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Greenergy
08-22-2010, 02:15 AM
Howdy Folks. Would someone be so kind as to point me in tha direction of some superior genetics. I keep seeing ads for 80 strains available but when you get there its more like 3 and they are overwatered or have bug bites. Please help! :D

copobo
08-22-2010, 02:48 AM
were you just up to that place in Loveland? LOL

pop some beans!

Greenergy
08-22-2010, 02:54 AM
Loveland....HA! howdya know? Does Ned have a seed bank? I went there once for frozen dead guy but didnt get to do any shopping.

Zedleppelin
08-22-2010, 03:05 AM
That place in Loveland sucks? They advertise a pretty impressive list of strains on CL. Couldnt have been any worse than the Clone Store or whatever its called on Ogden, I dont know if I hit them on a bad day or what but they had 2 strains and the plants looked like they were about dead. I'm at the point where I dont trust any clones any more except from a trusted garden. Last year I battled mites for months and now its pm.

copobo
08-22-2010, 03:08 AM
Grateful Meds has TDS/Subcool seeds. I think One Brown Mouse carries Centennial Seeds.

yea that joker in Loveland that advertises on Craigs list is full of shit. he always has an excuse and the few he has looked like crap whenever I've looked in.

I've never spent a cent there!

Greenergy
08-22-2010, 04:32 AM
Thanks Copobo. I think I will hit the mountains tommorrow and chek em out.
I've heard nothing but good things about Grateful Meds.:thumbsup:

Ebbandflowian
08-22-2010, 07:25 PM
can highly reccomend the releaf center in Denver there clones are bug pm free and they are very very knowalgable about the strains they sell

copobo
08-22-2010, 10:29 PM
That place in Loveland sucks? They advertise a pretty impressive list of strains on CL. Couldnt have been any worse than the Clone Store or whatever its called on Ogden, I dont know if I hit them on a bad day or what but they had 2 strains and the plants looked like they were about dead. I'm at the point where I dont trust any clones any more except from a trusted garden. Last year I battled mites for months and now its pm.


I've twice shown up the day they posted '100' strains of clones to find they didn't have shit, and the three strains they had didn't look great at all. don't waste your time.

GratefulMeds
09-01-2010, 08:29 PM
Howdy Folks. Would someone be so kind as to point me in tha direction of some superior genetics. I keep seeing ads for 80 strains available but when you get there its more like 3 and they are overwatered or have bug bites. Please help! :D

We are starting to do cuttings again, call us for a list of what we have but beware it changes daily do to demand.:thumbsup:

cologrower420
09-01-2010, 08:56 PM
Releaf has a couple small clones and a bigger one as of noonish today, they looked decent enough.

Broadway Wellness also had 7 or 8 domes full of clones, as well as bigger plants. They looked good other than a few fruit flies (I think).

Delta9 had some last week as well.

pfunk211
09-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Releaf has a couple small clones and a bigger one as of noonish today, they looked decent enough.

Broadway Wellness also had 7 or 8 domes full of clones, as well as bigger plants. They looked good other than a few fruit flies (I think).

Delta9 had some last week as well.

fungus gnats look like fruit flies, fyi

i hate them fuckers!

cologrower420
09-01-2010, 11:07 PM
fungus gnats look like fruit flies, fyi

i hate them fuckers!

Apparently they were annoying enough that they put a 1" layer of sand at the top of the soil pots to prevent...something. I don't have any idea of growing/pest problems, and I hesitate to criticize broadway wellness. They are solid everywhere else.

pfunk211
09-01-2010, 11:16 PM
Apparently they were annoying enough that they put a 1" layer of sand at the top of the soil pots to prevent...something. I don't have any idea of growing/pest problems, and I hesitate to criticize broadway wellness. They are solid everywhere else.

getting them is as easy as getting a bag of soil.......

getting rid of them, not so much, although i don't think it's as bad as mites or powdery mildew.

if sand doesn't cut them off, soil drench with water that's had a mosquito dunk marinating every three days. two gnats become three million pretty quickly.

