Boycott the Aurora Mall

[Adamkadmon]

If you have not yet looked at the thread regarding one of our members and the Aurora Mall I encourage you to do so.

http://boards.cannabis.com/colorado-co/185266-draconia-tactics-aurora-mall.html

I'm looking for a few people who would like to help me organize a boycott of the mall until a formal apology to Jake (member involved) from the mall and the police stationed there has been given in a public manner, press conference style. I would really appreciate someone with experience doing this kind of thing to point me in the right direction. Thanks guys. Let's keep the momentum!
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[Justabloke]

I've done some calling to the mall today. I've called Dillards, JC Penny, and the mall itself. None of them seem to care. I'm guessing they'll start to once they start to lose BIG money.

Let me know how I can help.

j

[Justabloke]

I just talked to Miguel and he is VERY intrested in it. He says he wants to track it down though the APD. Have Jake email me at my business email and I'll make the connection. [email protected]

J

[throatstick]

i think a good quick way to get a ton of attention is get a billboard spot on i25 or close to the mall....i have'nt went to the mall since 97 last time i was at one was when i was a teen.i was a gameroom mgr,and everyone that worked in the mall would end up coming in on their breaks.the leo station was right next door to the gameroom.i would see the bs they would pull everyday.their was only 1 gaurd outta the whole bunch i was friends with.he was a body builder we used to go workout together.he was cool and did'nt act like the rest.which is odd cause most meatheads are full of themselfs.he was a marine too.but most workers in the malls are cool just there to make a living.

the mgr's tho are on a power trip and they love to work with the gaurds.everything in the mall is marked up 100% it's a waste of money only place i do go if i have to is book stores if there is'nt one not connected to the mall close by.

[vegetabongrips]

I'm not sure if I should be replying to this thread or the other one, but what the heck does the fact that this kid have a MMJ license have to do with anything else in that story at all?

It's a lousy situation, and I don't support the first contact (assuming it was entirely just cuz of the kid's t-shirt)...but even considering the horrible lack of details I'm working with, it kinda looks like the kid started acting like an obnoxious punk when approached, and that's always only going to escalate things...which is what happened. I'm not surprised.

What I am, tho, is offended by the line, "Apparently being a card caring patient makes no difference to the Aurora police." It shouldn't make any difference to the Aurora police in this matter. Can you imagine how egregious it would be if they allowed someone to wear that shirt simply on the basis that they were a card holder...but if you're not a card holder, sorry, no pro-pot shirts for you. I'd be first in line to boycott the mall in that case.

[Reenster]

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I'm not sure if I should be replying to this thread or the other one, but what the heck does the fact that this kid have a MMJ license have to do with anything else in that story at all?

It's a lousy situation, and I don't support the first contact (assuming it was entirely just cuz of the kid's t-shirt)...but even considering the horrible lack of details I'm working with, it kinda looks like the kid started acting like an obnoxious punk when approached, and that's always only going to escalate things...which is what happened. I'm not surprised.

What I am, tho, is offended by the line, "Apparently being a card caring patient makes no difference to the Aurora police." It shouldn't make any difference to the Aurora police in this matter. Can you imagine how egregious it would be if they allowed someone to wear that shirt simply on the basis that they were a card holder...but if you're not a card holder, sorry, no pro-pot shirts for you. I'd be first in line to boycott the mall in that case.

The reason him being a patient was mentioned is because the police told him he was advocating something illegal. He mention, for him it was legal, since he had his card. The officer just made a snide remark.

Him being a card holder does not give him the right to wear the tee shirt, the First Amendment does and the Colorado supreme court upheld that in 1991. Also Miguel Lopez, marijuana activist, had similar experience at a Denver Mall. He was harassed because of his view.

Also this is really not about a kid but a 28 year old man, that works hard, pays taxex and votes. His rights were violated and if we let this stand what could be next. I am sure they would not be happy with anyone handing out pro marijuana pamphlets in the mall prior to the November vote in Aurora to decide if they will allow dispensaries.

We have the right, a mall is not private property. I am sorry that your were offended but how would you feel if you were taken to a polcie substation just because you refused to turn your shirt inside out. I am a patient as well, and this man's mother. He did not bring up his medical standing till the police questioned it's legality. He feels he is an activist not only standing up for his own rights but everyone elses.

I respect your opinion, and hope you will learn more about this as the story will unfold. This is not about medical marijuana but about the freedom to express your views in a public forum without creating disturbance.

[TurboALLWD]

no pro-pot shirts for you. I'd be first in line to boycott the mall in that case.

That's exactly what their saying, so get in line. And I'm willing to bet you're the only one that thinks he was acting like a obnoxious punk kid. You need to take the biggest bong rip you can possibly inhale and take another look at you're post here. I myself will enjoy my new vaporizer, keep hacking away at you're bong! :thumbsup:

[vegetabongrips]

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The reason him being a patient was mentioned is because the police told him he was advocating something illegal. He mention, for him it was legal, since he had his card. The officer just made a snide remark.

Okay, so YOU are the one bringing it up in the completely irrelavent manner? It shouldn't matter that he's a card holder, it doesn't matter that he's a card holder. There's plenty of battles mmj patients already face, no sense turning non-mmj issues into mmj issues.


Him being a card holder does not give him the right to wear the tee shirt, the First Amendment does and the Colorado supreme court upheld that in 1991. Also Miguel Lopez, marijuana activist, had similar experience at a Denver Mall. He was harassed because of his view.

"The Colorado court noted a highly visible governmental presence in the mall, including a police substation, military recruiting offices and county voter-registration drives"

Aurora mall is missing two out of the three. And that was the entire basis for considering Westminster mall "public".


I am sure they would not be happy with anyone handing out pro marijuana pamphlets in the mall prior to the November vote in Aurora to decide if they will allow dispensaries.

Whoa now. They could stop people from handing out literature all they wanted and that's not a freedom of speech issue. Neither is this t-shirt thing. The security guards at Aurora Mall do not represent the government, on any level. You really can't compare this to the 1991 case when the defining characteristics of the 1991 case are missing in this case.


We have the right, a mall is not private property.


The Aurora Mall is owned by Simon Property group. It is 100% private property minus the (mini) police station.


I am sorry that your were offended but how would you feel if you were taken to a polcie substation just because you refused to turn your shirt inside out.

I'd feel like I'd just acted like I was 15 all over again.


I am a patient as well, and this man's mother. He did not bring up his medical standing till the police questioned it's legality. He feels he is an activist not only standing up for his own rights but everyone elses.


The moment he/you/whomever brings up patients rights, this is no longer for everyone's rights, but patients. The situation is best described as a freedom of speech issue (even tho, as mentioned, it in no way violates the 1st Amendment)...it is not an MMJ issue.

[vegetabongrips]

That's exactly what their saying, so get in line. And I'm willing to bet you're the only one that thinks he was acting like a obnoxious punk kid. You need to take the biggest bong rip you can possibly inhale and take another look at you're post here. I myself will enjoy my new vaporizer, keep hacking away at you're bong! :thumbsup:


You can't ignore the crux of my point and think you're still making a point of your own.

I'm almost positive the security guard would say he was acting like an obnxious punk kid, regardless of how this guy actually was acting...so I'm willing to bet you make really lousy bets.

[HighPopalorum]

The situation is best described as a freedom of speech issue (even tho, as mentioned, it in no way violates the 1st Amendment)...it is not an MMJ issue.

Don't you know? On this board everything is a medical marijuana issue and everything is a violation of our Constitutional rights! What a coincidence.

[Justabloke]

You can't ignore the crux of my point and think you're still making a point of your own.

I'm almost positive the security guard would say he was acting like an obnxious punk kid, regardless of how this guy actually was acting...so I'm willing to bet you make really lousy bets.

Wow whats up with this bad karma??? We souldn't be fighting ourselvs...we should be fighting "them!"

By "them" I mean anyone who wants to get in the way of "The People" OR "The Patients." Either way; The AM was wrong and the cops were wrong and Jake needs to get paid because of it! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

j

[TurboALLWD]

You can't ignore the crux of my point and think you're still making a point of your own.

I'm almost positive the security guard would say he was acting like an obnxious punk kid, regardless of how this guy actually was acting...so I'm willing to bet you make really lousy bets.

Ofcourse he would, it sounds like the rent a cop was a real piece of shit, I realy don't want to get into an arguement with you on this but its obvious you're butt hurt over them bringing up mmj. As you said, it has nothing to do with this, so quit crying about it. But yeah, what a great point you made!! Unlike you, I wouldn't take my shirt off just because someone told me to, good to know we have patients that obey every command made of them. :D

[TurboALLWD]

Don't you know? On this board everything is a medical marijuana issue and everything is a violation of our Constitutional rights! What a coincidence.

I'm really sorry 99% percent of the mmj community disagrees with you HighPopalorum, maybe'd you have better luck on some other type of forum, but its obvious you're views are way off from the communities. Keep trying to piss people off on here, I hope it makes ya feel better or something. I know that's you're goal here as you've said it in previous posts. Love to point those out to you if you want to deny you're intentions here. Have a nice day. :D

[Reenster]

Vega, I guess we will agree to disagree on this. I love lively politcal debate. I see this as a first amendment situation. Lucky for us video tape is everywhere and cameras will show that Jake was just shopping, detained by security and did nothing but wear a Yes we Cannibis tee shirt.
The video should be clear.

I guess we will wait and see if the attorney I contacted sees this as a plausible case and how it will play out.

Film at 11 and lets hope the national guard don't show up :)

Justabloke you got mail :jointsmile:

[Justabloke]

it kinda looks like the kid started acting like an obnoxious punk when approached

Here's the prollem I see with that. Jake wasn't busted for being a "obnoxious punk." He was busted for wearing a pro-pot t-shirt. If they stopped him for being loud it would be a differnt story. They stopped him and tryed to sequester his 1st Amendment right to Free Speach because they don't morally agree with his stance.

That is illegale and UNAMERICAN!

I don't like Rush Limbaugh and the crap he spews but I will fight to the death of me to protect his RIGHT to say it. This is no different.

Viva La Resistance,
j

[Justabloke]

Vega, I guess we will agree to disagree on this. I love lively politcal debate. I see this as a first amendment situation. Lucky for us video tape is everywhere and cameras will show that Jake was just shopping, detained by security and did nothing but wear a Yes we Cannibis tee shirt.
The video should be clear.

I guess we will wait and see if the attorney I contacted sees this as a plausible case and how it will play out.

Film at 11 and lets hope the national guard don't show up :)

Justabloke you got mail :jointsmile:

Thanks doll so do you! :)

Another thought I had would be to contact Sen. Carrol's office. She seemed to be one of the only friends we had during 1284. The AM needs to know it can't keep doing business like this.

I, personally, would like to see a picket of the mall (and I'd be the first one there)! But, that's just my agenda which doesn't hold a light to Matt and his fight right now.

Keep us up-to-date as the lawyer allows. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

j

[Justabloke]

Thanks doll so do you! :)

Another thought I had would be to contact Sen. Carrol's office. She seemed to be one of the only friends we had during 1284. The AM needs to know it can't keep doing business like this.

I, personally, would like to see a picket of the mall (and I'd be the first one there)! But, that's just my agenda which doesn't hold a light to Matt and his fight right now.

Keep us up-to-date as the lawyer allows. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

j

I'm sorry Jake and mom...I dunno what (if at all) I was thinkin'

j

[Reenster]

I just got off the phone with what I assume is a PR person for the mall. He was pleasant, he listened and e basically said they are investigating the situation. We spoke briefly about their "code of conduct" in regards to clothing. It is vague at best, and we agreed it will be up to a few lawyer types.

I was told I should hear from the mall management in a few days after the investigation. Funny he seemed most concerned when I told him I contacted the city of Aurora. Also, the mention of a boycott was a cause for concern.

I am having my preliminary talk with an attorney this evening. Myself or Jake will keep in touch.

[vegetabongrips]

Here's the prollem I see with that. Jake wasn't busted for being a "obnoxious punk." He was busted for wearing a pro-pot t-shirt. If they stopped him for being loud it would be a differnt story. They stopped him and tryed to sequester his 1st Amendment right to Free Speach because they don't morally agree with his stance.

That is illegale and UNAMERICAN!

I don't like Rush Limbaugh and the crap he spews but I will fight to the death of me to protect his RIGHT to say it. This is no different.

Viva La Resistance,
j


I doubt it's illegal, but fully agree it's, at the least, not something to be supported. Like I'd said, I was just blown away by the idea he should get some kinda concession for being a card owner -- two very different issues.

[Justabloke]

I doubt it's illegal, but fully agree it's, at the least, not something to be supported. Like I'd said, I was just blown away by the idea he should get some kinda concession for being a card owner -- two very different issues.

It is VERY illegal! They breached his First Amendment Rights, clearly.

This isn't about MMJ or pot itself, really. This is about the fact they tryed to keep him from his First Amendment rights. It just happens to be that he is a patient; cooincidence nothing more.

It's not unlike me telling you "you must shut up because you are wrong."

Yes, your wrong but I am, by no means, going to tell you to shut up!!! You have the RIGHT to express your opinion and I would be a hypocrite if I told you you many not practice your First Amendment RIGHT to Free Speach.

j

[Justabloke]

I doubt it's illegal, but fully agree it's, at the least, not something to be supported. Like I'd said, I was just blown away by the idea he should get some kinda concession for being a card owner -- two very different issues.

Oh, and if you don't know it's ileagle then you need to study up on your Constitutional Rights both at the State and Federal Level!

Also, this isn't about "concession." I ask for no "concessions" being a patient. There are laws that I must follow as a patient. I paid my $90 briberey fee. I should be left alone. But again, this isn't about Patients or recreational users. Politically motivated clothing is covered by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

The AM is CLEARLY wrong and I hope Jake gets Millions for their fuck up! If you don't think it's against the law then ask any lawer whether or not politically oriented clothing is covered. I'm sure they will tell you yes. Part of the reason I know it is groups fighting dress codes at schools have used the same arguement.

[CovertCarpenter]

...BOYCOTT the mall... if they see their business drop, and if MANY people write them coherent letters as to WHY they're not shopping there anymore...

THAT'S a message that they can't ignore.

[throatstick]

I'm really sorry 99% percent of the mmj community disagrees with you HighPopalorum, maybe'd you have better luck on some other type of forum, but its obvious you're views are way off from the communities. Keep trying to piss people off on here, I hope it makes ya feel better or something. I know that's you're goal here as you've said it in previous posts. Love to point those out to you if you want to deny you're intentions here. Have a nice day. :D

i think a .gov forum would prob suit him better.ya know to hang with all his friends.

besides that tho i do understand the mal is private property.thats why i choose not to go there.to me malls are outdated anyways.go there to spend double/triple what you spend anywhere else on most items.the mall it's self is the rip off they charge 4 to 6k and thats for a small store front.and that was 10 years ago prices from what i recall.

sorry high pop i believe abit diffrent than most maybe even on here im sure.my thoughts are if you don't hurt anyone in a deliberate hurtful way then they should be able to do as they plz.

plus if you want to go the way of a vote and all people agree to adhere to it then thats fine too.BUT ONLY IF ALL FACTS ARE ON THE TABLE>.THE REASON AND ONLY REASON IT HAS NOT BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IS BECAUSE OF OUR GOV AND BIG CORPS LYING TO DEFRAUD THE PEOPLE. THIS GOES BACK TO MY RULE I KEEP AND LIVE BY.THAT IS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE HAVE NOT STARTED TO ACCEPT IT UNTIL NOW.THANKS TO THE INTERNET TRUE KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN ABLE TO ETCH AWAY AT ALL THE FALSE HOODS THAT HAVE BEEN PERPETRATED IN THE MEDIA AND GOV.:cool:

[StoneyJake]

I'm not sure if I should be replying to this thread or the other one, but what the heck does the fact that this kid have a MMJ license have to do with anything else in that story at all?

It's a lousy situation, and I don't support the first contact (assuming it was entirely just cuz of the kid's t-shirt)...but even considering the horrible lack of details I'm working with, it kinda looks like the kid started acting like an obnoxious punk when approached, and that's always only going to escalate things...which is what happened. I'm not surprised.

