or something. I could be wrong.
I think there is a viable future option for smaller boutique style places. I would happily pay a membership fee if it meant I consistently got top 1% meds. I don't care what the cost would be, it would be worth it. $100 is nothing to me as far as accessing quality medicine.
The only reason an MMC would turn away business is if they are protecting their inventory for their existing patients. There's nothing wrong with that. Go a block down the road to the next place.
cornbread
09-25-2010, 03:30 AM
boy...someone's really mixed up :S2:
canniwhatsis
09-25-2010, 05:50 AM
Why does charging a signing fee (which I don't agree with) change the fact that each patient can grow 6 for themselves and also give an MMC the right to grow 6 on their behalf as well?
I'd like to see clarification on this. :wtf:
As I've understood it each patient has 6 plants,... and if the patient was going to try a home grow of 1 plant, the caregiver or dispensary could only grow 5, and so on to the max of 6 plants.
Recently I've been hearing this "6/6" thing, so a patient can grow 6, and their caregiver can grow 6 more. But I haven't personally read it in the laws. (Still lots of reading to do!) :o
Anyone care to point it out where this is stated in the statutes? :wtf:
ThaiBuddhaMan
09-25-2010, 07:20 AM
Pretty sure with 1284 - MMCs don't need you to sign over plants. Private caregivers are a different story. You would need to sign over some plant numbers if they are going to be growing for you. Of course, if you just need a caregiver to pick meds (in other words home-bound but can still move around enough to grow) then I guess you don't even have to give up plant numbers. Typically though I think most private cg's are growing for their patients.
MEDEDCANNABIS
09-25-2010, 04:34 PM
I'd like to see clarification on this. :wtf:
As I've understood it each patient has 6 plants,... and if the patient was going to try a home grow of 1 plant, the caregiver or dispensary could only grow 5, and so on to the max of 6 plants.
Recently I've been hearing this "6/6" thing, so a patient can grow 6, and their caregiver can grow 6 more. But I haven't personally read it in the laws. (Still lots of reading to do!) :o
Anyone care to point it out where this is stated in the statutes? :wtf:
personally, if your able to grow physically, mentally and financially its worth the learning curve to do it and just use dispensaries in droughts. too many are caught up in the candy store aspect as far as law goes i would assume you give up your six when you assign a caregiver. i HAVE seen employment opportunities for auditors and regulators for the state...be wary people:( mofos probably get paid 100k to bust our asses + commision, benefits and paid holidays, sick days and vacation. i was a straight A student and i have never seen that. guess it pays to be a traitor.
if you dont smoke meded, then fuck you;)
copobo
09-25-2010, 05:54 PM
personally, if your able to grow physically, mentally and financially its worth the learning curve to do it and just use dispensaries in droughts. too many are caught up in the candy store aspect as far as law goes i would assume you give up your six when you assign a caregiver. i HAVE seen employment opportunities for auditors and regulators for the state...be wary people:( mofos probably get paid 100k to bust our asses + commision, benefits and paid holidays, sick days and vacation. i was a straight A student and i have never seen that. guess it pays to be a traitor.
absolutely. plant some seeds! What I like to use dispensaries for is trying a gram or two of a varieties I'm interested in trying/growing.
if you dont smoke meded, then fuck you;)
I alwys look forward to your sig line :thumbsup:
SoCoMMJ
09-25-2010, 07:37 PM
Recently I've been hearing this "6/6" thing, so a patient can grow 6, and their caregiver can grow 6 more.
Anyone care to point it out where this is stated in the statutes? :wtf:
It's not in the statutes. It still defaults to the Amendment 20 standards. Collectively you can grow 6. If your caregiver is growing 4, then you can grow 2.
There is a medical necessity clause for additional plants above the 6, but you have to prove that in court. Law enforcement will not necessarily honor that in a search, even with an expanded Dr's rec.
Hope that clears it up for you.:)
copobo
09-25-2010, 08:05 PM
but, imagine you got yours counted for some reason. if you had six and they checked your card, they wouldn't then go check your caregiver. chances are the caregiver is growing for a bunch of other people, too.Given that neither of you can control what the other does.. you can grow your six. If you have six or less at your house, you don't have anything to worry about...
in my opinion. please consult your attorney.
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