Criticize my gro please

[Locedd]

Bubba kush 5-6 weeks old,

This is my first grow, I used regular cheap 3$ bag of dirt from wal mart, then switched it to miracle grow soil. I know I messed up, I already bought a tote, and water pump to make myself a ghetto hydro system, Can I transfer from miracle grow dirt , to hydroponic system at this stage? veg state still.

Oh yea, those 2 cfl's are daylight bulbs, about 100 watts each, 5000k
( got a couple 2700k cfl 40 watt bulbs ready for when they flower)

The wall is a car window reflector, the fan is a 3$ 1 setting fan from walmart.

I am not using miracle grow plant food in the water since I replaced the soil with miracle gro soil, (moisture control).

[Iceberg420]

Bubba kush 5-6 weeks old,

This is my first grow, I used regular cheap 3$ bag of dirt from wal mart, then switched it to miracle grow soil. I know I messed up, I already bought a tote, and water pump to make myself a ghetto hydro system, Can I transfer from miracle grow dirt , to hydroponic system at this stage? veg state still.

Oh yea, those 2 cfl's are daylight bulbs, about 100 watts each, 5000k
( got a couple 2700k cfl 40 watt bulbs ready for when they flower)

The wall is a car window reflector, the fan is a 3$ 1 setting fan from walmart.

I am not using miracle grow plant food in the water since I replaced the soil with miracle gro soil, (moisture control).

First off, im sorry to say this but you might as well kill that plant... possibly 6 weeks old? thats horrible i've seen a week old plant that big you stressed it too bad and its stunted... so now it'll hermie... and no plants like going from soil to dro... Well in my lifetime i havent gotten a sucessful transfer but just get the dirt good and ready before you start a plant next time, put it in a 1 gal pot and DONT F*** with its roots man and you'll have much better luck:thumbsup:

[Kingpiner]

you want me to criticize?

PIECE OF SHIT!

jk, i hear stress is worse in the flower stage then the veg stage for turning a plant hermie, for example, people fim, or top plants all the time during veg. i think you have nothing to lose by trying to fix it.

i also dont recommend starting in a 1 gallon, most of what i have read says that young seedling roots cant reach that far at first and so water can sit and get nasty in the pot.

overall, your plant actualy looks nice and green. good luck with the changes :thumbsup:

[TurboNugs]

Good luck man!!!!!

[drudown11]

It doesnt look that bad to me :thumbsup:.

#1 thing would be more light, more light, and some more light. Those Cfls only put out so much, so your going to need alot of them(preferabally in bigger wattages too)
Use the 5000K bulbs for vegetatative growth to encourage leaf growth and keep your plants from stretching And throw in the 2700k bulbs when you go into flower. Your going to want alot more though if you want to get a good yield. When you do flower the plant is gunna stretch and its going to need CFLs all around the plant, not just above. They can work fine, but they dont penetrate the canopy worth a shit.

Your soil is not ideal, but it will work to grow some decent herb. With the MG moisture control stuff you may run into overwatering problems. Just watch your plant and pay attention to the soil moisture. Experienced growers dont have a set watering schedule, they only water and fertalize when needed.


Despite what the person above me is saying....you can transplant from soil to hydro and flower a crop. http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/180792-soil-dwc-grow.html I have done it, check out my log.


If you were planning on doing that....

Go to a hydroponics store and purchase a PH test kit, PPM pen(its optional, but you can find some cheaper ones online), and some good nutrients. Grow formula for veg, Bloom formula for Bloom. Miracle grow fertalizer wont work, its not meant for hydroponics and will end in disaster.



Its also extremely stressfull to the plant and roots. If your plants do survive, its probably going to be a couple of weeks until you see solid growth again.

If you do decide to transplant that thing into a a DWC setup. Get some qaulity hydroponics components(net pots, hydroton, air pump, air stones) and please please please.....Dont half ass things. i see alot of new growers on theis who half ass growsand destroy their crops out of idiocracy. I refuse to let you go down that way.

