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gold4honey
08-24-2010, 06:28 PM
What is your experience level? Novice

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. 600w Hortilux Super HPS

.2) Distance from tops? About 12 in.

.3) Reflector type? Regular Hydrofarm XXL HOOD (no cover)

.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? NO

.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? YES , air being circulated with 3 osiclating fans

.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600 watt, 2700k, 12/12 (for tha past 9 goin on 10 days)

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. Str8 FOXFARM OCEANS FOREST !!!

.8) Size of container. 4 Gal

.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? YES

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (Distilled)
What's it's ph before adjusting? 5.8

11) Method of checking water ph. (aquarium test kit)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (PH Up and Ph down)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. Sensi Bloom Part A & B one feed one water

14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? i water every 3 to 4 days... 1 time feed then next time water..

15) Any additives or tea's? (Voodoo Juice, Bud Candy, & Liquid Karma.)

16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? i use a test kit so im sure they flucuate...

17) What is your ingoing water's ph? around 6 - 6.5 ...your runoff ph? usually about 5.5

18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? Yes with distilled water mixed with half dose sensi bloom a&b...and i mist them everyday after the light go off...

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? Indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? Closet about 6x6x10
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? around 80 to 85 degrees farenheit and humidity between 35% and 45% ...With lights off? between 70 to 78 degrees farenheit and humidity between 45% and 55%
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? NO!!!

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? DONT KNO ...Bagseed...
24) From seeds or clones? Seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain? NO

bigtopsfinn
08-25-2010, 05:00 AM
Not really sure about the direct cause, but a few things jump out at me...


.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? NO

No intake for fresh air? This is a must.



Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. Str8 FOXFARM OCEANS FOREST !!!

Fox Farm has recently opened a new production facility in South Caroline and people have been reporting problems with it. Are you East of the Rocky Mountains by chance? How did the soil look and smell? Was it light and airy? Did it smell fresh? Always good to add a little extra perlite for better drainage and air to roots.


.8) Size of container. 4 Gal

Container size might be a little too small for a plant from seed. Right about now the roots are trying to stretch.



17) What is your ingoing water's ph? around 6 - 6.5 ...your runoff ph? usually about 5.5

Keep in mind that if the feeding water or run-off have any color or tint it can skew the results of color-coded ph tests. With that said, how long since your last transplant?


18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? Yes with distilled water mixed with half dose sensi bloom a&b...and i mist them everyday after the light go off...

Foliar feeding shouldn't be necessary unless it's to correct a deficiency. I would hold off on that for now until we figure out what's really going on.

I think a transplant into a larger (5gal) container wouldn't hurt at this point (transplanting in flowering is not a big deal, as long as you don't damage the roots). Get some fresh soil with added perlite (about 25-30%).

Personally I'd also lay off the additives and stick with the A+B until she gets healthy again.

WashougalWonder
08-25-2010, 11:55 AM
I think I see 2 things. One is early nitrogen overload. Two is the aluminum foil. Use white on the walls and nothing on the floor. Might add a little cal/mag if this continues, and yes, transplant to fresh pot.

But, I did not notice a problem that is specific. What is your worry? I saw your other post where you were worried after only 9 days in flower, which, by the way, the plant has started the process to flower, should see the flowers soon.

Rusty Trichome
08-25-2010, 01:24 PM
Looks to me like additive overdose and your ingoing water ph is too low.

I'd check for what the Ocean Forest provides nutrient-wise, and check the ingredients on your nutrients and additives, and see if there is some double-dosing happening. Back-off from any redundancies. (unnecessary repeating)
This is one of the main reasons I think that keeping it simple is the best way to grow. The more additives you give to a pre-fertilized medium, the more it will take to determine what's causing your problems.

For peat-based mediums ingoing ph should be between 6.3 and 6.8ish, or you risk nutrient lockout. "around 6 - 6.5" is a big spread, and you should pay close attention to your ph till you get to know your garden. Letting your ph jump around is a good way to stress the nanners out of her. (not a good thing)

If you are starting with a water ph of 6.0 and then you add your nutrients, the ph dives even lower. Try getting the water ph to 6.8 to 7.0 before adding the nutrients.

gold4honey
08-30-2010, 12:52 AM
i really appreciate the info everybody!!!! but my worry or problem is she still isnt budding its been 2 weeks now n i barely, barely see any flower development...i dont interrupt the photoperiod so i dunno wut it could be...im becomin very discouraged...ive been lookin online at 1 week into flowering n everybodys i seen had some type of flowers...n mines has been 2 WEEKS into flowering n the only thing happening is shes getting bigger and bigger...wuts goin on? is this normal?

headshake
08-30-2010, 01:00 AM
each strain is different as well as each grow room setup is different. it will all unfold when it unfolds and not a moment sooner. there is nothing you can do to rush it. you can stunt them though by over-feeding etc.

keep in mind the first 40% of time in flower is spent stretching and the last 60% is when the flowers really put on weight. starting at around day 20 you should see the flower formation pick up.

do as the others say and get your pH/nute issue inline asap.


-shake