Sativa? Indica? Hmm

[keinmehrkreig]

A couple of weeks ago I was at the mall with my friends..

I had taken some dimenhydrinate not too much (about 10 pills) and was feeling it pretty good.

We had some bud on us, so at night we decided to go outside the mall into this field and light up..

We had two different kinds of weed, we got them both for free, one from My Drummer, the Other from just a friend..

Our drummer gave us about three roaches, and the other kid gave us one.
We emptied them then rolled them all up and smoked. It was the weirdest high I have ever had, I kept kinda forgeting where I was,we walked around the mall, and my friends would say stuff like "dude theres your mom!" and
If they were just a woman, I'd see them change into my mom, and would have to stare for a while to realize it wasn't.. They kept doing this and it freaked me out. Everything seemed so dreamlike.

Now the one roach we got from our friend is apparently called like Christmas or something which contains a lot of crystals or something like that.

Now my question is..is this sativa or something? because if it is Im going to want that a lot. I know it wasnt the roaches my drummer gave me because I smoked that weed with him and it was different.

Is it just because I had taken dimenhydrinate too? and the combo sparked something? I don't think thats what it is, because my bassist felt the same way as me and he only had 1 pill.

Sorry this is so long, I've just kinda recently found out the differences between sativa and indica.. and it sounds like all this time ive only had indica..Until that one night..

Thanks.

[ilovelife]

haha i duno wtf that was but it sounds good.. my suggestion tell em to save their roaches and take those pills again!

[keinmehrkreig]

Haha yeah, its a bummer I switched schools, I need to talk that kid again..

it was amazing.

[Edgar]

im guessin it was mostly the pills. Dimenhydrinate, those are those slightly trippy dramamine pills right?

[keinmehrkreig]

Yeah, but ive done them several times by themselves and it was different this time.
So I was thinking maybe it was the combo..

But my friend only did ONE pill. which serves absolutely no recreational purpose.
And he was tripping as hard as me..

lol its funny after it wore off, (which was kinda forced because my mom actually did show up in the mall looking for me lol) I thought to myself I'll prolly never have that feeling again given the little information I had..

But Im going to search for it again. It was the best.

[Edgar]

yeah, prolly was the combo.

[montyd]

sounds like the pills and sativa high as sativa is all in the head and would most prob bring up the effects of the pills making you trip more,

[Natural Vibrations]

Nah, its cause all of the weed that you smoked was super potent because a lot of THC had been pulled through it when whoever smoked the joint. Its called resonation, and it turns your weed into superchron. Happy 4/20

[jadeius]

probably had something to do with all the resin from being previously smoked, and it was probably good too...how long had it been since you last got high? Those pills had to have some effect...maybe there was a slight placebo with that other guy...I haven't had any really trippy highs from pot since I started smoking...and I've smoked a lot of different kinds of weed...

[jadeius]

are you guys talking about the drug that's in benadryl, diphenhydramine? or is diphenhydrinate (or however you spelled it) really something different? I haven't bothered to take the time to look at dramamine...

[jadeius]

oh ok, i see now, i looked it up...it is different...what's it like, better than the benadryl stuff? I've seen a lot of people spell it like that and thought they were talking about benadryl (diphenhydramine)...

[keinmehrkreig]

Dimenhydrinate and Dipehndramamine seem reletively the same too me.

thanks for all the responses, if anyone else has any other ideas keep em comin =)

[RedRainDrop]

I know DXM and weed make a combo, its such a crazy ass combo, its nice..

[jadeius]

Yeah, I still haven't tried DXM bc it's hard to find the pure products without other shit in them, and my man is freaky about me trying new shit...but judging from getting high on cough syrup with other ingredients and smoking pot, I know I'd like DXM and weed together...

[SumSkater540]

They have a really easy to find cheap brand called Delysm or Delsym...not sure which way u spell it but it is a orange liquid that is pure DXM...you can but it at Walmart in the section with the niquill. My friends and I have done it several times and one 150 ML bottle has enuff to put u into a 3rd plateau dose. I think its 800mg of pure DXM. It doesnt taste wonderful but its not as bad as some other liquid brands and I have never gotten sick off of it. Peace.

[jadeius]

cool, thanks sum...i'll look for it; I know what you're talking about, never stopped to look at it though...half a bottle would probably do me for the first try right?

[SumSkater540]

alright well first of all, DXM is alot differnt that other drugs. It doesnt work like pot where u just get a high that increases as u increase the dosage. It goes is stages. Their are 4 plateus(or levels of high) that u actaully get. The first one is just a mild drunk feeling, pretty clear headed. The second plateu is a really stoned/drunk feeling with sum like 2-D halicunations kinda like u get when ur stoned off u ass from pot. However i dont really like the first two beacuse theirs not really any euphoric feelings, at least i dont get them(some people do tho). The 3rd plateu is where things change completly. This is when DXM truly becomes a haliucinigen and u will for real start to trip. Im talking people coming out of the TV, trails, colors and stuff bending, and it can be a really cool expierence. I dont know much about the 4th level cuz its such a high dose have ive never reached that point but its suppose to be soooo freaking intense. If you only drank half of the bottel that wud be 400 mg of DXM. thats enuff for a beginnig 2nd plateu dose most likely. If i were u I wud drink half the bottle first, then wait say 30 min, and then drink almost all of the rest, so u get about 700mg of DXM. You should be tripping out of ur mind at that on a 3rd plateu. Remeber tho DXM is sensitive to your weight, so if u dont weigh much it might not take that much. I weight about 135 and 700-800 and i trip balls. Sorry that was so long but it need to be said. Safe tripping. Peace.

