Peak Oil

[burgess367]

I'm just curious if anyone here's heard of Peak Oil. This is the idea that world oil production will max out and begin to decline. This will cause oil prices to skyrocket effecting the world's economies. There is lots more but I just want to know if there's gonna be a discussion or further interest.

[2600]

I'm just curious if anyone here's heard of Peak Oil. This is the idea that world oil production will max out and begin to decline. This will cause oil prices to skyrocket effecting the world's economies. There is lots more but I just want to know if there's gonna be a discussion or further interest.

Fossill fuels WILL run out eventually, that's not just an idea. The aftereffects of that (prices, availability, transportation, economy in general) will depend on how far we have advanced alternative energy sources.

[Rarrr]

Yes, but how long do they think we have until oil starts to decline

[burgess367]

New estimates put the peak between 2005-07. Some think it may have already happened others don't predict it until between 2010-2020. i'll put up sources as soon as sort them out.

[Agent Smith]

Peak oil is total Bullshit. This is something being pushed by the media, socialist, & Democrats. Just so they can get better control over your life.
No I'm not some right wing nut worshiping Bush. I just happen to know the Facts. Even liberals and Neo cons who seem trusting are pushing this shit.
If you want to know the truth please Listen to the Alex Jones Radio Show It comes on 12 - 3pm est. & 10 - 1am est M-F on www.PrisonPlanet.com or look on the website for the Radio station in your area.
Sorry for being so blunt,but it is really frustrating to see how many people are buying that shit. Specially with that Socialist Mike Rupert pushing that shit.

[ermitonto]

We don't have nearly enough time to develop alternative energy sources and then convince people to use them and then integrate them into our society to the point where we could avoid disaster when economical petroleum production ends. I for one am looking forward to seeing industrial civilization collapse. I just hope it happens before we perfect genetic engineering and artificial intelligence, because those technologies scare the crap out of me.

[dazedandcontributing]

actually peak oil is not a hoax to scare the americans lol it is happening they, haven't found any new oil "wells" and there scared but of coarse the goverment isn't doing anything my suggestion is if you drive a car start growing 5 soy plants indoors under lights and learn how to make bio deisel i for one prefer the bike and will continue to laugh in everyones face while they pay over a dollar a litre at the pumps oh P.S. be very afraid america is coming for you if you are a producer of the shit

[ezjim]

real soldiers are dying in their hummers so some yuppie a$%&hole's can play soldier in their civilian hummers 10 miles per gallon 2 soldiers per day

[pisshead]

i happen to think peak oil is a bunch of bs. i've read numerous mainstream stories over the years of giant reserves being found, the idea that we'll run out in the next 100 years even is absurd. still, i think we need to find something else to rely on that's a lot cleaner.

it's also a good excuse to make us pay more and more and more and more for oil.

here's an interesting audio interview about peak oil:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2005/120405peakoilscam.htm

[burgess367]

I'm glad this topic is getting some discussion. To refute AgentSmith's argument I haven't seen anything about Peak Oil in any mainstream media outlet. This should be front page stuff. The only things I have found have been European sources and offbeat internet news outlets. Also this is not a partisan issue. You say the Democrats are pushing this, nevermind this wasn't mentioned during the 2004 election year, Republican Congressman Roscoe Bartlett (MD) was interviewed and discussed the importance and immediacy of the Peak Oil problem http://www.energybulletin.net/5429.html ). In 2001 the Secretary of Energy was quoted as saying â??America faces a major energy supply crisis over the next two decades. The failure to meet this challenge will threaten our nationâ??s economic prosperity, compromise our national security, and literally alter the way we lead our lives,â?� ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0113-01.htm ). The Cheif Economist for investment giant Morgan Stanley said that we face a potential economic "armageddon" ( http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112304_economic_armageddon.shtml ). When the world's great money handlers acknowledge an impending disaster it might be time to listen. Smith I will be tuning into your man on prisonplanet.com; its no fun to argue if you don't know what the other side is gonna say. :)

To address pisshead's argument that huge wells keep being discovered. An article published in Scientific American stated that new oil discoveries have been declining steadily since the 1960's. According to the article 90% of the earth's oil has been discovered. (http://dieoff.com/page140.pdf)

[mellow mood]

this event will be the begining of the third mondial war. the begining of the Apocalypse

[burgess367]

AgentSmith and Pisshead: I went to prisonplanet.com and looked into Alex Jones. I watched his documentary Martial Law: 9-11: Rise of the Police State and listened to his take on Peak Oil. After listening to all that and cruising the site I found it really hard to believe much of what he said. I went on to look into his credibility and I couldn't find any major sites that spoke of him at all. One article I found is here: http://www.nndb.com/people/969/000048825/. As a rational person I don't know how you could believe what this guy is saying. I know conspiracy theories are fun and often intriguing but at the heart are usually false. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's wrong too. His claims are very radical. So people don't think I am being too judgmental here is where Alex Jones can be found www.prisonplanet.com and where you can watch the "documentary" http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=independent_news&collectionid=911theRoadtoTyranny .

Peak Oil is a real issue and deserves people's attention.

[burgess367]

P.S. the movie is long as hell, almost 3 hrs.

[Edgar]

Dude im not even gonna watch it. Because for 1 thing the oil peak is a fact(it will happen eventually), its not just some rumor, what would be the point in spreading such a rumor neway? Plus, as burgess said, its hardly ever in the mainstream media. Oil is a limited natural resource like gold and diamonds. Thats what gives it its value, and its that very value that is the major reason we are gonna milk oil for every last bit of its worth. Because oil is cheaper than any fuel that they would have to mass produce.
besides ive already heard enough of those infowars/prisonplanet "conspiracy theories", and for some reason the movie seems to be down temporarily.

[Edgar]

Holy shit i remember that dude (Alex Jones) now from waking life, that was way b4 id ever seen his websites, or knew jack about him. I really liked waking life too, but I thought that dude was just a stereotypical character of an angry conspiracy theorist... =P

Thanks for the site (http://www.nndb.com/people/969/000048825/) Burgess. It jogged my memory. :)

[Agent Smith]

real soldiers are dying in their hummers so some yuppie a$%&hole's can play soldier in their civilian hummers 10 miles per gallon 2 soldiers per day

They are not getting killed because of some yuppie ! They are being killed because someone told them to go into a country that they aren't welcomed and they are getting the results of that. They are not fighting for my freedom. I can fight for my own freedom. They are not fighting for the Iraqi's freedom either. They are fighting because they were told to. So you get what you get when you fight for lies. The Iraqi's had no connection to alCIAda. There were no weapons of mass destruction. There was no urainium from Niger. It was not about Sadam who was put in by the CIA. So if they like to bend over a barrel and get f--ked without KY let them. Don't blame it on some Yuppie

[smokejaguar]

Its not about having enough oil,,but what you will pay for it.The US capped many large oil fields starting in the 30's.Humble for example.They have shut down field in Alaska,Oklahoma,and Texas for starters.These fields will be reopened later to produce more expensive crude,by cheaper means.There is no immediate decline in fossil fuel, just ppl trying to manipulate the market.-usdi Agaluga

[Edgar]

If we have plenty of oil already, why are so many republicans pushing to drill national parks in alaska? It just doesn't add up.