Denver City Ordinance to ban caregivers

[COzigzag]

I received this email from Sensible Colorado. I can't find anything on their website to reference this or any information on the Denver City Website. If somebody has additional information will you please share it?

Thank you!

Email Received from Sensible Colorado:
On Monday August 9th, the Denver City Council will hear a first reading of an ordinance to BAN caregivers from growing medical marijuana for any patient in any residential zone district. The ordinance will make it a zoning violation for anyone to grow more than 12 plants in any residential zone district. In addition, the 12 plants can only be grown for patients who live at that address. This ordinance will effectively ban the caregiver model of safe access in Denver!

It gets worse.....


Ordinance C10-0607 is being introduced by Councilmember Jeanne Robb, who admits that she did not consult a single patient during the drafting process!

The ordinance will be heard for a first reading on Monday night at 5:30p. If it passes first reading, a public hearing will be scheduled for sometime in September, along with a final vote.

Please call you city council representative TODAY and tell them to vote NO on Ordinance C10-0607. The city council should send the ordinance back to the drawing board and draft an ordinance that regulates - not bans - small time caregivers in Denver.

Important Targets:
Councilwoman Jeanne Robb: 303 377 1807
Councilman Chris Nevitt: 720 865 8900
Councilwoman Carla Madison: 303 298 7641

Message: Please vote NO on C10-0607. This change will hurt medical marijuana patients who rely on small caregivers to provide them with low cost medicine. Please don't act to limit patient access to medicine in Denver!

[HighPopalorum]

Seems unnecessarily punitive to me. Plant limits and zoning restrictions are fine and dandy, but the requirement that the patient live at the same address is problematic, to my mind. I'm sure there are a lot of patients who cannot grow at their own addresses, even if they engage the services of a caregiver.

[FlyinPolynesian]

More examples of these capitol hill ass clowns trying to control everything and assert their ever so proud "civil duty to the people" what a fucking pathetic crock of shit this drama has turned out to be.

[blackhash]

Can a municipality or county zone AWAY someone's Constitutional Right?

[mustangwomyn]

Thats crazy, I no longer live in Denver or I would be emailing daily.

Thats equivalent to telling someone they can't grow more than 12 Tomato plants in Their yard, geez whats next ???
:(

[Denvertoad]

This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13 (http://www.denvergov.org/citycouncil/DenverCityCouncil/tabid/436352/mid/489055/newsid489055/4148/Default.aspx)


This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13
This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13

* Monday, August 9: Public hearing on the enactment of 3 new zone districts and changing the zoning classification for 4725 High St.; first reading of CB10-0607 restricting growing of medical marijuana in residential districts and uses; final consideration of CB10-0612 requiring certain city contractors to confirm lawful employent status of their employees at the regular City Council meeting (5:30 pm, City Council Chambers)
* Tuesday, August 10: Sale of City parcel at 10th & Osage to Denver Housing Authority at the Land Use, Transporation, & Infrastructure Committee meeting (11:00am, Council Committee Room 391)
* Wednesday, August 11: 2010-2011 Pre-budget discussions: Technology Services and Environmental Health at Government Affairs & Finance Committee meeting (10:30 am, Council Committee Room 391)


Meeting Schedule

Posted on Aug 06, 2010

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[SprngsCaregiver]

Wow :mad: absolutly rediculous! I don't live in Denver but you can be sure if it passes there other cities will follow.

I think it's going to take a 100,000 patient march to fix all this BS that they're trying to push on us.

