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Zeffer
06-23-2010, 09:14 PM
First off - Thank you, " every-good-soul " for your grateful deadicated research and information. Consider yourselves a positive force in this society of the USA....I' m very new at growing.
My set up consists of 12 bucket / pod, Ebb & Fa- Fa- fuey Flow,
55 gal. water supply with a 2{+ / - .5} gal. reservoir , massive LED.. right now it' s on the low setting !
Plenty bright... I know that's not very exact but... let's just say, "the light,
temps and humidity are all good "....70's*f with humidity 40-60%
So at each stage of grow from germination to flower, how does one know
what the numbers should be ! ? like, What nutrients does the plant need and when ?
Like, i take the seedling and dip it in (...............) because it has ........
just what a seedling needs ! Then the transplant to the ( What ) because i have the hydroton grow ( ceramic pebbles ) i was thinking, put them in
little plastic cups with holes in the bottom, then into the 5 gal. buckets full
of the hydroton pebbles ... making sure the roots are close enough to the water but NOT so close, that they stay wet, all the time....feed the seedlings by hand at this point in time to keep better track of water supply at first.... So at seedling stage, what nutes do they need ? Is there a mixture or solution to mix in the water that i feed to the seedlings... What do they need ? like N-P-K.... But what else do they need ! Is there a mixture that includes everything they need at different stages of growth ? At seedling stage what balance of what nutrients do they need ! ?... Yeah, i guess that's my question... That's a reasonable question / request uh !
Zeffer
Zeffer
06-23-2010, 10:22 PM
Greetings, ( not greedy ! ) fellow growers. Pat yourselves on the back
for creating a better society in which we live... This is the very question
that i have posted today. What nutes should be given, at the different
stages of growth, from seedlings to flowering ?
So here's a list of what was sent to me from the Wonderful people at
plantlightinghydroponics.com .....with my order of the Ebb & Flo system.
These people are the best in customer service too !
...this stuff was just in the containers !
technaflora plant products ltd.
B.C. boost 3-0-2
B.C. bloom 1-4-7
B.C. grow 1-3-6
root tech.
magical = cal. magnesium and iron
awesome blossoms 2-11-11
thrive alive B-1 ( red ) ( from technaflora ) 1-1-1
thrive alive B-1 ( green ) " 1-1-1
Root 66 ( from technaflora ) 1-1-1
Ok so those are the nutrients in my possession !
and basically i would be so grateful to know when to use these nutes...I' ll figure out the doses, just need to know when ! ?
Thanks again for any advise or directions.
Zeffer
SpaceNeedle
06-25-2010, 04:31 AM
Well, I will try to answer both in one response...
for hydroponics it is imperative you KNOW what your hydroponic solution consists of. Number 1 water
Number 2 nutrients
In order to know what your water is like, and know how much nutrients you have in your hydroponic systems, you need measuring devices, or meters. If you want to be successful in hydroponics you have to have them. I don't care what brand or make, but there is no other way but to purchase a meter for your water, and your nutrients. I would say you can get both for about $25 each. The one that measures the acidity of your water is the PH meter. Sterilized water has a PH of 7, which is known as 'neutral'. For our plants we need a lower PH, especially in seedlings and very young plants. The meter that reads the nutrients is called EC/PPM meter. This meter can't tell you have "Big bud" nutrients in there or any other fancy name that the grow shop says you need. All it tells you that distilled water has a PPM (parts per million) of 0. PPMs are needed in each phase of the plant as it goes thru the seedling stage thru to harvest time.
Seedlings: From the very day you set a seed out, you have to keep it most, warm and in water with a PH of around 5.6 give or take .5
There should be no nutrients added to the water until they have developed roots. That means your PPM meter should not be any higher than say 100
Young plants in the 18/6 stage, that is veg room:
Your water should be in the high 5 PH range... something like 5.7 would be ideal. The PPM should be around the 600 range.
Flowering plants would have an ideal PH of about 6
PH
The PPMs of flowering changes thru its say, 2 months it is in flowering, and everybody has different theories. I will try to give a median, for anyone to start on, and then you could change it according to your taste, or strain or whatever you want. I will go thru my stages, that I use. I use only GH 3 part, and don't believe in the expensive 'boosters' to bolster your yield, or is it their pocket book?
When my plants come out of the veg room they have been used to 600PPMs. So now they've been transplanted into a larger pot, their light is changed from a metal halide lamp to now going under high pressure sodium light. This is a stressful time for the plant, and I generally start them off around 800 PPM and I make sure the lights aren't bearing down on them in the first 2 or 3 days. Then I lower the lights. After two weeks, I drain the nutrients, and give them all new fresh nutes, this time the PPM goes up to 1000-1100PPM. Two weeks after that I drain the nutes that are left and give fresh nutes 1200-1400PPM. and the last time they get drained of its nutrients, and are running on just plain water, no nutes at all. This is flushing, and takes out the chemical taste of the nutrients. You will probably never get the PPM to 0, simply because the roots have been in a high PPM environment.
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Zeffer
07-18-2010, 03:38 PM
yeah, i will follow your advice on the nute regiment.
What about seedling placement ? As you can see they are in Rapid Rooters
When should i put them into the Hydroton buckets ?
... They have root popping out the bottom...Should the rapid rooters be in a
container to capture the roots, building a compact root ball ! ?
....So yeah, i guess my ? is this...Seedlings in Rapid Rooters, how do i create
a ball of roots, so they can go into the Hydroton buckets for Veg. phase ?
Zeffer
Zeffer
07-18-2010, 05:45 PM
So here are the photos referring to the post i made earlier !
...There is one root - shooting out the bottom of each seedlings here.
...will the " ball of roots " develop in this configuration, then as i get more
roots coming out, ( like many root-shoots ) plant them into the hydroton ?
Zeff
Zeffer
07-19-2010, 02:33 PM
yuh, see that canister in between the big Res. and the controller !
That is a water filter for a large fish tank. I took the carbon filter out, cuz
i thought it would have an adverse affect the good nutrients !
Hey, any comments or advise would be appreciated,
pH balanced,
Zeffer
Zeffer
07-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Should i have a clear dome set up here for these seedlings ?
tinytoon
07-19-2010, 09:19 PM
Whatever you got to do for warm and moist.
Zeffer
07-19-2010, 11:57 PM
... That's it ! keep'm warm and moist ! ! ! ! WTF !
thanks a pant load...keep'm warm and moist ! wow yeah Fuking awesome news!
what about the questions hahahaaaa this place is a pissza !
Well, i otta do fuking awesome with my 1st. grow with all the f"n advise
a get around here !
OOOOKKaaaaaaaaaa then keep'm warm and moist ! hahahahaaaaa pissa!
pH fuking down,
Zeff
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