Floro cabinet grow in week 5

[rikb631]

this is my second grow overall my first grow i actually did in the areogarden alone and while i did have some small sucess with it let just say the plants were dwarfs compared to these ones. This time id actually like to get a yield that i can have around for more than a week or so. I switched to soil and its seemed to have paid off so far.

i started with 3 seeds 1 didn't pop. i germanated with the good ole papertowel bowl and saucer trick. moved them to peat pellets and have repotted them twice since the inital greenhouse phase. Im in week 5 and have just repotted to 5 gal buckets. Plant A is untrimmed compleatly and plant B ive topped and trimmed and i think im gonna do some LST on it once it recovers. im going to start flowering at the end of week 6 or maybe week 7. Im using 215w actual of florecent lighting at 5500k whitch gives me around 4875 lumens per square foot overall. While i am using miracle grow products i am being very careful not to over do the feedings about 1/2 the recomended dosage of tomato nutes whitch is 18-21-18. i do that once a week and just plain water every other time i started that at the begining of week 4. As the MG micro max already has nutes in it ive read its really easy to burn your plants but ive also readt that you can be sucessful if your careful. Also ive added about 30% perlite to the mix whitch you really cant see on the top but i promise you its in there.

As far as my seed stock goes I'm using bag seed and while i know thats not the prefered method but i had veen getting some pretty decent stuff from a long time source that has recently moved. being that i loved the strain, while not knowing what it was i knew that i loved the smoke... So near the end i started looking for healthy looking seeds and stored them so i could reproduce the bud that i had come to love. ill attach a pic of one of the buds i got the seeds from when i figure out how.

[rikb631]

also i cant seem to attach photos in this thread? not sure why but its not giving me the option.

[bigtopsfinn]

Sometimes you need a certain post count for attachments. Try uploading to photobucket.com first and then linking here with the link (globe + paperclip) icon or picture (mountain pic) icon above the reply text box.

[rikb631]

Pic 1 is what i got the seeds from

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/thedonor.jpg

Pic 2 is 2 weeks old

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/week2.jpg


Pic 3 is the day i transplanted ti the 5 gal buckets.

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/week55.jpg

Pic 4 is the big plant today

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/growing002.jpg

[Jakeyfr3sh]

They look really good man! I would say the one on the right looks ready for flowering in like a week! ;)

[rikb631]

start week 6

So my big plant is now over a foot tall and the little guy that i topped and trimmed is about 8"... i have about 2 feet left of grow upwards in the closet... i think ill be ok to start flowering today just want a few second opinions.

I have gone out and purchased the low spectrum cfls and tubes I will need. my next watering will be without nutes... i guess if i have one question is when to start the flowering nutes? do i wait til i see the flowers or if i do start to flower today just add it to the next cycle?

here are a couple of pics of what were looking like this morning.

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/growingweek6001.jpg

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/growingweek6002.jpg

[PhatJay]

Yeah, I would start flowering the one on the right today. With CFL's poor light penetration you don't want it getting much bigger as they will continue to stretch for the 1st 2 weeks of flower.

I can't help on the nutes question as I don't grow in soil.

... oh and they look really healthy btw, nice work. :thumbsup:

[rikb631]

Yeah, I would start flowering the one on the right today. With CFL's poor light penetration you don't want it getting much bigger as they will continue to stretch for the 1st 2 weeks of flower.

I can't help on the nutes question as I don't grow in soil.

... oh and they look really healthy btw, nice work. :thumbsup:


thanks jay... i figure ill flower them both and if i get a small yield out of the second plant than i dont think it will bother me too much. also i think it will give me a chance to hang my lights at different levels so penetration is less of an issue...

as for any first time growers that see this make sure you do your homework and read as much as humanly possible before starting a grow. check multiple sources for info and cross referance that with what you already know. even with this grow im sure ive made some mistakes. On my first grow i went in pretty blind and didnt realize how important it was to pay attention to details as far as this grow is going so far... i realize that it takes time to become a seasoned vet. ive still yet to get a decent yield out of anything, but i think i have the veggie part down now. i dont mind taking small steps but the goal is obviously some sensi buds.

hopefully we have a couple of females here and we can be very happy. even if i get a hermie i think ill be satisfied cause from what i understand if you get one and let it seed than the majority of those seeds will be females. I could be wrong, but i think thats what i read. well off to flower i go keep your fingers crossed that i got some ladies!

in case you were wondering i do have some northern lights seeds that i did get from a reputable bank... just figured id use the bagseed to get my feet wet as not to just be experimenting with stuff i paid good money for.

[rikb631]

so no suggestions on starting my bloom nutes?? i figure ill just water them normal tommorow and then in a few days start the bloom nutes, we'll see how it goes i guess.

[rikb631]

started my 12/12 this morning... 6:30am made all the preperations for absolutly no light leaks....

also im still wondrering if i should start my bloom nutes right away or wait til next week? they are due for water tonight, so if i could get a little advice on this it would be appreciated.

[rikb631]

im pretty suprized how much my plants have grown at the start of the 12/12 cycle when i woke them up yesterdaythey had grown almost 2 inches anyways here are some pics...


http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/flowerday2rev002.jpg

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af221/drbagseed/flowerday2rev001.jpg


also im wondering how long until i can attach thumbnails... otherwise im gonna have to go pro on photo bucket and that seems like its not the way to go.

[PhatJay]

also im wondering how long until i can attach thumbnails... otherwise im gonna have to go pro on photo bucket and that seems like its not the way to go.

I think it is post 20, imgur.com is a great free image host. I also think you can add your photos to your album before 20 posts and just ask people to look at your album. Feel free to put 2 spam posts in my current grow log, if you want to get to 20.

I didn't want to comment on the nutes because I don't grow in soil, but I am pretty sure it is ok to start the bloom nutes when you switch the lights to 12/12.

[rikb631]

went and picked up a bunch more lighting and hardware at the store today ill have more pics tonight after i wake up the babies...

found that GE 20w (=75w) soft white cfls are on sale 3 / $7.50 @ the local wally world they put out 1200 lumens ea. @ 2700k frequency. thought it was a deal so i grabbed some up. maybe worth a look for you lower budget folks like myself. also grabbed the last 3000k floro tube for the uprights... whitch leads me to this question about the frequency of the lighting...

So would it be better to run all my lights lower and higher frequency for the flowering for the extra lumens? or should i just stick with all the lower frequncy ones? if i just run the lower ones ill have about 5560 lumens/sq ft if i go with both it would be a little more than double that.

also after a couple of days of flowering i know now that i probably should have flowered sooner. its just a guess but the larger plant has grown about 2 inches each time ive shut the lights off. its almost unbelievable. i can still take the bottom shelf of my cabinet off if it really comes down to it but i was really hoping i could use the space to start some seedlings early for the northern lights grow i plan to do next.:thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

So would it be better to run all my lights lower and higher frequency for the flowering for the extra lumens? or should i just stick with all the lower frequncy ones? if i just run the lower ones ill have about 5560 lumens/sq ft if i go with both it would be a little more than double that.


The more light the better. Also, your plants will appreciate the broader range of light frequencies, having blue and red spectrums makes the light closer to natural light. If you can run all your lights, do it.

[rikb631]

new pics of lighting change... also i could fit all of the lights but 2 in there at once so im gonna have to think it over about space management. also as you can see im running out of vertical room very quickly good thing i have the space below or id be screwed. im gonna have to find a new place to put my supplies. ;)

[PhatJay]

Hows the ventilation in your wardrobe/grow cabinet? I see you have a fan to circulate the air, but do you have extract or intake fans?

[rikb631]

Hows the ventilation in your wardrobe/grow cabinet? I see you have a fan to circulate the air, but do you have extract or intake fans?



If you look at the very top of the cab ( first pic of the latest ones) i have two 4 inch fans mounted. so id say its ok also i keep my cool mist humidifier in the space underneath. also there is another fan on the other side at the bottom that was previously mounted on the top.