What I am, tho, is offended by the line, "Apparently being a card caring patient makes no difference to the Aurora police." It shouldn't make any difference to the Aurora police in this matter. Can you imagine how egregious it would be if they allowed someone to wear that shirt simply on the ba pro-pot shirts for you. I'd be first in line to boycott the mall in that case.


Im not a kid. Im a 28 year old man... I did not act "like an obnoxious punk when approached". I acted like a grown man that is being told to take off my shirt in the middle of a mall... I realize you dont fully understand what happened. I tried to give a cut down version of the event on the other thread regarding this but I could fill up a entire page with a play by play of the entire event. I didnt think anyone would read that lol

I was shopping at the mall and was stopped shortly after making my first purchase. I complied with police but I did correct an officer as to the laws in colorado a couple of times

[StoneyJake]

i think a .gov forum would prob suit him better.ya know to hang with all his friends.

besides that tho i do understand the mal is private property.thats why i choose not to go there.to me malls are outdated anyways.go there to spend double/triple what you spend anywhere else on most items.the mall it's self is the rip off they charge 4 to 6k and thats for a small store front.and that was 10 years ago prices from what i recall.


Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

[lampost]

The AM is CLEARLY wrong and I hope Jake gets Millions for their fuck up!

I'm all for punishing the Aurora Mall, but let's be realistic here. Do you really think he deserves millions? I hope not. Our legal system is fucked with people getting 1Mil+ for burning themselves with coffee! Let's stop taking advantage of the system man!
That's part of the reasons your medical bills are so high...

This one isn't about money, it's about principle. At the most he should be compensated to cover a lawyer to fight this injustice...

[vegetabongrips]

It is VERY illegal! They breached his First Amendment Rights, clearly.

This isn't about MMJ or pot itself, really. This is about the fact they tryed to keep him from his First Amendment rights. It just happens to be that he is a patient; cooincidence nothing more.

It's not unlike me telling you "you must shut up because you are wrong."

Yes, your wrong but I am, by no means, going to tell you to shut up!!! You have the RIGHT to express your opinion and I would be a hypocrite if I told you you many not practice your First Amendment RIGHT to Free Speach.

j

You can tell me to shut up all you wanted. If you were a mod you could ban me from ever posting again....doesn't violate freedom of speech, and neither does this as both times it's a PRIVATE entity removing the ability to speak, not the government, which is what the first amendment applies to.

The ONLY reason why Westminster Mall was found to be in violation of the first in a similar case is because of the government presence at that mall. Without it, which Aurora mall is lacking, the mall is a private entity and can tell you to not wear whatever shirt, not hold up whatever sign, or not distribute whatever written material they please. And of course, they can also tell you to stfu.

Likewise, as a private citizen you are allowed to own and operate media, establish an official church for you and your family. As a private citizen you can tell the group of people hanging out on your lawn to get the hell off of it.

The government is forbid from all of these due to the first amendment. Private citizens and corporations, however, are NOT.

[vegetabongrips]

Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

Those were NOT, NOT the only factors which made Westminster Mall determined to be a public entity. There were a SLEW of reasons, those two happen to be the ONLY two reasons in common.

To be completely honest, it's arguable either way. It is definitely not clear cut in either direction, but I'd side with "if it only has 2 out of the 10 reasons, it probably isn't going to meet the same standard." There have been malls across the nation which, including police departments, were found to be private entities. Granted, we're talking about a state supreme court case, but we're also talking about it in reference to a federal right.

[vegetabongrips]

Im not a kid. Im a 28 year old man... I did not act "like an obnoxious punk when approached". I acted like a grown man that is being told to take off my shirt in the middle of a mall... I realize you dont fully understand what happened. I tried to give a cut down version of the event on the other thread regarding this but I could fill up a entire page with a play by play of the entire event. I didnt think anyone would read that lol

I was shopping at the mall and was stopped shortly after making my first purchase. I complied with police but I did correct an officer as to the laws in colorado a couple of times

Tell your mom to stop telling people you get all loud and feisty usually when confronted ;)

[throatstick]

Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

i c i did not know that i know some are not tho.

[Reenster]

Tell your mom to stop telling people you get all loud and feisty usually when confronted ;)

I actually said he got loud, I do not recall using the word feisty. Not sure if I ever have have used the word feisty. I also said I would be hard pressed to react much differently. I would get loud and maybe even be a bit feisty for a middle aged woman woman if I was detained by mall security because of a shirt.

You are entitled to your opinion. Its time for the attorneys to figure out if this is a first amendment case.Time to wait and see. Either way my guess is that the mall will lose some business and hopefully Spencer's Gifts will consider moving out since you can buy that hat with a big marijuana leaf on it at Spencer's but don't wear it out of the store.

[throatstick]

this is just me but if i went to a place to spend money and someone that works at or guards that place. came to me and said turn your shirt inside out i'd look at em and say.i'll do ya 1 better let me go return the stuff i bought and im going to leave and i won't be back simple. all the talk about private or public it don't matter to me why would i want to spend money in a place that allows police,guards to come harass me as they plz.over a shirt,when they allow gang bangers to come and hang out as they plz with their asses hanging out and hitting on every woman they see.thats ok but you as a customer better not walk in with a leaf on your shirt.fuck that and fuck them.....

[throatstick]

I actually said he got loud, I do not recall using the word feisty. Not sure if I ever have have used the word feisty. I also said I would be hard pressed to react much differently. I would get loud and maybe even be a bit feisty for a middle aged woman woman if I was detained by mall security because of a shirt.

You are entitled to your opinion. Its time for the attorneys to figure out if this is a first amendment case.Time to wait and see. Either way my guess is that the mall will lose some business and hopefully Spencer's Gifts will consider moving out since you can buy that hat with a big marijuana leaf on it at Spencer's but don't wear it out of the store.

i'd be quite but i'd just tell em to go get fucked and they won't ever have to worry about me coming to spend money ever again.then i'd tell them good luck with all the gangbanger wannabe bad asses they let loose to do as they plz in the mall..last i ck'd malls across the states are going under cause they allow trash to come do as they plz then do shit like this to people that are legit....

[telephone]

...hopefully Spencer's Gifts will consider moving out since you can buy that hat with a big marijuana leaf on it at Spencer's but don't wear it out of the store.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but what if I bought a strap on dildo at Spencers?

Could I then wear it around the mall without the mall cops all getting pissed?

Hey, I'm just trying to bring some levity to all this. I wish you and your son the best.:jointsmile:

[throatstick]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but what if I bought a strap on dildo at Spencers?

Could I then wear it around the mall without the mall cops all getting pissed?

Hey, I'm just trying to bring some levity to all this. I wish you and your son the best.:jointsmile:

last time i check'd you can't fuck someone with a pot leaf shirt.......:jointsmile:

[Justabloke]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but what if I bought a strap on dildo at Spencers?

Could I then wear it around the mall without the mall cops all getting pissed?

Hey, I'm just trying to bring some levity to all this. I wish you and your son the best.:jointsmile:

ROFL...Depends of yer a guy or a girl. :jointsmile::D

[Justabloke]

I'm all for punishing the Aurora Mall, but let's be realistic here. Do you really think he deserves millions? I hope not. Our legal system is fucked with people getting 1Mil+ for burning themselves with coffee! Let's stop taking advantage of the system man!
That's part of the reasons your medical bills are so high...

This one isn't about money, it's about principle. At the most he should be compensated to cover a lawyer to fight this injustice...

Hey Lampy,

Yes, I whole heartedly think he should get well into the 7 digit figure! What are our Civil rights worth these days? If we devalue them...we, well, devalue them.

Thats just from the mall. I think he should, also, sue the city too! But that's imho.

j

[StoneyJake]

Those were NOT, NOT the only factors which made Westminster Mall determined to be a public entity. There were a SLEW of reasons, those two happen to be the ONLY two reasons in common.

