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bluntar
07-27-2010, 05:14 PM
so it is near the end of my grow and i am getting lost in the knolwedge. i went out and got that infamous 100x microscope from radio shack. heres what i see

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i see the trichs but what are the hairs? do the contain thc?

i know to hang dry for a while but why let them sit in a jar for a few weeks opening it every day? whats happening in there?

in the area that i first started to see the white hairs...when i look there now it looks like a seed sack only it has hairs comeing out of it and is coverd in frost..looks like a gland is this normal or is my plant going hermie?

hermies do not produce alot of thc because they focus on createing seeds...ya, ok but what if it does not become a hermie intill later in the flowering process?

some plants are smaller because they had a harder life than the otherss, will they take longer to turn amber or just yield less? they are all the same age.

the odor is not what i thought. i have read that it is vetty strong but mine is not...the room they are in allways smells like i just smoked a bowl in there but thats all. the rest of my house is fine. can you judge the potentcy from the smell? i know there would be exceptions but...you know..generally

this grew from bag seed.. .my best guess is white widow...any one recognize it....i would like to know what it is


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disoBAYish
07-27-2010, 07:09 PM
Judging by the fan leafs, your plant looks like a sativa dominant strain. If it is White Widow, it is probably a hybrid cross strain that is mostly something else. I dont think it is WW though, but it is impossible to tell for sure.

The hairs are called pistils. They should be a milky white, then change to a orange/brown. Once over 50% of the hairs change color, you can harvest your plant.

Doesn't look like a hermie to me. :thumbsup:

Happy growing....

drudown11
07-27-2010, 07:20 PM
wait two more weeks and its gunna stink up your house

bluntar
07-27-2010, 08:22 PM
tnx guyz:thumbsup:

bluntar
07-27-2010, 10:49 PM
i am looking at some strawberry funk that i picked up and im not seeing a single amber trichome...how common is that?

irydyum
07-27-2010, 11:18 PM
i am looking at some strawberry funk that i picked up and im not seeing a single amber trichome...how common is that?

Very common indeed. It takes more patience than one thinks to wait until the optimal harvest window. Some peoples tastes as growers can account for it too. I tend to harvest mine when the tops are going amber but the lowers haven't really started to. Just my personal preference. Some like to wait until it's gone all amber or mostly, just different strokes for different folks :thumbsup:

canniwhatsis
07-28-2010, 03:11 AM
I wouldn't say your anywhere near the end of that grow,.... Looks like your in week 3-4, if it is WW expect it to take about 8-9 weeks.


the little hairs you can see under the microscope contain very little THC, I don't remember what there called off hand, the ones with the little heads on them are the trichomes.

The female flower is basically an unfertilized seed, which is why they look like seeds covered in frost ( trichomes! :D ) with 2 hairs sticking out of them. If pollen gets on one of those 2 hairs it'll fertilize the flower and generate a seed.

Hermie flowers will have a "Nanner" sticking out of them, it's a single pollen gland, mostly its inert, but it could potentially fertilize the surrounding flowers. I attached a good picture I got a couple days ago of a herm flower after I excised it from the plant.

as for the curing process, you need to do that to evenly distribute the moisture in the bud to create a smooth smoke that burns well. You can't just completely desiccate the bud, it needs to be just a little moist.


Hope that helped a little.

TruePyroman
07-28-2010, 03:19 AM
growing from bagseed, I would never guess White Widow. where did you find this seed, was it only 1 seed in a q? or was it 1 of 30 seeds in a q?

anyway, my first 3 grows were from bagseed, and I just labeled them as general as I could: purp, cause the stuff was purple I got it from, and Kush, cause that's what the guy said it was, and I found a seed in it. Otherwise I personally would never say: "hey man, I got some white widow". I just call it homegrown. So until you decide to risk actually purchasing seeds through a seedbank, please don't be that guy saying you have WW when all you have is some nice bagseed. I'm not trying to diss you at all, because again, I have 3 successful harvests under my belt of some nice bagseed.

anywho, just my two cents.

disoBAYish
07-28-2010, 04:17 AM
I am pretty positive it is not White Widow. If it was, the leaves would be shorter and wider, along with the fan leaf stems being a much deeper hue of purple. I currently have a 6 White Widow plants, so that is my opinion.

bluntar
07-28-2010, 06:07 AM
awsome. thank you mucho!! i know i still have time to go but considering they have ben growing for almost 3 months i like to think i am almost done..im guessing 2 more weeks...maby 3...i have had 3 hermies so far, i hope i hot them out in time!!

for the record they veged for a 30 days and have ben flowering for around 45 days. they are slowing down because the light i think..i hope, whatever the reason there is nothing i can do now...im just gona let them run their course. i flushed them to day...i think i am gona cut the nutes out and just give them water from now on...to early or no?

thank you all agean for the input

canniwhatsis
07-28-2010, 06:17 AM
Too early! Even if it's an indica you'd be early starting flush. I agree this looks like a sativa dominate, which can take 10-12 weeks to be ready.


Utilize the microscope to judge timing, Look at the Trichomes, once they are ALL 100% cloudy and none are clear, that would be early,... As I understand thats the time to start flushing, once some have started to turn amber its about perfect time to harvest.


If your running more than one plant of the same strain,... cut over the course of a week and decide for yourself when the right time to harvest is and log that for your next grow.

bluntar
07-28-2010, 06:28 AM
ok ok ok...i got it...im just afraid sonething will go wrong in the next month..i have ben fighting some king of bug in the soil...i used pyrtheryn for a week and...well i found more today...i have had 3 hermies so far...cant fit any more lights...im out of money..AHHH...ok, i go that out. i will just take it is it comes.

way to early...got it. ty

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Dutch Pimp
07-28-2010, 01:06 PM
give them nutes as long as the plants are still growing/expanding...:thumbsup:..if your lighting is weak?...this adds time...lots of it

when all growth stops...you stop!...and wait for a little amber...my WW's take 11 weeks flowering to reach 5% amber

that pic looks alot like WW's...it's not bagseed...IMO

disoBAYish
07-28-2010, 05:29 PM
I prefer growing Clones SoG style indoors, and growing mothers from seed outdoors.

Try growing clones next time. You wont have to worry about males or hermies unless something goes seriously wrong. Just a friendly suggestion. *Shrugs*

After even more inspection, I am positive it is not WW. White Widow has purple vertical lines running through the main stem, along with all of the other discrepencies I described previously, such as fan leaf shape. Case closed.

irydyum
07-28-2010, 06:29 PM
After even more inspection, I am positive it is not WW. White Widow has purple vertical lines running through the main stem, along with all of the other discrepencies I described previously, such as fan leaf shape. Case closed.

Widow doesn't always have purpling. A lot of these individual characteristics you keep pointing out could be environmental or nutrient deficiencies or something to that effect. Have you seen how many breeders put out seeds of WW? Then take all the phenotypes you may see from all those breeders, it becomes difficult to say with any certainty what something is or isn't. His WW would look different than yours, as both of yours probably look different than the WW I grew.

Can't really close the case at any point. Can't really open a case either tho. Just have to let this momma flower out, and if you are happy with the smoke in the end, who cares what it's called. I know I don't.

bluntar
07-28-2010, 06:29 PM
ya, there is alot of things i would do dif next time...if there is one, my gf wont let me do it in my own home agean...so i got to find a buddy that has extra room and then ill do it right.

the CFL's work for 1 or 2 plants...any more then you are going to invest just as much as a smaller HPS and MH. i think a combo is the best, then you wont have to get the HPS/MH so close and you can place the CFLs on the side...

my dumb ass put a ton of seeds in one put...then when they all sprouted i went and dot 6 pots...for 15 plants...i ended up with 5 in their own pot and then 2 pots that had 5 each. by the time i found out that this was a BIG no no it was to late...this is got i got my hermies, i think. either way they fought for space and stole each others food. some stayed only 8 or 10 inches and had no side shoots after two and a half months..then before i knew it they had balls!!. they were flowering so i choped them down...im actualy smokeing some now and its WAY better tha i expected....looks like shit home grown but WEEEEEEE

i didnt start on nutes untill flowering, wish i had used some in veg...they all work togeather right? anyways i also didnt pay atention to the feeding chart over fed them for a while..another NONO!! i didnt burn them bad at all, they allways looked good other than a few blemishis here and there. their food is POTENT and the directiond are there for a reason.

i didnt use perlite or anything realy. just some mg shit. i got lucky so far with drainage. HAHA now that i think of it one of my biggest mistakes was not filling he pots all the way with soil...that was stupid, instead of transplanting later i had to fill a pot with soil about 4 or 6 inches and then transplant and fill in the dirt around the sides

i am posting my mistakes so someone reading this doesnt make the same mistakes, not so you all can talk trash and call me stupid OK!! only i can call me stupid!! haha


HERE IS A SAD PLANT THAT WANTS ITS OWN POT...

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disoBAYish
07-28-2010, 06:56 PM
Widow doesn't always have purpling. A lot of these individual characteristics you keep pointing out could be environmental or nutrient deficiencies or something to that effect. Have you seen how many breeders put out seeds of WW? Then take all the phenotypes you may see from all those breeders, it becomes difficult to say with any certainty what something is or isn't. His WW would look different than yours, as both of yours probably look different than the WW I grew.

Can't really close the case at any point. Can't really open a case either tho. Just have to let this momma flower out, and if you are happy with the smoke in the end, who cares what it's called. I know I don't.


Agreed. It doesn't really matter what it is as long as you are happy with the end product.

I grow Greenhouse White Widow both indoors and outdoors. The characteristics I speak of are related to the original strain that was introduced in 1994 and won the Cannabis Cup in 1995.

All of that to the side though.... the leaves are incosistent with an indica dominant strain. That is the real dead give away.

bluntar
07-28-2010, 08:05 PM
ok i "third" the whole who cares about the name thing..as long as it smoked well ill be happy..i took a rip this morning of the almost dried hermie i cut down only 3 weeks in to flowering. i no longer care about the name but. it would be nice to know what this is tho

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