[rikb631]

here is a pic of the fans from the top... so anyways as you can see for this grow im utalizing the duct tape.

[rikb631]

still no signs of preflowers whitch could be a very good thing... plants have grown about 7 inches since the last post. here are some pics.

also im wondering if i should trim up some of the droopy undergrowth that doesnt get much light... thoughts and tips are always welcome.

[PhatJay]

here is a pic of the fans from the top... so anyways as you can see for this grow im utalizing the duct tape.

Most of my grow is held together by duct tape. I'm not sure if it is possible to grow cannabis indoors without using it. :D


also im wondering if i should trim up some of the droopy undergrowth that doesnt get much light... thoughts and tips are always welcome.

Pruning out the the lower branches is something I havn't got a handle on yet. I'm too cautious and don't take out enough. If you do prune, it is best to do it in the veg period before they go into flower. Pruning during the flowering period can stress your plant making it more susceptable to pests, disease and herming. I pruned my plants on the 1st day of 12/12, which is a bit late really. They didn't seem to mind though, some strains are more tolerant than others.

[jtsik330]

Your girls look great. If your going to prune I would do it now but honestly since it is a bagseed I would just let it grow. I've hadn't had alot of luck with bagseeds in the past so now I try and be gentle. Some seeds thrive in anything. Next grow try giving the ladies 48 hours of total darkness, they tend to show signs of sex a few days quicker. Good luck during flower:jointsmile:

[rikb631]

i think the bigger plant is a female!!! here is a pic of why i think so. im pretty excited about this fact!!

[PhatJay]

i think the bigger plant is a female!!! here is a pic of why i think so. im pretty excited about this fact!!

I spy with my little eye, two little "white hairs."

:thumbsup:

[rikb631]

ya woke them up yesterday and fed them the bloom nutes (15-30-15) and bam bout 8 hours into the light cycle i noticed those hairs. almost went blind looking for them, but i found'em... this was the first bloom feeding. :thumbsup:

im considering culling the shorter one if i dont see any signs of sex by monday night, as i said b4 it wasnt the strongest plant from the start. i also made the mistake of putting it in the 5 gal pot too early. IMO it wasnt ready. i know this because the soil isnt drying out. i skipped the mid week watering this week and it was still moist about 5 inches down in the pot when i fed last night. Im also thinking i can position the lighting better around the healthier one to max out bud production.

these are my first real flowers on a plant that has been able to go through a decent veg cycle. next time i plan to go with some Fem seeds, so i can be sure not to waste time with my limited growing area. i may even go auto flower if i see something i like. thanks for the vote of confiednce jay... like i said i hope my plant looks 1/2 as nice as yours.

[jtsik330]

take clones from the bottom of your lady. It will cancel out the "needing fem seeds" aspect that was killing me before I couldn't clone. Don't give up hope on the little one. Practice cloning on her. Try getting her back outta the bucket and add perlite or stones to increase drainage. I hate to see a girl wasted:)Good luck on the rest of the grow it heathly girl looks great!

[rikb631]

more pics... so i havent seen much on the branches as far as pistils goes here are a few pics of whats going on this morning.

[rikb631]

so i ended up culling the shorter one chances are i went too crazy with the trimming along with repotting it too soon. i was running out of room for the strong plant that i knew was female she seemes to fit nicer in her new space. still 50/50 on if i should to start the veg again and use her as a mother or just go forward and compleate a life cycle and say ive actually got one done. id have to make a separate spot for flowering too and im a little constricted for space so while i may only get 1 plant this time next time i plan on knowing the genetics of my plant b4 i grow it. and will probably be better funded to produce a flowering area.

So she now stands approx 22 inches in hieght. I have about 20 inches of vertical grow space left. suggestions for some LST techniques that would be applicable for my space would be appreciated. Also if i top her will that slow the vertical growth much? is it too late to use the scrog method? basically any suggestions on maybe keeping this puppy from growing out the roof of my cabinet would be nice. anyways hers a pic of the changes i made today.

[G13budsmoker]

looks good man. just my opinion, i would take a cut off the top so that you will be able to continue another cycle. cause who knows, you might end up liking the way this plant effects you, even know you dont know its genetics. and if you take one off the top it will phocus the energy into the other 4 main branches, keeping it from getting so tall. not having much space does suck, but losing a strain that you may end up liking, sucks even more. good luck man!

[rikb631]

looks good man. just my opinion, i would take a cut off the top so that you will be able to continue another cycle. cause who knows, you might end up liking the way this plant effects you, even know you dont know its genetics. and if you take one off the top it will phocus the energy into the other 4 main branches, keeping it from getting so tall. not having much space does suck, but losing a strain that you may end up liking, sucks even more. good luck man!

wurd, agreed... it seems to grow nice as well. i do have twenty more seeds from this strain. once it really buds out im hoping to maybe get some guesses on what it is. when ever i got it from my connect it always had like 10 - 15 seeds per ounce and it was still dank... this would be my first time smoking it sensi though. i saved the healier seeds near the end. it would have been nice if i had saved some pollen from my last batch and pollenated one of these buds. but alas i failed there. maybe next time. also i t would be nice if i could get my hands on some strong pollen, but i hear a good male is hard to come by and that people dont give it up that easy.

i think im just going to flower this one so i can get a comfort level with the flowering. Im not the most expierienced grower so i dont want to ruin the one plant i have by chopping her up too much. also id like to determine how much i can expect to harvest from a plant of this strain. thanks for the advice though man besides i dont have any place to put a cloning set up right now. i will consider topping her just want to wait for a few more people to wiegh in on it b4 i just go snipping her to shreds.


also this morning im starting to notice lots of buds forming on the outer shoots and a few clusters on the main shoot... bout 5 or 6 more weeks til harvest hopefully. this maybe the most fun ive had since i fired an AT-4 rocket launcher in basic training!!! seriously im having a great time growing, it seems to be something ill be doing for a long time god willing. These are my baby steps right now. So while i may not have the best growing operation im having a great time with what i got.

[rikb631]

so i had this on another post figured id add it to my grow log.... ive updated it a little too.

What is your experience level?
2nd time grower

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights.
florecent 261w actual.
.2) Distance from tops?
2- 4 inches
.3) Reflector type?
bare bulb
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
Yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
Yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
24/7 veggie.. 12/12 flower... bout half and half 2700k and 5500k and assorment 15w tubes, 20w 23w and 27w cfls.

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, and anything you've added to it.
Miracle Grow Micro Max w/ miracle grow peralite.
.8) Size of container.
5 gal
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
Peat pucks, seedlings

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water?
Poland Springs
10.a)What's it's ph before adjusting?
7
11) Method of checking water ph.
Aqaruim test kit
12) Method of adjusting water ph.
n/a
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
18-21-18 miracle grow tomato, miracle grow bloom booster 15-30-15 (flower) once per week. pending on time dosage was varied. 1/2 mix at week 4 on the tomato. full dose week 5. approx 3/4 of a gallon per feeding. full dosage of bloom started at the begining of the second week of flower.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
3 days after feeding i water bout 3/4 of a gallon of poland springs.
15) Any additives or tea's?
n/a
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
stable
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
7, runoff is 7 or 6 its hard to tell on the aquarium kit but it seems pretty stable.
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?
Just water twice a day for the veggie. not spraying for flower

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
about 3.5 sq ft
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
75 - 82... every now and again it will spike to 84 prolly every third day. 40% - 45% Humidity
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
no

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing?
Indica
24) From seeds or clones?
Seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
No

these are my mater (tomato) plants i had the nutes and soil.i grow maters every year, so i figured id just use it for the pot seems. to have worked out ok my maters look worse than my indoors :D.

[PhatJay]

So she now stands approx 22 inches in hieght. I have about 20 inches of vertical grow space left. suggestions for some LST techniques that would be applicable for my space would be appreciated. Also if i top her will that slow the vertical growth much? is it too late to use the scrog method? basically any suggestions on maybe keeping this puppy from growing out the roof of my cabinet would be nice. anyways hers a pic of the changes i made today.

Topping is done during the veg period and it can take a week or 2 for the plant to recover fully. I think it would be a bad idea to top now, it is going to stress your plant. I think your plant is about 11days into flower? The stretch stops after about 14 days.

A bit of LST'ing is your best bet imo. You could spread out the branches and train/tie down anything that is too tall. Something like this...

Cannabis Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/indoor-growing/245870d1274840294-small-closet-grow-log-dscn0198.jpg)

[rikb631]

ok so when i wake her up today ill do some of this lst'ing you speak of... i guess ill spend most of the day reading bout it i imagine its not rocket science... but ill be sure to read a few items on it. i think i had seen a video that said you could top at anytime,?, but im cautious to do so anyways so i think ill just let her grow and see what happens. thanks again jay.

[PhatJay]

ok so when i wake her up today ill do some of this lst'ing you speak of... i guess ill spend most of the day reading bout it i imagine its not rocket science...

It's a pretty simple process, I'm sure a man of your calibre won't have any problems doing it.



i think i had seen a video that said you could top at anytime?

You may have done, but I have read quite a few bits and pieces on topping and fimming and they all do it in veg, I can only go by what I have read. If you come across some information that states otherwise, post up a link in the thread, I am still learning as well. :)

[rikb631]

It's a pretty simple process, I'm sure a man of your calibre won't have any problems doing it.




You may have done, but I have read quite a few bits and pieces on topping and fimming and they all do it in veg, I can only go by what I have read. If you come across some information that states otherwise, post up a link in the thread, I am still learning as well. :)

ya i think it was on one of th urban grower videos on you tube. i looked for it but i couldnt find it. maybe i was mistaken. ill prolly leave it alone anyways... gonna go pic up some string and start the lst at some point in the next day or two... i think it will help me further with the light penatration as well ill be able to hang the cfls on the side lower... if it is 14 days of streching i think the main shoot will be fine. that would bring it to saturday, on the average of about an inch and a half a day, that puts her around 28 inches or so by day 14 of flower.

[PhatJay]

if it is 14 days of streching i think the main shoot will be fine. that would bring it to saturday, on the average of about an inch and a half a day, that puts her around 28 inches or so by day 14 of flower.

The stretching will stop around 14 days, but the main cola/shoot will continue to push upwards as it develops. To give you an idea of how much to expect, my plants were 15" when I put them into flower. The canopy is now at 19-20" and the main cola is at 27".

[rikb631]

we i have started to see some signs of budding on the side branches... also were at about twenty four inches today. heres a few more pics of my lovely lady. guess not much more to do but sit back and watch her grow.

[rikb631]

so im trying to decide on wether or not i should tie down the main stalk of the plant. just woke the her up and were now at 25 1/2 inches tall. at the rate of an inch and a half a day by day 14 this will give me aproxx 31 inches of growth. assuming the strech stops there i will have about 16 inches of grow hieght left for the last 6 weeks of flowering. is this going to be enough space? should i tie down the main stalk as well? i guess what im asking is how much will she grow approx after the initial flowering streach should i expect? thanks again.

[rikb631]

also im starting an outdoor grow on city/town protected wetlands. nobody goes in there... matter of fact its a pain in the ass to get to...just a bunch of crappy bagseeds, not the strain im growing now... just doing it for fun not really anything serious... ive been saving random bagseed for a few years. just tried to germinate about 30 seeds only about 16 of them popped. basically im mixing them all up in potting soil and just placing it out in a clearing in the woods... nothing too fancy but we'll see how they do. :thumbsup:

[PhatJay]

i will have about 16 inches of grow hieght left for the last 6 weeks of flowering. is this going to be enough space?

Yes.


should i tie down the main stalk as well?

If your CFL bulbs were mounted in a reflector, having a main cola sticking up above the canopy means that the lights are quite far from the secondary buds and this will decrease your yield. Because you have bare bulbs and can hang them around the main cola nearer the top of the canopy, training the main cola is not critical, as your secondary buds should still be close to your bulbs.

[rikb631]

Yes.



If your CFL bulbs were mounted in a reflector, having a main cola sticking up above the canopy means that the lights are quite far from the secondary buds and this will decrease your yield. Because you have bare bulbs and can hang them around the main cola nearer the top of the canopy, training the main cola is not critical, as your secondary buds should still be close to your bulbs.

word... thanks again jay! you'd think that you were the only guy reading this. :cool: . ya i may not even bother with tie downs... ive been kinda moving the secondary branches and getting them to position themselves on the left or right side of the cabinet. they have seemed to taken to it well, i imagine its cause that where most of the light is. a couple of times a day over the last couple of days. i just went in there and moved them to where i wanted them and they are now just staying there.

[rikb631]

were at 28 inches now hairs are starting to form on every branch... i havent watered yet this week, the soil is about dry enough to water but i think im gonna let her dry out pretty good and water on saturday without nutes. as there is no real marijuana schedule for miracle grow, ive decided to skip the feeding this week as i havent yet watered them and the soil has nutes already. i think with the lighting change she is drinking less. is this normal? the soil around the edges is dry to about 5 inches down but i can tell the soil near the center is still moist.

the bottom foliage has started to trim itself, it may not be getting enough light. i may need to add a cfl or two near the bottom. although it may not be as big of an issue as i think. for the next grow the whole cabinet will be repainted white i didnt forsee that the plant would get this big. I'd rather not paint it at this stage.

anyways here is a few more pics aprox 6 weeks from harvest and i cant wait.

[PhatJay]

i think with the lighting change she is drinking less. is this normal? the soil around the edges is dry to about 5 inches down but i can tell the soil near the center is still moist.

The amount they drink can vary over the life of the plant and temperature is also a factor in how much they drink (on a hot day my plants can drink 20-30% more). I started logging the amounts of water my plants drink each day at the start of flowering week 2 (before I just made a weekly note). I don't recall a drop in consumption when I switched the lights to 12/12 but I wouldn't be to concerned if I were you. I did notice a big increase in water consumption at week 3 of flower on both my grows, but this may be due to Cannaboost which is a food additive that increases the photosynthesis rate of plants (I started adding it at week 3).


the bottom foliage has started to trim itself, it may not be getting enough light. i may need to add a cfl or two near the bottom. although it may not be as big of an issue as i think.

Adding light at the bottom is a good thing to do. If the bottom buds don't get enough light they mature very slowly and end up being really small (called popcorn buds). This is the reason people prune away the lower branches during veg, it means the plant can focus it's energy on the main cola and secondary buds.


for the next grow the whole cabinet will be repainted white i didnt forsee that the plant would get this big. I'd rather not paint it at this stage.

Just a thought, how about painting some cardboard white and taping it to the sides of the unpainted areas of your cabinet?

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Looking at the latest pics, have you had to remove the shelf the plants were on to give you more headroom? Those side lights were perfectly placed before, now a lot of the light they are giving out is wasted. Can you move them lower?

[rikb631]

Just a thought, how about painting some cardboard white and taping it to the sides of the unpainted areas of your cabinet?

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Looking at the latest pics, have you had to remove the shelf the plants were on to give you more headroom? Those side lights were perfectly placed before, now a lot of the light they are giving out is wasted. Can you move them lower?

Yes, i have removed the lower shelf to add more headroom. Yeah i have to get some extention cords as the lights of the left side of the cabinet do not have a long enough cord to reach lower. I had planned on it but had a death in the faimly this week so ive been preoccupied with that.

im planning on doing a little shopping today. i'll look for some white cardboard while im out.its mostly the larger fan leaves at the very bottom that have been affected.

[rikb631]

ok so i lowered the T8 15w tubes... heres a few pics. as i said b4 all the leaves under the canopy started looking pretty sad. on a side note happened across some lemony sativa today and while i normally prefer the indica strains this stuff tastes awesome and the high is very clean! :jointsmile: super lemon haze in now on my future grow wishlist.

[rikb631]

So i fed a half dosage of the bloom nutes today 3/4 of a gallon as i have been since i started the 5 gal buckets. i have found at 3/4 i do not have so much run off. as stated b4 i skipped the mid week watering cause the soil was still damp around 5 inches or so down.

i didnt add any type of gravel for drainage at the bottom that mistake will never happen again. i was thinking maybe lava rocks? suggestions always appreciated.

She looked a little depressed today. i may have went a day or two too long without water. also i had a temp spike up to 87 degrees. i really felt like i needed to let the soil dry out more than normal. i think i have a fear of ruining her at this point. Also moving my T8s down has seemed to have made the undergrowth have a bit of a comeback.

here are some pics as always.:D

[CovertCarpenter]

im pretty suprized how much my plants have grown at the start of the 12/12 cycle when i woke them up yesterdaythey had grown almost 2 inches anyways here are some pics...

*nice pic of plantlets, btw*

*also, nice closeup showing nifty cheapie CFL fixtures :)*


also im wondering how long until i can attach thumbnails... otherwise im gonna have to go pro on photo bucket and that seems like its not the way to go.

Use Imgur dot com for your photo needs--it's a free service, and you can link into nice huge images, if ya want.

For the drainage thing, yeah, lavarocks can work... or pre-sift some Perlite, and use a layer of the coarse stuff at the bottom.

For watering, if you're in soil, the easiest test is to pick the plant up. IF you can do this easily (it is way too 'light'), it is time to water. Soak it, then let it dry again. I've noticed that my plants seem to go thru a mini-growth-spurt every time they get ready for water/food.

And yes, 87f is too warm, but as long as you have lots of air movement, it shouldn't hurt 'em that much. Over 90 can be dangerous. Worst Thing Ever is when you let 'em get dry, then cook 'em. That really hurts.

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And yes, 87f is too warm, but as long as you have lots of air movement, it shouldn't hurt 'em that much. Over 90 can be dangerous. Worst Thing Ever is when you let 'em get dry, then cook 'em. That really hurts.

ya my cool mist humidifier ran out of water, normally it doesn't get above 82, i guess it was just a freak occurance. I may have went a day too long for water, i think i was being too cautious. anyways I'll have some more pictures of her later on tonight after i wake that bioch up... idk whos more work my girlfriend or my plant. ... hmm, at least the plant doesn't talk back :D !

oh yeah and Beat LA!

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ok so i think the bud production slowly starting to ramp up, and i have to say honestly i was a little scared looking at other pic of plants after thier second week of flower. Some opinions on how the buds look would be appreciated.

Ok so i may be running into a problem here that i kinda already knew about... I have approx 11 inches left for upward growth. minus the lighting leaves me about 8 inches. every day im moving the light up a little more. SO with the alloted space left will I have enough? if not what the heck should i do? I've never had a plant this big before so im really in the dark on the personal expierience of having her in this stage.

some more pics as promised.

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ok so heres some more of the forming buds.

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Watered today just poland springs no nutes... she drank just about 2 and a half gallons with only 14 ounces of run off. she was a thirsty one. the verical growth seems to have slowed some she seems to be looking fuller as the days progress.

more pics sorry for the ones out of focus.

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so i didn't go too crazy with it just wanted to start the bend today. I'm being forced into this cause of my own doing... i obviously waited too long for flowering now i get to play around with this. prolly should have started LST way earlier but im gonna take it slow as not to stress the plant out too much. input on keeping my main shoot down would be appreciated and taken into consideration. mind you im mid week 3 of flower and haven't a clue as to what i can do other than this to control the over all growth of the main stem.

anyways here are some pics

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so heres some pics.. fed today full strength bloom nutes 1 1/2 gallons til run off. the buds are forming at an increased rate. a couple of the fan leaves seem to have some ozone damage? i went out today and forgot to leave the AC on. it was at 81 when i got home but had a spike to 89 today... i was gone for 5 hours. it may be an Mg problem or it could just be a little pissed that i bent it over... the main stem still wants to grow up im gonna tie it down at a higher point tommorow. either way you can see it on the pics if you look close at the fan leaves.