My Ghetto CFL grow box. WITH PICS!

[TheBudReaper]

Hi everyone. This is my very frist grow!:clap: So that being said. I am looking for advise. I have been reading around the forum for a while. And decided, I want to grow weed too!
This is not a serious commercial grow or what ever. Just a guy with a couple bucks to spend and a deep passion for all that is cannabis.


On to the good stuff

Here are my mats.
2x 42 watt CFL 15.00
4x 26 watt CFL 10.00
2x Y socket splitter 5.00
4x socket to outlet thing 6.00
1x bag of Supersoil Potting soil 10.00
1x bag of 12-10-5 nutes ( Extended release N ) 5.00
4X random size pots FREE
2x extension cords FREE
1x 7socket extension cord FREE
1x 3x4x1 grow box FREE

[TheBudReaper]

A mirror fell on one of mah babies yesterday ( a result of me trying to put some reflection in the GB ) And about a week ago one of the lights fell on the other one... Luckly not burning it at all ( this ones fine now )

Oh shit forgot to say what kind of plants these are. So I have 3 bag seed sprouts and 2x 3 week old " UK cheese " Ive herd good things about this strain.

PIC TIME!
1st pic plant 1 at 2-3 days after receiving clone
2nd pic plant 2 ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
3rd pic plant 1 at about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks old
4th pic plant 2 ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
5th pic My plant nutes i got. Just woundering what everones thoughts were on extended release N

[TheBudReaper]

Who knew making threads were so time consuming! lol

MORE PICS

1st pic Grow set up.

2nd pic plant 1 current. about 3 weeks

3rd pic plant 2 ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^

I dont have a good camera, so I used to bottle to give people an idea of how big they are, that is a 2 liter bottle.
If I had to estimate though, I would say about a foot tall, maybe a foot and 1/2, but thats just my estimate

[TheBudReaper]

One plant is looking a little weird because the mirror fell on it, I think she'll be fine.
But I think I am ready to start flowing them. Input anyone?

I see some white hairs, on plant 1

Didnt check plant 2 yet.

And if/when i do end up flowering them, i would just take out the sprouts and put them up some where. So I would have a total of.. 184w on two plants. Does this sounds resonable? And I applyed my nutes almost right after i got it like 5 days ago


Stop bye some time check it out and add your :twocents: Thanks guys/girls will be posting up dates and replying to you guys damn near daily

[bigsby]

You will want to keep these short and bush in order to maximize light. Consider LST or tying them down. Check out this link for a tutorial. (http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/239247/fpart/2/vc/1) I'm not a CFL person so I can't give you accurate advice but if I had to say something, I'm thinking you want more light. Check out the El-Cheapo Guide to Lighting sticky in the indoor lighting forum.

Yes. time to switch to 12/12 flower. You can expect those plants to at least double in size and perhaps triple depending on the strain. Good luck!

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah size of the plants will be a problem.

I think i might try LST.

But should i LST then flower? or LST then wait x amount of time then flower?

[bigsby]

Yeah size of the plants will be a problem.

I think i might try LST.

But should i LST then flower? or LST then wait x amount of time then flower?

I believe it is covered in the tutorial. From what I recall, You want to do most of your training during veg but can continue into the first few weeks of flower. It will add a bit of time to length of grow.

[truepunk87]

looks good bro.

[TheBudReaper]

Thanks dude!

Started flowering yesterday bought a couple timers for like 4 bucks each

The stem that I took off plant one ( due to mirror falling on it ) I stuck it in the dirt with my other sprouts and after a day of droopyness or soo it is looking good! So i guess i have a ghetto clone of my UK cheese =):thumbsup:

[truepunk87]

hells yea. going to get timers for mine today. not time for bud yet but figured i should get them while we got the money. check out my thread "poor babies" ill be checking in on u later bro:)

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah dude get em fast! Usually if i put it off for the next day i end up spending the money on something else. Ill for sure check yours out!

UPDATE!

plant 1 & plant 2 ( UK Cheese (Cheese x sensi star i bealeave ) Second day flowering

Sprouts x3 ( bagseed ) branch that fell off plant 1 ( ghetto cloned! ) All in a rubber-maid stasis chamber I call it LOL.

Pics are on the way!

[TheBudReaper]

pics 1 & 2 day 2 flowering


pics 3 & 4 Outside box and inside box

[TheBudReaper]

Oh yeah I have the fan running ever 30 min, also on timer. Theres a hole on the other side so its going through.

