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G13budsmoker
08-19-2010, 05:47 AM
well its about time to renew my card(i know, you dont technicaly need a renewal, but its a small price to pay for a piece of mind from LEO) and im just wondering what you guys think of the Washington State Cannabis Group? what realy caught my attention was that it stated this "The doctors at The Washington State Cannabis Group stand behind every patient they authorize and will go to court to defend the authenticity of your authorization."... just wondering how many out their use them. they seem to be $100 cheaper then THCF.
also hear that paul the owner of thcf isnt even a MD, i thought that the owner of a clinic had to be a practicing MD? anyone care to clear this up for me?
jackmillions
08-19-2010, 08:07 AM
"The doctors at The Washington State Cannabis Group stand behind every patient they authorize and will go to court to defend the authenticity of your authorization
As written, that quote says they will testify that the authorization you possess is real.
It does not say they will offer any testimony regarding your qualifying condition, or the appropriateness of MMJ for your specific situation.
Might be worth talking to them, to make sure they will help in your defense in a more significant manner than just saying "yes that's a real authorization that we issued."
gypski
08-19-2010, 03:59 PM
To have a condition that has a non-expiring authorization signed by a licensed Washington State doctor, and then be terrorized into paying a yearly renewal fee is beyond the pale. If you have your medical records up to date, stand your ground. You are legal under the language of the law. Down with State sponsored terrorism of MMJ Patients. :D
edit: If you are terrorized in renewing a not needed renewal, that is extortion. :thumbsup:
G13budsmoker
08-19-2010, 05:06 PM
To have a condition that has a non-expiring authorization signed by a licensed Washington State doctor, and then be terrorized into paying a yearly renewal fee is beyond the pale. If you have your medical records up to date, stand your ground. You are legal under the language of the law. Down with State sponsored terrorism of MMJ Patients. :D
edit: If you are terrorized in renewing a not needed renewal, that is extortion. :thumbsup:
GOD DAMN I HATE AMERICA....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
sorry i feel better now lol. this shit is realy pissing me off, i cant believe the idiocricy of this fucking country. the so called "government" fucking contridicts itself with fucking everything...."marijuana does not have any medicinal values"....yet "anyone with a medical condition can use MEDICAL marijuana".....WTF, ITS ALL FUCKING MARIJUANA. their is no difference. the only difference is the STUPID, IGNORANT fucks that this world is filled with, and the actual fucking REALISTS who have to sit back and witness all this fucking STUPID mayham. why should a mj authorization every expire in the first place? its a "chronic" condition, not an "acute" condition. and why the hell do we let a fictisious thing like the "government" run who you are and everything you are and are not allowed to do? im sorry but im a "big boy" now and i know right from wrong. i dont need a fake baby sitter here to hold my hand in life and hold my dick while i take a fucking piss.
^ pissed off me......
well back to the OP. i will try the cannabis group because an authorization is an authorization, period. and if i have to show LEO both my expired THCF card and a renewal card, so be it, if they want to be stupid and fuck with me then, well then we will have to play a lil game in court. and we all know, you dont even need a damn renewal.
that being said....peace, im out.
G13Budsmoker
killerweed420
08-19-2010, 06:12 PM
It all boils down to whether you want to take on the government in court. You might be a little safer with an up to date authorization but not really by much. If the thugs come knocking on your door it won't really matter what you have in the way of documentation, they'll just drag your ass into court.
All you have to prove in court is whether you have a valid qualifying condition, the authorization won't mean much if your doctor didn't adequately put the qualifying condition in his chart notes. In this day and age both you and your doctor have to be attorneys to protect yourself from oppression.
justpics
08-19-2010, 08:55 PM
patients have been found guilty specifically because they did not have an up to date authorization.
given that fact, why would anyone risk not renewing?
killerweed420
08-19-2010, 11:26 PM
Because people have been falsely convicted even with the authorization.
If you end up in a corrupt courtroom it doesn't really matter what evidence you have. If the police say you're guilty, you're guilty.
justpics
08-20-2010, 12:47 AM
and if they were convicted specifically because of something they did which could be interpreted either way under the law, and they chose wrong, would you make the same choice as them, knowing their fate?
I would not.
G13budsmoker
08-20-2010, 12:47 AM
well i did not have luck with the washington state cannabis group. aparently chart notes are not chart notes if they come from an "E-R" MD....i dont know who would go see their "primary care provider" aka family doctor when you get into big MVA that realy fucked you up... i was taken to the hospital because the ER is the only thing open at 1:30 in the morning.
i was even told "yeah, you have a qualifing condition obviously, and yes these are signed by an actual MD"-"but because its not your primary physician who signed them, we cant accept". how is that not enough? someone please explain why the hospitals notes would not qualify. when i would visit the clinic that would be my so called "primary whatever", they would only send me up to the hospital anyways because they dont have all the fancy equipment the hospital does and thats where they have the tests done on you, when i would visit for pain. so its not like i have chart notes through the "primary".
makes no fucking sense to me, but hey no big deal, its done and i still got my renewal today since i made it in time to THCF.
justpics
08-20-2010, 12:55 AM
if you have a qualifying condition with medical records that indicate it, I can't see any legit reason for them not to accept you.
Unless you are using an ER visit for an injury (broken back) which caused you to develop a qualifying condition (chronic intractable pain limited for the chapter to mean pain unrelieved by standard...). Then your original ER visit wouldn't technically be showing a qualifying condition, which still wouldn't explain their reasoning because she said your papers showed you did qualify.
killerweed420
08-20-2010, 04:55 PM
well i did not have luck with the washington state cannabis group. aparently chart notes are not chart notes if they come from an "E-R" MD....i dont know who would go see their "primary care provider" aka family doctor when you get into big MVA that realy fucked you up... i was taken to the hospital because the ER is the only thing open at 1:30 in the morning.
i was even told "yeah, you have a qualifing condition obviously, and yes these are signed by an actual MD"-"but because its not your primary physician who signed them, we cant accept". how is that not enough? someone please explain why the hospitals notes would not qualify. when i would visit the clinic that would be my so called "primary whatever", they would only send me up to the hospital anyways because they dont have all the fancy equipment the hospital does and thats where they have the tests done on you, when i would visit for pain. so its not like i have chart notes through the "primary".
makes no fucking sense to me, but hey no big deal, its done and i still got my renewal today since i made it in time to THCF.
A lot of the dispensaries are using some stupid criteria for selling to patients. Some don't even recognize a signed notarized authorization form.lol
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