[drudown11]

First off, im sorry to say this but you might as well kill that plant... possibly 6 weeks old? thats horrible i've seen a week old plant that big you stressed it too bad and its stunted... so now it'll hermie... and no plants like going from soil to dro... Well in my lifetime i havent gotten a sucessful transfer but just get the dirt good and ready before you start a plant next time, put it in a 1 gal pot and DONT F*** with its roots man and you'll have much better luck:thumbsup:

this is bad advice. Plants dont go hermaphrodite from stress in the vegetative part of growth. This is when you can stress the fuck out of them and mold them to your liking. I've used LST, Super cropping, FIM, and ive topped plants and as long as you dont do it in flower, you shouldnt develop hermies. That happens when you fuck with the plant in flower. They get pretty picky when they recieve light leaks into the garden so Make sure that you have the grow area totally sealed off from outside light

[Locedd]

Yes, the plant is about 6 weeks old, At first it was in a smaller pot, then I transfered the plant to this pot in the picture, (didn't grow for about a week after the transplant from being stuned) at the same time in the miracle gro soil.

The plant is shorter for that reason and another , I planted it too deep when the xfer to new pot/soil occured. I noticed some bottom leaves turned yellow and died week 1 after transfer due to the soil being to high to the plant.

But its looking good now, besides some holes i'm noticing in the big leaf, (is this bugs?)

[budlover13]

Pics?

[Locedd]

sorry crappy quality

[Locedd]

Okay, I did a DIY hydro setup with a airpump and air stone using a 5 gallon home depo bucket. I learned the hard way that I don't have the money right now to buy the ppm, EC and ph meter and the ph down . So I transplanted BACK to soil yet again. As you can imagine my plant looks like SHIT as you can see from the pictures(I crumbled the brown leaves off)

I used a bag of earth gro soil from home dep for like 5 bucks. Took out many sticks out as I could and added perlite to it. I still have foxfarm trio quarts I plan on using in the water with this schedule :

Bigbloom, 2tbl per gallon of water for the 1st month, every other watering
Except, dont give plants any on 4th week!
weeks 5 thru 12 1tbl per gallon of water, every other watering

Growbig, weeks 2,3,4,7&8 2tbl per gallon of water every other watering

TigerBloom Weeks 5thru12, 2tbl per gallon of water every other watering.

I use sink water that sits for 24 hours before use, it has ph level of 7.5 and I use conc lemon juice to lower it to 6.8 after the foxfarm nutes added. The runoff PH was about 6.5.


Those are 4 CFL 100 watt equiv lights in BIG RED cans using a replacement vent peice for a dryer from home depo (3$) as a reflector.. I made that ghetto grow box in the corner of my closet using window reflectors for cars, and cardboard box. The exhaust fan is from a pc fan to lower temp (good enough for that small box). Should I put wholes in the bottom of the door ? or add another pc fan blowing air in?

Criticize me and tell me if anything is wrong. Thanks and I appreciate any input I can get :^D

[Locedd]

About now, the plant is about 7-8 weeks old. I used a 3 liter bottle of soda that has been duct taped to keep light out, and has 5 holes in the bottom, and about 5 wholes all around the sides towards the bottom.

Its still in my old hydro setup in the net, Its a good way to get a run off reading for PH level because the water drops to the bottom of the bucket :rasta:

Using this 3 liter bottle, The top of the soil seems dry 3 inches down already , and its only been 2 days since I fed it (did a flush with nutes to get runoff ph reading) Should I water it again? or wait an extra day?

[Locedd]

Another thing, I been doing 18/6 light schedule from the begining, and last night took off the timer and plan on doing 24/0 . Is this okay or Is that a no no? I been reading through the forums and alot of mixed reviews.

[headshake]

is that fan blowing directly on the plant?

24/0 is fine, or 18/6 or 16/8. there is no definitive answer, sorry.


-shake

[Locedd]

Yes, it is blowing straight to the plant, Will get an osculating one soon. What are the negatives of having the fan straight to the plant?

[Slevinkal]

Ive read that a fan blowing directly on the plant could burn the leaves.

I think we have the same fan, the el' cheapo from walmart with just an on/off switch, right? I use mine to circulate four plants now. They're all under a foot tall and it works fine.

The fan does not have to blow directly on the plant as longs as it makes the plants wiggle just a bit. You only want the leaves to rustle around a bit and the plant should not be bending at the stem from the strain of the wind. Just a cool fresh breeze to help the plant grow a somewhat stronger stem is what you want.

[Locedd]

Should I put holes in the bottom of the door ? or add another pc fan blowing air in?

Yea it's the cheap walmart fan. 3$ LOL

So I read it's OKAY to put the plant on 24/0 but is it OKAY if The plant is used to 18/6 and I changed it to 24/0 like at 8 weeks in veg?

[Slevinkal]

It shouldnt hurt them. I noticed last night that my timer that was set to 18/6 had been bumped or something cause it was on 23/1 and i dont know how long it was like that. Three or four days prob, if not longer. It didnt hurt mine any. Adding more ventilation wont hurt anything but as long as ur temps stay under 100 at plant height u should be ok, under 85 is better though. LMAO the cheapo fan from walmart and pc fans are what im using. The cheapo n the box and one 80mm exhaust and one 80mm intake, ducted and filtered. The 4? duct is only 3mm biger than those pc fans so it zipties on nicely :thumbsup:

[headshake]

before you worry about intake do you have any exhaust?

-shake

[marianin]

Some folks told me to use 2 100Weq per plant
also, it is bad for the plant to get the fan directly as they said just to be able wiggle the leaves.
I see you got the same problem I had... it looks like the plant's leaves are bending, that could be overwatering or some pH problems.
also, it is not adviceble to transplant more than once or maybe twice =S
here are some pics of my failed attempt

[Locedd]

before you worry about intake do you have any exhaust?

-shake

Yea I got pics of it on post number 10 of this thread, do you think thats sufficient? The box is about 2 or 3 sq feet big.

[Locedd]

Some folks told me to use 2 100Weq per plant
also, it is bad for the plant to get the fan directly as they said just to be able wiggle the leaves.
I see you got the same problem I had... it looks like the plant's leaves are bending, that could be overwatering or some pH problems.
also, it is not adviceble to transplant more than once or maybe twice =S
here are some pics of my failed attempt

2 100 eq per plants? So 4 on 1 won't hurt right? Yea I hear you, I won't transplant it again it's just this plant is the only bubba kush I have, only got schwag seeds right now, So i'm hoping to get some good smoke on this plant and if it hermies. Then at least i'll have some more seeds to grow the same strand again. :jointsmile:

[headshake]

Yea I got pics of it on post number 10 of this thread, do you think thats sufficient? The box is about 2 or 3 sq feet big.

you want the air in your space exchanged every 5 minutes minimum, preferably every 1-2. you want hot, oxygen filled air exhausted and the cool, co2 filled air let in. if you get more PC fans i would use them for exhaust and keep the intakes passive. this way you get a negative pressure, which is exactly what you want. as the hot air is exhausted there is a space in the box that must be filled, so the cool air is sucked in. put your intakes towards the bottom as cool air falls.

if you do decide to put in an intake fan always have more exhaust than intake.


-shake

[tikiroom]

Agree with headshake, more exhaust and passive intake. :thumbsup:

[Locedd]

I'm buying 400 watt hps, Is it too much lumens for my grow closet space? about 3x3 sqf. I plan on growing 3 plants.

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[Locedd]

Here is my plant over 8 weeks old, 6 inches tall, will it hurt just to flower now at 6 inches? I would like seeds to regrow since I think it will Hermie from the stress from the 2 transplants.

[Locedd]

I said 8 weeks, more like 10 weeks old.

[leftreartire]

if your interested in a hydro system i can show you a diy bucket system that cost a total of 71 dollar from walmart and home depot. it is very simple and is a 5 pot system. the nutes you use are up to you but i highly recommend using cutting edge solutions. it is very resonabley priced contains a ph buffer that adjusts your ph to 6.5 and has a easy to under stand feeding chart, and nute calculator making the nutes fool proof. if you look on ebay you can find a start up package that is 160 shipped your door. and it is enough nutes for several grows.
just let me know as i have a complete list of products and easy to follow instuctions that i have made up.

[Locedd]

if your interested in a hydro system i can show you a diy bucket system that cost a total of 71 dollar from walmart and home depot. it is very simple and is a 5 pot system. the nutes you use are up to you but i highly recommend using cutting edge solutions. it is very resonabley priced contains a ph buffer that adjusts your ph to 6.5 and has a easy to under stand feeding chart, and nute calculator making the nutes fool proof. if you look on ebay you can find a start up package that is 160 shipped your door. and it is enough nutes for several grows.
just let me know as i have a complete list of products and easy to follow instuctions that i have made up.

I appreciate the offer, but i'm sticking with FF soil Until I get the $ for the ppm, EC, and ph pen. I feed Big grow every other feeding 1 tsp per gallon, and used lemon juice concentrate to lower ph to 6.2 ....

If I start a NON Autoflowering seed into 12/12 from the start, Will it turn into a 1 bud plant? Will it even survive to the flowering stage?