1st grow ... Have a Few questions.

[Sensimilla420]

Ok.... so this is my first post new to the site. I looked around and i think ive found the answer to my question but im not sure.

What is happening is my lower leaves are starting to slowly yellow. I had yellow leaves before when in veg stage and the proplem was solved with a simple nutrient tweak. Ive tried adjusting the nutrients again but to no avail. My plants are in direct sunlight for 4 hrs a day and in direct for around the other 6 of the day. I know not ideal by no means but hasnt been a proplem yet. my Plants are 4' but lanky i believe this is contributed to the lack of direct sunlight.

So is it normal for these leaves to be yellowing during the first few weeks of flower. I can try to get pics up later if they will help.

Also kinda of topic if anyone can help with this question. When does the plant acctualy start producing smokable amounts of thc. Just a curiosity question cus when walking to my plants i can smell them from a good 30 40 feet away alrdy , does this means they are smokable alrdy. i know im gunna let them grow of course but its a random thought.

Thanks!!
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[truepunk87]

yes it is normal for bottom leaves to yellow and die off during the flower stage. also......yes it does contain thc now just not in the concentrated amounts.

[Sensimilla420]

k so in theory im ok then lol i was kinda gettin worried thinkin i had messed them up

[LetsSeeYa]

k so in theory im ok then lol i was kinda gettin worried thinkin i had messed them up

Its really hard to mess up outside. This plant can do amazing things. Ya might fim a branches to help with the spendly thang. I just did one, cuz its getting less light then i want. After it grows a bit, il pull it into the direct light so the fimed part will produce most of the yield in a cola type growth. See my thread as i went over it just now.

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[Sensimilla420]

k 1st ... what is fiming?

2nd thnx at least i know im good i just had a friend over lookin at them who used to grow alot back in the day and he was showing me all these old school tricks which i thought was funny cus he was describing LST to me and he was makin it sound like a secret but anyways we left my one plant alone who has a nice fat cola alrdy starting on it ( cant wait :rastasmoke: ) but on the top of the other we snipped the top. he said it would branch out from here but at 4 feet with ardy spliting once around 2 feet was that a good idea lol

3rd my plants are at 4 feet but i styill hafta support them they cant stand straight up on there if i get any gust of wind which happens alot being on the ocean lol . is there something i can do to beefin up the stalks and make them more solid or just stake em and let em go.

[hydroponican]

your plant will smell cos its a fresh herb but dont smoke them now.....thats pretty dumb
wait until fall and cos ur not gona seen no buds until then if ur growing outside:pimp:
:pimp::pimp::pimp:

[Sensimilla420]

yeah i dont have any bud yet just flowering but it was just wondering dont worry i deff am not thinking bout smokin them now lol.

[truepunk87]

yea bro u good. u doing just fine. being ble to smell them is a good thing. ,ean they doing like they suppose to. keep us updated and some pics of them would be great;)

[Sensimilla420]

yeah when i started growing i had no clue these forum sites existed i got bored and planted some seeds i had gotten outta a reg bag (shhhh i know lmao). I would have started a grow log i have some pics when there were small maybe ill start one lol would be kinda pieced together but still fun

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah man get us some pics you can just start you logg off right here umm fimming is like topping but instead of cutting the whole new growth off the top you just take like 80% of it and you can get from anywhere to 3 to 7 tops on ya plant instead of just one main cola when it grows natural


well man you are you giving them nutes if so what kind and yeah id just leave them staked up if thats how ya got them how man plants do ya got? and are they bagseed or what also go check my grow logg out it may help ya some

[Sensimilla420]

yeah ill hafta get some pics up fo sho!!!! lmao slightly medicated right now :rasta: but yeah fiming sounds kinda complicated i wonder if theres a vid on youtube or if anyone knows a tutorial of any sort . I hate messin up.

But i started out with 6 plants 2 i just got rid of last week where some big healthy males was a shame i didnt have something to pollinate with them. but then i lost 1 to a rodent of some sort it seemed angry at my plant and destroyed the pot and tore the plant to pieces glade it only got 1. then i lost another to dropping it on the way from one spot to next, was my fault. so i only got 2 plants left luckaly are both female.

