Do we exist?

[mellow mood]

Hi folks! sorry, this is more phylosophic thread than activism, but activism posts always stay longer :)

ok, so heres how i think about our existence.

We exist for a limite person only, dont we? i mean, only like 500 persons, maybe more, maybe less, knows you. and if nobody knows u do u actually exist? can we say the planet X54Xcu exists even we have never seen it? so im gettin to my point: in fact, we would like exist only for a limited number of persons.. isnt it strange? and even there, we are the only ones(the humans and the animals) knowing our existence. we are the only one to prove it, and nobody else can say it. in fact we are an inexistent sand grain among a desert almost infinite.

anyway, all this to say, considering the fact we are nothing, or a particle in a universe, we "do" actually exist, but only for us. and again, consdering we are a particle, do we realle have a role to play in this universe? are we here for nothing? do we have a goal? is there really a god? because if there is a god, it has to be infinite, it has to be all, because he couldnt be at a specific place in the immensity of all. that means we are a part of god. but even there, even if we are a part of god, does life really got a meaning, except the one we can find in this nonsense?

anyway, give your toughts, comments. there should be more phylosophical threads here, i like to see others ppl point of view :)

peace

[boywonder]

i agree with dave lister i think we are just mould growing on the earth or mayb even tiny creatures things living off the mould. u say this thing about only known to 500 people it's even less significant then that coz when they all die your gone even thou ud already be gone so thats like involving geneerations aswell, I or you deffenatly wont be rememberd but it dosent matter alsong as your having a good time whilst ur here, i mean it's all im goin to remember neway. or thats all i care about bad attitude i know it's not all i care about complety but a good part of it

[The Brotherhood.]

NEVER SMOKE ALONE because it gives you time to think and you start thinkin about shit like that and eventually you think everything is "fake" and you dont care about anything and ruin your life which is why this shit is illegal in the first place.i used to think like that and it got me really depressed and i got real lazy and didnt give a fuck about anything cus i thought everything was "fake".

[The Piper]

wow man think of tihs wha t was there b4 every thing(like god 2 if there is 1 i dont no)i mean every thing has2 have a begining right so what waas there b4 every thing was it just white or black or what i mean there had 2 be nothing at on point in time so what was it like and i mean nothing even science,god and space had 2 have a begining so what was there b4 evey thing u know dude i dont no what the fuck im talkin about im about 2 go get som munchies so c yeas all lada

[LOVElife]

Have to agree with The Brotherhood,Don't allow yourself too much free time alone to smoke, or you end up thinking too much. Thats what gets people into trouble in the first place, THINKING! You start at one point then go into so much depth in your own mind that it becomes worthless. You probably think everybody else must think the same, but they dont!
Remember people:
Don't think too much and don be no fool!

[mellow mood]

wow. u guys are strange. "dont think too much". im not depressed coz i think such things. those are just questions we cant answer. but still im fascinated by em. and actually i do care about everything. thats not coz life has no meaning that im gonna do anything. i found that u have to find a meaning in the nonsense. u know, the goal is just to be happy. thats why i wanna do what i want, and i wont do a shitty job just for the cash. i wanna experience, and taste the life. i love living. thats not coz i could die tomorrow and that would change nothing that im gonna kill me. lol. think of it man. we have to think. its called phylosophics. ive never heard about freud or anybody else depressing coz he was thinkin "too much".

[LOVElife]

TASTE THE LIFE....dude youv'e made 610 posts on this site in just over a year. I may be wrong but seems like you really have been "TASTING THE LIFE"!! Every page has your opinion on, I know this is a comments page but seems like you must be computer'd up all the time!

