10-15-10

[Kingpiner]

anyone who has used only one nute thru an entire grow i would like to hear from. would you say that the difference was extrememly noticable, noticable or no difference noticed. i have heard opinions from both sides and i am interested in using a single 10-15-10 formula from germ to 2 weeks pre-harvest and would like to know how much of a F up am i going to cause for myself. thanks for the expert advice :thumbsup:

[Rusty Trichome]

If you are into using sandpaper as an acceptable replacement for toilet paper, I guess you'd be ok with using an abrasive nutrient regimin on your ladies. With using those nutes throughout the grow...it's easier to create nutrient lockouts, overdosing, and it's harder to diagnose and correct problems...

I guess I'm saying...using the right tool for the job is a good idea. A 2 or 3 part nutrient regimin makes your life easier, and the plants will be happier and healthier.

[Kingpiner]

point made. since i did one feed already, then another that i flushed would it be fine to move into a 2 part now or should i wait it off for a while. second set of three pointed leaves are 1/4 out, when would you recommend feeding?

[michaelpeg]

anyone who has used only one nute thru an entire grow i would like to hear from. would you say that the difference was extrememly noticable, noticable or no difference noticed. i have heard opinions from both sides and i am interested in using a single 10-15-10 formula from germ to 2 weeks pre-harvest and would like to know how much of a F up am i going to cause for myself. thanks for the expert advice :thumbsup:

I used 15-15-15 my entire grow so far (miracle gro). No damage done but could be flowering slowly/poorly. Im on week 7 of flowering and i expected a little more than what looks to be 3/4 oz on my 4.5 foot lady.

[Rusty Trichome]

The high nitrogen level will keep the ladies waaaaay green through to harvest, and the residual will be tasted when smoked. You can't fully cure the taste from excessive nitrogen, out of the buds.

Personally, in this situation, I would likely flush the soil well a week or two before harvest. And from there...plain, properly ph'd water till harvest. I would add some molasses for the final two weeks as a calcium and carbohydrate source though. The plant should scavange from her stores of mobile nutrients, (including nitrogen) and help lower your levels in the plant by you not adding more. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure I'd switch as soon as I got the appropriate nutrients. Start with half-doses, or at least half doses twice a week till you and your ladies get used to the product. Some companies offer a weekly feeding chart online, some don't. It's a good idea to check, regardless of the product you chose. Keep in mind, one product's feeding schedule is likely different than other companies schedules, and most 2 or 3 part nutrient systems have most of what you need.

[Kingpiner]

went out and bought general hydros flora 3 part system. anything worth doing, i suppose. thanks for the tips

[Zeffer]

Greetings, ( not greedy ! ) fellow growers. Pat yourselves on the back
for creating a better society in which we live... This is the very question
that i have posted today.

[killerweed420]

I use 3 nutrients in growing. All very cheap and seem to really produce nice buds. Miracid in veg with every watering. Eleanor's VF-11 every watering in flower and about 10 ml of fish fertilizer every other watering in flower.
Has been working very well with nice fat buds.

[michaelpeg]

The high nitrogen level will keep the ladies waaaaay green through to harvest, and the residual will be tasted when smoked. You can't fully cure the taste from excessive nitrogen, out of the buds.

Personally, in this situation, I would likely flush the soil well a week or two before harvest. And from there...plain, properly ph'd water till harvest. I would add some molasses for the final two weeks as a calcium and carbohydrate source though. The plant should scavange from her stores of mobile nutrients, (including nitrogen) and help lower your levels in the plant by you not adding more. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure I'd switch as soon as I got the appropriate nutrients. Start with half-doses, or at least half doses twice a week till you and your ladies get used to the product. Some companies offer a weekly feeding chart online, some don't. It's a good idea to check, regardless of the product you chose. Keep in mind, one product's feeding schedule is likely different than other companies schedules, and most 2 or 3 part nutrient systems have most of what you need.

thanks rusty, the buds and leaves are still very green at 7 weeks in to flower, actually the very very tips of the leaves are still getting burnt from the nutes. Could the extra nitrogen limit bud growth or will it just leave a bad taste? How much longer than the estimated harvest date should I expect to harvest with the extra N?

[Rusty Trichome]

Molasses is a better choice for bulking-up the buds. It's a great carbohydrate source, carbon source, and has calcium, magnesium, iron and micronutes, all of which are a benefit to the buddage.

At this stage, you'll want to flush-out the nutrients from the soil, and perhaps quit the nutrients altogether, depending on the strain. If a long-flowering sativa or sativa dominate, (9-13 weeks) perhaps half doses of nutes till ready for the final flush. If a short flowering indica or indica dominate, (7-8 weeks) I'd stop the nutes, flush, and only add unsulfured molasses from this point forward. (I use 1 tsp per gallon of properly ph'd water)

Let the plant scavange the mobile nutrients from her warehouse of mobile nutrients. (the fan leaves, for instance)

Extra N tastes crappy.

[michaelpeg]

thanks again. What you are saying about letting the plant use its stored up nutes makes perfect sense. I dont have much choice for how much nutes im giving it, it is miracle gro with the time release osmocote. I will try some molasses to see if I can bulk them up a bit though.

[Kingpiner]

so ya, got my 20 posts. 3 days ago i flushed my plants when i think i over fertalized and them cuz i found 2 orange pin sized tips, yesterday night and this morning i noticed a few more, would a plant still be reacting this late after being flushed or am i dealing with something else? im considering it may be the lights were too close cuz yesterday they grew upwards and started to touch my t5 and i noticed the parts that look burnt today actualy kind looked like cooked spinach, opinions? im posting a few pics of my set, the light was literaly resting on the edge of some of the leaves. also starting to get a little green limey smell out of them :thumbsup: or else thats the sound of the nutes nuking my plants...

[Kingpiner]

looks like it was the lights

[Rusty Trichome]

looks like it was the lights

Sure. Your observation is 100% correct. If you don't count the nutrient burn.

Keep an eye on new growth. Neckrotic (dead) spots will not repair.
Would give 'em a couple weeks and start the quarter or half-doses of nutrients, watch for a response. Let us know.

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh yeah you will taste the 15-20-15 like eating it with a spoon. Rusty is right on.:thumbsup: If you must use it with the issue of money and all,id use it, but save your cash for budding, because this is where your going to taste it. My last outdoor grow tasted really bad and did not use it on my indoor. But im using it now, but only to get them up and started so bugs will leave them alone. At close to 4-5' il stop and only use molasses and when budding i will start using the Fox Farm additives.

Flush, flush and more flushing after you have stopped using it, what im saying is water and molasses only. Also, it will help your flush with 1 drop of liquid soap as it will help flush out built up salts in the plant.

All an all its not good to use at all inside, but i believe it can be used outside, but only till bud begins, then do not use it, in less ya want to taste it:( and if you can get MJ ferts use those.


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[natrensland]

OK,

[natrensland]

OK, well i use the line of foxfarms, foxfarms big bloom and big grow from seedlings till harvest in addition to beastie bloomz. The soil also helps a great deal if u use soil my faviort is foxfarms ocean organic, it has sea kelp, bat guana, and many other micro nutrients that you well need. Its like giving steriods a skinny neard. It will take off and grow more fuller and over all harvast will be insane take a look at my pics. also co2 will help a great deal they now have what is called co2 in a bag i use two of them and it is cheaper than a co2 bottle and works the same ive already tested both ways

[Kingpiner]

i have been using the mj nutes i bought a long while back, since i have random bag seed tho, im wondering how soon i should do a flush, since i dont know when final harvest date is its hard to time out 2 weeks prior. im in the later part of week 6 , il attach a picture hopefully some of you could help me out. if it helps any smell is fruity, fairly lemony. i also have a few pictures thru the stages of development in my grow log. thanks for any help

[Dutch Pimp]

To me flushing means switching to plain water..AFTER...the plant has stopped growing...completely. Water as normal...nothing extra

Then...watch the trichomes...they say when to harvest...:)

CAUTION!...if you see trichs.. like this?...run for your life....:stoned:

[Kingpiner]

ok so finish the feeding cycle as recommended by general hydros nutes then plain water flush and just some molasses till the trichs are ready? i have noticed there is more effortbeing out into trichs over new growth, acually i seeno newgrowth at all tho the bud are expanding slightly.

[bigtopsfinn]

ok so finish the feeding cycle as recommended by general hydros nutes then plain water flush and just some molasses till the trichs are ready? i have noticed there is more effortbeing out into trichs over new growth, acually i seeno newgrowth at all tho the bud are expanding slightly.

This is the time that they'll start to fill in and fatten up. I'd guess 2-3 weeks more at least.

[Kingpiner]

still not ready, how much longer?

[bigtopsfinn]

Filled in nicely, eh? :jointsmile:

They look almost done to me. Start checking the trichs: Trichomes 101 (http://cannabis.com/growing/curing-what-are-trichomes-trichome-101.html) :thumbsup: