curled up,skinny browning leaves...help!

[mikel988]

i have my plants in buckets and its nearly bud time,one of them is in bad shape.i think i over watered and now the leaves are getting skinny and brown and curled. i use miracle grow soil and sometimes the miracle mix in the water. how can i fix this or is it too late?

[Rusty Trichome]

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[mikel988]

i have my plants in buckets and its nearly bud time,one of them is in bad shape.i think i over watered and now the leaves are getting skinny and brown and curled. i use miracle grow soil and sometimes the miracle mix in the water. how can i fix this or is it too late?

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What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) novice

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
.2) Distance from tops?
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) miracle grow potting soil
.8) Size of container. 2.5 gallon
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? no

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? tap water with occasional miracal grow mixed in.
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? outdoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? no bugs

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)sativa
24) From seeds or clones? clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
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[mikel988]

i'm pretty new to this.when i was young you could throw a seed in dirt and never have a problem and no chemicals were added.i'm in northern ca. my plants are in buckets with miracle grow soil,only the one plant is having this problem,the others only got this very little.they were doing fine untill we had a 4 day spell of 100 degree temps,this is when they started curling and browning,i moved them out of the heat and only the one still has issue's.the leave's are very skinny,curling up,brown and some lower leaves are drooping downward.the tops are still coming out green but not growing very good and look a little deformed.i was told it was over watering so i stopped and in 3 days they began to droop,i watered and they perked right back up.was this maybe the use of miracle grow mix combined with the heat? i'd like to save the bad one if possible,its nearly bud time here and i'm not set up for indoor growing.i hope this is enough information for anyone that can help.what happend to seed dirt water and sun.....please help save this plant....thanks anyone.

[Bulster]

Hi mikel988,
You have indeed experienced a bit of overwatering. The hotter your roots get the less oxygen they get, this leads to root rot which is really what 'overwatering' is, or becomes if not dealt with immediately. If your summers get hot forget about growing above the ground, instead bury your container in the ground so it stays cool from the surrounding soil. If that's not an option then use the biggest pot you can and keep the pot shaded at all times, and you might make it through. Also make sure your soil mix is very airy, a heavy wet soil is certain death in hot weather. And don't place the pot on a hard heat conductive surface, better to stand it on some soil. But again, you really should bury your pot in the ground. Oh, and your buckets do have draining holes on the bottom and the water can escape, right? If not, get it done ASAP.

I hope you beat the heat!

[mikel988]

thanks bulster...yes they do have drain holes and drain well.sounds like you are right on the money.i had them in black plastic buckets in the heat on a metal shelf...oops.i havent done this since i was young so i have a bit to learn.after i moved them they are doing better except the one is not doing good but is still kicking,is there anything i should do to that one in particular to get it healthy again? thank you for the advice...

[Rusty Trichome]

.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) miracle grow potting soil

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? tap water with occasional miracal grow mixed in.

The nutrients in MG soil usually expires (runs-out) at 6-8 weeks. If it's been about that long, start with regular 1/2 dose applications of your MG nutrients.

Double-check the nutrients for EXACT feeding instructions (with MG, it's usually a 10 to 14 day feeding schedule listed) You'll have to adjust your dilution rate, and watch the ladies for results.

Might want to chack the "Dealing With Heat Issues" thread in my signature. Tiz mainly for indoor grows, but some of the info is good for outdoors.