[Colodonmed]

SECTION 11.8.4 GARDEN
11.8.4.1 All Zone Districts
In all Zone Districts, where permitted with limitations:
A. A garden shall be maintained, including necessary watering, pruning, pest control, and removal
of dead or diseased plant material.
B. Detached accessory structures incidental to the garden use, such as accessory storage or utility
buildings, gazebos, trellis, or accessory greenhouse structures, are permitted subject to compliance
with all applicable building form standards in the subject zone district.
C. The growing of medical marijuana shall comply with the following:
1. No more than 6 plants may be grown for each patient registry identification card holder
residing in a dwelling unit, not to exceed 12 plants per dwelling unit.
2. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall occur within a completely enclosed
structure.
3. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall not occur in a common area associated
with the dwelling unit.
4. Growing shall be for personal use only by patient registry identification card holders
residing in the dwelling unit; retail or wholesale sales of goods or products derived from
the growing of medical marijuana and any off-site distribution of such plants or derived
products are prohibited.
11.8.4.2 All Residenti al Zone Districts
In a Residential Zone District, where permitted with limitations:
A. Retail or wholesale sales of goods or products derived from the accessory a garden use accessory
to a primary residential use are prohibited in a Residential Zone District.
SECTION 11.8.5 GREENHOUSE
11.8.5.1 All Zone Districts
In all zone districts, where permitted with limitations:
A. The growing of medical marijuana shall comply with the following:
1. No more than 6 plants may be grown for each patient registry identification card holder
residing in a dwelling unit, not to exceed 12 plants per dwelling unit.
2. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall occur within a completely enclosed
structure.
3. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall not occur in a common area associated
with the dwelling unit.
4. Growing shall be for personal use only by patient registry identification card holders
residing in the dwelling unit; retail or wholesale sales of goods or products derived from
the growing of medical marijuana and any off-site distribution of such plants or derived
products are prohibited.

[Colodonmed]

http://www.denvergov.org/sirepub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=32341

Damn, what a crock!!

[TheAllDayToker]

This is B.S....I think you're right Springs...we've got to do something!

[blackhash]

Thats crazy, I no longer live in Denver or I would be emailing daily.

Thats equivalent to telling someone they can't grow more than 12 Tomato plants in Their yard, geez whats next ???
:(

E mail em anyway, the bastards!

To me, this is like saying that no matter how many REGISTERED VOTERS live in a residence that RESIDENCE COLLECTIVELY can only cast 2 votes in an election!

Bullshit. These are INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS and they are linked to medical records and those kinda of protections too!! Dumbasses!

So this begs the question. How many of you would ABIDE by such an ordinance?

if I had a rocket launcher

[SprngsCaregiver]

Seems unnecessarily punitive to me. Plant limits and zoning restrictions are fine and dandy, but the requirement that the patient live at the same address is problematic, to my mind. I'm sure there are a lot of patients who cannot grow at their own addresses, even if they engage the services of a caregiver.

With a 12 plant limit there will be no caregivers to engage the services of.

This should open some eyes. So much for free meds... Everyone will be paying disp. prices. Still think all this BS is about taxes?

[COzigzag]

This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13 (http://www.denvergov.org/citycouncil/DenverCityCouncil/tabid/436352/mid/489055/newsid489055/4148/Default.aspx)


This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13
This week at City Council: Highlights for August 9-13

* Monday, August 9: Public hearing on the enactment of 3 new zone districts and changing the zoning classification for 4725 High St.; first reading of CB10-0607 restricting growing of medical marijuana in residential districts and uses; final consideration of CB10-0612 requiring certain city contractors to confirm lawful employent status of their employees at the regular City Council meeting (5:30 pm, City Council Chambers)
* Tuesday, August 10: Sale of City parcel at 10th & Osage to Denver Housing Authority at the Land Use, Transporation, & Infrastructure Committee meeting (11:00am, Council Committee Room 391)
* Wednesday, August 11: 2010-2011 Pre-budget discussions: Technology Services and Environmental Health at Government Affairs & Finance Committee meeting (10:30 am, Council Committee Room 391)


Meeting Schedule

Posted on Aug 06, 2010

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Awesome find. Thank you for the link!

[copobo]

Now is the time we want to hear some Denver MMC's speak up for the patients and caregivers!!

Let's see which ones are REALLY pro-patient and pro-caregiver?!

