Pre-employment drug test

[GorillaBoy]

Here's my situation:

I have an offer for an incredible job. Naturally, they want me to take a drug test. I have to go on Monday, which will be Day 28 since I last used. When I smoked, I took 3 to 5 hits a day from a one-hit pipe. The week before I quit, I was smoking less than that.

I've been detoxing for the last week by drinking lots of fluids (water, cranberry juice, Gatorade), going to the gym and sweating it up in the steam room. Last night, I used one of those home drug tests from Walgreen's and it came out negative.

I am 6' tall and weigh about 215 lbs. I also have a thyroid condition, which means my metabolism is slow.

I would prefer not to drink one of those detox drinks (I have failed two previous tests using those) or substitute.

If I do anything, I'll dilute.

I feel like it's been enough time, but have no way of knowing.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[jbdc123]

im no pro on these situations but from what i have read on this site, substituting is the best bet. i have yet to do it but im going to have to soon, so i cant tell you from previous experience.

[Deige]

Here's my situation:

I have an offer for an incredible job. Naturally, they want me to take a drug test. I have to go on Monday, which will be Day 28 since I last used. When I smoked, I took 3 to 5 hits a day from a one-hit pipe. The week before I quit, I was smoking less than that.

I've been detoxing for the last week by drinking lots of fluids (water, cranberry juice, Gatorade), going to the gym and sweating it up in the steam room. Last night, I used one of those home drug tests from Walgreen's and it came out negative.

I am 6' tall and weigh about 215 lbs. I also have a thyroid condition, which means my metabolism is slow.

I would prefer not to drink one of those detox drinks (I have failed two previous tests using those) or substitute.

If I do anything, I'll dilute.

I feel like it's been enough time, but have no way of knowing.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Go pick yourself up another home test kit and test yourself with the first void of the day. If you pass the test then you will be fine for your lab test.

On a further note, drinking shitloads of water(or any liquid for that matter) and sweating do nothing to help you pass a drug test. Only time, exercise, and a high fiber diet will help you to pass. Educate yourself with the Dilution thread at the top of the drug testing forum.

[GorillaBoy]

Go pick yourself up another home test kit and test yourself with the first void of the day. If you pass the test then you will be fine for your lab test.

On a further note, drinking shitloads of water(or any liquid for that matter) and sweating do nothing to help you pass a drug test. Only time, exercise, and a high fiber diet will help you to pass. Educate yourself with the Dilution thread at the top of the drug testing forum.

Thanks Deige. I will follow your advice and let you know what happens.

[GorillaBoy]

I bought a second home test kit and tested myself with the first void of the day. The top band (C) was a solid pink, the lower band (T) was extremely faint; you had to look really hard to see if there was a band. It looked like the outline of a band, just barely there. My girlfriend could see it, but I have my doubts.

This was Day 26 since I last used.

I'll be testing at the Quest Diagnostics lab on Monday, Day 28, in the early afternoon.

Should I be worried?

Should I dilute?

I have concerns...
:(

[Thereis]

This may not be the best, but it is what I would do.

On Sunday, I would repeat the first void of the day with a First Check home test for THC. I used them and they were totally dependable. I had the lab verify four different times for me. One time it was very faint, but the lab verified that it was negative.

Then at midday on Sunday, the same time I would take the Quest pre-employment test. Prior to taking it I would do a medium dilute as per this website.

1. I took unsweetened cranberry juice about four to five hours before the test.

2. I then took two 12 oz glasses of water. Over the next hour or two.

3. Then take B2 either by itself or in a one-a-day about 2 and a half hours before the test.

4. Then I took two 32 ounce containers of orange gatorade in the last two hours before the test.

5. I would be eating burgers and steak from yesterday on.

For what it is worth I passed. Two days earlier I had a real faint line from the First Check home test with the first void of the day. When I tested later after having drunk a fair amount of liquid, not a whole lot but a fair amount, the line was a lot more visible.

If you do this on Sunday, you can see how the liquid affects your test. It is not totally dependable, but it is pretty good as an indicator of what it is most likely to be on Monday. You can do another first void of the day test on Monday. And another before you go in to be tested. That is exactly what I did. I was called in to HR for the rest of my paperwork about ten days later. That was excruciating agony. My only worry was that it would come back as a negative dilute. The test just before I peed for them was a real strong line. The First Check tests are about $16.00 each for the THC tests at CVS.

I went through such mental anguish, that I am not smoking again until after I am no longer in the job market. It sounds like you will probably pass with a medium dilute, or with no dilute at all, but THC metabolites can change and be more or less at given times. I did so many tests that I could see mine go down steadily over a 22 day time period. So, mine were a constant decline, if you base it on line color. But line color is not a completely dependable reading of the quantity of the metabolite that they are testing for. Good luck.

The B2 is for color. The orange gatorade is for something, I forget just what, and the red meat is for creatinine or creatine. If you use your own pee the temperature concerns go away but the positive or negative concerns are still there.

[Thereis]

Just do not over dilute. You do not want a negative so bad that you over dilute.

[GorillaBoy]

Thanks Thereis.

Are you saying that on the Quest Diagnostics web site they advise you to do a medium dilute?

I plan on doing some kind of dilution on Monday morning as well as taking aspirin and vitamin B12. And yes, I'm going to be eating burgers and steaks for the next couple of days.

[Deige]

Thanks Thereis.

Are you saying that on the Quest Diagnostics web site they advise you to do a medium dilute?

I plan on doing some kind of dilution on Monday morning as well as taking aspirin and vitamin B12. And yes, I'm going to be eating burgers and steaks for the next couple of days.

Aspirin is now outdated, it was used to deter an old EMIT test that has now be improved. Also, its B2 or B complex, not B12. As far as I can tell your on the right track.

[Deige]

This may not be the best, but it is what I would do.

On Sunday, I would repeat the first void of the day with a First Check home test for THC. I used them and they were totally dependable. I had the lab verify four different times for me. One time it was very faint, but the lab verified that it was negative.

Then at midday on Sunday, the same time I would take the Quest pre-employment test. Prior to taking it I would do a medium dilute as per this website.

1. I took unsweetened cranberry juice about four to five hours before the test.

2. I then took two 12 oz glasses of water. Over the next hour or two.

3. Then take B2 either by itself or in a one-a-day about 2 and a half hours before the test.

4. Then I took two 32 ounce containers of orange gatorade in the last two hours before the test.

5. I would be eating burgers and steak from yesterday on.

For what it is worth I passed. Two days earlier I had a real faint line from the First Check home test with the first void of the day. When I tested later after having drunk a fair amount of liquid, not a whole lot but a fair amount, the line was a lot more visible.

If you do this on Sunday, you can see how the liquid affects your test. It is not totally dependable, but it is pretty good as an indicator of what it is most likely to be on Monday. You can do another first void of the day test on Monday. And another before you go in to be tested. That is exactly what I did. I was called in to HR for the rest of my paperwork about ten days later. That was excruciating agony. My only worry was that it would come back as a negative dilute. The test just before I peed for them was a real strong line. The First Check tests are about $16.00 each for the THC tests at CVS.

I went through such mental anguish, that I am not smoking again until after I am no longer in the job market. It sounds like you will probably pass with a medium dilute, or with no dilute at all, but THC metabolites can change and be more or less at given times. I did so many tests that I could see mine go down steadily over a 22 day time period. So, mine were a constant decline, if you base it on line color. But line color is not a completely dependable reading of the quantity of the metabolite that they are testing for. Good luck.

The B2 is for color. The orange gatorade is for something, I forget just what, and the red meat is for creatinine or creatine. If you use your own pee the temperature concerns go away but the positive or negative concerns are still there.

The gatorade is for specific gravity one of the other validity checks. And it doesn't have to be orange, any color will work. Great post Thereis, it was very informative.

[Thereis]

I am not saying that anyone advises a medium dilute. I am only saying that on Sunday afternoon, about the same time that you take the pre-employment test on Monday you take a home First Check test.

Prior to your taking it, do a dilute, but do not do a whole dilute. Only go halfway. That way your chances of getting a dilute on your pre-employment test are way low. If you do a medium dilute on Sunday (tomorrow) and you come up negative (I like a strong line too) then the odds are (no guarantee) that you only need to do a medium dilute on Monday. This is not a guarantee, but it is probably what a lot of people would take to the bank.

So.. to repeat and emphasize, you do a first void tomorrow morning, then do another test tomorrow afternoon. Do a dilute first, but only a medium dilute. If the medium dilute does not work, then you know to dilute more tomorrow. If you get a negative with a medium dilute on Sunday, then I would go with no more than a medium dilute on Monday.

There are no guarantees in this world for anything. Not this test, not for driving in rush hour traffic or on a Saturday night. Do not forget the B2, crush it in your mouth. Use gatorade. I like orange and would have gotten yellow. But people say the color does not matter. My pee on the test was neon green or yellow, but I am a little color blind. I hope you enjoyed your angus burger for lunch and really get into that prime rib tonight. Steak and eggs in the morning and maybe ribs tomorrow afternoon. You might as well enjoy the roses along the way.

Again, if you are stressed, do not smoke again. They may institute randoms at any time whereever you work. Also, it seems that word gets around in work places and that places a toker at risk.

I remember that I had a faint line on the first void of the day. Then I went bannanas and diluted. Not super much. One hour before my test, I did a first check test. It was for both cocaine and thc. I did a two drug test so I could compare the thc line with the cocaine line. I have not used cocaine. Both lines were pretty strong, though not as strong as the control line. So my only concern was getting a dilute. If I got a dilute, they would always be a little suspicious. You want to go totally under their radar on any drug suspicion. You do not know how this information will be used in the future. I know someone who failed a WalMart pre-employment test many years ago. He was recently denied a pain medication for his back by a nurse who had access to that information. She said he was a drug addict based on that one failed test for thc.

If you wish, send in all the first check tests to their lab for confirmation. Both the first voids and the afternoon ones. You will probably get the results of the first check lab tests prior to getting the results of the pre-employment test. It took me ten days to get my results. From now on, I will not sweat another pre-employment test because I am now 18 days after my pre-employment test and must be clean as a whistle (that is an expression) by now. If you are seeing lines with drinking then you are almost certainly clean or are approaching clean fast. Remember these are not guarantees I am only stating my opinion based on a lot of sweating and operational research. Good luck.

[GorillaBoy]

I don't have time to send in any tests to the lab because the test is on Monday.

I'm a little new to this game. Can you describe a "medium dilute" to me?

Thanks for all the information.

Will definitely be getting the B2.

[Deige]

I don't have time to send in any tests to the lab because the test is on Monday.

I'm a little new to this game. Can you describe a "medium dilute" to me?

Thanks for all the information.

Will definitely be getting the B2.

Cut the fluid intake of the Dilution thread in half and void 2-3 times before the the test.

[GorillaBoy]

Well, I took my test yesterday and was just informed that I start my new job next week.

Thank you Thereis and Deige for the invaluable tips and advice.
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