What's the point of going to a dispensary?

[jmagellan]

(I'm new, so please excuse the ignorance :))

Since dispensaries are illegal, how is buying MJ from a dispensary any safer (legally) than buying off a dealer? Not to mention that many of the providers on THCF Bellevue's list require you to provide documentation with your ID, thereby leaving a paper trail.

Have any patients gotten in trouble with law enforcement for seeking MJ through a dispensary?

I've never tried MJ; just want to try quality product once without hassle or concerns of getting in legal trouble.

[justpics]

dispensaries were not designated as illegal or expressly banned under WA's medical marijuana law. In fact, that legislature is working hard to change the law so that the currently operating model for dispensaries would be illegal. If it was already not allowed why would they need to change it?



The limits on being someone's designated provider currently are;

18 years of age or older

designated in writing

doesn't use the patient's medicine

only one patient at a time

So yes, they are mostly operating legally as long as they follow those basic rules.


The reason you go to a dispensary is to get meds, the reason you chose that over another method may be that your garden is not yet harvesting, your regular source is out, or your regular source is not as good as the dispensary.

[jamessr]

What is the point of a pharmacy? A paper trail to find illegal dispensing or distributing...same concept with a dispensary...get your medical authorization before attempting to score your 1st...what ever your looking for...

[budlover13]

In Cali, dispensaries aren't illegal. If you are using them to supply you with medicine, you'll be ok with a doctors recommendation. If you are buying an ounce a day every day, the limit for each day, you will probably raise sonme eyebrows because it's obviously not just for you.

[khyberkitsune]

In Cali, dispensaries aren't illegal. If you are using them to supply you with medicine, you'll be ok with a doctors recommendation. If you are buying an ounce a day every day, the limit for each day, you will probably raise sonme eyebrows because it's obviously not just for you.

I know several patients that vape an ounce daily easily.

[killerweed420]

I know one woman that suffers from seizures and goes through a pound a month.
There's not much risk at this point for people using dispensaries. Have not seen one documented case of someone being arrested for using a dispensary. So while its still in the gray area its relatively safe.

[gypski]

I know one woman that suffers from seizures and goes through a pound a month.
There's not much risk at this point for people using dispensaries. Have not seen one documented case of someone being arrested for using a dispensary. So while its still in the gray area its relatively safe.

That's true, its the dispensary operator(s) or those who provide the medicine to the dispensaries that are most at risk. Even some dispensary employees escape scrutiny is some instances. :thumbsup:

[budlover13]

My favorite local dispensary has really been sticking to the letter of the law and all county ordinances. Fresno County has placed a moratorium on all new dispensaries and are investigating each existing dispensary on it's own merit. I think there will be quite a few shut down, but those that play by the rules will still be allowed.

[eljugo]

I know several patients that vape an ounce daily easily.

vape an ounce a day? that's a retardedly large amount to consume.

[khyberkitsune]

vape an ounce a day? that's a retardedly large amount to consume.

I'll do that without thinking.

You get your leg and wrist and back replaced and reinforced with titanium and plastic, you'll probably smoke as much as I to keep the post-op pain under control.

[killerweed420]

Yep there are people that need that much to control the pain or the seizures. We're not all the same which is why there are so many different prescription drugs out there.

[eljugo]

damn.. I can't even fathom what an ounce a day vaped would do to me.

[killerweed420]

You build up tolerance after a while just like you do with prescriptions.

[Contrabandit]

I could also go through and ounce of prime meds in a day.. the headaches from a gun shot wound to the head are horrible.. just wish i had enough meds that i could smoke an ounce a day, well soon i will!

on the subject of dispensaries from what i take it they can only provide for one person at a time, and as long as its just you and the bud tender in that room, your his patient for only as long as your in that room. dispensaries are a really great idea, I just don't like what most of them charge for there meds.. I mean 60 for 3 grams of space queen!! who am i paul allen?

[killerweed420]

Yep thats the answer. Get into a position where you can grow your own and start producing whatever it takes to control your ailment. And remember there is nothing illegal about growing over the 15 plant limit. You just have to be careful ,keep your mouth shut and try to build a medical history that will prove that you need more than the government guidelines.

[Contrabandit]

Legal or Illegal, they will have to pry my pipe out of my cold dead fingers!!! :rasta:

[killerweed420]

You can't take writings from other websites that don't quite the law.
RCW 69.51A.080
Adoption of rules by the department of health â?? Sixty-day supply for qualifying patients.