Just using the big fan til i get smaller ones

[TheBudReaper]

Raised the lights about .5 inch, White hairs starting at the top and all down about 4 nodes. Day 3 flowering
will post pics later.

[truepunk87]

wow three days and hairs already....nice. cant wait for the pics.

[TheBudReaper]

Pics as promised

[TheBudReaper]

Alot of growth on plant #1 ( the one with the wide pot ) in a one day time span

[truepunk87]

yea bro. them doing fantastic. look healthy as hell. wish the yellow would get off mine. only 13 more days till i start 12/12:thumbsup: major props on the grow reaper

[TheBudReaper]

They got too big for my wardrobe i had them in. Put em in a dresser i cleared out thats about 4 x 2 x 1 Same lights on it.

[TheBudReaper]

Day 5

[truepunk87]

yup......definetly some healty girls.

[TheBudReaper]

Put up a big ass mirror on the back side of the dresser ( a piece of wood was there before )... Huge difference. Day 7 white hairs forming on every node.

[TheBudReaper]

Err this is the 6th day of flowering

[truepunk87]

hows the mirror working out for ya? i never even thought of that but i guess it would work

[TheBudReaper]

I thinks its great. Maybe a degree or two higher than normal but thats a maaaybe. Even if it did not a proble. But the amount of light that that freaking mirror reflects is crazy. The sides are getting alot more light which is good.



Can dust be a big problem for my little ones in my box?

[truepunk87]

honestly i was wondering the same thing. when i turned man fan off this morning it seem that my fan gotta lot of dust build up. idk if it a bad thing......maybe someone with more experience can help us out on that:thumbsup: but other that the dust on the fan everything seem to be fine.

[neceros]

I would be careful with mirrors. Most likely that will cause more hotspots. Probably would be better just to use white pvc coverings. Just reflect the light, not the heat.

[TheBudReaper]

Well it doesnt seem too hot in there. How will I be able to tell if the heat is getting to be a problem?

[bigsby]

Listen to neceros and get a thermometer although that will not help you identify hot spots as they are spot local!

[TheBudReaper]

Personally. I don't know too much about hot spots. But i look at my plants everyday more than once a day. So im closely monitoring them for any signs of sickness or burning.

Will get other reflective material next grow. Keeping this one simple and ghetto LOL

[truepunk87]

definetly feel ya on the keep it simple and ghetto. some of us not got all the cash to get all the nice,proper supplies. whatever works for ur budget and gets the results u want:thumbsup:

[TheBudReaper]

Im at the E.R. right now on my laptop. Might need surgery done on my leg:(


Found some cool stuff in the drawers tho that are in the room! Got some stuff that are like sandwich ties and from rubbery tubes and some rubber mask type things. Gunna use the ties for LST'ing my little ones.


If you keep your eyes open you never know what you can find that will help out your grow

[TheBudReaper]

Out of the E.R. got surgery done on my leg. Shit looks gross.

Bouta chill out smoke some herb and watch a movie or somthing. Will post pics tomor!:jointsmile:

[truepunk87]

hey bro. hope ya get back to good health.. what happend that they had to do surgery? get better so u can get back to taking good care of them girls u got:D take it easy man

[TheBudReaper]

Thanks dude. Its pretty gross. I had like an absess on my leg from an infection. And they had to cut it open and drain it. Now I have to like.. keep the wound open and shit with gauze every night. It sucks big time.


But still taking care of my girls!

Pics as promised

[TheBudReaper]

More pics...
:thumbsup:

[TheBudReaper]

In the last two pics.. Do my leaves looked deformed or nute burned?

[truepunk87]

looking good!! and they look a tiny bit deformed. wouldnt say it nute burn

[TheBudReaper]

fucking bagseed LOL .. I have started to put my little ones through LST today. Had some sandwich tie things. I wraped it around the stem after the little round leaves that first form on the plant. Im going to wrap them both in the same direction all the way around the pot. Hopefully i am doing this right!
:hippy:
Comments and tips are welcomed!

[TheBudReaper]

Woops forgot pics

[TheBudReaper]

Both the deformed and regular looking plan are bending up well. :thumbsup: so a couple more nodes imma tie em down again.

[TheBudReaper]

Found a bug on one of the little ones. Looked like it was brown and eating the bottom of the leaf. I took it off with a napkin and crushed it. I left my window open all night. So im hoping it was just that one bug in there and none got to my babies that are flowering!



Will post pics tomorrow. :hippy:

[neceros]

Get some mite remover just in case.