[dixierebel]

how much more is it going to take b4 people get up off the couch?reminds me of herding cattle into a gate single file style.does this not wake anyone up yet?you do see what they are doing here?looks pretty clear to me.they want to know what everyone is doing,what better way to do that by banning everything so that you pretty much have no choice but to sign up at the local "center".btw also a great way to track everyone too.naw they don't need to stake you out all they have to do is make it to where you have to go to a center and sign up there.

then all your info is there for them to have access to.remember all those crazy forms they made all the centers fill out?where you have to sign over your first born and all of that?they are setting everyone up for the slaughter...or complete control which ever comes first.:thumbsup:

[TheReleafCenter]

It's being delayed until Sep 20th so they can get public comment. Start working on it now!

[denverbear]

It's being delayed until Sep 20th so they can get public comment. Start working on it now!

as a disp. what are your thoughts on how this will effect you and the public.
are you for or against??

[TheReleafCenter]

as a disp. what are your thoughts on how this will effect you and the public.
are you for or against??

We're against this bill. I'll be going to provide public comment to that effect. Caregivers are absolutely a necessity for this model to succeed. The growing restrictions would hurt a lot of cg's we've come to know.

[copobo]

right on.

[funkfingers]

I kinda saw this coming..we need to make a huge stink about this. Is it me or are they trying to systematically eliminate a free market economy? If this passes through in denver I think the state is in for trouble and we will likely see similar measures trying to be enacted in other cities..

[copobo]

yes. this is very important shit. everyone should treat this as if they are directly effected by it - as this will be coming to your town next.

[copobo]

Action Alert:
Denver City Council Debates Banning Caregivers

Please copy and redistribute!

CALL AND EMAIL THE DENVER CITY COUNCIL

Tell them to vote "NO" CB-607, Medical Marijuana Zoning Changes

Call Denver City Council
720-865-9534

First Reading on Medical Marijuana Zoning Changes
Denver City Council Meeting
When: Mon., August 9
Time: Council Meeting starts at 5:30 pm
Where: Council Chambers, Room 450
City & County Building
1437 Bannock Street, Denver, CO
On the west side of the Civic Center Park.
Format: This is the first reading and public comment will not be taken on
this bill at the hearing. You can call or email the Denver City Council
with your opinion. If this bill passes, it will have a second and final
reading some time in September where public comment will be taken.

BACKGROUND
The Denver City Council will discuss CB10-0607, a bill restricting growing
of medical marijuana by zoning districts in the city. It would essentially
eliminate the ability of a person to be a caregiver and provide cannabis
for another person not living in the same house with them.

Excerpts from the bill:

The growing of medical marijuana shall comply with the following:
1. No more than 6 plants may be grown for each patient registry
identification card holder residing in a dwelling unit, not to exceed 12
plants per dwelling unit.
2. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall occur within a
completely enclosed structure.
3. Growing and/or storage of medical marijuana shall not occur in a common
area associated with the dwelling unit.
4. Growing shall be for personal use only by patient registry
identification card holders residing in the dwelling unit; retail or
wholesale sales of goods or products derived from the growing of medical
marijuana and any off-site distribution of such plants or derived products
are prohibited.

Click here for the full agenda and links to the ordinance.
SIRE Public Access (http://www.denvergov.org/sirepub/mtgviewer.aspx?meetid=149&doctype=AGENDA)

Tell the City Council to vote "NO" CB-607, Medical Marijuana Zoning Changes
and continue to allow safe access for patients and caregivers in Denver.

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Denver, CO 80202
Phone: 720-865-9534
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[Zedleppelin]

I kinda saw this coming..we need to make a huge stink about this. Is it me or are they trying to systematically eliminate a free market economy? If this passes through in denver I think the state is in for trouble and we will likely see similar measures trying to be enacted in other cities..


I don't think they're trying to eliminate a free market, at least in their eyes, they are trying to eliminate caregivers altogether. That was the intent of 1284, thats the intent of these rogue raids, and that is obviously the intent of this ordinance. Six months ago I would have laughed at this but after 1284 nothing surprises me what people get away with.

[valstar]

They are trying to push the boom of MMJ out of Colorado back to Cali or where ever people moved here from. The state and local officials have gone bonkers over what happened the past few years and they are going to systematically shape the system to make it so hard here that people get fed up and leave the state. Colorado has seen an explosion in population over the past few years and its mainly due to how lax the system was here on MMJ. Things are going to get worse unless these officials are stood up to and voted out. Until then they will not respect anyone in the MMJ community cause your vote just isnt enough to matter to them to go after.

[milehighkt]

am i wrong? but to me this all just sounds like the beginnings of regulating people growing their own or cg's growing for patients..and maybe just setting it up for future legalization and mass commercial produced marlbro greens so ppl buy their weed from gas stations and stuff so they can control and tax and regulate it? idk...i mean not many ppl, i know at least, make their own liquor at home

[HighPopalorum]

am i wrong? but to me this all just sounds like the beginnings of regulating people growing their own or cg's growing for patients..and maybe just setting it up for future legalization and mass commercial produced marlbro greens so ppl buy their weed from gas stations and stuff so they can control and tax and regulate it? idk...i mean not many ppl, i know at least, make their own liquor at home

Lots of folks make alcohol at home, but it cannot be sold retail which is why you probably don't see it very often. Like most home growers, we're hobbyists, and only make small amounts which we consume ourselves or share with our friends. Although I dislike the cumbersome three-tiered distribution model, I agree entirely that home-based operations should face limits on size and be prohibited from running a business.

semirelated: we need to collectively discard the paranoid style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics). I'll probably make a thread on this sooner or later. I believe the MMJ community is particularly drawn to this style of advocacy.

[FlyinPolynesian]

Lots of folks make alcohol at home, but it cannot be sold retail which is why you probably don't see it very often. Like most home growers, we're hobbyists, and only make small amounts which we consume ourselves or share with our friends. Although I dislike the cumbersome three-tiered distribution model, I agree entirely that home-based operations should face limits on size and be prohibited from running a business.

semirelated: we need to collectively discard the paranoid style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics). I'll probably make a thread on this sooner or later. I believe the MMJ community is particularly drawn to this style of advocacy.

But a 12 plant limit in general is absurd!! I agree to an extent that if you like most who are growing just for yourself, but a vast majority of caregivers grow out of their homes because they simply canʻt afford to set up a large grow space. Didnʻt they already try to limit and control that with HB1284 and giving a 5 patient cap on caregivers ?

To me itʻs just an assertion of "we control this, and your constitutional rights donʻt mean shit to us publicly elected officials, who are supposed to enforce the will of the people!!

[copobo]

considering 1284's limits on caregivers coming together (and perhaps getting commercial, non-residential space) this makes a constitutional right illegal.

[HighPopalorum]

But a 12 plant limit in general is absurd!! I agree to an extent that if you like most who are growing just for yourself, but a vast majority of caregivers grow out of their homes because they simply canʻt afford to set up a large grow space. Didnʻt they already try to limit and control that with HB1284 and giving a 5 patient cap on caregivers ?


No argument with any of this.

[HighPopalorum]

One fact that hasn't been mentioned is that Denver is a consolidated county/city, meaning it is governed by a charter. As such, they can enact laws by ordinance that are more strict than state laws. If the ordinance passes and enough of you petition it, it can be forced onto the ballot for a popular vote. Charter, or home rule communities are given greater leeway in crafting ordinances than statutory communities. IIRC, GratefulMeds and others tried to get Nederland to go home rule because it would give the town greater control over MMJ regulations. The Denver ordinance shows the other side of home rule. FWIW, I still think all Colorado communities should be governed by charter.