[mellow mood]

LOL. i have a rate of 1.5 posy per day. u call that computer freak? im like 1 hour a day on comp. cmon man, i mean LOL

[mellow mood]

p.s. u got a highest post rate than me :D

[mellowman420]

post up to 10 posts a day is fine. kids got to learn and believe me school should teach you this drug stuff but because they don't its fun to go here. this website rocks. and its fun to talk to people u share a common bond with. smoking weed alone not good all the time because it can make you to mellow (believe me i've been there just read my name) if you smoke alone all u can do is zone out then fall asleep which is needed sometime but don't make it a habit. but mellowmood i believe that most of that religion shit people try to make u believe is a load of shit! i don't know what is next after life but just live one day at a time but don't do anything illegal. except speed and smoke weed :) see ya mellow mood

[mellow mood]

just read MY name, stealer. LOL jk. yea your right this site is awesome and plus i have a rating of like 1.70/day

peace

[LOVElife]

Yea one common bond thru weed has given us a totally unique experience unavailable from other walks of life

[canna boy420]

Hi folks! sorry, this is more phylosophic thread than activism, but activism posts always stay longer :)

ok, so heres how i think about our existence.

We exist for a limite person only, dont we? i mean, only like 500 persons, maybe more, maybe less, knows you. and if nobody knows u do u actually exist? can we say the planet X54Xcu exists even we have never seen it? so im gettin to my point: in fact, we would like exist only for a limited number of persons.. isnt it strange? and even there, we are the only ones(the humans and the animals) knowing our existence. we are the only one to prove it, and nobody else can say it. in fact we are an inexistent sand grain among a desert almost infinite.

anyway, all this to say, considering the fact we are nothing, or a particle in a universe, we "do" actually exist, but only for us. and again, consdering we are a particle, do we realle have a role to play in this universe? are we here for nothing? do we have a goal? is there really a god? because if there is a god, it has to be infinite, it has to be all, because he couldnt be at a specific place in the immensity of all. that means we are a part of god. but even there, even if we are a part of god, does life really got a meaning, except the one we can find in this nonsense?

anyway, give your toughts, comments. there should be more phylosophical threads here, i like to see others ppl point of view :)

peace Dude i want some of what your smokin

[DonnieDarko]

I can believe that we exist as spirits (souls) and inhabit many different bodies in different time periods .... this could explain things like deja vu / soul mates / ghosts / tragedies where kids die.

It makes alot more sense than souls sitting in hell, burning for eternity, or flying around with wings in heaven.

[mellow mood]

how could it explain tragedies such as a kid dyin?

[DonnieDarko]

When such tragedies happen, we often question the existance of higher powers and the injustice of it all. If spirits (souls) live on and inhabit other bodies then maybe the tragedies are just a mechanism for a soul to transition to another person.

[mellow mood]

why not waiting till his end of his life? plus this bring so much pain to parents, etc...

i dont really believe in this. seriously i think theres no reason to such events. like why would a lot of ppl are born paraplegic, paralysed, etc

[DonnieDarko]

It's hard to disagree with you, but I am open to the "possibility" of reasons for even the most tragic occurances. The basis of most religions is that suffering and death are just a small part of a larger and eternal life. If we deny that possibility, then life is finite and relatively meaningless.

[BlueCat]

Isn't this like if a tree falls and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?
I think things/people exist, regardless of the fact that they or it can or cannot be seen or whether or not it is not know by others. An existence doesn't depend on being seen or sensed in any way it depends on a thing or persons perception of life and reactions to the things around it..

We learn this, as babies. Infants do not understand that things they cannot see, hear or touch, may still exist. This is why babies sometimes cry when their mother leaves the room â?? they think that mother is "gone," for good. When mother reappears to calm them, they're happy again. It takes some time for infants to absorb the fact that things may still exist, even if they can't be sensed.

we can be absolutely certain:
That we exist; otherwise, there wouldn't be anyone to ask do we exist...
and we have experiences, that confirm our existents no matter how small we are in the universe I think we matter and life is what you make it... :)

or did I miss the whole point of the question? :D

space cat

[BlueCat]

Lovelife said it all...your posts alone show you exist....good one Lovelife...