(1) By July 1, 2008, the department of health shall adopt rules defining the quantity of marijuana that could reasonably be presumed to be a sixty-day supply for qualifying patients; this presumption may be overcome with evidence of a qualifying patient's necessary medical use.

(2) As used in this chapter, "sixty-day supply" means that amount of marijuana that qualifying patients would reasonably be expected to need over a period of sixty days for their personal medical use. During the rule-making process, the department shall make a good faith effort to include all stakeholders identified in the rule-making analysis as being impacted by the rule.

(3) The department of health shall gather information from medical and scientific literature, consulting with experts and the public, and reviewing the best practices of other states regarding access to an adequate, safe, consistent, and secure source, including alternative distribution systems, of medical marijuana for qualifying patients. The department shall report its findings to the legislature by July 1, 2008.

Its still in the law though changed a little from the original intiative. But you can still have over 15 plants but you better have ample medical proof that you require more.

[justpics]

According to the DoH there is no substantive difference between a doctor recommending more and "evidence of necessary medical use", but it seems most doctors are not willing to write more specifically, in the fear that it will constitute a prescription of some kind.


So good luck with demonstrating you need more. I think it could be done if you were documenting your canopy size relative to 60 day yield, and because of your medical condition you could not maintain the needed canopy size with only 15 plants. In that case it should be easy to argue, since necessary medical use is defined as the growing itself. The easiest way to see this would probably be a patient in a wheel chair who uses SOG with 30-40 plants to yield the same as a patient who can lift a 20 lbs large plant in a big pot but use only 5 flowering plants or less.

But again, good luck in demonstrating it in court and ever recovering your loss from the raid and arrest/charge. Seems like the path of least resistance is to find someone who could grow for you within the presumptive limit.

Its doable, it just takes creative gardening and larger plants in a more expensive room.

[killerweed420]

I would agree that your argument is probably the best way to do it. Just say you can't produce enough from 15 plants to meet the 24 ounce limit. A good medical history would still provide some added benefit.
Having sit on a couple juries it seems like the general public looks at these cases like the defendant should absolutely prove in the courtroom that they have a terminal disease or are obviously in extreme pain. A lot of the old farts that get on these juries already enter the courtroom with there minds made up.
During jury deliberations its easy to see which ones had already made up there minds.

[gypski]

...........its easy to see which ones had already made up there minds.

Not only jurors, but politicians even against all scientific evidence. Really shows personal prejudice, and not logical sound reasoning. More like politicians believing in the boogie man and marijuana is going to ruin the world. Chicken Little's all and the sky isn't going to fall. :D

[killerweed420]

And still as sad as it is to say, our best response is to get on these juries. No matter how many times we try to legalize this the thugs are going to keep arresting patients. So get on these juries and just stick to your guns and say not guilty. Its the last place left in America where a person's vote actually counts.

[redchaos2354]

(I'm new, so please excuse the ignorance :))

Since dispensaries are illegal, how is buying MJ from a dispensary any safer (legally) than buying off a dealer? Not to mention that many of the providers on THCF Bellevue's list require you to provide documentation with your ID, thereby leaving a paper trail.

Have any patients gotten in trouble with law enforcement for seeking MJ through a dispensary?

I've never tried MJ; just want to try quality product once without hassle or concerns of getting in legal trouble.

See the police and everyone have it misconstrued. The professional locations get the medicine from other patients and they never assist more than one
person at a time. also the medicine is clearly donation. The price ur paying is the cost for the compensation given to the helping patient in regards to power, labor, supplies etc. Than the stores take their overhead cost, labor cost, supplies etc and thats how the cost is associated. people are paying for labor, power, business location cost etc. The medicine is slearly a donation. A huge example of how dispensaries help is people on fixed incomes with no place to grow for themselves and no provider they can trust or mayby cant find one. Also a severe ms patient etc cannot physically grow for themselves so its a convenience for them. Also think about this if someone robs you for the medicine u grew for yourself you could call the cops and as long as ur legit and following ur limit the cops would catch them and press charged for the theft. and the person would have to pay restitution for the medicine they stole. But thats like the state/cops making it basically where you sold marijuana to the person because they paid restitution for what they stole.