first grow-Nirvana Snow White- soil

[SoHigh420]

im new to growing anything.... let alone cannabis...lol but so far its been so much fun i think i found my new hobby:thumbsup:
anyways right now my plants just started their 4th week since popping soil.
Seeds are Fem. Nirvana Snow white. Germed in and still in Fafards starter mix. will be transplanting soon into a mix of peat moss, vermiculite, perlite and lime.
they are pretty small for their age...right around 4 inches. i was using 4 26w CFLs(for 5 plants) up until yesterday.... then switched to 600w HPS cooltube, same light cycle-20/4
i have 2 424 cfm 6" inline fans for both intake and exhaust(attached to the light w/ one end open)
am using general hydroponics ph control kit to monitor ph and botanicare pure blend pro grow, bloom, and liquid karma for nutes.
the biggest problem im having is the heat. georgia summers are pretty hot and my grow room stays around 82-86 F.:(

im gonna try and make the best of it though and hope i get some good buds in the end.

PLEASE feel free to post any tips and advice as this is my first grow and im sure im gonna fuck something up, not intentionally of course:D

heres a pic:
will post more of the setup later

http://boards.cannabis.com/images/attach/jpeg.gif

[bigsby]

That's a lot of fan you have there. How big is your room?

[SoHigh420]

That's a lot of fan you have there. How big is your room?

dimensions are 16(L)x6 1/2(W)x10(H)

im not actually USING all of the space but the room is pretty big for what i need

[bigsby]

Oh it's a good sized room. Fans size are definitely in the right range.

[SoHigh420]

first pic is the intake fan... sucks because the "fresh air" isnt so fresh... it comes from the garage

2nd exhaust

3rd and on is the plants:

[SoHigh420]

theres one more but i lost the pic to it lol
i have a couple bagseed plants bout a week old growin with the bunch. some good mid grade so i figured why not see if i can get some girls:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

just transplanted last night.... such a pain in the ass!
the leaves on some of the plants are curling up....
anybody know what my problem is? i think its cuz its so hot in the room.
i might just say screw this operation and move into a bathroom upstairs w/ ac and a window.
anyway heres some pics

[SoHigh420]

last one

[neceros]

Curling up leaves means they are too hot.

[SoHigh420]

how long after transplanting can i expect to see new growth?
i transplanted the plants a couple days ago and havent seen anything new yet.
i figured the plants were getting settled in their new pots and focusing on roots.
is this true? sorry im just kinda impatient lol
its coming to the end of their 4th week and they still are around 6 inches.
i want to flower them so bad but i dont want to regret flipping them too early.
thanks for any help.

[deserthealer]

Give the poor babies some water... and tell them what pretty little things they are! They need at the least another lunar cycle to get strong and grow enough to give you what you want of them. If you start now letting them know how much you appreciate what they will do for you, they'll do it better... :upsidedow

[SoHigh420]

ummmmm... okay thanks for the advise ....

[neceros]

Uh, yeah. What he means is let them get acclimate a bit before you do anything else. Transplanting can be shocking to them.

[SoHigh420]

ya thats what i thought... lol i thought i might of had a lil ph prob because when i transplanted them i used straight up tap water and leaves were starting to yellow a bit. stupid mistake cuz the tap ph is like 8.5 so i flushed them out with some ph adjusted water. hopefully it helped them out a bit.

[SoHigh420]

ok so i just switched the lights to 12/12
did a lil LST'ing before so hopefully the stretching from the reduced light helps with it.
ill be back in a couple weeks with pics for those who are interested:wtf:
lol alot of times i feel like im alone but ive noticed on other threads more ppl come around when theres buds to see;)

[neceros]

Keep posting.

[SoHigh420]

ok well i actually started the flowering cycle the following day after i said i did.
i didnt really do soo much LST i just tied back a couple branches of the plant i FIM'd .
The plants have grown about 2-3 inches since i started flowering and they all look pretty good except for one.
shes really hot her leaves are curling up all over. i went and got some dry ice and put it in cups of water cuz i read that co2 helps plants cope better with heat stress.
i just hope i dont find any balls on them:wtf:
anyways ill get to the pics:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

group shot

[SoHigh420]

having a lil problem with the top leaves on my best plant:(
posted a thread in the plant problems section w/ troubleshooting form if anyone would be so kind to check it out and offer some help;)

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/189256-top-leaves-yellow-includes-troubleshooting-form.html#post2134629

[bigtopsfinn]

Hey man I think you're doing the right things here. Don't get discouraged if not a lot of people comment early on, you got 186 views in less than 2 weeks so not bad ;)

Next time think about running the light at night (if you're not already), helps with the temps :thumbsup:

I'll be watching :jointsmile:

[SoHigh420]

Hey man I think you're doing the right things here. Don't get discouraged if not a lot of people comment early on, you got 186 views in less than 2 weeks so not bad ;)

Next time think about running the light at night (if you're not already), helps with the temps :thumbsup:

I'll be watching :jointsmile:


ya i am lol
the temps have started to go down actually. theyre on from 12 am to 12 pm and i went in there before the lights went off (which is usually the hottest because the length of time theyve been on) and it was 82 degrees:D
still not ideal but better than 86/87

[SoHigh420]

heres some pics of the plants 5 days in 12/12

[SoHigh420]

well today was an eventful day
found a couple of praying mantis outside and brought them in the growroom for some all natural pest control. i have an ongoing battle with little beetles and crickets.
not sure if they eat them so if anyone knows that they dont let me know so i can release them back into the wild lol:jointsmile:

onto my problems...
this really isnt anything related to my grow log but im having MAJOR problems with wolf spiders.
they are freaking the old lady out somethin serious. anybody know a remedy to get rid of those little fuckers?

i found one outside my back door and she had a shit load of babies on her back. i soaked them all in lysol cleaner and stomped out the mom.

then i come inside and see one of the cats is in "hunt mode" so i look and see what hes tryna creep up on and it was ANOTHER big ass wolf spider with another shit load of babies on her back. mind you they were right next to my bed!!!! my girls scared shitless to go to sleep tonight.

of course i stomped them out but does anybody know what i can do to keep them at bay? as in out and away from my house?

i tried spider spray and all that crap and nothing seems to work.

and to top it all off im having a problem with the plumbing. i think a pipes clogged or something cuz when the upstairs shower is on the downstairs toilet and bathtub overflow with dirty ass water.

its not shit water so i dont think the septic tank is backing up.

aaahhhhh so many problems and so little know how.....FML:(

[SoHigh420]

heres some pics of the plants. 1 week down and i think all of them are going to gow pretty decent buds/ im already starting to see flowers forming here and ther, mainly on the plant i fim'd but the camera sux so you cant really tell in the pictures

[SoHigh420]

more pics

[SoHigh420]

just a few more

[bigtopsfinn]

Looking good :thumbsup:

They should fill in that space nicely.

[SoHigh420]

Looking good :thumbsup:

They should fill in that space nicely.

thanks for the input Finn:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

am i tripping???? in the last post with pics i see advertisements where my pics are supposed to be:wtf:
then i click them and see my pics....wtf is goin ?!?!?! :gunfighter2:

[SoHigh420]

FIM'd plant is producing alot better than the others. 4 of 5 have shown sex. the big bushy one in the middle still hasn't shown anything yet. unless im not looking correctly:wtf:
any way heres some pics.
comments and feedback is appreciated:thumbsup: thanks for looking

[SoHigh420]

few more

[neceros]

FYI:
Upturned leaves like that mean they are too warm.

[SoHigh420]

FYI:
Upturned leaves like that mean they are too warm.

yea i know but theres absolutely no way i can fix that at the moment. cant afford a portable a/c so im hoping now that summers over the temps will start cooling down. the average temp has already gone down a few degrees(from 87 to 82) which im thankful for. only thing i can do is give it more time and hope it cools down a little more.
Thanks for the input though:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

anybody else?
i have another problem id like to get advice about./ i get this white powdery film on top of the soil and the drain holes in the grow bags i have i can see it too. seems like everywhere thats exposed to open air gets it. is it salt buildup? someone told me that could be the cause and i flushed but its still there. ill take pictures when the lights come on. i havent really noticed it effecting the plants in a negative way but it just doesnt seem normal.

[bigtopsfinn]

Do you have really hard water? Lime buildup maybe?

[canniwhatsis]

yea i know but theres absolutely no way i can fix that at the moment. cant afford a portable a/c so im hoping now that summers over the temps will start cooling down. the average temp has already gone down a few degrees(from 87 to 82) which im thankful for. only thing i can do is give it more time and hope it cools down a little more.
Thanks for the input though:thumbsup:

Even at 87* that kind of curling isn't right,... My outdoor plant has been exposed to temps over 100* and the leaves never looked like that!


Something else is going on,.... plants will do weird things if PH is off, or if they're treated with hormones to increase growth.

It's hard to diagnose issues without ALL the info,....


So here,... Copy and paste the first post of this link into this thread, answer all questions honestly.

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/173775-cancom-copy-n-paste-troubleshooting-forms.html

[SoHigh420]

here ya go:thumbsup:
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) FIRST TIME

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) 600W hps
.2) Distance from tops? 18-24 INCHES
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)batwing
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES BUT NOT THE FRESHEST
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?YES
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600W hps DON KNOW THE DETAILS JUS SWITCHED TO 12/12 8-9 DAYS AGO

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) HOMEMADE MIX--PEAT MOSS, PERLITE, VERMICULITE, WITH LIME FOR PH BUFFER
.8) Size of container. 5GAL GROW BAGS W/ TOP ROLLED DOWN TO MAKE THEM 3 GAL
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? FAFARDS SEED STARTERMIX

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?TAP-PH IS 8+ BEFORE ADJUSTING
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) GH TEST KIT
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...) PH UP & PH DOWN
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. PUREBLEND PRO GROW FORMULA-3-2-4, BLOOM-1-4-5, LIQUID KARMA 0.1-0.1-0.5 1/4 BLOOM + ABOUT 9ML LIQUID KARMA (JUST SWITCHED FROM GROW) FLUSHED FIRST
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? havent watered in a week. bags are still a lil waterheavy
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)NONE
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? fluctuate between6-6.5
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? IN:6-6.5 OUT:6
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? NEVER

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? INDOORS
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 16(L)x6 1/2(W)x10(H)
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?ON: 82-86 RH 40-50% OFF:80-82
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? crickets from time to time but i have them handled. found a scorpion in the room the other day

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) Nirvana Snow White feminized
24) From seeds or clones? seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain? NO

[SoHigh420]

Do you have really hard water? Lime buildup maybe?

not sure. i added 2 tblspoons lime per gallon of peat. some expert somewhere told me that. hope it was good info

[SoHigh420]

the ph of the water and soil are ideal. but do you think it could hapen from over watering? when i transplanted i u str8 tap to moisten the soil and figured id let it dry before watering with ph'd water. but they started looking grim so i flushed with ph'd water. now the soil is drying out alot better and this white film is getting on my nerves. im now starting to think this white powdery shit might be causing the leaves to act this way **note not all palnts are doing this, just that one

[SoHigh420]

here we are 12 days in and all the plants except one are showing flowers. the ont that isnt is the one with curled leaves. i know its a girl cus ive seen the pistils on the nodes while checking for sex. its jus not budding:mad:
heres some pics:

[SoHigh420]

i got pretty stoned last night and was holding a plant and was sliding back to find my bucket that i sit on and completely missed it and fell:bigsmoke:
the plants ok....i hope hahaha it was the first time id smoked anything in like a month and this was some pretty good shit:thumbsup:
the guy was even nice enough to throw me a nug:D

[bigtopsfinn]

The lime build-up I was referring to was from your water source. Hard water has a lot of lime in it, so if you spilled some water and let it evaporate, you'd see this white residue left behind. I'm no water expert, but with a starting ph of 8.0, it could be all the lime making it that high, or then something else. Anyways I don't think you'll have a problem, I had white residue on my soil before (from hard water).

