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Iceberg420
09-04-2010, 06:38 PM
-5 gal. res
-90w dual band ufo
-60 gallon air pump/ 2 air stones
-1 100w equivalent cfl
-miracle grow all purpose 12-4-8 if im not mistaken
-1/4th cup distilled vinegar
-boiled tap water
-ph down daily
-and a bunch of aquarium rocks with micronutrients like calcium, magnesium, sulfur, manganese, boron, zinc, copper, chlorine, etc. Placed at the bottom of res

Plant is an indica dominant bagseed was pretty nice 10 a g, but anyways it was in soil but i transplanted it into this system it killed off all its old growth but its slowly but surely growing a new shoot as we speak its taking FOREVER

any help? :(

tinytoon
09-05-2010, 12:37 PM
Pic would be nice but wth I'll shoot from the hip.
Not enough light or light to far away.
Boiling tap water is prob killing most everything in there so Calmag is prob needed.
Wtf is the vinegar for?
From everything I have heard MG is not the type of nute you want to be using. Get some true nutes.
What's temp like??
What is PH like?? In Hydro if your PH drifts to much you will NOT be succesfull
How old is plant??
I think you should get the idea that you need to provide more so things can be diagnosed.

Iceberg420
09-05-2010, 11:39 PM
Pic would be nice but wth I'll shoot from the hip.
Not enough light or light to far away.
-The ufo was between 12" to 9" away and the cfl was right on it

Boiling tap water is prob killing most everything in there so Calmag is prob needed.
-I started a new res and new plant i used water from my bathroom and aquarium rocks as the medium in a homemade net pot, i'm waiting for this plant's roots to grow into the res

Wtf is the vinegar for?
-Lower PH, micronutrients


From everything I have heard MG is not the type of nute you want to be using. Get some true nutes.
-I'm gonna get a prepaid cred. card and get some... what site(s)/product(s) do you recommend?

What's temp like??
-Beats me, probably around 70 i always add cold water to the res daily


What is PH like?? In Hydro if your PH drifts to much you will NOT be succesfull
-well it used to stay at 7 no matter how much ph down and vinegar i used because of some aqua. rocks i used they have a ph buffer in them, eventually that plant died because the res bubbled because of the vinegar and somethin else

How old is plant??
-it was like 2 weeks old

I think you should get the idea that you need to provide more so things can be diagnosed.

dustoxx420
09-06-2010, 12:27 AM
Yo man you need to use distilled water and i recommend for PH adjustment is any General Hydroponics product having name brand additives is my route

Iceberg420
09-06-2010, 01:40 AM
Alright well next time i get a bean to pop i'll trade it out for distilled... i found some florabloom online i might but it, it has mag in it but no calcium what would be a good way to get some Cal in there? What should i use for veg??? i dont see that big of a prob usin MG with veg?

dustoxx420
09-06-2010, 02:38 AM
Dyna-Grow is a good sterile mineral derived chemical fert. its also has micro fert mixed in, look it up. I used it for years and i think its the best for optimal plant health. both veg and bloom version have the micro additives it has mag and calcium. also please fill this out
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How long has this problem been going on?
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
What STRAIN are you growing?
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
What is the age of your plants?
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
How tall are the plants?
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
What is the Water temperature?
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless)
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?
When was your last watering?
What is your water temps?
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using?
How old is the bulbs you are using?
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
Are plant's infected with pest's

Iceberg420
09-06-2010, 08:10 AM
Whoa I looked up that dyna grow stuff its 5$ for each jug i'm def gonna get it thanks for the suggestion:thumbsup:

but anyways I'm trying to sprout some seeds so I can try and make one of these basterds survive long enough to be able to use nutes... I just upgraded my res i wrapped mylar around it... 2 layers, to make it light proof, but before that i bleached it and i mylar'd my lid so that way i can make this look and perform alot better I'm still wary of this whole "DWC" thing lol:stoned:

Iceberg420
09-06-2010, 06:08 PM
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This is the same exact light i have... lol