Shov's Summer 2010 Grow

[Shovelhandle]

What a cool thing. Not only did my plate of Neville's Haze buds win a poll on Canna Cabana as bud of the month but the August High Times just hit the news stands and in the "Pix of the Crops" is a photo of my beautiful Blueberry plant from last season!

Anyways, on with the grow. I'm germinating a few old F2s I made of Foxy Seed's Afghani Dream x BOG Medley. This strain is from our one and only Stinkyattic.

Check out the seed crop (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/102542-shovs-afghani-x-bog-medley-spring-grow.html)...

Shov

[GrowDawg]

Congrats Shov! You know I saw that and wondered if it was you!! Anyway nice going keep up the great grows!!

[michaelpeg]

congratulations on getting a pic in to hightimes man! how do you go about sending a picture to them? good luck with your grow although im sure you dont need it by now.

[Shovelhandle]

thank you,
to send in a pic go to high times website menu item Entrie,s "pix of the month"
I don't know how I did it, I can't do it again. Says I don't have a httm email or sometim

[irydyum]

Tuned in with my notebook and pen at the ready. I'm going to try outdoor in the not too distant future and need to see how it's done:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

hey, irydium,
The outdoor plants are not cultivated. they life or die by themselves. I hope they can do it though.

[Shovelhandle]

2010 seeds I grew out. Cross of my Z11 (afghani) x Neville's Haze (by Mr Nice). So I started ten more seeds. Nothing good enough to photo yet.

Sho :hippy:

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

That's awesome, great job on the mag and poll. Your grows are always well appreciated here @ cancom and I'm happy to know the HTworld can see those beautiful buds. Congrats big guy.

mg

[Shovelhandle]

Ok, it's been one month since I planted the first seeds. There are eight nice Afghani Dream x BOG Meldey in 3 gallon bags under a 400 watt MH. There are around eight 6" pots with Z11 sativa pheno x MR. Nice's Neville's Haze. Those are nine days old. I'll likely flip them all in two weeks. I'll get some photos this week, I promise! ;)

Shov

[jakezking]

It's good to see you again, old friend! I'm glad to see you're getting some well-deserved recognition too - that's some sweet press, congratulations!

From the sounds of your thread, you're keeping your 2 hands full of green thumbs busy these days tending some really great sounding strains. I'm hopeful I'll have time to pull up a spot on the couch and absorb some of the knowledge your imparting.

Be good out there, amigo.

Aloha

[Shovelhandle]

Transplanted six Z11 sativa x NH into 6 gallon grow bags. Flipped the timer to 12/12 and changed the MH to HPS.
The Afghani are 6 weeks, the Z11 are three weeks.

No pictures (yeh, I did promise). But they are not photoworthy yet. I think they had trouble with too hot soil. I think they should be getting better soon.

[Shovelhandle]

One week later... AfghaniXs are looking pretty good and show 8/8 females (one may be a hermie right out of the gate though). The sativas are coming around pretty well also, inspite of the problems with either hot soil mix and/or hard well water.

Shov :hippy:

[bigtopsfinn]

Congratulations on the pics! You seem to always have some photogenetic ladies :greenthumb:

Looking forward to this one. :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

Eight Afghani Dream x BOG Medley FEMALES.
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Six Z11 sativa pheno x Neville's Haze, no sex yet.
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The afghani vegged for six weeks, the sativa, three weeks.

Shov :hippy:

[Shovelhandle]

The (6) sativas have all shown sex but one. There are five developing females, some look like they are catching up to the indicas in bud production! The one runt that is yet to determine looks like it will be fem too. You have to love it!!! The first time I planted NH I got 7/7 Males and a total of 4/18 females after all were started. This is more like it! :D

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Six Z11 sativa pheno x MNS Neville's Haze. Three weeks veg, three weeks bloom.
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Eight Afghani Dream x BOG Medley. Six weeks veg, three weeks bloom.
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I fed them half strength nutes and LSTed the tall plants today.
Thanks for stopping in.

Sho

[Weezard]

Nani wahine!:thumbsup:

And the scent??

Aloha Sho

Weeze

[Shovelhandle]

I did notice they were starting to smell a little. None of the strains were real stinkers, but the NH smells so nice when burned. It's sweet like church incense. The Z11 smells mild, floral and the indica is hashy.
Some mazar-i I grew out smelled like a wet, cheap cigar after you burned it, peeyoo.

