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esc420pot
06-29-2010, 05:44 AM
Can i turn any clone into a mother plant? Like if my mother died, but i had clones, am i able to just turn one of the clones into a new mother plant?? And also, when taking clones do they lose it's potency or anything of that matter? i get the feeling if i take a clone and grow it to a mother, then it will be weaker then the orgional mother it came from? Anyhelp is greatly appriciated, thanks.

bigsby
06-29-2010, 11:16 AM
Yes you can turn any clone into a mother. It is a clone so it is an exact copy of the original. There is no loss of potency. That is a myth.

esc420pot
06-29-2010, 01:15 PM
Yes you can turn any clone into a mother. It is a clone so it is an exact copy of the original. There is no loss of potency. That is a myth.

thankyou so much this was really buggin me.
I also got another question, what causes you'r plant to go hermie? i herdcutting to many leaves off could do this? And im a bit worried cause iv cutt off a good bit cause they worn't gettin light...

bigsby
06-29-2010, 02:31 PM
Stress cause hermies, that and bad genetics. You can stress you plant by messing with the light schedule or having a light leak in your room. You can stress them in other ways too but this is the most common issue. Trimming fan leaves is not likely to be a factor although you don't want to over do it. There is no reason to trim unless leaves are dying, or if they are blocking light from bud sites and even then there is debate on this issue.

esc420pot
06-29-2010, 02:51 PM
Stress cause hermies, that and bad genetics. You can stress you plant by messing with the light schedule or having a light leak in your room. You can stress them in other ways too but this is the most common issue. Trimming fan leaves is not likely to be a factor although you don't want to over do it. There is no reason to trim unless leaves are dying, or if they are blocking light from bud sites and even then there is debate on this issue.

ah perfect, thanks buddy. I really appriciate it.

GanjaThump
06-30-2010, 01:00 AM
I'm on my 14th generation of cloning from my healthiest plants 2 weeks before moving them to bud cycle as I don't use a mother, and I was wondering if the same rule applies for this type of practice?

Being this far into it, I haven't noticed any change in the end results, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask someone with a lot more experience if there is a possibility for the strains to become inert. Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

bigsby
06-30-2010, 01:18 AM
If you are referring to me, I don't have a lot more experience. That is certain. I may have done more reading. ;)

Everything I have read says that a clone is just that, an exact copy of the mother and that you can keep it going into perpetuity. I have seen the posts out there that claim that this type of cascading cloning leads to less potent yields however, they are debunked by far more scientific sources. Sorry I can't point to them. I like to document when I make statements of fact. I'll see if I can dig it out.

GanjaThump
06-30-2010, 01:26 AM
I have read a lot of literature but I've not come across anything "concrete" on this subject. If you can point me in the right direction or have a link to more on this matter, that would be way cool! :thumbsup:

Thanks!

bigsby
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
I knew this was going to send me searching anyway. Have a look at this thread (http://www.gardenscure.com/420/propagation/74840-clones-clones-clones-clones-etc.html) There is all kinds of info here on cloning. Seems you can clone a plant as many generations as you like or close enough for our purposes... It is worth reading through a few pages. I'm on page 4...

GanjaThump
07-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Now that was a good thread! Very informative. I feel more confident now to continue on with my generational cloning method. Thanks for the digg Bigs! You definitely found a gold nugget! 21 Thump Salute to Bigs!

bigsby
07-01-2010, 11:05 PM
Did you find the DIY aero-cloner? Simple to make and almost fool proof.

bigsby
07-02-2010, 01:23 AM
Here is the tutorial that I followed (http://www.cannabis.com/growing/advanced_hydroponics-building-a-cheapo-aero-cloning-tub.html) except that I drilled 1" holes and inserted 2" long PVC piping which I had to glue in place. Mine is small. 12 sites. The whole thing cost me less than $25 although I found the air pump and hoses at a yard sale for $2... The rest came from Walmart.

GanjaThump
07-03-2010, 03:44 AM
That's quite a set up, but being that I'm "old school", I've stayed with growing in organic soil mix and clone in root riot cubes. I thought about switching to growing hydro, but that's like teaching an old hippie new tricks. I've had my routine down for so long now, that starting something I'm not too familiar with would take my efforts off of growing and on to learning and maintaining a new system with new problems. Being that I have the responsibility of being a caregiver, I don't want to chance it and end up making mistakes that can't be fixed if you know what I mean. The instructions and details were put together nicely though. Someone went through a lot of time and effort to help others improve their system. Way cool!:thumbsup: