Most Ethical Congress Ever to Gut Ethics Office

[Islandborn]

Lawmakers seek to gut ethics office - Jonathan Allen and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38345.html)

Nov. 3rd is gonna be the funniest day in a long,long, time. So much for the post-partisan, post-racial, delusions of 2008. This administration is a bunch of amateurs with NO expierience........like crazy Cheney said....."these folks haven't got a fucking clue."

[boaz]

time to gut the congress. :jointsmile: till 'em all in, replant a brand new crop of independent lawmakers. :greenthumb:

[LegalizeTheGreen]

Island, you need to learn to read, and not blame a single person, administration, or political party for something everyone is doing. They are all in agreement on this issue. Both sides. Repubs and Dems alike.

Next time you want to place the blame on Obamas administration, make sure the article has somthing to do with it first. This is a congressional issue, and in case you forgot, the executive and legislative branches are seperate.

I'll agree all day that politicians are corrupt and stupid, but when you attack one side blindly with inaccurate facts, it just gets silly.

[CovertCarpenter]

Lawmakers seek to gut ethics office - Jonathan Allen and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38345.html)

Nov. 3rd is gonna be the funniest day in a long,long, time. So much for the post-partisan, post-racial, delusions of 2008. This administration is a bunch of amateurs with NO expierience........like crazy Cheney said....."these folks haven't got a fucking clue."

...cuz if they ain't out screwin' someone else, they be screwin' ever'budda...

And I prefer rookie, not-incumbent-and-therefore-power-mad politicians to the standard, 'garden' variety.

[killerweed420]

Seeing as how 3rd party candidates have very little chance in this country, just vote against the encumbent. You can stick with your usual party, just vote for soemone new. It will atleast help to bust up the good old boys club.

[gypski]

I'm going to vote against every anti-cannabis person on the ballot. If both are antis in any one office, I will write in a candidate even Donald Duck, Mickey and Minnie Mouse. And I'm absentee voting. :D

[boaz]

I'm going to vote against every anti-cannabis person on the ballot. If both are antis in any one office, I will write in a candidate even Donald Duck, Mickey and Minnie Mouse. And I'm absentee voting. :D

:D now there is a political stategy we can all agree on. :greenthumb: prohibs are idiots in general anyways. :jointsmile:

[boaz]

Seeing as how 3rd party candidates have very little chance in this country, just vote against the encumbent. You can stick with your usual party, just vote for soemone new. It will atleast help to bust up the good old boys club.

Yeah, I agree, that is a good idea and seems to be what is actually happening so far. beat them at the primaries if at all possible.

Its tuff here since we can only vote in the primary of the party we are registered for, zero if you are an independent, like me. :wtf: I might have to register this year, just for yuks.

[bigsby]

Island, you need to learn to read, and not blame a single person, administration, or political party for something everyone is doing. They are all in agreement on this issue. Both sides. Repubs and Dems alike.

Next time you want to place the blame on Obamas administration, make sure the article has somthing to do with it first. This is a congressional issue, and in case you forgot, the executive and legislative branches are seperate.

I'll agree all day that politicians are corrupt and stupid, but when you attack one side blindly with inaccurate facts, it just gets silly.

Bump: Well put. Constructive debate and a clear examination of the issues is always a good thing. Partisan sniping using ONLY one sided sources is useless.

[boaz]

^ point of info . . I'm not trying to speak for Island here or anything but I think what is refering to is the joy that he, and many other Obama voters, will enjoy this Nov. Their first chance to send The President a Congress of the other party. :pimp: I can relate to this, after voting for Bill Clinton in '92. :stoned: :eek:

Go U.S.A !! :rasta: :jointsmile:

[gypski]

^ point of info . . I'm not trying to speak for Island here or anything but I think what is refering to is the joy that he, and many other Obama voters, will enjoy this Nov. Their first chance to send The President a Congress of the other party. :pimp: I can relate to this, after voting for Bill Clinton in '92. :stoned: :eek:

Go U.S.A !! :rasta: :jointsmile:

Now, now, let's be totally honest here. There is plenty of blame to go around from both parties. The GOP isn't a bunch of choir boys either. Yes, more third parties are needed. I hate to say it, but it works in Europe more times then no. The key is to root out the corruption and keep the new comers honest. We need a public financed election system where all interested parties, PACs, and the rest all contribute to a common pool, equally divided between each and every candidate. This would give new parties a level playing field and keep the money grubbing motherfuckers out of it. :thumbsup:

[LegalizeTheGreen]

Boaz, for someone so quickly disenfranchised by Obama, I am surprised to see you going back to giving the republicans power, especially since for about the last decade, they have run our country into the ground. The republicans had their turn, I say give Obama at least till the end of his term before spouting outrageous expectations at unreasonable timetables. If Bush got 8 years of clusterfucking without being booted out, give Obama at least half that before we start calling for his head.

[bigsby]

And let's not forget, when Bush / the neocons took over we were not at war and we were running surplus.

[boaz]

Boaz, for someone so quickly disenfranchised by Obama, I am surprised to see you going back to giving the republicans power, especially since for about the last decade, they have run our country into the ground. The republicans had their turn, I say give Obama at least till the end of his term before spouting outrageous expectations at unreasonable timetables. If Bush got 8 years of clusterfucking without being booted out, give Obama at least half that before we start calling for his head.

Legalize, I should probably clarify, I wasn't really speaking for myself when I was talking about sending Obama a repub congress, I was just describing what I think some other people who voted for him might be experiencing right now. But, personally I've never been a big fan of having two branches owned by the same party, in general. There needs to be balance. kinda like a mexican standoff. :jointsmile:

Personally, I voted for John McCain. Obama is the polar opposite of me politically. but, that said, I was actually impressed when he stood by his word to honor state's rights, specifically to the MMJ issue. :greenthumb: He is still not really my cup of tea but I agree, he's not nearly as bad as Bush. :eek:

Bill Clinton left us with a surplus, something we had never seen in my life time. that was pretty cool. too bad he was such as scum bag, otherwise he had a pretty good run. but only after he was sent a repub congress. But, that congress also went ahead to try to pass a law where anyone caught with 2 oz's or more coming across the border would get the death penalty. :eek: so, yeah, be careful what you wish for.

So, in summary :rastasmoke: I'm not really a repub or a dem, either, I generally vote for the crooks that I think will do the least amount of damage and try to balance them out so they are basically in a clusterfuck. :D

[Islandborn]

Legalize, I should probably clarify, I wasn't really speaking for myself when I was talking about sending Obama a repub congress, I was just describing what I think some other people who voted for him might be experiencing right now. But, personally I've never been a big fan of having two branches owned by the same party, in general. There needs to be balance. kinda like a mexican standoff. :jointsmile:

Personally, I voted for John McCain. Obama is the polar opposite of me politically. but, that said, I was actually impressed when he stood by his word to honor state's rights, specifically to the MMJ issue. :greenthumb: He is still not really my cup of tea but I agree, he's not nearly as bad as Bush. :eek:

Bill Clinton left us with a surplus, something we had never seen in my life time. that was pretty cool. too bad he was such as scum bag, otherwise he had a pretty good run. but only after he was sent a repub congress. But, that congress also went ahead to try to pass a law where anyone caught with 2 oz's or more coming across the border would get the death penalty. :eek: so, yeah, be careful what you wish for.

So, in summary :rastasmoke: I'm not really a repub or a dem, either, I generally vote for the crooks that I think will do the least amount of damage and try to balance them out so they are basically in a clusterfuck. :D

I'll give Obama props for the MJ states rights issue. I'll also give him some love for his handling of Iraq and Afghanistan and the his increase in use of drone attacks anywhere anytime in the world......heads up jihadi's.

Ya see.....contrary to the loony lefties popular beliefs round here.....I can find some common ground with Obama. I also think he's an amazing father who spends alot of time (for the president of America) with his kids.

The lefties gotta admit though......the President throws like a girl.:hippy:
YouTube - Obama's First Pitch - D'oh!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBlwUfIoDk)

[apocolips31]

A Liar like Obama is isn't liken to just one political party, the lot of them are crooks.

[Islandborn]

A nice balancing in November will be good........like Boaz said...it did wonders for Clintons sleazy ass.....

[bigsby]

Yeah but Clinton's sleazy ass came into office facing a deficit and went out of office with a surplus.

[boaz]

... I also think he's an amazing father who spends alot of time (for the president of America) with his kids.

The lefties gotta admit though......the President throws like a girl.:hippy:
YouTube - Obama's First Pitch - D'oh!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBlwUfIoDk)

:D yeah, he is great with his kids! :thumbsup: I admire that, too. It must be hella difficult to be raising young'ns in the white house. the Obamas make it look easy. :cool: