Tiny's Happy House of Hydro

[tinytoon]

Sorry has taken so long but I did promise it would happen. Here come the pics and I'll try to explain things a lil.
Room is aprox 12x8x6 2x4 walled with plywood for walls and r13 insulation on the outside of wall. Have a nice lil heater that does good job for room size but without any type of glowing element, the only light from it is temp setting and such which is covered up. Dehumidifier also with red bucket full light blanked. 16' osilating fan. 6" 435 cfm exhaust fan pulling through 100% organic charcoal filter. 2 Nextgen 600w ballasts running 2 Sun System Yeild Master II supreme reflectors. 6" 435 cfm fan pulling through same type filter to cool lights. Atm light cooling is just dumped outside room into basement but hooking up to old dryer vent to get heat outside for summer. Using Ebb&Grow system, only ran 10 buckets on virgin run. 55 gal rez, 300w aquarium heater, 2 4" airstones that will be replaced by 2 12" stones next run, CAP tri-meter, 1/3 hp sump pump that pumps 600 gph to drain rez and a washing machine water supply to fill the s o b. Still running GH 3-part and have quite the shopping list for round 2 which I am also adding 8 more buckets for total of 18 plants next run. Hopefull I not leave anything out but if ?? just ask :jointsmile:

pic 1 Ballast light 1
pic 2 Ballast light 2
pic 3 water supply
pic 4 Rez and drain
pic 5 wall with door and intake

[tinytoon]

only post 5 pics at a time ........ /sigh

pic 1 door, intake and breaker box
pic 2 Breaker box
pic 3 rez
pic 4 left is light exhaust and right is room exhaust
pic 5 room exhaust fan

[tinytoon]

fingers getting tired .........

pic 1 tri-meter .... friggin PH
pic 2 tri-meter ...... PH correct
pic 3 Heater and Dehumidifier
pic 4 Humidity
pic 5 Temp

[tinytoon]

Finger's just went numb ..........

pic 1 when bucket full machine not run
pic 2 runs now and no tinkle on floor hehe
pic 3 looking west
pic 4 looking east
pic 5 1 more west view

[tinytoon]

This is week 8 of 9 flowering and they are running half str this week and plain for week 9.

Upcoming changes .........
1) adding 8 more buckets
2) seperating heater and dehumidifier, different ends of room so have to add 1 outlet.
3) adding 400w cooltube between the 600's

Enjoy the nudididity!! :jointsmile:

[scottcc5s]

This is week 8 of 9 flowering and they are running half str this week and plain for week 9.

Upcoming changes .........
1) adding 8 more buckets
2) seperating heater and dehumidifier, different ends of room so have to add 1 outlet.
3) adding 400w cooltube between the 600's

Enjoy the nudididity!! :jointsmile:

VERY NICE setup, thanks for sharing. Makes my 6x6x6 grow tent look very weak. :)

[ForgetClassC]

Awesome set-up, are those carbon scrubbers cones? Haha looked like you went to autozone and bought an intake cone.

-C

[martyrprojekt]

AWESOME TINY!!!! Looking sexy. I can't wait to watch a full grow in your new room! Congrats! Looks like all the work is paying off!

[tinytoon]

ty all for the kind words so far, about killed myself putting the dam thing together. 11 days of work and that includes working FT and the only thing not done by me was 2 coats of reflective paint.

Those filters are organic charcoal filters. Organic Air charcoal fiber filters nicknamed the freshmaker. It's funny how you referred to Auto Zone since I am an ASE certified mechanic by trade but no that is not part of a cold air intake lol :D


BTW anyone going to Bike Week in Laconia NH?

[tinytoon]

also have a stupid simple question that I believe I already have an answer to but will ask to verify, when growing with supplements (calmag, koolbloom, florishous plus, etc) they effect the ppm of your mix correct?? Have onyl really played with GH 3-part and wanted to make sure before I started mixing 40+ gals of water just to go "shit" at the end and have to dump it and start over. Have read allot as many of you know but cant remember ever seeing this in black and white even though it's prob a "no duh" answer lol :wtf:

[LOC NAR on probation]

They all effect the mix. I used to start by adding calmag to bring the ppm's up to 250.