To be completely honest, it's arguable either way. It is definitely not clear cut in either direction, but I'd side with "if it only has 2 out of the 10 reasons, it probably isn't going to meet the same standard." There have been malls across the nation which, including police departments, were found to be private entities. Granted, we're talking about a state supreme court case, but we're also talking about it in reference to a federal right.

"Colorado: A city's financial support of a shopping mall, including its operation of a police substation inside the mall, combined with the range of activities permitted in the mall, made it a latter-day public forum sufficient to trigger the Colorado Constitution's free-speech clause, according to the state's highest court. This clause prevented the owners of the mall from excluding citizens involved in nonviolent political speech. (Bock v. Westminster Mall Co.)"

So like family night for instance?(the event going on the day I was there) or a range of other public events held at the aurora town center?

[StoneyJake]

I think the police on sight were just as much to blame as the mall employees or more so even because they should know the law and not treat upstanding citizens that way. Im not sure what I deserve but then again I dont know what your civil rights go for nowwa days...

[Justabloke]

Exactly my point Jake! I'm guessing it's prolly a 6 fig settlement but it's just that a guess. Don't you hate having to wait to 1p tomorrow??

j

[throatstick]

I think the police on sight were just as much to blame as the mall employees or more so even because they should know the law and not treat upstanding citizens that way. Im not sure what I deserve but then again I dont know what your civil rights go for nowwa days...

i don't trust any leo they all"99.99%"have some kindda chip on their shoulder.fuck the law it really comes down to what they believe and what they approve of.the way they think is i don't like em they talked back to me whatever the case i'll just take em to jail and let the judge sort it out.alot of cases that make it to court are dropped because of this. cause alot of times cops overstep their bounds.but who cares right? i mean at the very least they get to act big and tough and lock you up or if it's something they really know could backfire on them they will atleast fuck with ya a bit just to do it then let ya go.

what i think is more than you winning alot of money i think a better outcome would be the cops should be punished for overstepping their bounds for no reason.that is why these cops still get away with shit cause nothing ever happens to them.most of the time the person gets some money and the cop goes right back to fucking with other people.

[Justabloke]

what i think is more than you winning alot of money i think a better outcome would be the cops should be punished for overstepping their bounds for no reason.that is why these cops still get away with shit cause nothing ever happens to them.most of the time the person gets some money and the cop goes right back to fucking with other people.

Nothing and I do mean nothing will happen to the cops involved. The system is purposly made that way so they have NO accountability what so ever. They are government and government never has to account for anything it does wrong. Well, until "The People" get tired of it, stand up, and revolt.

But both you and I know that's not likely to happen anytime soon.



j

[throatstick]

Nothing and I do mean nothing will happen to the cops involved. The system is purposly made that way so they have NO accountability what so ever. They are government and government never has to account for anything it does wrong. Well, until "The People" get tired of it, stand up, and revolt.

But both you and I know that's not likely to happen anytime soon.



j

notice the key word was "think".

a revolt my be closer than you think....i think it will be forced upon us to do so to.

[Justabloke]

notice the key word was "think".

a revolt my be closer than you think....i think it will be forced upon us to do so to.

Wow...

Deep, ballsey, and honest....I like!

I just think America is too splintered. No one can agree on anything and most people who don't agree with people think the people they don't agree with should be sequesterd.

Agree with me or I'm gonna call out the National Guard on you! LOL

j

[throatstick]

Wow...

Deep, ballsey, and honest....I like!

I just think America is too splintered. No one can agree on anything and most people who don't agree with people think the people they don't agree with should be sequesterd.

Agree with me or I'm gonna call out the National Guard on you! LOL

j

yup pretty much..

but on a much bigger global scale than that not just mmj...

[Reenster]

Well, I was not the one detained and inconvenienced but for me it's not about the dollars. Perhaps financial payment could be part of recourse for a violation of rights but seriously not huge sums. Yes, there was some embarrassment and definitely some inconvenience but what is more important is that this practice is stopped.

The next time I am going into the Aurora Mall will be to pass out information so that we can vote down the dispensary ban in November. Maybe they will allow some petitioning and accumulation of signatures to vote down the dispensary ban.

Off to work

[Adamkadmon]

Wow....went from no replies to 45....don't have time to read atm, I will this evening.

[HighPopalorum]

The AM is CLEARLY wrong and I hope Jake gets Millions for their fuck up!

Anyone else believe Jake should get millions of dollars as a result of this experience?

[Reenster]

Love my son but....lets get real it's not a huge law suit. I would be happy if NO ONE ELSE HAD TO GO THRU THIS!!!!

[Justabloke]

Well, I was not the one detained and inconvenienced but for me it's not about the dollars. Perhaps financial payment could be part of recourse for a violation of rights but seriously not huge sums. Yes, there was some embarrassment and definitely some inconvenience but what is more important is that this practice is stopped.

The next time I am going into the Aurora Mall will be to pass out information so that we can vote down the dispensary ban in November. Maybe they will allow some petitioning and accumulation of signatures to vote down the dispensary ban.

Off to work

Last time something like this happened to me, I was arrested. LOL For invading my Civil Rights, I got a whopping $7500. Sharing it 2/3s to me and 1/3 to the lawyer.

I NEVER wanna see anyone's rights go and to teach these people you have to take their money in very LARGE quantities! :thumbsup: It is then and only then they start to think..."oh maybe that was wrong!" (ya think?!)

This is one in a longgggggggg line of "Law Enforcement" screwups.

Honestly, I believe we all should take a very strong stance against abuse of power just like this.

In solidarity:jointsmile:
Bloke

[Justabloke]

Does anyone agree?

[HighPopalorum]

Does anyone agree?

No. I think we should take a very weak and ineffective stance on civil rights. :cool: Lol.

[Justabloke]

No. I think we should take a very weak and ineffective stance on civil rights. :cool: Lol.

LOL Sarcasm noted and apperciated! :thumbsup:

[Adamkadmon]

Threadjackers, all of you, lol. This thread was SUPPOSED to be about boycotting the mall, not a possible lawsuit. None of us has any part in that, that's between Jake, his lawyers, the mall, and the police involved. :jointsmile: I simply am voicing my opinion that I will be boycotting the mall ACTIVELY (by spreading the word, not by just not shopping there, until a public apology is issued) and am calling on others to join me. :thumbsup:

[lampost]

I guess the lawsuit is more interesting.

I bet there's not too many on here who shop at that shithole to begin with. I never did and now I'll make sure I never do..

[TheReleafCenter]

It got picked up by the Westword, as well.

Wearing "Yes We Cannabis" T-shirt leads to 1-year ban from Aurora mall - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/05/wearing_yes_we_cannabis_t-shir.php#more)

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

I remember back in the 80's (when I was a teenager) it was popular to wear beer t-shirts, like Corona, Bud Light, etc... All those teenagers wearing those t-shirts were promoting illegal activity too (underage drinking). I wonder if the Aurora mall & PD would of gotten their panties in a bunch over that....

[lampost]

That is badass! I don't know if it'd be better to see Aurora cave or have to pay out a shitload of money! LMAO!!

>>>"The shirt contained no profanity, nudity, or references to other more-dangerous drugs, such as Coors."<<<

LMAO!!

[Reenster]

Jake interviewed with Fox31 and CBS news today. Not sure when the CBS story will broadcast but tonight at 5PM on Fox 31.

There might be more information coming regarding a "march" on the mall.

You are sure right about it being a shithole, even after the remodel. I go there a few times a year mostly just hit sears for tires or car battery. This will not do anything for their business.

[copobo]

Aurora really needs some activism. This is awesome.

[Justabloke]

Threadjackers, all of you, lol. This thread was SUPPOSED to be about boycotting the mall, not a possible lawsuit. None of us has any part in that, that's between Jake, his lawyers, the mall, and the police involved. :jointsmile: I simply am voicing my opinion that I will be boycotting the mall ACTIVELY (by spreading the word, not by just not shopping there, until a public apology is issued) and am calling on others to join me. :thumbsup:

Yes, I totally agree Adam! I think we ALL should activly boycott the mall and spread the word to everyone we know and some we don't. I'm all about standing up and voicing my opinion when it comes to me and mine getting screwed! (as if you hadn't noticed lol).

But if anyone doubts my intentions...