[mellow mood]

yea thats exactly this

but still yes u theorically "exist", but how can you prove it?? many people dont beleive in aliens, so they may not exist, for em in any case. if there are really some aliens evoluated and everything, still they exist only for them. hope u get my point.

oh and donniedarko, yes from my opinion life is meaningless. even if there would be a god, even if we would be spirits, all this comes to an end, and if it does not end, whats the meaning anyway? and thousands of years ago, we were maybe what, 3-4-5 millions on earth. now were almost 7 billions. so if your spirit is changinf from a body to another, what are all the new ones? but yea i really think life is meaningless. i mean we could all die, the whole universe could explode right now, and seriously i really dont see the difference it would make. we are a drop of water in an ocean. if this drop dissapears in the ocean, who will know it anyways? and what would it change?

[BlueCat]

yea thats exactly this

but still yes u theorically "exist", but how can you prove it?? many people dont beleive in aliens, so they may not exist, for em in any case. if there are really some aliens evoluated and everything, still they exist only for them. hope u get my point.

oh and donniedarko, yes from my opinion life is meaningless. even if there would be a god, even if we would be spirits, all this comes to an end, and if it does not end, whats the meaning anyway? and thousands of years ago, we were maybe what, 3-4-5 millions on earth. now were almost 7 billions. so if your spirit is changinf from a body to another, what are all the new ones? but yea i really think life is meaningless. i mean we could all die, the whole universe could explode right now, and seriously i really dont see the difference it would make. we are a drop of water in an ocean. if this drop dissapears in the ocean, who will know it anyways? and what would it change?

you will know it...history will show it in one way or another.....the T rex existed I have never seen one.... Even if the whole universe exploded there would be debris...and who nows who might one day find it? If the big bang happened once why could it not have happened else where or if your a Christian.... God made the heavens and earth...did he say he only put man in one spot? This is pretty deep....Poor Mellow maybe you need a purpose :) ....

[mellow mood]

actually when u have a proof of the existence of something, it automatically exists blue cat, i know bush exist, but i never met him :)

still we dont know if theres somewhere else in the universe some cyborg humanoids concept robot living in a total artificial created planet. it wont exist until we can prove it does :)

and i do believe in big-bang, i do believe the universe is expanding then retracting, so i do beleive universe always existed. but whats the point of the meaning of existence anyway? u can say poor mellow but explain eh. if u can prove me we do actually have a meaning then go ahead, ill be pretty happy to know it.

coz i found, trought my psychologically evolution, (wrar bad spelling), thats the meaning of life is to find a meaning in the nonsense. so yes i could die tomorrow and it would change absolutly nothing, as thousands of ppl die everyday, but my meaning is simply to be happy with the gift i had been given, which is life :)

so im just tryin to be happy, to live my life fully, even knowing it leads nowhere. but explain yourself id like to know where you see a deep meaning in life. :)

peace

[BlueCat]

meaning in life for me is to find a purpose....to leave your mark...no pun intended I am not a tom cat lol
I go to protests when I can...I support and love my kids...I am going to central america soon and work at an orphanage... If my MS stays in check..so its no big project but maybe someone will remember me and that is existense even if it is a small one....
You are talking to a woman who suffers a lot of pain and uses blogs to keep her mind off it....and to try to keep my brain working...see you are serving a purpose your gift of time is your existense.. :) .

[mellow mood]

well thats kool bluecat but still like i said i think u need to find a purpose to existence, even if theres not. but do u agree with me u could make the world 100x better, we would eventually all die and that would change nothing in the universe cept during a small amount of time somewhere in the infinite. anyway lol, my goal in my life is to change few things, to help ppl, so that would bring me happiness. i just want a better world, thats my purpose. but i still know at the very end of all, theres no purpose to nothing.

anyway, lol :)


peace!

[JeffJFromKCMO]

fuck everyonce in a while i smoke alone and i get to thinking about shit like is everything everyone sees just their imagination? how can something so simple as breathing in a burning plant make you feel so good, or drinking some alcohol mess you up like it does? i start thinking some crazy shit, and then i wake up and forget it all so i gotta get more wasted.

[ComfortablyNumb]

**MY FIRST POST** lol

I get what you're saying Mellow Mood, and I totally agree. It's like we're a grain of sand and if we were crushed, who would know or care? I don't believe in a higher being but I do believe in "aliens". It doesn't make sense at all that we are the only beings in the universe.