View Full Version : New Grow. 7 Days since sprout. Check it out!
emcnpk
06-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Space: 3'x2'x6.5' (WxDxH)
Lighting: (4) 26w Daylight CFLs (for now, I have a 150w hps ordered)
Medium: 50/50 Potting soil/Perlite mix
Nutes: Fox Farm Advanced; Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom
Strain: BAGSEED!!!:stoned:
3 Plants; hoping for 1 female. One of the plants isn't growing nearly as fast as the other 2 for some reason. Any thoughts?
Monday morning they sprouted, so a little less than 7 days old. How do they look? Looking for some expert opinions =D
Right now I have them in small Styrofoam coffee cups, but I plan on transplanting to 6" clay planters in a few days. I have already started them on their first dose of Big Bloom trying to follow the FF feeding schedule, but I did cut it down to like 1/8th of the dose to start. They took it very well and seemed to grow quite a bit in 1 day.
Here are a few pics. More updates soon. Please comment etc
emcnpk
06-07-2010, 01:10 AM
Do these look normal for 7 days? I'm not very experienced. I'm thinking about adding 2 more cfl's when I transplant... any thoughts?
emcnpk
06-08-2010, 12:33 AM
Update:
Added (4) more 26w 6500K cfl's for a total of 8. I think that is enough to veg for a month or so; then to HPS.
Couple of pics too... I think they are about ready to be transplanted. Tomorrow night maybe.. anyone have an opinion?
GetThisOrDie
06-08-2010, 03:50 PM
They are doing fine.
Its never really a bad idea to add more light unless it makes it too hot in your grow space. Especially with CFLs since they lack penetrating power. Im sure you will find that more than 8 as the plants get bigger is a good idea. Also try placing the bulbs around the sides of the plants as well to make them bushier!
You can even leave them in there as side lighting even after adding the HPS.
Keep up the good work!
emcnpk
06-08-2010, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the comments. I creamed over your grow already =P
emcnpk
06-08-2010, 08:44 PM
Day 8
GetThisOrDie
06-09-2010, 12:21 AM
Thanks for the comments. I creamed over your grow already =P
Damn... didnt even take me out to dinner or anything... I feel cheated!!
:stoned:
Thanks for the compliment lol
GetThisOrDie
06-09-2010, 12:22 AM
How often are you watering them? They look a tad bit over watered...
emcnpk
06-09-2010, 01:23 AM
right now, once a day 2oz of water per plant... i think i have too much perlite in my mix because they are drying out really fast; gonna do 70/30 PS to perlite when i go to 6inch pots in a couple days
when i took that pic i had just watered them; prolly why they look droopy
the new leaves growing look kinda yellowish-green but the veins are deep green; think that is an over-watering problem or ph?
irydyum
06-09-2010, 01:45 AM
Let them dry out all the way for a couple days and keep an eye on them. Seedlings are very susceptible to a myriad of issues that can stem from overwatering, it's one of the top noob mistakes I see here.
Make sure they are DRY when you stick your finger in down an inch or so before you water again. Container weight can tell you a lot about water in the medium. Fill an empty cup with dry soil and feel it. Then compare it to your grow containers. It should feel oddly light when you need water.
Just a stupid question here, did you make a bunch of holes in the bottom of those cups? Please answer yes, if not that's likely the culprit. Cannabis roots need plenty of oxygen in addition to water. If you don't have proper drainage then it will get stagnant in the bottom of the container and starve roots of oxygen or start to rot them.
Also, sometimes when plants grow quickly the new growth will often come in much lighter than the older growth. The chlorophyll hasn't had time to react to light yet, it will darken in a day or 2. Observation I have noticed that is sometimes confused for a problem.
Just thought it was worth mentioning.
emcnpk
06-09-2010, 01:56 AM
thanks for all the helpful info
yes there are about 10-15 holes in the bottom of each cup
growing fast being the culprit of the discoloration seems highly likely; they have pretty much doubled their foliage in the past day or so
emcnpk
06-10-2010, 01:06 AM
Day 9... I knocked one over this morning and it came out of the cup; all in one piece thankfully. Anyway, the roots had circled the bottom of the cup about 3 times, and there were roots all the way around the sides as well.
Long story short, I transplanted them to the 6in clay pots; should hold em for a few weeks till 3gal.
I watered them just enough to get a few drips out of the bottom of each pot after the xfer. How long does it usually take for them to stand back up?
emcnpk
06-10-2010, 11:29 PM
Day 10... Nothing special
emcnpk
06-10-2010, 11:49 PM
anyone know why they would be drooping still? the temp is 76-78... 80 at the hottest times
bigsby
06-11-2010, 12:53 AM
Give them three days before you worry. Are they on nutes yet? I'm guessing no but if so, no nutes until they recover from the stress of transplanting. Same goes when you put them into the three gallon pots. I'm thinking they can go to at least 12" before they need to go into the three gallon pots. They should have plenty of room to stretch their roots now, and you want them to have some root room through flower in the new pots. Some people have recommended burying the step 1/4 - 1/2 inch during any transplant. I have not tried this myself though.
emcnpk
06-11-2010, 01:33 AM
thanks for the info... no nutes till Monday, then im just going to start the fox farm schedule at 1/4 strength.
would the plants benefit at all from (1) 2700K bulb during veg?
bigsby
06-11-2010, 02:27 AM
Additional light never hurts... OK at some point it becomes redundant. Throw in the additional light.
emcnpk
06-11-2010, 01:26 PM
Can I just buy those fish tank drops and use in my water to adjust the ph and remove chemicals ect? Is that safe for watering plants with, im pretty sure my ph is too high on my water, but i don't have a test kit.
any ideas or info would be great, thanks guys
GetThisOrDie
06-11-2010, 01:26 PM
Mixing the spectrums is a good idea. When I use CFLs I always mix it to give the plant a more complete spectrum of light.
Iry is right... over watering is one of the biggest mistakes. When the soil is dry and you pick up the pot you will know.
I also agree with Iry on the light green to dark with fast growth. My plants have always given the lime green almost yellow sometimes growth. The girl I just started flowering now comes out of the dark tent looking lime green as shit with new growth... 12 hours later when shes ready to go back in the dark tent she is all dark green.
GetThisOrDie
06-11-2010, 01:30 PM
I dont think the fish drops are the best idea...
PH is critical when growing cannabis, wether hydro or soil. A proper PH test kit with up and down is crucial. Also a PH pen is much better than test strips or color drop testing...
When you begin to mix nutes up it will discolor the water and be impossible to take accurate readings via color drops. If you arent adjusting your water then it most likely is too high if its tap. Light coloration with dark veins can be attributed to PH imbalance.
You can get a cheap milwaukee ph pen on ebay for $20 or less. GH ph up and down you can get in a bundle also for cheap.
emcnpk
06-11-2010, 01:44 PM
yea, thanks for the input guys... i kinda knew the answers but im cheap; all the new growth is dark green now too btw. Thanks for all the help so far
I'm really just using these bag seeds to experiment with; You inspired me to order some Blue Mystics :rasta:
Here was my last plant at 6 1/2 weeks old, like 4 days into 12/12. Just stumbled across it
GetThisOrDie
06-11-2010, 01:55 PM
That plant looks great. Good job.
I love the Blue Mystic... probably my fav strain so far. Ive grown it multiple times now and the smoke is always very fruity flavored and a great mix of head and body buzz. Had only one so far that turned blue though... Im sure if I had cold temps at night they all would have turned blue. Also the BM hardly smells compared to other strains. Zero smell in veg and a light mild one through flower. Good incase odor is a concern (i ordered them for that reason).
emcnpk
06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
That plant looks great. Good job.
I love the Blue Mystic... probably my fav strain so far. Ive grown it multiple times now and the smoke is always very fruity flavored and a great mix of head and body buzz. Had only one so far that turned blue though... Im sure if I had cold temps at night they all would have turned blue. Also the BM hardly smells compared to other strains. Zero smell in veg and a light mild one through flower. Good incase odor is a concern (i ordered them for that reason).
Yea, the smell part is what hooked me in; I'll be back later this afternoon
emcnpk
06-12-2010, 12:03 AM
So it takes 2 full days for the clay pots to dry out; I stuck my finger into the bottom and felt around for any moisture; very dry. I guess having the 40-50% perlite really makes them dry out quick. I gave each of them 8oz of 1/4 strength Big Bloom (1/2 tbsp/gal). Should I go straight water for the next feeding or stick with the quarter-strength blend?
Pic 1-3 are the plants in that order.
Pic 4 is all 3.
emcnpk
06-12-2010, 12:46 AM
I made a thread on the grow log forum. Moving over to there. Come see :D
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