BOYCOTT THE AURORA MALL!!!

j

[Adamkadmon]

I guess the lawsuit is more interesting.

I bet there's not too many on here who shop at that shithole to begin with. I never did and now I'll make sure I never do..

LMAO, that's why I said actively, I don't live near enough to shop there even if I wanted to. But it won't stop me from letting everyone I know who may live closer what they think of personal freedoms.
:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[Reenster]

:thumbsup:I have not heard anything solid but there are efforts being made to organize a march with appropriate attire(or inappropriate as the case may be :thumbs-up:). As soon as there is a solid time and day we will let it be known.

The mall received local tax incentives to renovate after the shootings a few years ago. I understand what they are attempting to do but they should not be stepping on the rights of one of the few people that are actually willing to spend money there.

If they are planning to continue their current policy, the very least they should do is not allow minors into the import store or Spencer's gifts. If they are worried about the children why would they allow them to purchase marijuana logo-ed clothing and paraphernalia. I figure those stores would oppose that policy and not renew their leases. If they have many more vacancies the mall will fail.

[COzigzag]

If they are planning to continue their current policy, the very least they should do is not allow minors into the import store or Spencer's gifts.

If the mall is SO concerned about their family-friendly image, they shouldn't allow these types of stores in their mall. There is no law that says a child can't go into those mall stores and there is no guard posted to keep them out. As a child, Spencer's was one of my favorite mall stores. It's ridiculous.

[vegetabongrips]

The whole lack of private messages here is still wacky to me, but I guess it's only fair I eat crow publicly. Reenster and Jake, I would like to apologize to you both. The original story was lacking in details, but it was my responsibility to ask for clarification, not to jump to conclusions. I shouldn't have done that and I'm very sorry I did (although I do still think it's questionable whether this is a first amendment issue, it's definitely obvious Jake wasn't being a twat and I was very, very wrong for needlessly assuming as much).

[Adamkadmon]

The whole lack of private messages here is still wacky to me, but I guess it's only fair I eat crow publicly. Reenster and Jake, I would like to apologize to you both. The original story was lacking in details, but it was my responsibility to ask for clarification, not to jump to conclusions. I shouldn't have done that and I'm very sorry I did (although I do still think it's questionable whether this is a first amendment issue, it's definitely obvious Jake wasn't being a twat and I was very, very wrong for needlessly assuming as much).

Very big of you! /applaud.

[TheReleafCenter]

SAFER just sent me this:


Mall Cops Out of Control!

Last Saturday, 28-year-old Jake Gailey was shopping with his girlfriend in an Aurora (CO) mall when security guards stopped and harassed him because he was wearing a "Yes We Cannabis" T-shirt. The mall cops told Jake he had to remove the shirt, turn it inside-out, or exit the mall because it's reference to marijuana legalization was offensive. When Jake expressed his opinion that he ought to be allowed to wear the shirt he was cited for trespassing and banned from the mall for one year.

Click HERE or visit Wearing "Yes We Cannabis" T-shirt leads to 1-year ban from Aurora mall - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://www.tinyurl.com/2uu2jv6) to read the entire story on the Westword blog.

To protest this ridiculous action by the Town Center at Aurora, SAFER is organizing a march inside the mall in which supporters will all be wearing "Cannabis/Can o' Beer" SAFER T-shirts.

The details of the event are below, so please join and/or help us by coming out and spreading the word. If you come, please wear a "Cannabis/Can o' Beer" SAFER T-shirt -- we will also have some shirts available for people to borrow.

If you are not in Colorado or cannot make it, please visit the mall owners' feedback form at Simon Property Group (http://tinyurl.com/pc3hb) and send them a stern -- yet courteous -- message that this type of behavior is unacceptable.

WHAT: News conference and march inside the mall

WHEN: TOMORROW, Saturday, May 29th @ 3:45 p.m.

WHERE: Town Center at Aurora (off of I-225 and E. Alameda Ave.), meet in front of the east entrance off of S. Sable Blvd. and E. Centrepoint Dr

[Reenster]

Thanks ReLeaf I just got the email and was going to post this as well.

Also, Vega, I appreciate your candor. I am as unsure if this is a first amendment issue, but my logic tells me that if it is not it should be. At the very least he was profiled by the mall security. I know I have worn my Ganja Gourmet shirt in that mall. I never was approached my security. I think they are target younger people as potential trouble makers by they was they dress or look. I feel they did not realize that Jake was an adult when they first approached him about his shirt. It would have been difficult to back down after back up was called.

[Adamkadmon]

I have to say I am very happy with with all the support that has been given to Jake! If anyone doubts the fact of whether or not this is a first amendment issue just look to the lawyers who acted so quickly on this, I see no doubt there. It IS a Colorado MMJ issue because it affects one of our brothers and you could be next. If we don't all stand together we shall surely fall apart.

I'm all for Jake getting a few $$ from them. It saddens me to see that they could not bring themselves to apologize, which will earn them my ongoing boycott of the mall regardless of any settlement. Yes money makes people take notice, which is too bad. But I don't think anything will have changed in the hearts and minds of those officers and mall employee's involved, which will require a constant reminder to the people that there are individuals placed in a state of authority over them that disregard the will and true authority of said people.

[StoneyJake]

thanks vegetabongrips.
Now they are trying to make false claims to cover themselves. Makes them look even more guilty to a lot of people.
On the plus side I have been getting calls from people I havent heard from in years. My old boss from when I was 19 got a hold of me even lol.
Overall people have been very supportive.
Thanks everyone

[vegetabongrips]

False claims like what?

[StoneyJake]

That I was "yelling profanities" and acting "belligerent". I take offense to that.

Also in the first statement to the post they defend their stand on my shirt. Then in another statement they said that it had nothing to do with the shirt.

[Reenster]

I found a list of simon properties compiled by the tea bag party, apparently they too take issue in some mall policies.