[slipknotpsycho]

ok with delsym....the dxm has a plastic coating (not actually a plastic but that's the best i can explain it now.....) so it takes longer to kick in.....and may take a slight bit more than just regular dxm to get anything. this coating has a couple of upsides and downsides tho first of all if you are to lazy to do an extraction method it has this really gritty feeling that makes me want to puke.....if you end up doing it enough and you get to the point where it just makes you sick you'll never be able to drink orange soda again lol...upsides are that the high lasts longer and the extraction method on delsym is the easiest out there.....just take a two liter container (or bigger doesn't matter) with a lid....pour the delsym in there then fill it up with water til about an inch below the lid....shake like hell for a couple of minutes and let it sit somewhere that it won't be disturbed for a couple of hours....after a couple of hours you will see the powder has accumulated at the bottom put a slit just above the line where the water/powder meet... wait for the water to drain the most of the way out then you can either devise your own method of injesting the powder or you can get a blow drier with a moderately high heat and dry it out that way then either parachute it (put it in a very small peice of toiletpaper and swallow it, or get some capsules that can be pulled apart and empty the current contents and stuff the dxm into those and swallow.....you don't need to cap it off (put the two peices back together once one has the dxm in it....) as to the first question.....that was either some seriously high powered and resonated weed, a combo of the dramamine (heard of it plenty never really done it, what's it like?) [most likely answer in this case] or it was just simply laced....

[jadeius]

yeah, didn't think about the weed being laced, high possiblity...

thanks much sum, no worries about the long post, i needed to read that anyways...

thanks also slipknot...never heard of that extraction but that's really fucking cool...so it actually collects as powder at the bottom...i don't get that since the dxm is dissolved in sugar water...have you done this before? but i'll try it fo sho...stuff's not that expensive anyways...

as far as body weight, i fluctuate between 100 and 120 lbs, so average weight is about 110...pretty little guy...21 yrs old...though to say the least, i have a pretty high tolerance for some substances (alcohol, pills, esp. hydrocodone/oxycodone), not sure about psychadelics though, never done any....

so if i get to the 3rd plateau, do you guys think i would need a sitter, i mean, would it be intense enough for me to freak out, especially since it would be a first for me with trippin?

[SumSkater540]

You might want to get a sitter to be on the safe side, DXM trips can range in intensity and i wouldnt do it in a place with alot of unsafe objects that u might accidently fall or trip on on end up accidently hurting yourself. Tho, most of the time on the 3rd palteu you dont really feel like moving around too much. As far as freaking out, you can have a good or bad trip with any drug, the feelings can be strange and take a little getting used to, but going into the trip with a clear mind and being in a good mood can help insure that u will have a good time.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml Thats a full FAQ on DXM that should answer all your questions.

You said that your between 100 and 120 lbs, so your dosage would probably be roughly somewhere between 500-600 mg. If that isnt enough then you can increase your dosage.(the extraction method that slipknot mentionted is a better way to do it since you would be getting pure dxm and not the polisterix form) Also i forgot to mention earlier, that some people can have a serious alergic reaction to DXM. Even tho its rare, you should probably do a low plateu does first(200 mg or so) just to be sure. Wait at least 2 days between trips. Peace.

[slipknotpsycho]

so it actually collects as powder at the bottom...
so if i get to the 3rd plateau, do you guys think i would need a sitter, i mean, would it be intense enough for me to freak out, especially since it would be a first for me with trippin?
yea since the dxm is like coated with somthing in there it never disolves into the water it will just float down to the bottom...in the delsym it's self it's perfectly balanced so that it all doesn't float down to the bottom so quickly but adding alot of water to the whole syrup breaks that perfect ratio up (i'm not positive on this but pretty sure the stomach acid is actually what enables it to open, which would also mean you can't snort this stuff) it just starts falling...takes a good while tho....longer you let it sit the better.
and i would highly suggest having a trip sitter there and make sure it's someone you can trust..... some people think it's funny to make someone freak out when they're tripping but that's not cool.... that kinda thing makes me wanna beat the shit out of the person even if they didn't do it to me....

[jadeius]

yeah, i think i'll be alright...i used to do all kind of crazy shit...i've drank bottles of nyquil when i was younger, which has alcohol and all kinds of other shit...i would drink it with a bunch of xanax...i've just never done dxm pure...

sounds like a good high

[jadeius]

http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml?CATID=100084&id=prod1267&skuid=sku301267&navAction=push&navCount=20

this is a dextromethorphan only product, it has 480 mg in the whole bottle...i think i'll get two bottles, drink one, and wait...would the water extraction work with this one?

[slipknotpsycho]

uhmm no it won't and i'd die before i'd drink that stuff mywife uses that stuff....it taste like a mixture between chewing already half bunrt and charred firewood and pepermint....it's not the poli whatever dex and that's the only kind the water extraction works for....others have to use a more complex and disgusting method that invovles ammonia, zippo lighter fluid and some other stuff.....

[jadeius]

oh i see, well i also found the cvs tussin cough formula max strength with just dxm...354 mg per bottle...uses glucose and stuff, but nothing real pukey...

[slipknotpsycho]

i would drink the tussin stuff before creomulsion...... some people might differ....my wife would perfer to drink that instead of tussin (just for being sick not trippin she don't do that) but that stuff even the smell makes me sick

[jadeius]

oic, well I would probably expect to at least feel sick...I've gotten diarrhea from all the sugar and stuff in a prescription cough syrup (codeine)...and I've gotten it once from some otc shit with too many drugs in it...i've been addicted to sugar for the past 20 years so i can prolly take it....I'm sad now because I gotta pay a $257 fine (I just paid a $922 fine) by May 4th, and my birthday is May 3rd, so my husband says we don't have the money to get any pot until after my birthday, since we gots the fine to pay (I got a DUI with open container)... :(

DXM may be the solution until I get some pot!