[truepunk87]

yea definetly try and find some neem oil just to be on the safe side :thumbsup: normly if theres 1, there will b more, in my experiences anyways:cool:

[TheBudReaper]

Where can i get that at?

Woke up htis morning with some discoloration on the one in the pot by it self.

Ive had a bad experience with fucking bugs!

[TheBudReaper]

all of those dead due to bugs ( i tossed em once the leafs turned to shit )

[truepunk87]

u gotta hydro store near u???? or u can get some insect soap at home depot bro. here this might help.....stolen. sorry. If your plants are growing vegetatively you have quite a few options. First you can wash them with a moderately vigorous spray to knock down the mite population. This will help the plants by lessening their loss of vital juices. Prepare a spray with a teaspoon of real soap such as Dr. Bronner's peppermint or eucalyptus liquid soap per gallon of water, or spray with Safer's horticultural soap to help dislodge and suffocate the pests. Mites are found on the underside of the leaves and must be sprayed there. If the plants are small or easy to handle it might be easier to dip them in the soapy water. Spraying can remove most but not all the mites, and it doesn't remove the eggs.

A small mite infection left unchecked is a temporary condition. So it is unwise to go into flowering with infected plants. The problem is that after the plants are one third of the way through flowering, two to three weeks, you want to avoid spraying with water or soapy water to wash off the suckers.

Mites must be eliminated before forcing or when they attack plants in the early stages of flowering. If not they will multiply with disastrous results. The skimpy buds will be low quality and covered with dead mites. It's not an enjoyable smoke.

Spraying can be used to control mites through the vegetative stage and for the first two or three weeks of flowering. However, other means must be used to get the plants to the zero tolerance level. By far the easiest method is to use an acceptable miticide.

There are several commercial miticides that can be used early in the season to kill mites.

Pyrethrum has been used to kill mites. It is a natural pesticide produced by a close relative of the chrysanthemum. The problem with using it is that many races of mites have developed immunity to it. However, it is the first miticide you should try.

Cinnamite comes as a concentrate that is diluted and sprayed on the plants. It contains a miticide derived from cinnamon oil. It is very safe and is rated least hazardous. It is quite effective but it doesn't kill the eggs. It should be used every three days for two weeks to make sure all the mites are killed soon after they hatch. It is a contact spray so plants should be dipped or sprayed on the leaf undersides. It is also effective against powdery mildew.

Neem oil is a natural miticide derived from the nuts of the Neem tree, which is found in India. It is a mite repellent as well, so some gardeners use it as a prophylactic, spraying it on a weekly basis. I mix neem oil with Cinnamite to eliminate small infections. Cinnamite and neem oil are also used against powdery mildew.

For growers who distrust anything commercial, try an ?herbal tea? that acts as a miticide. To each quart of water use a tablespoon each of ground cinnamon, ground clove and 2 tablespoons of ground Italian seasoning. Heat the mixture until it starts to simmer, then turn off the heat. Add 2 tablespoons crushed fresh garlic when the water cools to warm. Let the tea sit until it cools. Strain and save the water using a cloth or coffee filter. Add a few drops of liquid soap or dishwashing liquid to the water. It is ready to be sprayed on the leaf undersides. After spraying the mites off with water, spray it on the leaf undersides. It will eliminate the mites if it is sprayed every three days after the wash. Within two weeks the mites will probably be gone.

Avid is a miticide registered for ornamental plants. Its active ingredient is abamectin, a derivative of a toxin originally found in soil bacteria. Avid is not registered for use on vegetables except in certain restricted situations. Other brands of abamectin such as AgriMek by Syngenta are registered for a wide range of crops. The AgriMek label calls for a minimum of a seven day wait between application and harvest. I wouldn't use marijuana if I knew it was treated with this pesticide during the last few weeks of flowering.

Some gardeners have reported success controlling mites using predatory mites or other predators. These carnivorous mites reach an equilibrium with the herbivorous mites, keeping damage to a bare minimum. I have tried introducing mixed species of predatory mites a few times but have never been satisfied with the results. They did not get the problem under control. However, they can work and some gardeners swear by them. I probably didn't provide them with the right conditions. There are also other predators that eat mites, but I have no experience using them.

Ultimately, the solution to the mite problem and the pest problem in general is to prevent the garden from becoming infected. Following certain simple rules will help:
Wear freshly washed clothes or change into a garden outfit when going into the garden.

good luck bro

[TheBudReaper]

Fortunately I dont have mites! Just a stupid beetle of some kind im sure.


That tea stuff though i might try out. I think I have all the stuff for it.

Thanks truepunk for all the info
:S3: lol funny smiley

[TheBudReaper]

Leaves on the bottom on one of my plants that are flowering has some dieing leaves on the bottom of it and the leaves after the ones that are dying are browning. Other plant, same strain just shorter, doesnt have any of these problems.


Here are the pics... Advise needed!:(

[truepunk87]

Leaves on the bottom on one of my plants that are flowering has some dieing leaves on the bottom of it and the leaves after the ones that are dying are browning. Other plant, same strain just shorter, doesnt have any of these problems.


Here are the pics... Advise needed!:(

here......this always helps me .... Cannabis Nutrient Disorders (http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/nutrientdisorders_guide.php)

[TheBudReaper]

Thanks truepunk for the link bro.




No one is really posting on this thread. Ill post pics in a couple months to wrap this thread up

[Wantukcheese]

Fantastic grow, Love to take you up on your offer. Iv curently got ak47, budda cheese and ultimate, but the uk cheese is the one iv had and been dying for

[TheBudReaper]

So they are about 2 and a half weeks into flowering. Im planning to reveg one of em into a momma. So itl be a little bit before i can start making clones. But keep in touch with me. Do you have pics of your plants?

[Wantukcheese]

just started a grow log,
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/187686-yet-another-grow.html

were abouts are you in uk.

[TheBudReaper]

I live in Cali. I got my two clones from a club down here

[Wantukcheese]

cali as in usa? as cant find a cali in uk

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah california!

[TheBudReaper]

Buds and leaves around em are starten to get really frosty!

[TheBudReaper]

Plucked out 2 males outa the 3 bag seed plants. Glad i caught em right when i noticed it. :thumbsup: No seeds in my weed bro:jointsmile:

[TheBudReaper]

**UPDATE** DAY 25


This is what it looked like on day 20

[TheBudReaper]

now present day

[truepunk87]

looking good:thumbsup:

[TheBudReaper]

Thanks dude. Im trying to find some more lights to buy. And im learning alot about the basics of lighting. This grow was never ment to yeild or be bomb. But just to really see hands on what its like to grow and what ill need for the future to make it that much better:)

[TheBudReaper]

added two more CFL's .. Total of 6 27 watt. 1,750 lumen. 5000k
2 42 watt 2,600 lumen. 2700k
1 19 watt. Dont know ext amount of lumens.
6 x 1750 = 10,500 lumens
2 x 2600 = 5,200
=____________________
15,700 lumens
The lights could be closer. Im growing in a closet but my plants are on one side . Id say about 1 1/2 ft. x 2 x 7ft.
So about 6,000 lumens per square foot about?

[TruePyroman]

ever thought of using t5s? I was growing with 2 3ft 2bulb t5s, and 4 23w CFLs, that's all I had in my veg cabinet, and would grow ~4 in 1 gal pots and ~6 in solo cups. I got my t5s from HomeDepot or Lowes, not sure which, only thing I'm not too excited about was the spectrum, 3500k, but they still worked( and are still working today ) So I until I get the funding for some HighOutput 2700k, I'll use the bulbs they came with.

Just something to think about because the CFLs produce a little more heat than the t5s. and the t5s cover more area.

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah ive looked up a bunch of stuff for t5 lighting.
I just need the cash! I would love to keep up CFL growing and not just get an HPS ( for now ).
Forgot in last post. im also using 2x 15 watt tube fluros for under lighting. Want to get those pop corn buds a little bigger!:D

The lst'ing on the plant thats about a week into flowering is going well.
Hopefully on week 5 the buds on the main cola will be connected. I hear this is a 9 week flower strain. So thats what im going to do!

[truepunk87]

Looking good bro. Doing a fine job. I think u getting the hang of it:thumbsup:

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah next grow will be tons better!