Name of Mall City % owned by Simon Properties

Anchorage 5th Avenue Mall Anchorage, AK ??
Factory Stores of America Boaz Boaz, AL 100%
McCain Mall North Little Rock, AR 100%
Arizona Mills Tempe, AZ 25%
Brea Mall ® Brea, CA 100%
Camarillo Premium Outlets® Camarillo, CA ??
Coddingtown Mall Santa Rosa, CA 50%
Del Amo Fashion Center Torrance, CA 25%
Desert Hills Premium Outlets Cabazon, CA 100%
Fashion Valley San Diego, CA 50%
Folsom Premium Outlets Folsom, CA 100%
Gilroy Premium Outlets Gilroy, CA 100%
Great Mall Milpitas, CA 25%
Hilltop Mall Richmond, CA 25%
Laguna Hills Mall Laguna Hills, CA ??
Las Americas Premium Outlets San Diego, CA 100%
Napa Premium Outlets Napa, CA 100%
Ontario Mills I Ontario, CA 25%
Petaluma Village Premium Outlets Petaluma, CA 100%
Santa Rosa Plaza ® Santa Rosa, CA 100%
Stanford Shopping Center Palo Alto, CA 100%
Stoneridge Shopping Center Pleasanton, CA 25%
The Block at Orange Orange, CA 25%
The Shops at Mission Viejo Mission Viejo, CA 100%
Vacaville Premium Outlets Vacaville, CA 100%
Westminster Mall ® Westminster, CA 100%
Colorado Mills Lakewood, CO 19%
Denver West Village Lakewood, CO 19%
Mesa Mall Grand Junction, CO 50%
Town Center at Aurora Aurora, CO 100%
Clinton Crossing Premium Outlets Clinton, CT 100%
Crystal Mall Waterford, CT 75%
The Plaza at Buckland Hills Manchester, CT 35%
Dover Mall Dover, DE 34%
Aventura Mall North Miami Beach, FL 33%
Boynton Beach Mall Boynton Beach, FL 100%
Coconut Point ® Estero, FL 50%
Coral Square Coral Springs, FL 97%
Cordova Mall Pensacola, FL 100%
Crystal River Mall Crystal River, FL 100%
Dadeland Mall Miami, FL 50%
DeSoto Square Bradenton, FL 100%
Downtown at the Gardens Palm Beach Gardens, FL ??
Edison Mall Fort Myers, FL 100%
Factory Stores of America - Graceville Graceville, FL 100%
Gaitway Plaza Ocala, FL 23%
Gulf View Square Port Richey, FL 100%
Highland Lakes Center Orlando, FL 100%
Indian River Commons Vero Beach, FL 50%
Indian River Mall Vero Beach, FL 50%
Lake Square Mall Leesburg, FL 50%
Melbourne Square Melbourne, FL 100%
Miami International Mall Miami, FL 48%
Orange Park Mall Orange Park, FL 100%
Orlando Premium Outlets Orlando, FL 100%
Paddock Mall Ocala, FL 100%
Pier Park Panama City Beach, FL 100%
Port Charlotte Town Center Port Charlotte, FL 80%
Royal Eagle Plaza Coral Springs -- Ft Lauderdale, FL 35%
Sawgrass Mills Sunrise, FL 50%
Seminole Towne Center Sanford, FL 45%
St. Augustine Premium Outlets St Augustine, FL 100%
St. Johns Town Center Jacksonville, FL 50%
Terrace at The Florida Mall Orlando, FL 100%
The Avenues Jacksonville, FL 25%
The Colonnade at Sawgrass Sunrise, FL 50%
The Falls Miami, FL 25%
The Florida Mall® Orlando, FL 50%
The Galleria at Ft. Lauderdale Ft Lauderdale, FL ??
The Shops at Sunset Place South Miami, FL 38%
Town Center at Boca Raton ® Boca Raton, FL 100%
Treasure Coast Square Jensen Beach, FL 100%
Tyrone Square Mall ® St Petersburg, FL 100%
University Mall (FL) Pensacola, FL 100%
Waterford Lakes Town Center Orlando, FL 100%
West Town Corners Altamonte Springs, FL 23%
Westland Park Plaza Orange Park near Jacksonville, FL 23%
Discover Mills Lawrenceville, GA 25%
Gwinnett Place Duluth, GA 50%
Lenox Square ® Atlanta, GA 100%
Mall of Georgia ® Buford, GA 100%
Mall of Georgia Crossing, The Buford , GA 100%
North Georgia Premium Outlets Dawsonville, GA 100%
Northlake Mall ® Atlanta, GA 100%
Phipps Plaza Atlanta, GA 100%
Town Center at Cobb Kennesaw, GA 75%
Waikele Premium Outlets Waipahu, HI 100%
Factory Stores of America - Story City Story City, IA 100%
Lindale Mall Cedar Rapids, IA 50%
NorthPark Mall Davenport, IA 50%
Southern Hills Mall Sioux City, IA 50%
SouthRidge Mall (IA) Des Moines, IA 50%
Bloomingdale Court Bloomingdale, IL 100%
Chicago Premium Outlets Aurora, IL 100%
Countryside Plaza Countryside Chicago, IL 100%
Crystal Court Crystal Lake (Chicago), IL 35%
Forest Plaza Rockford, IL 100%
Gurnee Mills Gurnee, IL 50%
Lake Plaza Waukegan, IL 100%
Lake View Plaza Orland Park near Chicago, IL 100%
Lincoln Crossing OFallon near St. Louis, IL 100%
Lincolnwood Town Center Lincolnwood, IL 100%
Matteson Plaza Matteson near Chicago, IL 100%
North Ridge Plaza Joliet near Chicago, IL 100%
Northfield Square Bourbonnais, IL 32%
Northwoods Mall Peoria, IL 100%
Orland Square Orland Park, IL 100%
River Oaks Center Calumet City, IL 100%
SouthPark Mall - IL Moline, IL 50%
White Oaks Mall Springfield, IL 81%
White Oaks Plaza Springfield, IL 100%
Willow Knolls Court Peoria, IL 35%
Brightwood Plaza Indianapolis, IN 100%
Castleton Square Indianapolis, IN 100%
Circle Centre Indianapolis, IN 15%
Clay Terrace Carmel, IN 50%
College Mall Bloomington, IN 100%
Eastland Convenience Center Evansville, IN 50%
Eastland Mall Evansville, IN 50%
Edinburgh Premium Outlets Edinburgh, IN 100%
Greenwood Park Mall Greenwood, IN 100%
Greenwood Plus Greenwood, IN 100%
Hamilton Town Center Noblesville, IN 50%
Keystone Shoppes Indianapolis, IN 100%
Lighthouse Place Premium Outlets Michigan City, IN 100%
Markland Mall Kokomo, IN 100%
Markland Plaza Kokomo, IN 100%
Muncie Mall Muncie, IN 100%
Muncie Towne Plaza Muncie, IN 100%
New Castle Plaza New Castle, IN 100%
Northwood Plaza Ft Wayne, IN 100%
Teal Plaza Lafayette, IN 100%
The Fashion Mall at Keystone Indianapolis, IN 100%
Tippecanoe Mall Lafayette, IN 100%
Tippecanoe Plaza Lafayette, IN 100%
University Center Mishawaka, IN 60%
University Park Mall Mishawaka, IN 60%
Village Park Plaza Carmel, IN 35%
Washington Plaza Indianapolis, IN 100%
Washington Square Indianapolis, IN 100%
Towne East Square Wichita, KS 100%
Towne West Square Wichita, KS 100%
West Ridge Mall Topeka, KS 100%
West Ridge Plaza Topeka, KS 100%
Factory Stores Georgetown Georgetown, KY 100%
Park Plaza Hopkinsville, KY 100%
Prien Lake Mall Lake Charles, LA 100%
The Esplanade Kenner, LA 50%
Arsenal Mall ® Watertown, MA 100%
Atrium Mall Chestnut Hill, MA 49%
Auburn Mall Auburn, MA 49%
Burlington Mall ® Burlington, MA 100%
Cape Cod Mall Hyannis, MA 49%
Copley Place Boston, MA 98%
Emerald Square North Attleboro, MA 49%
Greendale Mall ® Worcester, MA 49%
Liberty Tree Mall Danvers, MA 49%
Northshore Mall Peabody, MA 49%
Solomon Pond Mall Marlborough, MA 49%
South Shore Plaza ® Braintree, MA 100%
Square One Mall Saugus, MA 49%
The Mall at Chestnut Hill Chestnut Hill, MA 47%
Wrentham Village Premium Outlets Wrentham, MA 100%
Arundel Mills Hanover, MD 30%
Arundel Mills Marketplace Hanover, MD 30%
Bowie Town Center Bowie, MD 100%
Lakeforest Mall Gaithersburg, MD 25%
Marley Station Glen Burnie, MD 25%
St. Charles Towne Center Waldorf, MD 100%
St. Charles Towne Plaza Waldorf, MD 100%
Bangor Mall Bangor, ME 67%
Kittery Premium Outlets Kittery, ME 100%
Briarwood Mall Ann Arbor, MI 25%
Albertville Premium Outlets Albertville, MN 100%
Maplewood Mall ® Saint Paul, MN 100%
Miller Hill Mall Duluth, MN 100%
Southdale Center Edina, MN 50%
Battlefield Mall Springfield, MO 100%
Factory Merchants Branson Branson, MO 100%
Factory Stores America Lebanon Lebanon, MO 100%
Independence Center ® Independence, MO 100%
Osage Beach Premium Outlets Osage Beach, MO 100%
Regency Plaza St Charles , MO 100%
St. Louis Mills Hazelwood, MO 25%
The Shoppes at Branson Meadows Branson, MO 100%
Northpark Mall (MS) Ridgeland, MS 50%
Ridgewood Court Jackson, MS 35%
Carolina Premium Outlets Smithfield, NC 100%
Concord Marketplace Concord, NC 50%
Concord Mills Concord, NC 30%
Dare Centre Kill Devil Hills, NC 100%
MacGregor Village Cary, NC 100%
North Ridge Shopping Center Raleigh, NC 100%
SouthPark Charlotte, NC 100%
Crossroads Mall Omaha, NE 100%
Factory Stores of America - Nebraska City Nebraska City, NE 100%
Mall of New Hampshire Manchester, NH 49%
Pheasant Lane Mall Nashua, NH 100%
The Mall at Rockingham Park Salem, NH 25%
Brunswick Square East Brunswick, NJ 100%
Hamilton Mall Mays Landing, NJ ??
Jackson Premium Outlets Jackson, NJ 100%
Jersey Shore Premium Outlets® Tinton Falls, NJ 100%
Liberty Village Premium Outlets Flemington, NJ 100%
Livingston Mall ® Livingston, NJ 100%
Menlo Park Mall Edison, NJ 100%
Newport Centre Jersey City, NJ ??
Newport Crossing Jersey City , NJ 50%
Newport Plaza Jersey City , NJ 58%
Ocean County Mall ® Toms River, NJ 100%
Quaker Bridge Mall Lawrenceville, NJ 38%
Rockaway Convenience Center Rockaway, NJ 100%
Rockaway Town Plaza Rockaway, NJ 100%
Rockaway Townsquare ® Rockaway, NJ 100%
The Shops at Riverside Hackensack, NJ 50%
Cottonwood Mall Albuquerque, NM 100%
Las Vegas Outlet Center Las Vegas, NV 100%
Las Vegas Premium Outlets Las Vegas, NV 100%
Meadowood Mall Reno, NV 25%
The Forum Shops at Caesars Las Vegas, NV 100%
Chautauqua Mall Lakewood, NY 100%
Cobblestone Court Victor Rochester, NY 35%
Jefferson Valley Mall Yorktown Heights, NY 100%
Mall at The Source Westbury, NY 26%
Nanuet Mall ® Nanuet, NY 100%
Roosevelt Field ® Garden City, NY 100%
Smith Haven Mall Lake Grove, NY 25%
The Galleria at White Plains White Plains, NY 50%
The Westchester White Plains, NY 40%
Walt Whitman Mall ® Huntington Station, NY 100%
Waterloo Premium Outlets Waterloo, NY 100%
Woodbury Common Premium Outlets Central Valley, NY 100%
Aurora Farms Premium Outlets Aurora, OH 100%
Great Lakes Mall Mentor, OH 100%
Great Lakes Plaza Mentor near Cleveland, OH 100%
Lima Center Lima, OH 100%
Lima Mall Lima, OH 100%
Richmond Town Square Richmond Heights, OH 100%
Southern Park Mall Youngstown, OH 100%
Summit Mall Akron, OH 100%
The Mall at Tuttle Crossing Dublin, OH 25%
Upper Valley Mall Springfield, OH 100%
Eastland Plaza Tulsa, OK 100%
Penn Square Mall ® Oklahoma City, OK 95%
Woodland Hills Mall ® Tulsa, OK 95%
Columbia Gorge Premium Outlets Troutdale, OR 100%
Bond Shopping Center Upper Darby, PA ??
Century III Mall West Mifflin, PA 100%
DeKalb Plaza King of Prussia, PA 50%
Franklin Mills Philadelphia, PA 50%
Granite Run Mall Media, PA 50%
Henderson Square King of Prussia, PA 76%
Huntingdon Pike Huntingdon Valley, PA ??
Huntingdon Valley Shopping Center Huntingdon Valley, PA ??
King of Prussia - The Pavilion King of Prussia, PA ??
King of Prussia Mall King of Prussia, PA 12%
Lehigh Valley Mall Whitehall, PA 38%
Liberty Plaza Philadelphia, PA 50%
Lincoln Plaza Langhorne, PA 65%
Montgomery Mall North Wales, PA 54%
Oxford Valley Mall Langhorne, PA 65%
Philadelphia Premium Outlets® Limerick, PA 100%
Ross Park Mall Pittsburgh, PA 100%
South Hills Village Bethel Park, PA 100%
Springfield Mall Springfield, PA 50%
The Crossings Premium Outlets Tannersville, PA 100%
Whitehall Mall Whitehall, PA 38%
Plaza Carolina Carolina near San Juan, PR 100%
Anderson Mall Anderson, SC 100%
Charles Towne Square North Charleston, SC 100%
Haywood Mall Greenville, SC 100%
Empire East Sioux Falls, SD 50%
Empire Mall Sioux Falls, SD 50%
Rushmore Mall Rapid City, SD 50%
Crossville Outlet Center Crossville, TN 100%
Knoxville Center Knoxville, TN 100%
Knoxville Commons Knoxville, TN 100%
Oak Court Mall Memphis, TN 100%
Opry Mills Nashville, TN 25%
Raleigh Springs Mall Memphis, TN 100%
West Town Mall Knoxville, TN 50%
Wolfchase Galleria ® Memphis, TN 95%
Allen Premium Outlets Allen, TX 100%
Arboretum at Great Hills Austin, TX 100%
Barton Creek Square Austin, TX 100%
Broadway Square ® Tyler, TX 100%
Cielo Vistaâ?¢ El Paso, TX 100%
Firewheel Town Center Garland, TX 100%
Gateway Center Austin, TX 100%
Grapevine Mills Grapevine, TX 30%
Highland Mall Austin, TX 50%
Houston Premium Outlets Cypress, TX 100%
Ingram Park Mall San Antonio, TX 100%
Ingram Plaza San Antonio, TX 100%
Irving Mall Irving, TX 100%
Katy Mills Katy, TX 31%
La Plaza Mall McAllen, TX 100%
Lakeline Mall Cedar Park, TX 100%
Lakeline Plaza Cedar Park, TX 100%
Lakeline Village Cedar Park, TX ??
Longview Mall Longview, TX 100%
Midland Park Mall Midland, TX 100%
Midway Mall Sherman, TX ??
North East Mall Hurst, TX 100%
Palms Crossing McAllen, TX 100%
Richardson Square Richardson, TX 100%
Rio Grande Valley Premium Outlets Mercedes, TX 100%
Rolling Oaks Mall San Antonio, TX 100%
Round Rock Premium Outlets Round Rock, TX 100%
Shops at North East Mall, The Hurst near Fort Worth, TX 100%
Sunland Park Mall El Paso, TX 100%
The Domain Austin, TX 100%
The Galleria Houston, TX 32%
The Shops at Arbor Walk Austin, TX 100%
Valle Vista Mall Harlingen, TX 100%
Wolf Ranch Town Center Georgetown, TX 100%
Apple Blossom Mall Winchester, VA 49%
Charlottesville Fashion Square Charlottesville, VA 100%
Chesapeake Center Chesapeake Norfolk, VA 100%
Chesapeake Square Chesapeake, VA 75%
Fairfax Court Fairfax , VA 41%
Leesburg Corner Premium Outlets Leesburg, VA 100%
Martinsville Plaza Martinsville, VA 100%
Potomac Mills Prince William, VA 50%
The Fashion Centre at Pentagon City Arlington, VA 43%
Valley Mall Harrisonburg, VA 50%
Virginia Center Commons Glen Allen, VA 100%
Columbia Center Kennewick, WA 100%
Factory Stores at North Bend North Bend, WA 100%
Northgate Mall Seattle, WA 100%
Seattle Premium Outlets Tulalip, WA 100%
Tacoma Mall Tacoma, WA 100%
Bay Park Square Green Bay, WI 100%
Forest Mall Fond du Lac, WI 100%
Johnson Creek Premium Outlets Johnson Creek, WI 100%
Southridge Mall (WI) Greendale, WI 50%
d a list of Simon Properties. Amazing, the tea bag party had issue with them as well. Never thought I would be in the same camp as them :) I am unsure of the accuracy of the percentages but here they are:

