View Full Version : PLEASE HELP! My leaves are hanging downward...
esc420pot
06-23-2010, 04:19 PM
what up everyone, right now all i got is my mother plant growin right now with a DIY drip system, and she was doing very very good and healthy until this morning i check her out and shes all droopy... Looks like shes dying a bit.... Can anyone tell me why my plant got all droopy within a night? I was thinking it may have over watered, or not watered enough??? ill put up a pic on how it was 2 days ago, and a pic i just now took of it droopy. Any help is greatly appriciated, thanks.
BudLuv420
06-23-2010, 06:13 PM
Whats your temp?
How many times do you water?
Air Circulations?
esc420pot
06-23-2010, 06:27 PM
Whats your temp?
How many times do you water?
Air Circulations?
Right now i don't know the temps, i have yet to get a thermometer. I know i need to get one cause temps and humidity is a big part in my environment. But, i just keep forgetting. Ill get one tomorrow so i can give a lil more info. To how i feel, the temps havnt changed at all and my plant was doing perfect until this morning, could be wrong, but im pritty sure its not from the temps. I water once a day 15 min and i got 1 osculating fan.
BudLuv420
06-23-2010, 07:06 PM
get the temp guage asap & would water atleast 3 times a day
esc420pot
06-23-2010, 08:34 PM
get the temp guage asap & would water atleast 3 times a day
so you think i shuld water more??
martyrprojekt
06-24-2010, 02:11 AM
DUDE....First of all...Not enough information for us to tell you what is going on.
We can all speculate...Its either too much water...or not enough. I think it is too much watering...since the leaves look heavy! Just my thoughts based upon the lack of important information needed to diagnose problems.
Also, there is a place to post plant problems on this forum. Put your question there.
khyberkitsune
06-24-2010, 02:39 AM
Answer: pH or oxygen deprivation.
esc420pot
06-24-2010, 03:36 AM
DUDE....First of all...Not enough information for us to tell you what is going on.
We can all speculate...Its either too much water...or not enough. I think it is too much watering...since the leaves look heavy! Just my thoughts based upon the lack of important information needed to diagnose problems.
Also, there is a place to post plant problems on this forum. Put your question there.
..... sorry i didn't know that i was posting in the wrong spot. I did put it under indoor growing right? i don't see how this won't apply to that topic... But my bad. Regaurdless, what info do you need? i figured the pics and the lil bit i said was enough to atleast make a educated guess. WIch you did in a way. But, whatever yall need to know feel free to ask rather then telling me i need to post more info. All i have is a 13.5 Sq. Ft. veg room with a osculating fan. 1 t5 and a CFL ATM, and a hydro drip system with the plant in rockwool, and then transfered to hydro pellets. the runoff is reused from resivoir over and over. I use "Super Natural Brand Gro Aqua" nutrients at half strength. Hope thats all the info yall need, cause theres not really anything els i can tel ya lol. So what, do you all recomend me try watering more or less??
khyberkitsune
06-24-2010, 04:02 AM
..... sorry i didn't know that i was posting in the wrong spot. I did put it under indoor growing right? i don't see how this won't apply to that topic... But my bad. Regaurdless, what info do you need? i figured the pics and the lil bit i said was enough to atleast make a educated guess. WIch you did in a way. But, whatever yall need to know feel free to ask rather then telling me i need to post more info. All i have is a 13.5 Sq. Ft. veg room with a osculating fan. 1 t5 and a CFL ATM, and a hydro drip system with the plant in rockwool, and then transfered to hydro pellets. the runoff is reused from resivoir over and over. I use "Super Natural Brand Gro Aqua" nutrients at half strength. Hope thats all the info yall need, cause theres not really anything els i can tel ya lol. So what, do you all recomend me try watering more or less??
As I stated, pH and oxygen levels, primarily oxygen. You're recirculating the reservoir but you're not doing enough to oxygenate it. Now the roots are being flooded with oxygen-poor water, and with poor oxygen also comes poorly-maintained pH. Fix oxygen issue (add an airstone to the bottom of that whole mass and hook it up to an air pump, or run the water through a home-built oxygenation reservoir before recirculating it back to the plant,) then adjust your pH, as adding oxygen will make it swing.
esc420pot
06-24-2010, 04:10 AM
As I stated, pH and oxygen levels, primarily oxygen. You're recirculating the reservoir but you're not doing enough to oxygenate it. Now the roots are being flooded with oxygen-poor water, and with poor oxygen also comes poorly-maintained pH. Fix oxygen issue (add an airstone to the bottom of that whole mass and hook it up to an air pump, or run the water through a home-built oxygenation reservoir before recirculating it back to the plant,) then adjust your pH, as adding oxygen will make it swing.
Aw shit! you'r right! i completley forgot! I have no lil fish pump that bubbles and attaches an airstone. Damn... so why was it flourishing, and then it just now had an effect from it?
khyberkitsune
06-24-2010, 04:29 AM
Aw shit! you'r right! i completley forgot! I have no lil fish pump that bubbles and attaches an airstone. Damn... so why was it flourishing, and then it just now had an effect from it?
Yes, initially you were fine as the plant didn't need so much oxygen. Now it's larger and it needs more, and it can't get it with the current recirculation alone.
esc420pot
06-24-2010, 08:05 AM
Yes, initially you were fine as the plant didn't need so much oxygen. Now it's larger and it needs more, and it can't get it with the current recirculation alone.
ight then thanks bro. Ill get a pump and airstone asap.
Prodaytrader
06-24-2010, 09:56 AM
fine bubbles, big air pump, cool water. That's the secret.
esc420pot
06-24-2010, 07:18 PM
fine bubbles, big air pump, cool water. That's the secret.
what kinda air pump should i get for a 30 L resivoir?
khyberkitsune
06-24-2010, 08:19 PM
10 lpm should be fine.
esc420pot
06-24-2010, 08:33 PM
10 lpm should be fine.
awesome thanks. Could i get that type at a regular petco or something? or would i have to go to an aquarium store??
khyberkitsune
06-25-2010, 12:16 AM
You can get that at petco yes :)
esc420pot
06-25-2010, 04:32 AM
You can get that at petco yes :)
thanks ill be sure to get one first thing tomorrow, since they are closed ATM. And i also cleaned out my resivoir, refilled with distilled water, with half strength nutes, and a p.h. of 5.8-6.0. I am watering 2 times a day 15 min at a time, and see how that goes.
khyberkitsune
06-25-2010, 02:39 PM
thanks ill be sure to get one first thing tomorrow, since they are closed ATM. And i also cleaned out my resivoir, refilled with distilled water, with half strength nutes, and a p.h. of 5.8-6.0. I am watering 2 times a day 15 min at a time, and see how that goes.
Once you get the air pump and air stone installed, just run constant recirculation and aeration. Watch your plants get HUGE.
esc420pot
06-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Once you get the air pump and air stone installed, just run constant recirculation and aeration. Watch your plants get HUGE.
what you mean recirculation and aeration? like won't me having an airstone automatically do that?
tinytoon
06-25-2010, 11:27 PM
Run air pump and drip 24/7 is what K is saying
esc420pot
06-25-2010, 11:55 PM
Run air pump and drip 24/7 is what K is saying
oh ok, well ya i plan on keeping the airstone on 24/7 but, you'r saying to keep the drip system on 24/7 also?? wouldn't that be too much water??
khyberkitsune
06-26-2010, 12:01 AM
oh ok, well ya i plan on keeping the airstone on 24/7 but, you'r saying to keep the drip system on 24/7 also?? wouldn't that be too much water??
In hydroponics, as long as you have prper oxygen in the water, there is no such thing as overwatering.
DWC buckets let the roots sit flat in the nute reservoir while oxygen bubbles.
esc420pot
06-26-2010, 12:37 AM
In hydroponics, as long as you have prper oxygen in the water, there is no such thing as overwatering.
DWC buckets let the roots sit flat in the nute reservoir while oxygen bubbles.
oh really? damn i did'nt know that... So as long as i got an airstone+ pump i can water it as much as i want??
khyberkitsune
06-26-2010, 03:38 AM
oh really? damn i did'nt know that... So as long as i got an airstone+ pump i can water it as much as i want??
You don't even water, you just let the nutrient solution drown the roots while the air pump does the job for you.
esc420pot
06-26-2010, 04:30 AM
You don't even water, you just let the nutrient solution drown the roots while the air pump does the job for you.
oh i get what your saying, im using a drip system though buddy, im not useing aeroponics the hydro where you have the roots dangling into the resivoir. i have a resivoir underneath the plant and is pumped up to the plant and drained back down into the resivoir. For my set up, does the same thing still apply? causeim not sure what you mean exactly in my case...
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