Yeah just bagseed ( im guessing bagseed means a seed from a bag of bud you got) im using shultz plant food 10-15-10 right now. For what ever reason the fertillizer here blows hardcore. Everything is miracle grow and i cant find any organic stuff around im very sad about this but what can i do. The guy at the local smoke shop is opening a hydro store but not for a few months maybe next grow ill have him get me some free stuff to set up a hydro room. I can dream right :hippy:

[Sensimilla420]

OK good morning everyone,

Last night i was just reading on the internet bout flowering cycles outside for marijuana. I read an article that said if you cover your plants outside with a black heavy duty thrash bag where no light can get in you can acctualy start to alter the flowering cycle, seems plausible.

Question i have is if you put a bag over a plant like that is there risk of any kind of suffication i guess you would call it. Like no fresh air and wind and just kinda being under a plastic bag doesnty seem tyo healthy but if its just for 12 hrs on 12 hrs off shoud it be ok?

[Sensimilla420]

Im working on some pics now my cameras broken and tryin to get the cell phone to work lol :rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

3 weeks after they poped up outta the dirt :rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

So im still working on the pictures of my plant as of this morning but my phone decided to start acting idiotic after i got that first pic to work. Ill post them soon. :rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

Got another to work!!!!!!! :thumbsup: What do yall think? dont beat me up to hard.:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

ah man she looks great better than mine haha

[Sensimilla420]

The next pic i got to come through . In this one you can see how far it has stretched beacuse of the fact i had to move them to a different spot, my neighbor has kids and they asked me to keep them out of site, anywways the spot i moved to as you can see in the pic is very shady and all the lower leafs died off leaving me with just the top leaves.

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah man can you not find a place with more sun and how long have they been in those pots you may need to transplant them soon

[Sensimilla420]

Last pic i have right now.Finally!!!!!:rasta:

[MDFinest]

those things look pretty stretched out.. otherwise they look great. And I dont know what evry1 is telling you but if you plants are in a pot and the lower leaves are yellowing and dying off it could be because the roots dont have enough room to grow. Lower leaves dying off ISNT a good thing.. not in VEG.. it's going to make its way up the plant if you dont figure out whats wrong. You might have to transplant if the lower leaves are yellowing and you think its not a nutrient problem. Also dont bother trying to force flower.. why rush it.. just let the good sunlight and nature do its thing.. its patience.

[Sensimilla420]

they have been in those pots sence seeds lol but i dont see any roots coming out the bottom sides or anything and when i cut down the males the root ball was very small on it . Is that normal? :rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah thats what i was thinkings MD but some of the bottem leaves do fall off during veg just not alot like 2 every other month cuz the new growth on top takes there place but after seeing your pots and your plants i think you need to repot

[MDFinest]

i would say that is normal for the rootball to be small.. but if the roots are just circling around at the bottom of the pot, they dont have anywhere to go... thats what you want to look for. If the lower leaves are dying off if you dont solve the problem the next set of leaves up are next.. and it continues to progress upwards

[Sensimilla420]

k what size would i go to and how would i go about doing it. :rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

they have been in those pots sence seeds lol but i dont see any roots coming out the bottom sides or anything and when i cut down the males the root ball was very small on it . Is that normal? :rasta:

yeah man i bet your plants have been growing really slow here lately if they have been in those pots since seed you deff need to repot now asap if they are starting to flower

[MDFinest]

yeah thats what i was thinkings MD but some of the bottem leaves do fall off during veg just not alot like 2 every other month cuz the new growth on top takes there place but after seeing your pots and your plants i think you need to repot

yea I saw that you hit it right on.. when I read the lower leaves were yellowing that was the first thing that came to mind.. because its a mistake alot of first timers probably make.. other then nitrogen deficiency... I was going to ask if they were in the ground then I saw the pots and their size I figured that could be the problem..

[Sensimilla420]

yeah they havent got any higher in about a week(i figured due to the flowering) what if i go to repot and the root ball is small and not tryin to escape then what would cause the yellowing and growth stunt? theve been in that spot for a good month now so it wouldnt be shock from moving them.:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

I bet when you put them in some bigger pots they will love it get like a couple 5 gallon pots and you will be good till harvest.

Just roll the pot in tha hands to loosen it from tha sides make sure the soil is kinda dry when you go to repot tho. Then just place your hand on top of the dirt with the stem between your fingers then turn it upside down and it should slide right out.

Put some holes in the bottom and then add perlite or gravel in the bottem of the new 5 gallon pots to help draining then fill them about halfway with tha soil put ya plants in and then fill the rest of the pots with soil water and then your done.

[MDFinest]

well to be exactly sure I'd need alot more information and Im not even the best at trouble shooting.. but it'd mostly likely be a nutrient deficiency.. but if the problem isnt rapidly worsening it could be no big deal at all.. this is a basic troubleshooter.. Troubleshooting cannabis growing health problems. (http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/troubleshooting_guide.php)

[Sensimilla420]

yeah, no its not rapid like loosin leaves daily or even every other day.i loose maybe a leave or so every couple weeks .I just went and looked and seen if i could see any roots none that were visible i even dug down the sides alittle still nothing. i may just re pot for the heck of it lol just to rule it out.:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

hey man go pull tha pot off if you see white roots all around tha sides of the soil/rootball then you deff need a repot

[StickyBuds1987]

http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/185911-my-first-grow-2010-a-3.html

go check out lever2000's logg and look at the pic where he is showing his root ball if yours looks like that you need a repot

[Sensimilla420]

k yeah i just went a poped it out and i seen little root on the side it wasnt like crazy. I noticed while i was repoting that the soil was really dense and wet which is wierd cus i only water once a week with only a half gallon of water. also when i water i see the water escaping through the wholes on the bottom of the pot. so i know it s draining. needless to say i transplanted in to a bigger pot now.

but i noticed just a minute ago all my leaves are now wilting. * Sad Face*

I watered them in to make sure there were no airpockets in the soil also. could it be beacuse this i thier first transplant?

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah they are prob just a lil shocked from tha transplant they will be better by in the morning most likely

[JungleSuperstar]

agreed with everyone as i had mine in similar pots, one way of looking at it is imaginin the canopy of leaves of your plant is the same size as ur root complex so if you dont think the canopy would fit inside the pot then put it in a bigger one.... this is why i love the ground as the roots will always find sumwhere to go,

i wouldnt worry too much bout the yellowing and the leaves dropping off it happens to mine and it happens to all plants under the sun its natural stage of a plants grwoth to get rid of the lower leaves that dnt get much light to put more energy into taking light in through the top leaves which get loads.

some people worry too much and think that cuz there plant has got a bit of yellow or summet isnt quite right that its the end of the world.... chill out, roll a blunt, wathc them grow, let them do there ting, they will be fine unless there is sumthing seriously rong but then u will be able to tell...:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[Sensimilla420]

Lol always got a blunt rolled :rasta: well ive been keeping an eye on the plant and i think i messed up the big one i will see in the morning. Anyone have any suggestions on what to do if the leaves and top of the plant dont perk back up soon.

Did i kill it lol , i wouldnt be suprised of even upset im learning and i think im gunna grow inside next just cus it seems easyer even though its lot more work lmao.

I still have a nice healthy female with 2 top and when it full grows out will acctualy have 4 tops which i will fim so i should get at least enough to smoke for awhile off of it.

also what if the plant survives but al the leaves die do i jst clip the dead ones off.

Also .... if i do trim the leaves were they split of from the main stem will bud still grow on those nodes or? If not is there any way to promote lower growth on a 4 foot plant lol :rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

K just went and checked on them all the leaves are shriveled expect the top 2 nodes and the very top cola starting everything else i think is gone so what if i just trim up all the dead leaves and let it go i should end up with just a top cola on top of a 4 foot stem thats gunna be very funny looking. Is it even possible.
?:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

just let it do its thing man dont trim anythign else off it if it makes it then good if it does not then germ another seed and start over

[Sensimilla420]

Good morning everyone,

So these are some pics after yesterdays transplant and being this is the first time ive ever transplanted a plant i think i hurt it but its not dead. As you can see when i woke up this morning every leave was shrivled and dead except the top 4 wierd?:hippy:

It still has the flower on it and doesnt show a single sign of any stress from the transplant so does anyone have any insight on wtf happened will it still grow?

what should i do just let it go and end up with what ever happens lol.

Also ive moved them into a spot that recieves light from sun up to sun down directly on them.

The last 2 pics are of my other plant that im not gunna mess with lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!:rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

:rasta:The girls are doing awesome this morning.

[StickyBuds1987]

glad they are doing better man idk what ya did to make all the other leaves die off over night maybe ya did you damage the roots like did ya break apart tha root ball

[Sensimilla420]

Yeah i think thats exactly what i did . Like i said this was my first time transplanting any kind of plant :( lol so it was a big gamble but yeah the dirt cracked about half way through and exposed all the roots probaly why the plant killed off all the leafs and sent all its energy to its flower to help keep it alive, iunno just a theory.:rasta:

P.S can someone tell me how to turn my reputation back on i honestly dont know wtf i did to turn it off lmao. thnx .:thumbsup:

[Sensimilla420]

:hippy: Remeber Im a nOob :hippy:

Ok so i just went and checked on my plants and ie can distictly make out i very dark purple almost brown starting on my lbranches and top of the stem . Everything is covered in white hairs crystals and smells fucking amazing, pardon my french , lmao. :rasta:

My question is is this beacuse this is gunna be some sorta purple strain or is that a nutrition proplem or is just maturing ? wish i could get a pic of it but all i have is my cell phone so its not that great. ill try .:pimp:

[Sensimilla420]

Heres some pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

One more!!!!!:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

looking good man :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[CovertCarpenter]

...in that they are starting to look good, mon!

Yeah, it sounds like you had a bit of transplant shock there, but things seem to be coming back nicely!

Keep up the good work :)

[Sensimilla420]

Thnx everyone!!!:thumbsup: And im gunna try to keep some daily pics up. i just went and checked up on them and my branchy plant as so much inner node growth going on after the rains last night it doesnt even look like the same plant as before lol. Going to a job interview now will pst pics when i get home.:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Thnx everyone!!!:thumbsup: And im gunna try to keep some daily pics up. i just went and checked up on them and my branchy plant as so much inner node growth going on after the rains last night it doesnt even look like the same plant as before lol. Going to a job interview now will pst pics when i get home.:rasta:

Your roots should look like this when you re pot. And they will if you let the plant dry out first. Here is a before an after. With the way it should look in between the re pot. There should never be stress when doing a re pot, never, if you let the plant dry out. You should be able to pull your plant out from time to time to check your roots.

Just let dry, roll the pot around to loosen on its side and if it doesnt come right out with the stem between your fingers, tap the sides. Should come right out.

The first pic is before re pot. Second is the root ball. And third is 2;45 after re pot. I will post a ''how too'' that iv been planning on doing, but the night i had everything written and pics on, i was booted, but here is half.


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[Sensimilla420]

Heres some pics right after The afternoon thunderstorm !!!!!! They look so happy :hippy:

And yes i believe my proplem with transplant was that i didnt let them dry out and reading back i believe sticky and md both mentioned that. It was my fault but now i know. :rasta::rasta::rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

yeah man thats why i say a first grow is kinda like a trail run the first couple of grows and your skills just keep improving hell mine have and im only like halfway through my first grow and by the end of it im sure ill know alot more well man keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

[Sensimilla420]

Wow after the rains the last 2 nights , my plants look so healthy its unreal . :rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta: will get pics up soon !!!!!!!

[Sensimilla420]

Morniong everyone ,

Ill have some pics up soon but the girls are doing awesome after moving them back in the sun and the rains and mother nature saying . "Let me grow your damn plants for you," they are doing amazing.:rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta:

[Stomper420]

Wow, those things are reaching for the sun big time bro. They are going to 15 feet tall by the time your done..TEE HEE. I watch this tread as Im a newbe also. But I have grown in the past. Ill try and post up some pics of my grow for you to look at...Peace out:rastasmoke:

[Sensimilla420]

morning everyone, so no new pics but the girls are doing amazing. I have bud already yay!!!!!!! wish i had a good camera so i could get a pic of it but my phone gets so blurry when i get close enough to see them.:( But ill try to get sme up anyways. Also i have thc all over the leaves makin them almost look white in the real heavy spots and the whole inside of the pistils and everything is covered in white. Im so exited. :hippy::hippy:

[Stomper420]

Judging by your pics posted just a week or so ago, those are not buds but just new leaves coming out. Those plants are no were near budding yet. Give it time and youll be happier in the end:thumbsup:

[Sensimilla420]

lol yeah in those pics u cant seee the hairs and buds lol my camera phone cant zoom in its gets all blurry wish i could could get a pic up with high def. I figure on the plant i messed up some what ive still got a month month and a half. and the other one probaly 2 months.:rasta::rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

Hey Hey everyone I am back. Srry i was gone got rly bussy with school and stuff . Well the girls are doing amazing have 7 tops on the smaller one and the taller one has a huge top on it ill have pics tomorrow afternoon :rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

hey everyone its been awhile but its pretty much been just grow grow sence last time the girls are looking awesome and im about 5 weeks out from harvest yay!!!! (if my predicted timing is on but it hasnt been this whole grow mother nature is makin me wait for ever:cool:) but i have a proplem . It rains every afternoon almost here and its not just a light storm here in northeast florida being between 2 rivers and on the ocean are storms build up to be flash floods within minutes. well my big strong female can take the pounding with no proplem but my smaller more fragile girl is taking a beatin even with havin it staked up and stuff it still looks as if it has just lost all hope :(. but my QUESTION: will the rain affect the amount of thc that is going to be in my plant. i read somewhere that in dry none windy conditions plants can produce up to 15 percent more thc is this true and if so are my girls gunna be weak beacuse of the rain or?????:rasta::rasta::rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

Heres some pics sorry they suck so bad but hey what can u do :rasta::rasta:

[yankeetoker]

Dude, Bagged seed stragly lookin . Better luck next year?

[crippynights]

They are most prolly like that because of lack of sun. They need full on sun for as long as possible. Shaded sunlight makes the plant shoot up like that to get the sun. Once they have lots of sun, they bush up. Unless its a strain that doesnt. Once in full flowering(not early flowering) they will stop growin and yes the fan leaves will yellow and start to fall off because of budding. Ive lost alot of leaves on one of mine because she focusing all that energy on the buds. No im not and expert, its just shyt I have observed. Im also a newb..







http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/186882-3-kind-but-what-kind.html

[Sensimilla420]

Lol yeah no they look like that cus if u read my post u would understand i had to move them inot the sun and the one that has just a large top, also if u had read, u would have also known that the lower leaves died beacuse of a mistake during transplant. it didnt shoot that far up before it branched out lmao. and also they look beat beacuse of flash flood thunderstorms the past week or so lol. :rasta::rasta::rasta::rasta:

[Sensimilla420]

So This is 3 weeks into budding. How many More do yall think i have i know the avregae plant is like 45 to 55 days after first signs of budding??? the picture doesnt do this thing justice the buds are covered in solid white ill try to get a better pic up and that whole top has grown together all the buds are touching. IM excited i may only ended up with 1 plant!!! and that plant may have been through hell but im gunna be high and thats all the matters:rasta::rasta::rasta: Should i do anything different or just leave it alone?:smokin:

[Sensimilla420]

heres a few more:rasta::rasta: when should i start flushing????? i dont water alot maybe once a week and do single serving nutes when i do so this plant is basically grown on nothing but the nutes that came in the soil by the way was scotts garden soil lol. so its not like this plant has even been grown with alot of nutes anyways.