SoCoMMJ
09-02-2010, 12:50 AM
if sand doesn't cut them off, soil drench with water that's had a mosquito dunk marinating every three days. two gnats become three million pretty quickly.

or, crush up Dunks [don't breathe the dust] and put 1/4 teaspon on the top of the soil in every pot in the building. It's a biological, so it won't hurt anything but those fkn gnats. Yellow sticky traps to keep tabs on progress... it takes a couple weeks because you are only killing the larvae.

Mine came in Roots Organic.... sigh:cursing:

pfunk211
09-02-2010, 01:17 AM
to get back on point, the best genetics i've worked with came from nederland and/or attitude seeds.

just my experience, but between OBM and GM, i've had some fire come out the garden!

my .02

Greenergy
09-02-2010, 02:24 AM
Sprinkle Diatomaceous Earth on top of soil or coco fiber about 1/2" thick then water bucket until it starts bleeding out bottom. This stuff slices up the gnat larvae that are eating the plants roots. Its like little razor blades. Then lay out a few sticky traps for the adults. works like a charm within days. coco fiber attracts these little pests! :thumbsup:

Greenergy
09-02-2010, 02:32 AM
We are starting to do cuttings again, call us for a list of what we have but beware it changes daily do to demand.:thumbsup:

Grateful Meds, have you grown all of the clones you sell all the way to flower to make sure they dont hermie. I have gotten 3 strains from different places around town that hermaphrodited towards the end. That is such a gut wrenching feeling to watch perfect organic fire start popping out bananas everywhere! It was not heat stress because I installed a minisplit the last go around and the same 3 strains hermied again. If you have solid proven genetics I want them please.

copobo
09-02-2010, 03:00 AM
if you are having that luck with hermies you should look for a something causing them stress.

usually, light stress...

could be a light on a power strip or other device, an alarm sensor, under the door... visit your plants just after the lights go out. sit there for a couple minutes in the dark, and see if you don't find some light.

or, you just had some bad luck w/genetics. seems like allot of bad luck tho-

Greenergy
09-02-2010, 03:17 AM
if you are having that luck with hermies you should look for a something causing them stress.

usually, light stress...

could be a light on a power strip or other device, an alarm sensor, under the door... visit your plants just after the lights go out. sit there for a couple minutes in the dark, and see if you don't find some light.

or, you just had some bad luck w/genetics. seems like allot of bad luck tho-

There are a couple of small red lights on my C.A.P. controller but I seriously doubt it is putting off enough lumens to stress the plants. It was also the same 3 strains two cycles in a row. I had 12 strains going at once and these 3were the only 3 that hermied both times. I have a panda film curtain blocking light from door. Ive always heard if you take seeds from a hermaphroditic strain and grow them out the offspring seeds and clones will also go Lola.
Pretty sure this is what happened. I guess 3 out of twelve is pretty shitty luck.

copobo
09-02-2010, 03:36 AM
my cap controller (newly purchased, a few months ago) has green lights...

just a thought. I've tried a ton of clones in the last year, and never got a hermie - tho I did get 1 from seed.

I picked up some seeds, and there were some feminized freebies thrown in, which I haven't popped yet. I've been thinking (worried) about what you are talking about, so I'm not negating the possibility... 30% seems high even for genetics.

certainly different strains have different tollerences for different stresses, so all else being equal, I would expect herms to re-appear crop-to-crop due to the right conditions, as much as due to genetics.

I am NO expert, LOL

Greenergy
09-02-2010, 03:54 AM
my cap controller (newly purchased, a few months ago) has green lights...

just a thought. I've tried a ton of clones in the last year, and never got a hermie - tho I did get 1 from seed.

I picked up some seeds, and there were some feminized freebies thrown in, which I haven't popped yet. I've been thinking (worried) about what you are talking about, so I'm not negating the possibility... 30% seems high even for genetics.

certainly different strains have different tollerences for different stresses, so all else being equal, I would expect herms to re-appear crop-to-crop due to the right conditions, as much as due to genetics.

I am NO expert, LOL

My C.A.P. controller has red lights. not the best spectrum for plants at night time. I think I will put some electrical tape over the lights to be safe. Thanks for the tip.

BreckLoft
09-02-2010, 01:55 PM
FWIW we're gonna be carrying centennial seeds soon, but being as we don't have them yet I don't see what's to stop you from contacting them directly! ;)

Just a thought - they're a very cool bunch.

Regarding hermies. You should never breed with em. That being said there are quite a few varieties with the tendency to hem that are very good, you just have to be very careful.

I personally condemn feminized seeds pretty hard as well. There not really feminized imho, just a bunch of predominantly female hermaphrodites really...:cool:

VapedG13
09-02-2010, 07:34 PM
I have grown alot of fem and regular seeds.....I have had great success with Female seeds

Anytime I got nanners it was cause I had a light leak......Dutch Master Reverse helps out if you a hermie problem :hippy:

Seeds are like christmas presents... you never know whats inside until you open the package:D

GratefulMeds
09-02-2010, 11:28 PM
Grateful Meds, have you grown all of the clones you sell all the way to flower to make sure they dont hermie. I have gotten 3 strains from different places around town that hermaphrodited towards the end. That is such a gut wrenching feeling to watch perfect organic fire start popping out bananas everywhere! It was not heat stress because I installed a minisplit the last go around and the same 3 strains hermied again. If you have solid proven genetics I want them please.

I would say for the most part yes I have grown them to flower(over 90% at least), we also had some issues with some of our strains popping bananas Sour D and some of the TGA strains come to mind, but it was heat and light stress issues in my mind although those strains did not seem to tolerate these stresses where other strains under the exact conditions did. I still grow the ones that did pop bananas and have had a couple of runs with everything coming out perfect, so again I believe it's more stress then strain.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

pfunk211
09-03-2010, 12:37 AM
I would say for the most part yes I have grown them to flower(over 90% at least), we also had some issues with some of our strains popping bananas Sour D and some of the TGA strains come to mind, but it was heat and light stress issues in my mind although those strains did not seem to tolerate these stresses where other strains under the exact conditions did. I still grow the ones that did pop bananas and have had a couple of runs with everything coming out perfect, so again I believe it's more stress then strain.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

i've had issues with the sour d and bananas in the past (sour d from grateful meds). just cut a batch and must have fixed the problem- at 10 weeks, not a yellow som'bitch in sight, with heat and light being the issues i tackled before this last round, both.

and, if you're lucky enough to be there when mark/mike (i don't know what's going on up there anymore....) has some cuttings of that lady, GRAB ONE! seriously, man, best strain in my garden. super lemon haze is coming soon, though, and i have super high hopes........

copobo
09-03-2010, 02:10 AM
I got some super lemon haze from ghs. I hope they are the real deal!

I am trying to pop more seeds and do some pollen chucken from here on out.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Greenergy
09-03-2010, 03:03 AM
I got a Wrecka clone from The Farm that turned out to be Fkn incredible. Afgooey x Train Wreck. This stuff definitely takes the pain away:rasta:

I have Cheese and Blue Berry and was thinking of pollenating with a sandwich bag. Has anyone heard of this mixture before?

What are some new and interesting hybrids that havent been done yet?

GratefulMeds
09-03-2010, 06:45 PM
i've had issues with the sour d and bananas in the past (sour d from grateful meds). just cut a batch and must have fixed the problem- at 10 weeks, not a yellow som'bitch in sight, with heat and light being the issues i tackled before this last round, both.

and, if you're lucky enough to be there when mark/mike (i don't know what's going on up there anymore....) has some cuttings of that lady, GRAB ONE! seriously, man, best strain in my garden. super lemon haze is coming soon, though, and i have super high hopes........

Talk with Mike, Mark's invisible:D!