Sho

[Weezard]

Consider me warned:) and mahalo nui

I live in a tule fog of wonderous aromas.
To even think of growing anything that would "clash"....

No wanna mess-up what I moved here for, yah?:)

Looking for some spicy/piney/li'l bit skunky, scents.

Aloha nui
Weeze

[Shovelhandle]

Plants are filling out, crooked from the LST. Fed them and washed them today. I have so many things going on lately, I'll get pics up next week, promise. ;)
I have plants outdoors, some in pots, some in the ground. I plan on transplanting those shortly after they show sex. Depending how things are going indoors, I'll either bring them in to replace the indicas as they finish or just move them to a safer place outdoors.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Now 5 weeks into bloom and the afghani buds are all seedy and I have no idea where the pollen came from. They still have time to put out lots of new buds though. The sativa hybrid matured a few weeks after the afghani so I doubt that the sativa pollenated the afghani. As I will point out, the afghanis also have a hermie this grow.

Photos of the grow. The plants were drying out when I looked at them today so I wet them down and fed them before I took the photos.

Six Z11 x Nevilles Haze
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Eight Afghani Dream x BOG's Medley
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In the garden, four Z11xNH runts. They are starting to take off! The first is the hermie. There is the one cluster of stamen as shown in the photo. So far that's it. I'll remove them, just wanted to wait untill I capture a good photo of the M/F flowers in one frame.
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The Hermie
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Shov

[Shovelhandle]

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=254620&stc=1&d=1283946531

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[weeddaddy50]

too bad about the hermie.....lots of seeds for your next grow.

I love that picture of the hermie......now that I think about it I have not check any of my plants for hermie's....:( since they are all clones it should not happen, but you know I do have some DJ short blue blue berry in my Veg room from seeds and have not been sexed....:wtf: I guess I need to check them in a few weeks as they are only 10 inches tall right now and under 24/7 light.

keep the picture's going.:D

[Shovelhandle]

lots of seeds for your next grow.

that's what my idjit bro in law thinks. as if I want to be friggin around with more hermies. no thank you. :jointsmile:

sho

[canniwhatsis]

I do have some DJ short blue blue berry in my Veg room from seeds and have not been sexed....:wtf: I guess I need to check them in a few weeks as they are only 10 inches tall right now and under 24/7 light.


You must have got the last of em then,... I tried to get some and they were out of stock. :( Had to change my order to Vaniluna, but that's OK since I've got a blueberry genetic going ATM anyway. (just don't know the breeder)


Sorry for the demi-Jack there Shov,.... I've been stalking this thread since it started! :D

I"m with Ya on the Hermi thing,... My GDP kept herming, so I cut the strain,.... tho I did keep some beans. I'll give a few seed grows a shot, if I get a stable fem I'll keep it.

Good luck with cutting off the herm branches,... I "Thought" I had gotten them all,... and have the beans to show for it! :o

[Shovelhandle]

I don't mind when a strain will put out one or two beans to the ounce. Bonus points! It's nice to have them feminized seeds to grow. I just don't understand how these indoor plants got so seedy when I've never seen a single sac. I've not grown a 'seed crop' in years, but even then I don't think I ever got a plant like these. Now days I pollenate a single branch if I want seeds. That has worked very well for me.

Thanks for the replies, folks.

Shov

[Podge_Boro]

Nice work my man, I'll be takin notes
I wish I had the knowledge to grow like this

Shame about the hermie tho mate

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks, Bub. all the knowledge we needs is right here on Cannabis.com ;)

Shov

[weeddaddy50]

I was just trying to make some light of the Hermie....and seeds...sorry.

I know when you get to the point of having seeds in your crop...it's almost time to cry...

Same thing happend to us last year on an out door grow....15 plants were
affected by one Hermie....It was not my grow....but a good friend of mine did check his plants for a few days..and bam. The plants affected were mostly clones except the hermie which was from seed.

[Shovelhandle]

that's ok, I figured that people here know that. ;)

[Shovelhandle]

I put the four outdoor plants into 3 gallon bags and now have 18 plants under the 400 watt light (with 216 w of sidelights). I used the garden soil mixed with peat moss, but it was still very, very dense and heavy. I just hope I didn't carry any undesirable bugs or anything indoors with it. So far so good.
The Afghani Dream x BOG Medley buds are all red haired but the trics are all clear still. I'm betting on them finishing on week eight. The Z11 x Neville's Haze are coming along slowly but surely. They may finish on week twelve. Z11 is a indica dom hybrid but the mother Z11 for the seed was the only sativa looking offspring ever. It looked 100% sativa. These plants have a few different looks. I'll try and get some photos later. :hippy:
All in all, the plants are not as large as usual but they are ok. There are enough of them that the total may hit one pound.

