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MMJmedia
07-11-2010, 05:16 PM
Last Thursday night, I joined the Pot is Hot Mod Squad which is having me do their public and press relations work for them. We had about a dozen volunteers wearing the Pot is Hot t-shirt and we were registering people to vote, talking to them about Prop 19 (which will legalize marijuana for adult use in CA), and handing out business cards.

And the question came up about the right of felons to vote in California. Below is a list of requirements and restrictions for voting. This list came from California Secretary of State??s website in a PDF entitled ??A Voting Guide for Inmates?.

And I just wanted to take the time to not only share this valuable information but to also make an opinionated commentary on this topic. I believe the War on Drugs effectively silences poor minorities by targeting them for non-violent felony charges. If a felon is in custody or on parole, that felon cannot vote in the State of California. Blacks, Latinos and ...
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eastbaygordo
07-11-2010, 07:12 PM
Undaunted by the heat, ex-felon Curtis Griffin spends his late summer afternoons walking Rialto and Fontana's bleakest neighborhoods on the hunt for ex-cons - each a potential voter who might cast the decisive ballot in the historic November 4 national election.

Finding them isn't the hard part, explains Griffin, it's getting them to admit that a past mistake has kept them from the ballot box.

At voter registration events like this, activists and election officials are spreading the word: ??For the record, felons can vote??

"Most ex-felons out here are under the false assumption they can't vote. In California you can vote! There's a lot of misinformation and confusion out there."

That's an understatement. Consider this: a 2001 U.S. Civil Rights Commission report concluded that the disenfranchisement of ex-convicts is "the biggest hindrance to Black voting since the poll tax."

The racial impact of racial disenfranchisement laws is particularly egregious. Thirteen percent of all Black men - 1.4 million cannot vote due to a patchwork of voting restrictions and the paralyzing grip of post Civil War Jim Crow laws. That represents just over one-third (36 percent) of the total disenfranchised population blocked from the vote even after they have completed their sentence and paid their debt to society: a rate seven times that of any other group in America.

The effects of voter disenfranchisement are universal except for Maine and Vermont, all states deprive individuals with felony convictions of the right to vote for varying periods of time.

In California where the criminal justice system remains particularly rife with racial disparities, advocates like Griffin and nonprofits groups like Voting Rights for All are hard at work spreading the word: "In California ex-felons can vote."

Under California law, people with felony convictions can register to vote if they are out of prison (fully served their sentences) and off parole.

Although most of the state's voting code was passed in 1974, these important legal rights have been mostly hidden, unspoken and unknown by the general public.

Last week during a Bible study at the Rock Church in San Bernardino, Melvin Stokes lamented about felons not having the right to vote.

"I've always wanted to vote... it has always been told to me that if you were convicted of a felony, you can't vote," said the ex-felon who has been off parole 10 years.

The misconception is not just among ex-felons. "I thought people convicted of felonies lost their right to vote. I see now it must be a common misconception," said a retired Alameda County judge, quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle, October 16, 2004.

To return to the ballot box, felons must negotiate suffrage laws that vary from state to state, in many cases working with election officials, parole officers and judges who can be both unfamiliar with the law and hostile to former convicts seeking to register.

Such challenges matter little to Griffin and others trying to return former criminals to voter rolls, an effort they consider crucial in light of the results of the past two presidential elections: A shift of a few hundred votes in Florida in 2000 would have changed the outcome of the presidential race, and the results in 2004 came down to a margin of 119,000 votes in Ohio.

The nonprofits groups and individual activists making the push on felons' behalf agree the effort is broader this year than in previous elections. They expect the effort to benefit Barack Obama more than John McCain, given that the population of former felons is disproportionately Black.

Who Can Register?

A person entitled to register to vote must be a U.S. citizen, a resident of California, not in prison or on parole for the conviction of a felony, and at least 18 years of age.

You can vote after you have completed parole. There is no waiting period and you do not have to prove that you are off parole. Election officials have access to parole status data. You can vote if you are on probation, or have completed probation. If you have been charged with a felony but not yet been convicted; If you have been convicted of a felony but are in county jail and not in state prison.

You must register by October 20. Pick up a registration form at your local library or post office. If you are in county jail, ask a friend or family member to pick up a form for you or request one through jail authorities.

Use your home address or your residence address. The registration form is a legal document that requires your signature and either a California driver's license/ID card number or the last four digits of your Social Security number. If you are not sure you are registered, voting officials encourage you to register again.

In California Ex-Felons Can Vote - NAM (http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=83ad3398e2b13768f804a d8026d0bf1b)

DavidBriggs
07-12-2010, 05:35 PM
Can Felons Vote?

In California Felons CAN vote (they must be out of jail and off parole)

Felons and those interested please visit http://www.californiafelonparty.org/

Islandborn
07-14-2010, 02:07 PM
People are just SHOCKED to hear felons are voting in California.......shocked I tell you. :thumbsup:

Nancy007
07-14-2010, 05:00 PM
Hasn't it always been that way? Or, are felons just now taking the opportunity to know their rights?

driftersmokinjo
07-14-2010, 05:15 PM
most dont have a clue about their rights. when they convict you they tell you what you loose not what you can get back. unless you put forth the effort to find out your rights you may never know.

DavidBriggs
07-14-2010, 06:16 PM
It truly is a failure of our national government to disallow felons the opportunity to vote on a federal level.

Legislature within 16 states have decided to allow felons to vote within the past decade. There is a trend towards a more true democracy as felons are given this opportunity. Although in most states the potential voter in question but be out of jail and off of parole, this is a step in the right direction.

These new laws are increasing the rate of voting within the black population due to their high incarceration rate. One in every 8 Black men were barred from voting.

It is said that although 5.3 Million Americans are not allowed to vote because of their criminal record, 600,000 individuals that could not vote ten years ago due to records are now able to.

Only Maine and Vermont have truly forgiving laws creating no restrictions on their felons. Even those currently in jail are permitted and encouraged to vote. On the other hand Florida, Virginia, and Kentucky still have lifetime bans on voting by felons.

I hope this information is useful

DavidBriggs
07-14-2010, 06:58 PM
It truly is a failure of our national government to disallow felons the opportunity to vote on a federal level.

CORRECTION - State laws also govern ability to vote in Federal elections.

MMJmedia
07-15-2010, 01:34 PM
Thank you all for contributing so much good information. Hopefully we can help so-called felons learn their rights and take an active role in the politics and policies which effect their lives most.

driftersmokinjo
07-15-2010, 07:03 PM
i have also heard that in most states after 20 years if you have not had any more trouble it is fairly easy to get a pardon.

DavidBriggs
07-15-2010, 07:12 PM
About 90 percent of felons are back in prison within a year of release. It is a cycle, one that is created by government and judiciaries.

Only 5 percent actually make it off of parole.

7 years after parole release, if you have gotten into no trouble whatsoever, you may return to the same court and judge that sentenced you in the first place and request that he expunge your record, restoring some of your rights but most of all, allowing you to apply for and actually be considered for jobs.

MMJmedia
07-21-2010, 04:16 PM
It truly is sad. I talk to felons who do not know they can vote in California. You're right, they are told what they cannot do. I even heard of a judge that did not know felons could vote in CA. There is so much misinformation. I do believe it's a way of control or oppressing people (especially minorities).

DavidBriggs
07-22-2010, 01:13 AM
Agreed, the black incarceration rate is 300% higher than that of whites. People have postulated that legalizing cannabis will stop that, I think it will be putting people out of work...

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