[SoHigh420]

The lime build-up I was referring to was from your water source. Hard water has a lot of lime in it, so if you spilled some water and let it evaporate, you'd see this white residue left behind. I'm no water expert, but with a starting ph of 8.0, it could be all the lime making it that high, or then something else. Anyways I don't think you'll have a problem, I had white residue on my soil before (from hard water).

i dont think thats it. ive spilled the water on hardwood floors and shit and never saw a white residue, but if that is the case and the water has a lot of lime in it than what does that mean as far as the plant?? like are they gonna die?:what:

[bigtopsfinn]

i dont think thats it. ive spilled the water on hardwood floors and shit and never saw a white residue, but if that is the case and the water has a lot of lime in it than what does that mean as far as the plant?? like are they gonna die?:what:

From the looks of it, nah :D

But I would think about transplanting into 5 gals if you already didn't, just to get some fresh ph balanced soil in there.

[canniwhatsis]

It could be salt build up from the nutes. I'm not sure if salt build up on the roots could be a problem. Are you feeding every watering?



Your girls look pretty healthy over all, as for not making "Buds" it's only day 12 of around 70. Give em another week or 6 ;)

[SoHigh420]

From the looks of it, nah :D

But I would think about transplanting into 5 gals if you already didn't, just to get some fresh ph balanced soil in there.

i put them in their current pots about 3 1/2 weeks ago, wasnt planning on transplanting again til about halfway through flower. i dont think i put enough perlite in the soil cuz when it dries it gets hard like clay and the water doesnt penetrate it like i would want it too.... the plants are only a little over a foot tall in the 3 gal bags. i contemplated whether or not i wanted to finish in these bags but i dont want the lime to wear out and give me ph problems right near the end... i hate these bags cuz i cant just pop em off to take a look at the roots. next time im deff. usin pots lol

[SoHigh420]

It could be salt build up from the nutes. I'm not sure if salt build up on the roots could be a problem. Are you feeding every watering?



Your girls look pretty healthy over all, as for not making "Buds" it's only day 12 of around 70. Give em another week or 6 ;)

i feed them every other watering, which is about once a week. non feeding days just water and molassas.

IMO they look pretty good for 12 days in. all have pistils shooting out of everywhere except that one runt. im thinking bout just chopping her but then again ive heard so many stories of the runts turning out to be the best yeilder. just wish i knew what was causing the leaves to curl. theyve been doing that since they were seedlings thou so idk.

thanks for the input guys:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

ok so for some dumb reason i switched my timer to the on position and forgot to turn it back to the timer:(
so the plants got 2 hours and 40 minutes of extra light...
im 13 days into flowering and worried now
it this gonna give me hermies? or will it be ok if it just happened once?

[SoHigh420]

anyone?

[canniwhatsis]

That's not good,... but it's more when it happens regularly that it becomes a problem.


try not taking the timer off of auto ;) When the lights shut off,... it's time to get out.

[SoHigh420]

2 weeks into flowering:

[SoHigh420]

having a bug problem with millipedes getting in my room. should i spray some insecticide around the entry points and little crevices? would it hurt the plants?
any advice?

[SoHigh420]

all is looking pretty good so far:thumbsup:
almost 3 weeks down and 4-6 to go:D
i cant wait to smoke these lil fukkers hahahaha

[TurboNugs]

Looking good man:thumbsup:

[SoHigh420]

Looking good man:thumbsup:

thanks man:thumbsup:
its funny i was just looking at your grow and i come back and you posted here:jointsmile:

[Zone420]

i got pretty stoned last night and was holding a plant and was sliding back to find my bucket that i sit on and completely missed it and fell:bigsmoke:
the plants ok....i hope hahaha it was the first time id smoked anything in like a month and this was some pretty good shit:thumbsup:
the guy was even nice enough to throw me a nug:D

Glad to hear you got hooked up! ;)

[CannabisCorp]

What's going on?!

WE WANT MORE PICS MAN! :hippy:

[cturner1984]

any more info or pics? im doing this next?