Shovl

[Shovelhandle]

Eight Afghani Dream x BOG Medley
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Six Z11 x Neville's Haze
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Four more Z11 x NH that were put outdoors after the first three weeks indoors.
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Shovel:stoned:

[canniwhatsis]

I put the four outdoor plants into 3 gallon bags and now have 18 plants under the 400 watt light (with 216 w of sidelights). I used the garden soil mixed with peat moss, but it was still very, very dense and heavy. I just hope I didn't carry any undesirable bugs or anything indoors with it. So far so good.

Shovl


Have you tried "Smart Pots"?
smart pots - Google Product Search (http://www.google.com/products?client=safari&rls=en&q=smart+pots&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=d9eSTKbZK5D2tgOJrejACg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEUQrQQwAg)

Basically its a bag, but made from stuff like the "weed blocker" fabric you put under rockscaping or mulch in your garden. It breathes really well,... too well in some peoples opinion,...(great for heavy soils) my blueberry is in a 3 gallon smart pot,... needs about 1.5 gallons every 2-3 days.

[Shovelhandle]

thanks for the tip...that's a lot of water for a 3 gallon bag? How much are these smart pots? The plastic bags are .20 ea.
This is the first time I used top soil in a bag or indoors. Everything just grew so well in this composted soil this season that I thought I'd continue with the soil when I moved indoors for the Fall. I'll try a smart pot sometime if I find them in the nursery stores.

Shov

[canniwhatsis]

They're kinda spendy compared to the .20 per bag ($5-6) but compared to local pricing on plastic buckets its reasonable, and the advantages IMO are worth the cost.

[Shovelhandle]

well, I'm not so cheap as I wouldn't try them. they sound really good, thanks

[Shovelhandle]

These are just about done. They are almost eight weeks into bloom and show about half cloudy and clear with a number of amber trics as well.




Here are som bud photos


well, I guess not... the photo editor wouldn't upload the photos today.

Shovelhandle

[Shovelhandle]

still can't upload photo, just me or what??? :(

[EvilCartman]

still can't upload photo, just me or what??? :(

Not just you,.. ran into this issue earlier today. :( :wtf:

Using my imagination... I'm sure those ladies are lookin' good! :D

[canniwhatsis]

Upload to an album under your user name, and use the "BB" link under the image to post to the thread.

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/canniwhatsis-albums-random-pics-picture5807-cant-remember-what-strain-freakishly-huge-leaves.jpg

It'll work untill the mods get the uploads to work.:jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

eight Afghani Dream x BOG Medley
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5834-4-afghani-dream-x-bog-medley-8-weeks-bloom.jpg http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5835-4-more-ad-x-bog-medley.jpg

Some buds...
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5836-ad-x-bm.jpg http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5837-ad-x-bm.jpg

http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5838-ad-x-bm.jpg

Seedy Bud
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/shovelhandle-albums-shovs-picture5839-seedy-bud.jpg

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

with these sativas it doesn't seem to matter. They are all the same hybrid but lots of different phenos and growth. They were also separated into three or four groups, some outdoors longer than others before I brought them back in, some stayed in. Some look almost done, some have a long ways yet to go. That's pretty good though. There are 18 in a 4' x 3' footprint and as they thin out the remainders should find the extra light and space agreeable. Photos later this week.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Thes four were put outdoors and into the ground around the end of August.
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They are looking a little behind the indoor plants.

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

These went outdoors at the end of August and sat in little pots until the end of September when they were put into 3 gallon bags and brought indoors.

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moe to follow... Sho

[Shovelhandle]

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Shov

[Shovelhandle]

These six were grown entirely indoors and should finish first. They started three weeks behind the indica which I just harvested.

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One moe coming...

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

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BTW, all the plants are indoors now. I tried to edit my first post but I was too late.

That's it... Shov

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

looks like you've been busy, shove. good show :jointsmile:

good morning..

[weeddaddy50]

shov.....what was the weight per plant.