[StoneyJake]

Wow... To think they are pushing their agenda at all those locations...

[lampost]

thanks vegetabongrips.
Now they are trying to make false claims to cover themselves. Makes them look even more guilty to a lot of people.
On the plus side I have been getting calls from people I havent heard from in years. My old boss from when I was 19 got a hold of me even lol.
Overall people have been very supportive.
Thanks everyone

This is a huge problem!! Cops fuckin' lie to protect themselves from legal challenges! Jake is no fully aware of their games...

I was arrested once in a friends apartment for possession... my friend had just pulled a few tubes and I hadn't smoked since earlier in the day in my own apartment upstairs. Cops come in and say I'm sitting next to a smoking bong (lie... hadn't been hit for 5+ minutes) and the best part is the cop said there was no doubt I was smoking marijuana because I had a green tongue! Another lie! Marijuana doesn't even cause a green tongue (especially out of a bong where no stray plant material gets in your mouth).

It would be cheap and easy as hell to mic those coppers and solve a lot of problems. In a court of law when there's no witnesses the cop's word is almost always taken over the defendants. And we know not all cops are trustworthy... or shit they may just want to protect their job in light of a fuck-up!

Why can't we have this!? Doesn't anyone else think this could only be in the best interest of justice!?!

[StoneyJake]

This is a huge problem!! Cops fuckin' lie to protect themselves from legal challenges! Jake is no fully aware of their games...

I was arrested once in a friends apartment for possession... my friend had just pulled a few tubes and I hadn't smoked since earlier in the day in my own apartment upstairs. Cops come in and say I'm sitting next to a smoking bong (lie... hadn't been hit for 5+ minutes) and the best part is the cop said there was no doubt I was smoking marijuana because I had a green tongue! Another lie! Marijuana doesn't even cause a green tongue (especially out of a bong where no stray plant material gets in your mouth).

It would be cheap and easy as hell to mic those coppers and solve a lot of problems. In a court of law when there's no witnesses the cop's word is almost always taken over the defendants. And we know not all cops are trustworthy... or shit they may just want to protect their job in light of a fuck-up!

Why can't we have this!? Doesn't anyone else think this could only be in the best interest of justice!?!

Whats crazy is the judge believed the "green tongue" story. Thats crazy

I totally agree with the mic. How much could that really cost? couple bucks a cop I bet. It would help substantiate their stories when lawsuits come up also. If they are telling the truth of course :P

[TheAllDayToker]

I agree, I speak with many patients that are still afraid of the F'in Po-lice. Why? Because the police are still harassing MMJ patients/caregivers all the time...whether it be about possession, legality etc. The point is, the cops aren't protecting our rights, they're deciding for themselves what they want and policing that...that's the truth...

They need to be checked...hard and soon.

[vegetabongrips]

Well hopefully I'd just missed whatever was going on. I went down to the mall and didn't see anything. Went in an entrance off the food court, seemed the most eastish. That was right at 3:45. Walked around the mall some trying to find another eastern entrance and didn't, so I went back out...still nothing. There were two security guards out front who weren't there when I went in, but they seemed to just be lazing about. I left at 4

[copobo]

there were people there. we were late, got f-d by gps. just so happened to meet Jake's mom and dad on their way out, p'rolly 4:30ish. There were plenty of people in the mall with MJ shirts on. I got a sandwich at the food court, and the girl a the Chick Fillet asked me what cannabis was. kinda funny. We sat down, and one of the mall workers talked to us, and asked us what happened - why the protest, so we told him the story. nice guy.

Then, we strolled over to Spencers Gifts, bought some MJ stuff - including the high times Pot Smoker's Handbook. I didn't need a bag ;) so walked the rest of the mall with that in hand, even in-between 3 security guards and by the cops. There was no sense being there without peacefully making sure THEY saw us.

that's what it's about. when they fuck with one of us, they fuck with all of us, and we have to stick together.

[vegetabongrips]

Aw, well that's good to hear. idk how I was oblivious, maybe most folks arrived a little late. I just saw tons of red t-shirts, no mj stuff.

[Reenster]

I would guess about 40 to 50 people were there when we first walked in. Most were in Cannabis/Can o Beer shirts. I met many people that were there late but in support. Met a nice couple in Spencer's buying a pot shirt for the occassion. There was alot of security present and they took pictures. I was impressed with the support especially on a holiday weekend.

Thank you so much Mason and SAFER. Thank you to everybody who was there either in body or spirit.

[Moedank]

me and my wife and a friend of mine were there! Got a couple Safer shirts, talked to some really cool people. All around great time!

It was nice to meet everyone...:jointsmile:

Nice to be on this site too...

[Justabloke]

when they fuck with one of us, they fuck with all of us, and we have to stick together.

THANK YOU! That's exactly what I've been trying to say! Now, lets collectively fuck them!

j

[StoneyJake]

Welcome to the site. Very good people here
Thanks for showing your support. I wish I coulda been there myself.
Its awesome that so many people could make it there on such short notice.

I heard that KBPI mentioned it. LOL Loved hearing that since Uncle Nasty was on FOX with Jessica Corry a few days ago from my understanding. I havent found the video though

[Justabloke]

I would guess about 40 to 50 people were there when we first walked in. Most were in Cannabis/Can o Beer shirts. I met many people that were there late but in support. Met a nice couple in Spencer's buying a pot shirt for the occassion. There was alot of security present and they took pictures. I was impressed with the support especially on a holiday weekend.

Thank you so much Mason and SAFER. Thank you to everybody who was there either in body or spirit.

Reen,

Not only was it my pleasure, it was my honor as well! It was great putting face to name with you and Jake's dad.

My most significant moment in the mall was when the Security guard in the white dress shirt and I were on the West Up Escalater he said to me "Oh were just here keeping people safe"...my reply to him was "Oh yeah? Just like you did with Jake last weekend?!" He didn't respond. LOL

Then later as I and others I bought Cinnabon for were sitting down stairs by the West escalators he came by and said "a friend wanted me to give this to you" It was a buiness card for a tv show called "The Cone Zone." I dont know what it's about but I'm going to look into it.

It was great to see allllllll the usual faces you see at events like this. I just wish there would have been many, many more. It was a great event and I think Jake would have been highly impressed.

It' hard to find people who agree on everything but the consenses seemed to be "I'm here for Jake, the man who was put out of the mall for wearing a 'Yes We Cannabis' T-shirt on" I was very impressive.

Lets do it again!!!!

j

[HazeyDayz]

Hello Everyone! I'm Jake's girlfriend and I just wanted to let all of you now how much we appreciate everyone's support today. It was invigorating to see how many people were able to come out on such short notice. I hope they realize now how many people's "family-values" were going unrecognized.

[StoneyJake]

I was very impressed to see how many could make it on such short notice, I cant wait to see it on TV tonight at 10.
To bad Rob couldnt make it. Its understandable, hes a very busy man and Im very lucky to have him on my side.

[copobo]

THANK YOU! That's exactly what I've been trying to say! Now, lets collectively fuck them!

j

maybe we need to start showing up when they bust an mmj patient / grower / dispensary. picket the da, or whoever is responsible.

what ever happened with the raids in the springs?

[throatstick]

maybe we need to start showing up when they bust an mmj patient / grower / dispensary. picket the da, or whoever is responsible.

what ever happened with the raids in the springs?

we should all buy a police scanner and anytime we here of some bs we all show up as it's happening lmao...thats great.

[Justabloke]

we should all buy a police scanner and anytime we here of some bs we all show up as it's happening lmao...thats great.

Police radios aren't what they use to be. Some are 800mhz Trunked but now they have radios you can't pick up the freqs with any scanner. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad::mad::mad:

j

[Justabloke]

maybe we need to start showing up when they bust an mmj patient / grower / dispensary. picket the da, or whoever is responsible.

what ever happened with the raids in the springs?

I don't think there is any "maybe" about it. YES! We should show up and in expansivly large groups!

j

[Justabloke]

I was very impressed to see how many could make it on such short notice, I cant wait to see it on TV tonight at 10.
To bad Rob couldnt make it. Its understandable, hes a very busy man and Im very lucky to have him on my side.

Yes, if I had to pick which side of Rob's I'd want to be...it'd deffinately be his good side! That man is going to tear those people a new ass hole.

j

[Justabloke]

Hello Everyone! I'm Jake's girlfriend and I just wanted to let all of you now how much we appreciate everyone's support today. It was invigorating to see how many people were able to come out on such short notice. I hope they realize now how many people's "family-values" were going unrecognized.

Hiya Hazey :)

It was wonderful meeting you! I find it motivational for me as an activst when I see people such as yourself who stand up against tyranny! Thank you for being a inspiration to me.

j

[TheReleafCenter]

Did you get an apology yet? Had two events this weekend and have been completely out of the loop.