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fasts102376
07-23-2010, 06:28 AM
hello every1.. it this true, does it help with the thc?

disoBAYish
07-23-2010, 06:56 AM
What strain?

fasts102376
07-23-2010, 08:46 AM
bag seed..

fasts102376
07-24-2010, 02:46 AM
anybody?

WashougalWonder
07-24-2010, 12:28 PM
I really cannot tell any difference. Tried, usually to clear room in flower room and let plant sit from 1 to several days in just diffuse room light. No change. Total darkness no difference.

showstopper
07-24-2010, 02:16 PM
I've had a hermi HP in darkness for 6 days now (day49) and it looks very good and alive..WTF? the trichs where clear when i put'em in and now over 50% cloudy i don't know if its going to finish in darkness or not but until it looks like its dieing(or the others finish) its staying put. i don't know if it helps resin production or not but have heard from many old timers it does help. my other plants same age that are still in the light are about 10% amber but the one in darkness looks a Little frostier. and greener.

showstopper
08-01-2010, 02:57 PM
So i put the hash plant back on 12/12 after 8 days of darkness, and omg it looks, smells, alot better then the others that had no darkness, the bud and fan leaves have far more trichs. and the calyx's are more swollen. it is finishing way better then the others did. so my opinion on the strain hash plant is yes the darkness helped freak it out into producing more resin. I had no idea what would happen when i put it back in the lights, but its going to be the best outa 3. I will do it again but at the last 48 -72 hours.

drudown11
08-01-2010, 04:06 PM
So i put the hash plant back on 12/12 after 8 days of darkness, and omg it looks, smells, alot better then the others that had no darkness, the bud and fan leaves have far more trichs. and the calyx's are more swollen. it is finishing way better then the others did. so my opinion on the strain hash plant is yes the darkness helped freak it out into producing more resin. I had no idea what would happen when i put it back in the lights, but its going to be the best outa 3. I will do it again but at the last 48 -72 hours.



That seems like a good way to stress your plants and get nanners.

I use a different approach. I try and give them the perfect environment with no stress's at all.

bobjob4u
08-02-2010, 12:15 PM
I know that some breeds love the darkness. In my opinion at least 24-48 hours of darkness. If you are truly at you harvest date. If not leave um alone and be patient.

Nirvanabud
08-02-2010, 05:15 PM
I don't think it helps during your vegging process, but once you've harvested your plants, then drying / curing your buds in darkness is a must.

Check this out - Drying and Curing Cannabis - The Final Critical Steps | The Grow Closet.com (http://thegrowcloset.com/drying-and-curing-cannabis/)

Good luck!

LUDACRIS
08-05-2010, 02:52 AM
hello every1.. it this true, does it help with the thc?

NO just cut the photoperiod (turn lights off) when the plant/s are ready. Their is no advantage of any kind of dark period before the chop. This theory is a myth.
:thumbsup:

LUDACRIS
08-05-2010, 02:55 AM
That seems like a good way to stress your plants and get nanners.

I use a different approach. I try and give them the perfect environment with no stress's at all.

You are still obsessed with this hermie and plant stress ideas you have in your mind. STABLE GENETICS CAN NOT TURN HERMIE !!!!!!!!!!
Are you really that stupid.
:D

cypher420
08-05-2010, 03:16 AM
I've heard a few different theories on the matter. I believe the main point of 24-72 hours of darkness (and no watering) before harvest is to make the plant use up all the nutrients it has stored in the leaves to distribute to the buds. During periods of light leaves collect energy and during dark periods release it.

drudown11
08-05-2010, 03:36 AM
You are still obsessed with this hermie and plant stress ideas you have in your mind. STABLE GENETICS CAN NOT TURN HERMIE !!!!!!!!!!
Are you really that stupid.
:D



first off, fuck you !:)


second off, ill qoute your dumb ass to prove my point on this one.


1.The photoperiod (or time of planting using natural light) is the most important factor to consider for normal flowering.

2.If artificial light is used, the length of the photoperiod can influence sexual expression.

3.anytime the light cycle is cut to less than 11 hours, some intersexes or reversed plant usually develop.

4.First, good growing conditions lead to healthy plants and normal flowering: female and male plants occur in about equal numbers, with few (if any) intersexes or reversed plants. Poor growing conditions lead to reduced health and vigour, and oftentimes to confused sex in the adult plant. Second, the age of the plants seems to influence reversals.



All of that information I copied and pasted from....YOU


Ill use you as the"dipshit" source on this one. I guess your the one im getting all of this bad information from.

LUDACRIS
08-05-2010, 03:45 AM
I've heard a few different theories on the matter. I believe the main point of 24-72 hours of darkness (and no watering) before harvest is to make the plant use up all the nutrients it has stored in the leaves to distribute to the buds. During periods of light leaves collect energy and during dark periods release it.

Your theory on the darkness and light periods are right but there is no need for any darkness at the end. Yes you can just stop watering them and let the soil dry out before chopping but it does NOT need to be in the dark.
I have done this before with a hermie i had beside 100% sinse plants that showed hermie signs (nanners) 2-3 weeks before it was ready to cut so i removed it from the grow room before the very few nanners it had and just left it in my kitchen to die by not watering it and waiting untill the plant was dying due to not watering. I then chopped it and it provided some super heavy smoke as the plant will suck up every nute or water left in the soil until it dies.
My plant had only 3-4 nanners before i removed it and let it die.
:thumbsup:

GetThisOrDie
08-05-2010, 11:39 PM
You are still obsessed with this hermie and plant stress ideas you have in your mind. STABLE GENETICS CAN NOT TURN HERMIE !!!!!!!!!!
Are you really that stupid.
:D

Sorry but thats uncalled for.

Its one thing to disagree but to insult dru is not the right thing.


Ive seen a few things you have said on other posts that were not the best information but I didnt say anything.

This seems like another post of the same.



Not only have I tried it but the person in the thread tried it with success. Maybe you were unlucky in having success with it.

I agree with dru when he said you can stress the plant by changing the cycle from 12/12 to 0/24 back to 12/12 after a couple of days.

Also cannabis has the ability to go hermy in situations where it feels that something is wrong (stress) and not normal. It tries to protect the species by self polinating. Or so ive read...

I dont think you can breed out the self preservation methods of the plant or have "good genetics" that dont try and preserve themselves in dire situations, but who knows.

:jointsmile:

If im wrong please show me some reputable sources.

LUDACRIS
08-05-2010, 11:52 PM
Sorry but thats uncalled for.

Its one thing to disagree but to insult dru is not the right thing.


Ive seen a few things you have said on other posts that were not the best information but I didnt say anything.

This seems like another post of the same.



Not only have I tried it but the person in the thread tried it with success. Maybe you were unlucky in having success with it.

I agree with dru when he said you can stress the plant by changing the cycle from 12/12 to 0/24 back to 12/12 after a couple of days.

Also cannabis has the ability to go hermy in situations where it feels that something is wrong (stress) and not normal. It tries to protect the species by self polinating. Or so ive read...

I dont think you can breed out the self preservation methods of the plant or have "good genetics" that dont try and preserve themselves in dire situations, but who knows.

:jointsmile:

If im wrong please show me some reputable sources.


So its alright for him to swear and cuss me ???????

LUDACRIS
08-05-2010, 11:55 PM
first off, fuck you !:)


second off, ill qoute your dumb ass to prove my point on this one.


1.The photoperiod (or time of planting using natural light) is the most important factor to consider for normal flowering.

2.If artificial light is used, the length of the photoperiod can influence sexual expression.

3.anytime the light cycle is cut to less than 11 hours, some intersexes or reversed plant usually develop.

4.First, good growing conditions lead to healthy plants and normal flowering: female and male plants occur in about equal numbers, with few (if any) intersexes or reversed plants. Poor growing conditions lead to reduced health and vigour, and oftentimes to confused sex in the adult plant. Second, the age of the plants seems to influence reversals.



All of that information I copied and pasted from....YOU


Ill use you as the"dipshit" source on this one. I guess your the one im getting all of this bad information from.


You aint got a clue mate. And you said you were leaving me alone ?????
Sometimes trolls just cant stop handing out abuse when proved wrong.
Why not go and stalk somebody else.

drudown11
08-06-2010, 04:21 AM
You aint got a clue mate. And you said you were leaving me alone ?????
Sometimes trolls just cant stop handing out abuse when proved wrong.
Why not go and stalk somebody else.

i did leave you alone, this post was from earlier last night.


thanks for the back up GToD, I was waiting for someone who has stressed a plant to nanners too chime in.

seriously though, I pulled every last one of those facts from one of your previous posts. How can you ignore that fact that your source even disagrees with you.


You said all of those things.


Now in the last few days you have told Me, GetThisOrDie, and Space needle that we are completely wrong. All of us have been on these forums for a while and we are always open to new ideas and techniques. Its very rude of you to think that your some guru and tell us we dont know what we are talking about.

We just ask for your sources, and you give us shit. Prove us wrong and we will humbly agree with you.

What you are saying goes against every marijuana cultivation book, every article, every grow,and every forum post i have ever read or seen.


and your source, well.....it never says one thing about plants being genetic hermies and how stress has no effect of sex. It actually says that stress, especially photoperiod stress, can have profound effects on causing intersex plants.


but like i said earlier, this post was from before we talked. Im tired of talking about hermies. My interest is strictly in FEMALES.

LUDACRIS
08-06-2010, 04:38 AM
i did leave you alone, this post was from earlier last night.


thanks for the back up GToD, I was waiting for someone who has stressed a plant to nanners too chime in.

seriously though, I pulled every last one of those facts from one of your previous posts. How can you ignore that fact that your source even disagrees with you.


You said all of those things.


Now in the last few days you have told Me, GetThisOrDie, and Space needle that we are completely wrong. All of us have been on these forums for a while and we are always open to new ideas and techniques. Its very rude of you to think that your some guru and tell us we dont know what we are talking about.

We just ask for your sources, and you give us shit. Prove us wrong and we will humbly agree with you.

What you are saying goes against every marijuana cultivation book, every article, every grow,and every forum post i have ever read or seen.


and your source, well.....it never says one thing about plants being genetic hermies and how stress has no effect of sex. It actually says that stress, especially photoperiod stress, can have profound effects on causing intersex plants.


but like i said earlier, this post was from before we talked. Im tired of talking about hermies. My interest is strictly in FEMALES.

You aint read much then have you or can you ???????.
I dont need to prove anything to you or anybody else and if this continues i will report you and this time might not be just a warning.
(just go away troll).
:thumbsup:

bobjob4u
08-06-2010, 09:35 AM
To all the regs of the board. I believe everyone has there own way of growing and we all brag of it, But we must respect each others theories . I dont judge a theory till i have tried it out . You never know you might learn somthing. As far as the darkness try it. I know for fact. that the royal queen autos. Finished out much stronger after 48 ours of darkness. compare to prior grows of the same genetics. But that is not saying it will work for (example) Afgan kush ryder. It work well from what i see with the autos best. Must have somthing to do with finishing fast ? Not to change the subject but whats your theory on that!

GetThisOrDie
08-06-2010, 02:20 PM
hey bob..

Ive also heard that it works better with some strains more than others. I think that can account for peoples negative experiences with the technique. Ive read that you can keep some strains like white widdow in the dark for up to two weeks. Cant imagine some white widow with even more trichs!

PhatJay
08-06-2010, 10:53 PM
You aint read much then have you or can you ???????.
I dont need to prove anything to you or anybody else and if this continues i will report you and this time might not be just a warning.
(just go away troll).
:thumbsup:

You need to chill out dude, if you insult someone they are bound to give you some back, you can disagree with another forum user without insulting them. I think Drudown has been pretty restrained, you started with the insults.

Just because a technique didn't work for you does not mean it will not work for someone else. Like many others I have tried stress ripening and it worked (I used 48-72 hours of darkness). Insults are not going to change my opinion, facts will.

fasts102376
08-09-2010, 06:24 AM
well guys i did alittle test, i left two of my plants in the dark for a week and the other 2 in room to finish out and i was'nt impressed.. in my personal opinion it dont help..

bobjob4u
08-09-2010, 12:21 PM
Well there you go . It didnt work for that breed of plant. so now you know. Never had much luck with any thing getting better in the bag seed department. Not sure what you genetics you did.But dont write them all off ,to your breeds responce to darkness. Breeders recomidation is 2 weeks darkness for white widow. Not sure if it is true never tried em.

PhatJay
08-09-2010, 12:28 PM
well guys i did alittle test, i left two of my plants in the dark for a week and the other 2 in room to finish out and i was'nt impressed.. in my personal opinion it dont help..

I think doing it for a week was probably a bad idea. 48-72 hours is the technique that seems to work the best for those who find it works. If you had typed "Stress Ripening" into Google you would have found many many people who are happy with the results SR.