But stay tuned as this one is not quite finnished!
Right before week 4:wtf: Looken aight i guess

[TheBudReaper]

:wtf::wtf::wtf:

[TheBudReaper]

Trimmed the smaller popcorn nugs at the bottom of each plant. Hopefully this will make the buds at the top grow bigger. maybe 5 nodes per plant

[oturbojoeo4o]

added two more CFL's .. Total of 6 27 watt. 1,750 lumen. 5000k
2 42 watt 2,600 lumen. 2700k
1 19 watt. Dont know ext amount of lumens.
6 x 1750 = 10,500 lumens
2 x 2600 = 5,200
=____________________
15,700 lumens
The lights could be closer. Im growing in a closet but my plants are on one side . Id say about 1 1/2 ft. x 2 x 7ft.
So about 6,000 lumens per square foot about?

im glad you got some more lighting in there...

dude i went to lowes and built my own mini HPS its a 70watter but i bet you could benefit from have it in your cab...

the link is in my sig...and i explained how i made it pretty good. cost about 40-50 bucks, add it in with your CFLs, might get a better yield, atleast some red spectrum, i see your using all cool white CFLs, get some warm ones for flowering.

i dont know, keeping it simple and ghetto is the way to go, and build on it every grow, its fucking addicting man haha

[oturbojoeo4o]

actually if you dont wanna run through all my pages

Grow Marijuana FAQ, Cannabis cultivation - marijuana growing tips & photos (http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/1151.htm)

theres the link to the instructions i used...i didnt put the bulb socket in a lil box like they did...

good luck, dont forget to check on my first 400w growcab in my sig too

[drudown11]

Yeah ive looked up a bunch of stuff for t5 lighting.
I just need the cash! I would love to keep up CFL growing and not just get an HPS ( for now ).
Forgot in last post. im also using 2x 15 watt tube fluros for under lighting. Want to get those pop corn buds a little bigger!:D

The lst'ing on the plant thats about a week into flowering is going well.
Hopefully on week 5 the buds on the main cola will be connected. I hear this is a 9 week flower strain. So thats what im going to do!

T5's are a really good choice for small areas where heat is an issue. They run really cool and you can place them really close to the plants. CFL's actually put out quite a bit of heat and if you have 10 or so in your grow cab, Its probably comparable to the heat of of HPS bulb.


If you have the money, i would make the investment ito t5's. Your could also drop your CFL's down the side for additional side lighting. Mixing the spectrum by giving it 6500k abd 2700k bulbs should also bring out a little more resin during flower.

[TheBudReaper]

Yeah. I start school soon. So im gunna get alot of grant money. Im gunna hook it up next grow!:thumbsup:

today is week four day two

[TheBudReaper]

actually if you dont wanna run through all my pages

Grow Marijuana FAQ, Cannabis cultivation - marijuana growing tips & photos (http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/1151.htm)

theres the link to the instructions i used...i didnt put the bulb socket in a lil box like they did...

good luck, dont forget to check on my first 400w growcab in my sig too

Damn that is some good info you linked up. I for sure will come back to that .. Thanks oturbojoeo4o!

[faderharley]

I just rapped up my 1st grow. I purchased and used:
(six) CFL Sunlite Daylight, 85watt/350watt, 6500k, 4200 lumen
(eight) CFL Sunlite Warm White, 105 watt/400watt, 2700k, 5000 lumen
10 clamp on light fixtures
I use an aero-hydro grow system. Looking forward for more photos of your grow, good luck

[oturbojoeo4o]

Damn that is some good info you linked up. I for sure will come back to that .. Thanks oturbojoeo4o!

its all about helpin each other out and tokin up at the same time...

what are you in school for...i got grants that covered almost half my tuition...plus i got financial aid that was over my remaining balance...so ill have like 3k to play with...and i get 10 years to pay it off lol

new growtent and hyrdo setup here i come! thanks obama

[oturbojoeo4o]

I just rapped up my 1st grow. I purchased and used:
(six) CFL Sunlite Daylight, 85watt/350watt, 6500k, 4200 lumen
(eight) CFL Sunlite Warm White, 105 watt/400watt, 2700k, 5000 lumen
10 clamp on light fixtures
I use an aero-hydro grow system. Looking forward for more photos of your grow, good luck

throw up a grow log harley! i wanna see you hydrosetup

[TheBudReaper]

Il get some pics up soon. Im taken computer programing, spanish, college prep, and water coloring! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[oturbojoeo4o]

Il get some pics up soon. Im taken computer programing, spanish, college prep, and water coloring! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

mas mota por favor...

my mom side lives in el salvador... they own a pharma company...make all kinds of medicines

i wonder how good bud will grow outdoors there :)

[seanwatkins91]

I thinks its great. Maybe a degree or two higher than normal but thats a maaaybe. Even if it did not a proble. But the amount of light that that freaking mirror reflects is crazy. The sides are getting alot more light which is good.