[Shovelhandle]

haven't weighed, but them first eight were little. But under a footprint of 3' x 4' there were up to 26 plants and 18 are still thriving. I'd guess at 3+ ounces to 8 plants = 10+ grams each. They also seemed to suffer some in the beginning from soil problems. The quality of this indica bud is truely outstanding though. :jointsmile:

sho

[weeddaddy50]

let us know your final counts.

[Shovelhandle]

I sure will. It looks like four will be ready to harvest within a week or so. Most of the others and still stretching and producing light, sativa buds so they may be a while yet. The six plants that have been indoors all along are at week 11 and I'd guess that some of the hazy phenos may look at 14++ weeks total. They're all getting tric coated pretty good though! :smokin:

Thanks

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Ibin buzy. So no photos. It's just starting week twelve bloom for the group of six plants grown totally indoor. Two other groups of the same hybrid were put outdoors at different times and conditions. If you haven't been following, all plants are indoors now. So with the individual phenos and bloom stages it should be a real holling harvest for a while. Four of the plants that went outdoors look colsest to ready, maybe this week (week 12). Others are in many different bloom stages and spurts and it's hard to guess which will mature next. But there are hazey phenos that can be expected to take 16+ weeks (another month or more). As they are crowded, 18 plants in 3 gallon bags as close as the bags can get. Dense.

I'll get some new pics up this week sometime.

Sho

[Shovelhandle]

I moved two of the 'garden' plants out of the light and pulled them free from the pots, cutting off the roots. I will let them stay like this for three days before I cut and hang to dry. These are pretty much the most indica flavored of all the hybrids.
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The rest of the plants have a long ways to go. This is another that has some indica traits in the bud structure.
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Shshshov

[Shovelhandle]

All the rest are very hazy looking, all fox-tailed and fluffy. Last grow the naze looked like this but the dried bud actually had weight to them and the vield was pretty good.

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Shovvv

[camoxnhx]

OOOOMMMMMMGGGGG! always growing the Danks Shov.

[Shovelhandle]

Checked trics on four of the more mature looking plants and they show many ambers. I gave them all a heavy drink opf water and I'll remove them from the lights in a few days. I was surprised as some of the plants are very whispy but most of these were cullos from the indoor grow that I moved outdoors just for the hell of it to see if anything would produce. Bonus Points! :smokin:

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

Here are all the rest of the plants except one still finishing. A few look very hazey/skinny. Most of these were actually culls that I put outdoors this summer and decided after a while to pot them up and eventually move back indoors to finish. Lots of manicuring but it is worth it. Quite a bundle hanging right now.

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[Shovelhandle]

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[Shovelhandle]

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[Shovelhandle]

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THE END

Shov

[Shovelhandle]

It was a long grow but only 12 weeks of 12/12 indoors. Not bad for the sativa strains w/ hazey phenos. The 8 indicas were done at 8 weeks.
New grow starting today. I'll update this thread with smoke reports as the plant cure. Thanks for the support, folks! :1baa:

Sho

[WhiteTux]

Looks great shov :) I hope to one day be as good a grower as you. :D

[Shovelhandle]

thank you, but for as long as I've been fiddling with growin' pot (since 1970) I should be king shit pot grower. but i ain't <g>

Shov

[WhiteTux]

You're definitely close if nothing else :)

[Shovelhandle]

A sample of a couple of the phenos.

Sativa hard bud
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=258392&stc=1&d=1288196892

Hazey bud
http://www.thecannacabana.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=137139&stc=1&d=1288196291

Have a nice ball of finger hash and I'm waiting for the first visitor to share with. Meanwhile, I also have a hash/joint to do up after lunch today. The total yield was not record breaking, especially for the total grow time, but I did do well economically by puttting the plants outdoors for a couple of months. I have two ounces of Afghani Dream x BOG Medley and eight ounces of Z11 x Neville's Haze. A good stash for a while. I'll put a smoke report when they are all cured.

Shov

[EvilCartman]

A sample of a couple of the phenos.
Sativa hard bud
Hazey bud

I have two ounces of Afghani Dream x BOG Medley and eight ounces of Z11 x Neville's Haze. A good stash for a while. I'll put a smoke report when they are all cured.Shov

Very nice! I looove a good Sativa! :jointsmile:

Well done, Shov! Look forward to the report. Enjoy! :thumbsup:

[weeddaddy50]

nice job....great grow log.

I love your pictures:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Nice herb!
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=259446&stc=1&d=1289781815