oxygenated water in potted plants.

[isaacmstone]

The Mrs. tells me that she heard at her garden club that plants really like oxygenated water. She thought that I should try it.

I know this is addressed in the hydroponics portion of this message board, but I am growing in soil and pots. And I had a tuff time making heads or tails out of the discussions.

Oxygenated water is great for drinking. Also for cleaning the vegetables picked from the garden or purchased at the store. These are facts. Cause it kills a lot of stuff, hopefully only the bad stuff, but I think it kills other stuff also. As I understand it, oxygenated water can kill off root rot or gets rid of diseases to the roots. And please correct me if I am wrong.

I have not used it yet. My plants look just fine, healthy, all that good stuff. I normally use regular tap water, add some nutrients and molasses, ph to 6-6.5, water every other day. Flush every 4th or 5th watering. Why would I want to change?

Just curious, I suppose. And the Mrs. put this bug in my head. Anyway, In my readings on the internet, oxygenated water messes with the iron and magnesium and maby even the copper that exist in the water or soil.

Therefore, is it a good idea to use oxygenated water in potted plants? If it is, then do I have to use anything else to "counter" any adverse affects regarding the iron, mag or copper?

Also is this something that can be done every watering, or just every so often? It sounds as though if I used oxygenated water AT THE SAME TIME WITH the nutrients, then the H203 would kill all that stuff that I am using to feed the plant.

Just checking to see if anyone out there in cannibus land knows the answers to my questions or even cares. As I am typing, it seems that this might be dumb whupdedo to even consider, except I have an ozonater and it works great as a drinking water and vegetable cleaner. Looking for another use for the puppy.

[isaacmstone]

Talk about feeling stupid. woke up this morning and realized I used the wrong word in the previous post. The word I was supposed to use was OZONATED WATER.

Anyway, where ever you see oxygenated insert ozonated.

[Dutch Pimp]

roots like oxygen

plants like co2

Who do you trust?..to work best?

[eastbaygordo]

Ozone is O3 which is an air pollutant and isn't good for humans.

I did see O2 additive to oxygenate your water at the hydro store so yes to O2 no to O3.

[WashougalWonder]

Just don't over water and no problem, since you are soil.

[Rusty Trichome]

Ozone kills the beneficial biologicals in the soil, (not good) and will likely interract with other chemicals and chemical compounds in your nutrients and soil. Usually this is a bad thing. Spraying it on the plants might just kill the plants.
Ozone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone)

Ambient air contains gasses that the roots need to properly develop and function. The root zone needs those gasses to be regularly replaced, and they get this via watering. When you water, suction draws-down the air into the soil. But if you oversaturate the soil, you force-out the air with moisture. (starving the roots of those necessary gasses)

Oxygenating additives are unnecessary crap, and potentially harmful to the plant and soil if used improperly.

Keep it simple.

[CovertCarpenter]

Ozone kills the beneficial biologicals in the soil, (not good) and will likely interract with other chemicals and chemical compounds in your nutrients and soil. Usually this is a bad thing. Spraying it on the plants might just kill the plants.
Ozone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone)

Ambient air contains gasses that the roots need to properly develop and function. The root zone needs those gasses to be regularly replaced, and they get this via watering. When you water, suction draws-down the air into the soil. But if you oversaturate the soil, you force-out the air with moisture. (starving the roots of those necessary gasses)

Oxygenating additives are unnecessary crap, and potentially harmful to the plant and soil if used improperly.

Keep it simple.

You're totally right on the KIS thing, Rusty, but if I may offer a personal experience of a few years ago?

Me and the now-Wife were living in Calgary a few years ago, and still in our 'honeymoon phase', and so I was buying her cut flowers on a regular basis. Roses would usually last about four to five days in the vase in the kitchen.

One day either the wife or I was being impatient with my brita filter, and so they got watered with some heavily ozonated distilled water that we kept on hand for emergency purposes (the ozone gave it a hell of a shelf-life).

We found that roses would last three weeks, sometimes more, if they were watered with this stuph, instead of R/O, normal distilled, tap, brita, etc., and with no scummy stuph around the base of the vase. The roses seemed to flourish with the water, as well.

I wish I could find someone who was doing that out here, but I've used the distilled/mildly-ozonated and springwater/mildly-ozonated from my local grocery store, with no ill effects.

I think what happens is that the O3 breaks quickly down into O2 and O1, with the O2 being great for roots, and the O1 deadly to pathogens. I hadn't thought about it killing off the beneficials, tho. That could pose a problem...

I am only an egg.

[Rusty Trichome]

Ahh...so ozonated water helps preserve chopped flowers. Cool. <kidding>

Perhaps it's because it was delaying the decomposition of the flowers. Could it be killing molds and bacteria that dine on dead/dying plant material, giving the appearance of slower die-off...? I could see a possible use in cloning, but beyond that, IDK...

Have you tried not using the O3 water on healthy plants, and see if there's a difference? Personally, I wouldn't spend the extra $ unless I had supporting evidence that it works enough to justify the cost.

Side note:
I use my wellwater from the tap. A little adjusting with phDown, and I'm good to go. I still don't know why all these guru's insist on R/O or other 'designer' waters, but I suspect it's preventative medicine for newbies. Other than adjusting my ph wrong, I've never had a water-related incident, even when I was living in Vegas. (smelled and tasted like the worst tapwater in the civilized world) I did let it sit uncovered overnight to outgas the chlorine, but take away the chlorine smell, and you get the pre-chlorinated smell. <yuck>

These are my feelings, and my feelings are not to be confused with fact. I am aware that some cities have lower water quality, but I do feel that low quality tap water beats high-dollar bottled water quality every time. Not only is the filtering costly, so is having to purchase the additional nutrients, minerals and metals that the filtering process takes-out.

[isaacmstone]

Thanks. I will probably KIS.

[CovertCarpenter]

...for the survival of the flowers; the O3 was keeping the pathogens at bay that would normally be breaking things down.

I don't know what the concentration of the O3 was, just that it was high enough that you could leave the water (unopened) on the shelf damn near anywhere for a year, and it would still be good.

I agree that an experiment should be done to really determine the effectiveness, and I suspect that you're right, Rusty, that (if such effect can be proven) the most beneficial place for it would likely be in yer cloner.

I think I'm going to set up (next batch) a test where one cloner gets the O3'd water from my supermarket, and one just gets carbon-filtered tapwater. Hell, I might even try a control group that just gets tap water, a la Weez...

[Rusty Trichome]

Looking forward to that thread. :thumbsup: