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[boaz]

Could Be Marijuana That Determines the November Election
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Published June 30th, 2010


The wild card in Novemberâ??s election is marijuana.

How much more money Meg Whitman spends on her gubernatorial campaign is significant but the kind of voters drawn to the polls by Proposition 19, which legalizes marijuana and allows localities to tax and regulate it, may be the determining factor.

Asked at the state Democratic Party convention in April how Democrats can re-energize President Obama voters from 2008, Party Chair John Burton replied: â??Pot.â?�

Without arguing the merits of legalization, Burton said the ballot measure â??will turn out people.â?�

The already high-profile proposition would allow cities and counties to adopt ordinances that license and regulate the â??cultivation, processing, distribution, transportation and saleâ?� of marijuana.

Some estimates say taxing retail sales, which are limited to one ounce to persons 21 years of age or older, could raise up to $1.4 billion annually.

â??There will be national media interest and public curiosity,â?� said Mark Baldassare, president and chief pollster of the Public Policy Institute of California.

â??The question is how much the campaigns will work to engage voters,â?� Baldassare said. â??Will the â??yesâ?? side seek to mobilize young voters who are more inclined to support legalization? Will the â??noâ?? side counter with efforts to get out the vote among older voters less inclined to support legalization?â?�

Supporters of Proposition 19 say no mobilization is necessary â?? the voters are coming to them.

The â??yesâ?� campaign recently noted its number of Facebook friends surpassing 100,000. Proposition 19 supporters note the opposition has only six Facebook friends.

â??This will translate into motivated volunteers, donors, increased voter turnout and 100,000 people spreading the word to their friends and neighbors with a passion and intensity that our opponentsâ?? lonely six fans will never match,â?� said Dan Newman, a spokesman for Tax Cannabis 2010.

â??Our research shows that a large number of occasional voters, particularly younger voters, will show up at the polls specifically to vote for this initiative,â?� Newman said.

An April 2009 Field Poll found 56 percent of California voters supporting legalizing and taxing marijuana. But Newman counters the appeal of the proposition to â??low-propensityâ?� voters means polls donâ??t show the full level of support.

â??It will be the darling of the national media, thatâ??s for sure,â?� said Allan Zaremberg, president of the California Chamber of Commerce.

One of the propositionâ??s major sponsors is S.K. Seymour LLC in Oakland, which does business as Oaksterdam University which bills itself as â??Americaâ??s first cannabis college.â?�

[boaz]

for those of you keeping score at home . . . :jointsmile:

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been a tuff week for cal.leg, but hopefully this will give it a boost. :stoned:

[eastbaygordo]

He's not running much of a campaign yet and is failing the same way Poizner did, letting Meg talk without a counter-voice.

[eastbaygordo]

for those of you keeping score at home . . . :jointsmile:

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been a tuff week for cal.leg, but hopefully this will give it a boost. :stoned:

You can bet on anything can't you?
Thanks for the link.

[boaz]

Pot proponentâ??s mom hits the campaign trail
June 28, 2010

Richard Lee sank $1.4 million of his Oaksterdam business empire's money into putting a marijuana legalization measure on November's ballot, but it wasn't until this week that he rolled out his secret weapon: his 80-year-old, conservative Republican mom from Texas.

Read moreâ?¦ Tax Cannabis 2010 (http://www.taxcannabis.org/)

good luck! if y'all win out there can you please come to Oklahoma next? :D

[boaz]

for those of you keeping score at home . . . :jointsmile:

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been a tuff week for cal.leg, but hopefully this will give it a boost. :stoned:

I think it did. great work everyone, keep it up. :jointsmile: :stoned:

[boaz]

:p :bong:

[gypski]

Those who believe a corporate take over of the US cannabis market should remember, most US corporations are producing their products in China. And, as with everything else from China, its shit, tainted with poisons, fertilized with human wastes, and packaged in sweat shops. If you want to keep control at home, Vote yes on Prop. 19. :D :pimp:

[Islandborn]

Seems a perfect weapon of his..........the righty from TEXAS. Love it.