Can dust be a big problem for my little ones in my box?

yo dude something that will make your plants grow a lot bigger would be to take out the mirror you are using. mirrors absorb a lot of light and you want something that reflects light to increase your light in the grow area. i would suggest getting the glossy white poster boards and line the dresser with those. or paint it white but the poster boards would be cheaper. white is the best color to reflect light, plus considering the small space your plants are in, you would be getting tons of light onto the sides of your plants and dramatically increase your yield.

[seanwatkins91]

Put up a big ass mirror on the back side of the dresser ( a piece of wood was there before )... Huge difference. Day 7 white hairs forming on every node.

yo you need to throw up some white or mylar in there for reflection.
mirrors absorb a ton of light and you need something to reflect your light.
i suggest by getting white glossy poster boards. this is the cheapest way to line your grow area with. if you have white throughout your entire grow space, mainly because your space is small, you with see a significant difference in your yield.

[TheBudReaper]

Got tired of posting. Harvested about a zip and half of one, needed weed choped the otherone down kinda early and made hash.:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:



END

[catbuds]

Hey budreaper! I'm posting to de-bunk something I read on the other forum I just jumped from. You know which one I mean. I have a BS in hort (1974), worked in commercial greenhouses forever, grown & bred weed for over 40 yrs & kinda resented the info I read over 'there' that said fluorescents were for beginners. NOT TRUE! Hurricane Sandy f'ed my house roof, I'm living in a camper for now, sm disability check, running EVERYTHING on two extention cords, & I'm growing & BUDDING with fluorescents! Yeah, they're T5's, 2' gro lights on each end, 4' 2 tube grolight down the center pointed up for under lighting. Throw in a few red LED party lights for the last two wks of flowering for a little red spectrum. Not a hefty harvest, but good buds, fast turnover, enough for personal to tide me over between outdoor grows. If you can get your lumens & spectrum where you need them to be, the actual light source is not important. I LOVE fluorescents, they cheaply suit my purpose. Doesn't make me an amateur, just makes me cheap & that's fine with me. My space is 2 1/2' x 4 1/2' up to about 4 1/2' if I need it for stretch in bud. So don't think you have to spend a lot of money to make things work. As long as its a small personal grow, small plants, this is all you need. I would recomend up grading to the T5's when ever you can afford it, less heat & higher light output. So don't let anybody kick you in the teeth & feel like you need to spend a lot of money to be a 'real grower'. That's BS. Growing conservatively GREATLY reduces the risk of getting busted too. (Just don't show everybody. Pissed off 'friends' can turn rat really quick).
-- So feel confident in your grow & the way you're doing it. ~~~PEACE!~~~ :) :) :)

P.S. I know this is an older thread, but when I read your post & saw the link from the 'other' forum, I just felt the need to de-bunk some bullshit. So hopefully some beginners (or someone just wanting to get started) will see this & not be discouraged or intimidated. Not just beginners, but anyone on a low fixed income. Just tired of bullys.

[Shovelhandle]

Yut, Budreaper has not posted here in over two years. And this thread has no mention the value of florescent lighting. Was this meant for some other thread, Cat? I started out indoor growing with the same fluorescent fixture I currently use. With the proper care you can grow a great stash for little money for the electrical energy and very low heat byproduct. Below is from my early grow log here on cannabis.com.

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[catbuds]

Ha! More than another thread, its a messed up link from another forum! LMAO! (The growery). They were kinda bashing fluorescent lights. I got pissed & jumped in to defend. Budreaper had linked to this thread for some fluorescent grow pics, I came over & looked, went back to the growery to reply to his post, but my post ended up here. That's why I edited with the ps. That was kinda strange. I've had posts end up on other threads that weren't the ones I was on, but that's the first time I've ever had my post jump forums. I didn't even know that was possible! Maybe my phone's messing up again. Had a virus so I downloaded a program to clean it up yesterday, so its possible that didn't work so well. Hey, it's a smart ph on stupid pills! Expect anything, this wouldn't be the first android to crash on me. I need another computer. Actually less complicated.
-- Babies are looking good. A little long in the stem because I couldn't get them close enough to the light without raising them off of the heating mat, & I didn't want to do that yet because its cold in here. But nice straight fat & sturdy little stem that won't fall over as these first sets of 3 leaflets start to unfurl. Yep, they're peaking out already. Good color, good growth. Gotta defend the fluorescents! Can't see the good genetics without good lighting. ( that actually made me mad enough to consider dropping the 'other' forum! Am I being too touchy?) :) :) :)

[Maxed Out]

Stick to your guns there Catbuds, and go with what works for you. Nobody will ask what they were grown under when you are smokin' em.