Leaves Are Drooping Bad 5 Days Into Flowering ( HELP )

[MrSaRgEnT]

Its My First Grow : I have other threads on here but not had too many replies l8ly and my babies just look even worse !!

The leaves are drooping pretty bad on my plants especially at the top on the bigger 1. Its been under a 250 HPS 5days into flowering, through vegative stage i used a 250 MH and everything went great no drooping until night time but by the morning they were standing up properly. Im running the lights on a Digital Timer 12/12 im running from 11am/11pm. I checked them yesterday at around 6pm and the leaves were really looking down. Is there anything im missing or doing wrong ?????? il be pissed if this fucks up !!!!

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRICIATED.

[unkownSuperstar]

Its My First Grow : I have other threads on here but not had too many replies l8ly and my babies just look even worse !!

The leaves are drooping pretty bad on my plants especially at the top on the bigger 1. Its been under a 250 HPS 5days into flowering, through vegative stage i used a 250 MH and everything went great no drooping until night time but by the morning they were standing up properly. Im running the lights on a Digital Timer 12/12 im running from 11am/11pm. I checked them yesterday at around 6pm and the leaves were really looking down. Is there anything im missing or doing wrong ?????? il be pissed if this fucks up !!!!

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRICIATED.How often are you watering them? What is the temperature in your grow room, what nutes are you using? Soil or Hydro?

[bigsby]

I suggest posting in the plant problems forum (http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/) where this thread belongs and where you will get guru advice. That plant does not look well :(

You need to detail your setup as follows:

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:

1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
2) Distance from tops?
3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

Your medium:

7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
8) Size of container.
9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?

Your nutrients and water:

10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your grow room:

19) Indoors or outdoors?
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room?
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
24) From seeds or clones?
25) Is this an auto flower strain?

[THContent]

Maybe your overwatering.

[unkownSuperstar]

Just seen your pic, ( I only have screen half way up then the boss doesn't see). If it has just started as you have switched to flowering, did you flush your soil before you changed nutes? Could be a build up of salts in the soil. It could be overwatering or over nutes. Are the leaves turning up or down at he edges at all?

[MrSaRgEnT]

Everything else u mentioned is fine its only since i switched from 250w MH to a 250w HPS for flowering. What is the most common problems for this behaviour ??

thanks in advance.

[MrSaRgEnT]

Just seen your pic, ( I only have screen half way up then the boss doesn't see). If it has just started as you have switched to flowering, did you flush your soil before you changed nutes? Could be a build up of salts in the soil. It could be overwatering or over nutes. Are the leaves turning up or down at he edges at all?

Nope i didnt flush. And i dont think they are. the pic i took last nite so il be seeing them 2moro and i will update.

[TheChameleon]

A light change can make them droop... A plant will droop just before the lights go out at night,,, Mine do like an hour before lights out... I think it's the light change and they will get used to it...

[unkownSuperstar]

Nope i didnt flush. And i dont think they are. the pic i took last nite so il be seeing them 2moro and i will update.I wouls start by completelyflushing your soil. Mine were doing the same and I flushed the soil. Problem gone. Before you do make sure your soil is draining well, if it isn't you could be effectively drowning your plant even though you are overwatering. Its worth investing in a moisture metre jobby. I got one of ebay for a couple of quid. It tells me moisture, ph and light levels.

[MrSaRgEnT]

ok il try and give that ago. Thanks guys much appriciated

[cigarettes42]

Bleh! Moister meter!!! Why waste money on junk? Someone not to long ago wasted money on that shit and was relying on the unaccurate readings it gave and stressed his plant out. Whatever happened to common sence? When the soil is dry the pot will feel light. When it still has water it will feel heavier. Also to check the soil ph is just getting the soil runoff and checking that. That's way way more accurate and it costs nothing, givin that you already have a must have item "ph meter"

[GetThisOrDie]

i agree completely with cigarettes42... No need to buy those things that hardly ever work right. Its simple to tell... I know when I first started indoors it was one of my big concerns and worried about it. Once you get the hang of feeling the soil with your finger and feeling the weight of the pot then you will do fine.

[Mississippi Steve]

First thing you need to do is transplant into larger pots.... maybe 5 gallon buckets, they're rootbound. Second, keep it simple... its a weed.

[MrSaRgEnT]

First thing you need to do is transplant into larger pots.... maybe 5 gallon buckets, they're rootbound. Second, keep it simple... its a weed.

I thourght about doing that the other day but to be honest witht the bigger 1 i cant see anyway i could do it without causing any damage or even killing it altogether. Seen as its my first time il see it through its only about 6 weeks till harvest i already have germinated seeds ready to start over and will look to do it by the book. My leaves have stood back up pretty good and i still have about 9 days before i switch to Terra Floues so i will just feed water in hope that it will flush the soil ready for next nute. I cud Proberly switch pots with the smaller 1 but il see how it goes considering the both the same age im hoping the smaller 1 won't stretch to much.

Here are the updated pics i took, the leaves look alot better to my previous pic.

Thanks guys

[unkownSuperstar]

I thourght about doing that the other day but to be honest witht the bigger 1 i cant see anyway i could do it without causing any damage or even killing it altogether. Seen as its my first time il see it through its only about 6 weeks till harvest i already have germinated seeds ready to start over and will look to do it by the book. My leaves have stood back up pretty good and i still have about 9 days before i switch to Terra Floues so i will just feed water in hope that it will flush the soil ready for next nute. I cud Proberly switch pots with the smaller 1 but il see how it goes considering the both the same age im hoping the smaller 1 won't stretch to much.

Here are the updated pics i took, the leaves look alot better to my previous pic.

Thanks guys
Nice one, well done mate. Panic over!!!:)

[MrSaRgEnT]

thanks unkownSuperstar. I hope so mate =)


1 more thing. Do u think this will be ok. I have 2 big sheets of ply-wood n iv put tin-foil across it to reflect as much light as possible !. Its just occured to me that mabey thats what is making the leaves droop ??? what do you think ? sum1 told me about heat-spots when using ordinary foil ??.

here's a pic of the setup. thanks in advance

[Mississippi Steve]

Need to have a fan blowing in there to help control the heat from the lights.

[cigarettes42]

Tin foil isn't going to make it droop. It isn't good to use but won't make it droop. Untill you fill out that form your going to get guesses all the way and get recomended to buy fuckie equiptment you don't need and advice that is a shitty guess

[bigsby]

See my previous post below. Fill out the form and post in the appropriate place. By listing that information you will give people a solid foundation for evaluating your issues. Without that information you will only get guesses - try this, try that, don't do this, do that. This kind of stumbling around in the dark will kill your plant quick. Completing the form will also help you recognize areas of weakness with your setup.