[VapedG13]

In washington we have a 15 plant limit... the caregiver can not consume :wtf:

[TheReleafCenter]

semirelated: we need to collectively discard the paranoid style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics). I'll probably make a thread on this sooner or later. I believe the MMJ community is particularly drawn to this style of advocacy.

I couldn't agree with this more. Can't wait for the thread, will rep much.

[TurboALLWD]

I couldn't agree with this more. Can't wait for the thread, will rep much.

Business as usual eh? You'd rep him alright, except his rep is disabled. :D For a good reason too, as I'm willing to bet for every member giving him rep like you will there will be ten giving him rep like I will.


Although I dislike the cumbersome three-tiered distribution model, I agree entirely that home-based operations should face limits on size and be prohibited from running a business.

So you're against caregivers, that's quite obvious.


semirelated: we need to collectively discard the paranoid style. I'll probably make a thread on this sooner or later. I believe the MMJ community is particularly drawn to this style of advocacy.

So now you're going to start a thread about how caregivers are paranoid about getting kicked out of the industry. Tell them to calm down, nothins happenin, it's all good. Their paranoid for christs sake! HAHA. So if theres no home based caregiver business out there, wheres everyone going to go? To the dispensary! :D And what we're you sayin about reputation relief? Ahhh don't worry about it, let the people draw their own conclusion on why you're reppin' :rastasmoke:

[Colodonmed]

Business as usual eh? You'd rep him alright, except his rep is disabled. :D For a good reason too, as I'm willing to bet for every member giving him rep like you will there will be ten giving him rep like I will.



So you're against caregivers, that's quite obvious.



So now you're going to start a thread about how caregivers are paranoid about getting kicked out of the industry. Tell them to calm down, nothins happenin, it's all good. Their paranoid for christs sake! HAHA. So if theres no home based caregiver business out there, wheres everyone going to go? To the dispensary! :D And what we're you sayin about reputation relief? Ahhh don't worry about it, let the people draw their own conclusion on why you're reppin' :rastasmoke:
Well stated!

[TurboALLWD]

Well stated!


Why thank you. All the anti-caregiver sentiment from these two really gets me. I was almost surprised to see a green bar dissapear from releaf when i rep'd him. :D

[copobo]

the Paranoid Style is here for a long time to come.

don't think those fees you've paid will keep you safe.

stand up for the people and they will stand for you!

[dixierebel]

Business as usual eh? You'd rep him alright, except his rep is disabled. :D For a good reason too, as I'm willing to bet for every member giving him rep like you will there will be ten giving him rep like I will.



So you're against caregivers, that's quite obvious.



So now you're going to start a thread about how caregivers are paranoid about getting kicked out of the industry. Tell them to calm down, nothins happenin, it's all good. Their paranoid for christs sake! HAHA. So if theres no home based caregiver business out there, wheres everyone going to go? To the dispensary! :D And what we're you sayin about reputation relief? Ahhh don't worry about it, let the people draw their own conclusion on why you're reppin' :rastasmoke:
goes into what i posted above,btw people it's not about taxes the state makes plenty off of busting drug dealers everyday as it was and as it is now.make no mistake about it this is all about power and control with what ever extra money they can take on the side.

[SprngsCaregiver]

semirelated: we need to collectively discard the paranoid style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics). I'll probably make a thread on this sooner or later. I believe the MMJ community is particularly drawn to this style of advocacy.

Quoted form the link you provided..

The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms â?? he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization... he does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated â?? if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoidâ??s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.
So you're trying to say we're a bunch of conspiracy nuts?? LOL
So it's unrealistic to think the feds could come in and bust any center anytime the want to?
I suppose in your eyes it is also unrealistic to think all these new laws have NOTHING to do with taxes? Even given all the recent proof you still can't shake off those blinders.
Unrealistic goals- Hmm, you may be right, I guess it is unrealistic to expect or government officials to follow the constitution. God knows they don't give a rats ass about that silly little piece of paper.

[senorx12562]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. It's the condescending "I know better than you" attitude that just cracks me up.