[boaz]

Seems a perfect weapon of his..........the righty from TEXAS. Love it.

:D no doubt. I thought you might like that. I don't know this dude or anything just from what I've read but he is from Texas :pimp:

he seems legit to me. the dude has the goose that laid the golden egg right now. he owns one of the four authorized medical dispensary in Oaksterdam. and, one might assume, may become the proprietor of the nations very first non medical dispensary :smokin: ... if this prop passes and the local authorities have enuff cojone's to authorize it. :jointsmile:

God bless America. :rastasmoke:

:s4:

[Islandborn]

Hope his mom doesn't scare all the sensitive types that inhabit California. Ive seen the guy in numerous movies and documentaries and his cause is a noble one......he's the kinda nerdy looking guy in a wheelchair? Wears glasses? We'll get this stuff on the ballots here in Texas soon enough.......came THIS close to electing a mayor who was for decriminalization.

Question for those legal beagels on here.......if my state decriminalized marijuana.....would I be able to go back and try to remove misdemeanor marijuana convictions from my criminal record? Even if they were like 11 years ago? Or is there a statute of limitations?

[boaz]

He's not running much of a campaign yet and is failing the same way Poizner did, letting Meg talk without a counter-voice.

how is that battle going, eb? from I've heard both Jerry and Meg are trying to distance themselves from the prop. Its been a looong time since I lived out there but wasn't Brown the mayor of Oaksterdam right after Prop 215 who deputized the dispensary workers to protect them from shrub's gestapo? if so that was really cool of him. but don't tell anyone tho, he might get hammered in the prohib media if they knew that. :jointsmile:

do you think Meg would attack prop 19 if it passes? I would bet she would be more likely that Brown, but I really don't know since I don't live out there anymore.

[Islandborn]

Whitmans winning currently. Rasmussen has it Whitman 51% and Brown 43%....others have it closer....averaged together its a dead heat.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2010 Governor Races (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/governor/election_2010_governor_races.html)

Considering the economic tsunami California is in, it would be fiscaly stupid to go after the marijuana industry, the same applies nationwide. I firmly believe 75% of the nation from all sides. believe marijuana should be legalized.

[pez1975]

Ill be staying up late on Nov. 2. to watch the results come in for sure like a little boy that cant sleep the night before Christmas please Santa make Christmas come early on Nov 2.



P.S i been a very good boy this year Santa and its all I want


:pimp:

[Islandborn]

Well, literally every single day the news gets worse for Democrats in just about every state........if things continue in this manner the Democrats could suffer the biggest electoral mid-term defeat in American History.

The Dems will lose the House......the Senate is a toss-up still but VERY,VERY, CLOSE.:thumbsup:

[boaz]

Ill be staying up late on Nov. 2. to watch the results come in for sure like a little boy that cant sleep the night before Christmas please Santa make Christmas come early on Nov 2.



P.S i been a very good boy this year Santa and its all I want


:pimp:

:D me too! ho ho ho. :rasta: if it does pass there is no doubt in my mind that i will be making the pigramage to oaksterdam for the victory celebration. :smokin:

[boaz]

cal legal recovered nicely in early sept but still short of its 4/20 high. some profit taking going on now. :stoned:

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[boaz]

YesOn19 (http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=702407) spikes to $77! smashing its 4/20 high mark. :smokin: huge volatility on huge volume over the past week. damn I wish I had bought this at $25 when it sunk that low. :rastasmoke:

for the first time its really starting to look to me like this thing could win. :) keep up the great work everyone. :greenthumb: good luck.

[mikeyman]

wonder if there will ever be stocks in a marijuana company? good one lol:rastasmoke::thumbsup:

[boaz]

^ :) yes, i believe there are already! medcan rx or something. :D i bet someone on here knows the ticker. :jointsmile:

[gypski]

^ :) yes, i believe there are already! medcan rx or something. :D i bet someone on here knows the ticker. :jointsmile:

Its gone down, but its still a penny stock so now is the time to buy, buy, buy!!! :D

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[Washedout]

I am asking for the trifecta + 1 in California:
1.Brown for Guv.I know his stance but he will advance in mid term right now he's the top cop.
2.Newsom for Lt.Guv
3.Prop 19 to win
Plus 1 Boxer to retatn her Senate Seat
And I am going home I am sick of Washington State it's so bent and twisted with it's pretzel logic I can't take it anymore. :mad:

[mikeyman]

Its gone down, but its still a penny stock so now is the time to buy, buy, buy!!! :D

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gee the new age ,age of aquarious is here:thumbsup:

[Theym420]

gee the new age ,age of aquarious is here:thumbsup:

A great percentage of todays youth dont know what this is, and what it signifies, i asked one of my friends and he said something along the lines of that was along time ago, when it only began ten years ago(or was supposed to, better late than never), and didn't know what it meant :(

[greenghost]

i vote yes to prop 19 and this is just a portion why.....

Prop 19 will do more good than harm (http://simplecannabis.com/medical-marijuana/prop-19-will-do-more-good-than-harm/)

[Washedout]

Former Surgeon General To Bill Clinton Says Legalise Pot.

YouTube - U.S. Surgeon Gen Legalize Marijuana! "We Criminalize People At The Highest Rate In The World!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olD1SiKoDVA) :thumbsup:

[boaz]

YesOn19 (http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=702407) still trending upwards despite recent weaker poll numbers. :detective1: my money is with the smart money and not with the polls. :jointsmile:

but that said, looks really close in the polls don't forget to vote a week from next Tuesday. :greenthumb:

[mikeyman]

gee i don't know how we can lose this one.Seem like everyone i know wants it legal except for Mom.Its the lies that Dr drew tells and that Steve Cooley tells and that law enfocment tells that confuses some.I got my vote in already:rastasmoke:i'd like to know what planet these people live on??they are clueless as to what is realy going on...These are our leaders ...vote them out:pimp:

[middieman440]

mail in votes,ahh those scare me someone sees the yes vote for mj plop in the garbage,much better to go do it in person...but idk how it works here in cali...i wouldnt trust a mail in vote dont people need to open your mail and cant they just discard it??? i know it's very wrong to do but the state/goverment do as they want!

[boaz]

yeson19 dropped 20 points today. :(

[middieman440]

its gonna drop more to....dont get your hopes up on it passing,all the money growers/dispensories are voting no! so the customers are probably going to vote no as well...so when the no vote goes through don't plan on there being anything about legalization again for a very long time,the thing arnold just signed,basically put the prop 19 to an end..

[boaz]

^ your right it dropped 10 more points to $35. what a shame. it just proves that if growers and buyers are happy with prohibition then it will most likely always exist. :wtf: guess there is Washington next year. :cool:

[boaz]

YesOn19 (http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=702407) paying almost 4 to 1 right now. best return since mid july after RAND report. I say its a buy. :smokin:

[boaz]

Yes on 19 closes at $20/share or 5 to 1 odds, the highest return yet.

c'mon stealth voters, prove 'em wrong. :cool:

[Islandborn]

Yes on 19 closes at $20/share or 5 to 1 odds, the highest return yet.

c'mon stealth voters, prove 'em wrong. :cool:


Yo Boaz.....question. Clearly you know your legal shit....so anyway I was speaking with a fellow grower buddy in the area here with alot of close ties to the California scene. He says that Prop 19 is going down in the polls because its a shitty bill designed by people who own or operate the BIG dispensary operations and the internet sites that go with them. They have the $$ and the bill will let them flourish while making the mom and pop grow ops far to expensive to maintain?

I havent a clue.......whats your thoughts on that.

And does 200$ for 10 feminized seeds of Hawaiin Ice sound ridiculous?

[gypski]

Yes on 19 closes at $20/share or 5 to 1 odds, the highest return yet.

c'mon stealth voters, prove 'em wrong. :cool:

Ya gotta believe. And, on this one, I believe. That's why my attitude is tired, I'm tired of being lied to by elected officials and told I'm wrong when I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am, and everyone of us, is right, not only on this, but many other issues. Do your duty, flash the government the fickle finger and make it happen. :pimp:

[middieman440]

Yo Boaz.....question. Clearly you know your legal shit....so anyway I was speaking with a fellow grower buddy in the area here with alot of close ties to the California scene. He says that Prop 19 is going down in the polls because its a shitty bill designed by people who own or operate the BIG dispensary operations and the internet sites that go with them. They have the $$ and the bill will let them flourish while making the mom and pop grow ops far to expensive to maintain?

I havent a clue.......whats your thoughts on that.

And does 200$ for 10 feminized seeds of Hawaiin Ice sound ridiculous?

read the prop just type in prop 19 into google and read it....

i would never spend 200 bucks for seeds.matter of fact i wont spend over 75....its a rip off mandala has top notch strains for 35 bucks that are probably just as good as mr somas seeds who are in the 100+ range....

[boaz]

Yo Boaz.....question. Clearly you know your legal shit....so anyway I was speaking with a fellow grower buddy in the area here with alot of close ties to the California scene. He says that Prop 19 is going down in the polls because its a shitty bill designed by people who own or operate the BIG dispensary operations and the internet sites that go with them. They have the $$ and the bill will let them flourish while making the mom and pop grow ops far to expensive to maintain?

I havent a clue.......whats your thoughts on that.

And does 200$ for 10 feminized seeds of Hawaiin Ice sound ridiculous?

I say you need to watch that video someone posted in another forum here where the three eyed alien summarized that ^ argurement. :D this bill is also sponsored by Jeff Jones. Anyone out there should know that name. That fact, alone, would get my vote. :greenthumb:

other than that, nada clue. :jointsmile: but ... holy shite $20 bucks a seed, I, personally, could never see shelling :stoned: out that kinda cash for seeds but others probably know more. clones and seeds should be free! :hippy: :jointsmile:

[boaz]

Yo Boaz.....question. Clearly you know your legal shit....so anyway I was speaking with a fellow grower buddy in the area here with alot of close ties to the California scene. He says that Prop 19 is going down in the polls because its a shitty bill designed by people who own or operate the BIG dispensary operations and the internet sites that go with them. They have the $$ and the bill will let them flourish while making the mom and pop grow ops far to expensive to maintain?

I havent a clue.......whats your thoughts on that.

And does 200$ for 10 feminized seeds of Hawaiin Ice sound ridiculous?

I say you need to watch that video someone posted in another forum here where the three eyed alien summarized that ^ arguement. :D this bill is also sponsored by Jeff Jones. Anyone out there should know that name. That fact, alone, would get my vote. :greenthumb:

other than that, nada clue. :jointsmile: but ... holy shite $20 bucks a seed, I, personally, could never see shelling :stoned: out that kinda cash for seeds but others probably know more. good clones and seeds should be free! :hippy: :jointsmile:

[boaz]

^ oops double post, I blame the server. :stoned:

[toldyaso1]

prop19 failed.:thumbsup:

[DocJTre2]

Yea, the failure of this proposition could be a blessing in disguise for the cannabis community. My advice would be for us not to be discouraged by this not passing.

[leadmagnet]

The devil laughing spreads his wings.

[Islandborn]

Seemed like alot of people started reading this bill before the vote and saw it was crap.

[Dutch Pimp]

Seemed like alot of people started reading this bill before the vote and saw it was crap.

yeah...it needed to be more....vague!...:thumbsup:..like..."DO YOU LIKE WEED"?..YES/NO

[middieman440]

the outcome is a fail! 20-40 more yrs we might be able to try again