Looking very good and I can see alot of hard work. Can't wait to see the turn out.

I was suppose to go to Michigan and help a friend build a room just about like yours but the engine in my van cracked a block or something and I have oil in the water. Trying to get my MGB going but that's a long trip and I can't carry many tools. LOL

Maybe when I pull the engine I'll clean it up and do a grow out of the cylinders. LOL

[GetThisOrDie]

Very nice. You have been a busy bee my friend!

That is sweet man... One day I will have something like that.


I thought the same thing when i saw the filters!!! I was going to ask you how much HP they added to your grow lol.

I have to keep adding coolant to my truck but i cant find any drips in my driveway... making me go nuts trying to figure it out!


LOL Loc that would be awesome. Reminds me of some pictures I saw of an ambulance converted into a mobile grow room.

[ForgetClassC]

Haha did someone get jealous of martyr super rooms? lol. Very nice, can't wait to see all that comes out of there.

-C

[warlord98]

Nice... Nice... I am running similar set up like yours. You stated something about this on one of my posts. It looks very good.I myself had to do alot of reading on the e.c. and ppm as it pertains to nutes. Had to do one of those Oh Shit dumps like you are talking about. I added the requested amount but on the well water I'm on it shot to 1600 ppm over night. How I'm not sure.Dumped anyway and went with a one part grow with one additive.I sure hope my flowering period goes as well as yours looks like it is. I'm signed on and will be watching you progress.:thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

lol ForgetClassC....

Little do Tiny and Martyr know but they are both constructing a room for me soon!
Dont tell them because they dont know yet.

[tinytoon]

Loc sounds more like a cracked Head or blown head gasket to me.
GtoD check your passenger side floorboards to see if heater core is leaking. also any water on dipstick??

Ty all once again for the kind words. Today is clone day and doing another first. Need 18 so will be taken 20 or so. should be quite the happy family under the dome LOL.

Yup, I'll help build it but you should have stayed in VA. Gonna cost ya more now for the extra mileage :jointsmile:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Hey man I got water in my oil but no oil in the water. When the first freeze came this winter I thought I put enough antifreeze in the cars but mine didn't get enough. It's been running bad when it heats up and the oil with water mix gets thin. If I pull the plugs one by one I may find it's blown into a cylinder. Hopefully it's a head gasket.

All in all it's a 1999 Chevy Astro van and the motor must come out to fix anything. :(

Good news is if there is no crack. Then a total rebuild is in order. Try and get a garage to do that nowadays. :wtf:
I will tear it down and take it to the machine shop and put it back together myself. Save a few thousand that could build a bigger growroom. :stoned:

well got to go work on my 1980 MGB it's like driving a gocart but hard to keep one lit with the top down. LOL

[tinytoon]

Loc: Atleast the snow is gone :thumbsup:

Ok it has started!! Today was clone day and have never taken this many at 1 time.

Ok how to clone .......
pic 1 Gather supplies (notice bong in background :))
pic 2 size up your opponent (Moma got quite bushy)
pic 3 other side of Moma (Lil 1 in bucket is Moma replacement, Moma will be flowering with the clones she gives today)
pic 4 Grab hold and CHOP!!
pic 5 All set to put on stove and make soup :wtf:

[tinytoon]

pic 1 The Babies (aint they cute!!!)
pic 2 Moma after crash diet
pic 3 Side B

If any want to know step by step how I clone I can post it up

[GetThisOrDie]

Wow your mother is huge now. Did you take a pic of her after the cuttings?

I still havent checked the heater core because its hot outside. I dont see any water on the dipstick btw. When I drove it down here it started to burn some oil up somewhere but that has stopped and since it stopped its starting to consume the coolant.

Wish I could buy a new truck but I dont have the money.

nevermind about the pics I posted while you were uploading lol

[joshdub]

tiny looks good man what strain you got growing there?

[tinytoon]

Strain is called Medi-Bud. Strain developed in Holland and recently out on market. Short to medium height with a 8-9 week flower. We are currently doing 9 weeks but I'm gonna sneak in a 10 week somewhere to see if there is much difference. Dont get me wrong this is VERY good smoke but if your not trying to make it just a lil better then your taking the fun out of it. This strain loves hydro and has very high hopes for it's medicinal qualities. Only found 1 bank on the net that sells it. We spent the extra bills for feminized that way if I end up with a dude there is only 1 way to point the finger ...... straight up!! :wtf:

The last grow I logged was the first time I used any additive outside of Superthrive for starting clones and veg. This time we are continuing with the ST and adding 1 or 2 others :D

Gh 3-part as always, I wont use anything else (can I be a paid spokesperson??:jointsmile:)
There rest is all GH brand so I'm not gonna type GH for it all.
Calmag, Koolbloom, Florishous Plus. The tent saw 8oz off 3 1/2 plants for my virgin DWC run under a 400w Cooltube. I cant wait for the finish of this. Oh before I forget I hooked up my light exhaust to an old dryer vent that isnt used anymore to get the heat away from my rez, rez has dropped about 2-3 degrees and the only way to tell anything coming out is to try to watch the grass move. 10 ladies in there on there last week of life and no smell :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Well nothing new to report except had to do some emergency surgery on 3 of the clones. I believe that I ended up with an air bubble in each one, I dont think the stem was crushed when put in the RR. I did a 45' cut above the damaged area and reinserted in RR. Inside of RR still had a coating of gel so didnt add anymore.

Lil Mom is doing quite well. She has 6 roots that have found water and one of them is that nice fuzzy looking kind :thumbsup:

[scottcc5s]

Well nothing new to report except had to do some emergency surgery on 3 of the clones. I believe that I ended up with an air bubble in each one, I dont think the stem was crushed when put in the RR. I did a 45' cut above the damaged area and reinserted in RR. Inside of RR still had a coating of gel so didnt add anymore.

Lil Mom is doing quite well. She has 6 roots that have found water and one of them is that nice fuzzy looking kind :thumbsup:

My first and second clone efforts sucked so I had to plant seeds to get something going (way behind time wize). Couple of questions for you on what you said in this post:

1) What do you mean "air bubble"?
2) What do you mean with it was crushed? Do you mean you did not have a good 45 angle cut and you cut above the bad cut and cut it again?

Since I sucked at cloning this go around I am trying to learn for next time I try to clone. :)

[ForgetClassC]

I love the way a nice full root mass looks in hydro, so clean and crisp.

Have you tried the maxi series? Just wondering if you use the 3 part Flora because of dissolvebility? (Idk if that's a word, but it should be)

-C

[Daddynobucks]

My first and second clone efforts sucked so I had to plant seeds to get something going (way behind time wize). Couple of questions for you on what you said in this post:

1) What do you mean "air bubble"?
2) What do you mean with it was crushed? Do you mean you did not have a good 45 angle cut and you cut above the bad cut and cut it again?

Since I sucked at cloning this go around I am trying to learn for next time I try to clone. :)

You need to read my POST on 100% CLONE RATE

Hint: spliting the RR cubes down one side avoids crushing or crumpling the stem :thumbsup:

Daddy

[tinytoon]

the air bubble I'm talking about is when you make a cut on the stem there is a very good chance that the stem will basicall suck air into it. when this happens it blocks anything from going up the stem to keep the plant alive. A crushed stem is when you either squeeze it to hard or when inserting into like a RR it bends enough to snap.


I have stayed with 3-part because it has never done me wrong. E&F, DWC and now downstairs and it always comes through for me. Now that the basement is running I just might experiment a lil in the tent.

Same process using Rapid Rooters Daddy?? Tried that once when I was still using Rockwool and the dam thing would not close back up. Had to use friggin bread ties to hold it together.

[scottcc5s]

You need to read my POST on 100% CLONE RATE

Hint: spliting the RR cubes down one side avoids crushing or crumpling the stem :thumbsup:

Daddy

Thanks Tiny and Daddy for the feedback and will check it out. Here are some of the errors I now understand I made:

1) I did not soak the rock cube in low PH (5.5) water.
2) I did not use a heat mat under my dome
3) I did not use low PH water. Water I used had PH in the 8 range

Have seeds going now and will try cloning again next time around. :)

Tiny:

You have a hell of a grow/setup going, great work and look forward to seeing the results. :)

[jtsik330]

Hey Tiny, I am not sure if you've tried but a bubbler clone works wonders for me and I am sure it would for you too! I don't manage my environment right now very well. When I mean I don't control my environment I mean that the clones are in 105 degree attic in a bubbler that really I don't even maintain. Still got roots in about 2 weeks on 15 girls. I even leave them in there once roots are showing and let them grow DWC style for another week or two. Once the roots can handle nutes I put them right into flower. I don't have to worry about anything when it comes to them rooting. :thumbsup: I know you already know what you are doing though:D

[tinytoon]

Well I would say I have a decent grasp of the situation :jointsmile:
I have looked into bubble cloners (DIY of course), and actually have 2 made containers all set and have quite a few airstones laying around and have enough air tubing to hang someone but my problem was a didnt have the lousy 10 bucks for a stupid air pump!! I am hoping that this will be 1 of the last times using the dome and such. Really hard to keep temp in range and such when I leave for work it is 68 outside and come home to 80+. As always ty all for input and hopefully this thing will turn out a nice yield. The virgin grow ends this friday so will spend holiday trimming and such.

[GetThisOrDie]

Found the leak tiny... it was the radiator on the very top inside seam. Tried to use stopleak and it literally blew the fluid out of the hole! Glad it didnt happen when I was driving....

Been working on changing my radiator ALL DAY... yes I said all day for a radiator :P

Dont ask... Lets just say Pepboys> Advanced auto.

[tinytoon]

So far nothing died yet :thumbsup: This temp thing is really pissing me off though. Went to work about 79 under the dome and nice sweating. Get home from work and 91 under the dome and all I can say is glad it not me under there :wtf:

Glad you found the leak GToD and sorry bout the parts stores. Our Advance Auto isn't worth a shit either. Called one day from the shop wanting rear brake PADS and the parts guy asked me if it was disc or drum brakes in the rear, I told him nm and called somewhere else lol :D

[GetThisOrDie]

LOL thats great... Thats almost as good as my Autozone experience. Went in asked the lady at the computer for a new rear differential gasket. She told me that they dont sell those and that they are a junkyard part and began telling me where the nearest junkyard was. lol...

[tinytoon]

Sorry missed a day or 2 put sure dont have many roses in my life atm. Today is cut day for the virgin run so I'm happy bout that. Clone wise still not looking real good this time . Heat, heat and more heat. I'm done, no more domes for me. I will have some sort of bubble cloner made by the time I need to clone again and hopefully move that to basement also. So far from what I see I gonna lose atleast 4 so I will be short of the 18 I needed but oh well not like I can run to the dispensery and pick up more, California peeps got it made LOL. OK enough typing for me. My friggin wrist is killing me and gonna make carrying buckets real fun. Dumbass pulled out in front of me otw home from work last night and I ended up laying my bike down not to hit the arsehole. Said he will pay for damages and all I can say is he better because if not there not enough medication around to keep me calmed down from kicking his ass!!
Later :thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

Damn I hope everything turns out ok. Things are sour down my way as well... You have to play the hand you are dealt i suppose.

I just bought a new dome for cloning and it has vents on the top that you can open. Does yours? I wonder if you got a new lid with vents if it would help your heat. I also have everything I need to make a bubble cloner but I wanted to try the dome first.


my first cloning attempts were no good to say the least lol.

[tinytoon]

Ok clone update, lost 7 took 10 more and cross fingers this time :wtf:

[tinytoon]

New clones I took are doing real well and the few that still remain from first cloning are still hanging in there. Temps should be down a lil for next few days so hopefully I can get these buggers rooted and on their way.

Finished trimming everything from virgin run yesterday and as soon as dry will post a weight.

[tinytoon]

Clones still look green and healthy. Still no roots for the first bunch I took but they have been through allot so hoping the new batch can catch them hehe :thumbsup:

Do have a few more pics of the finish of the virgin run, these are from just before cutting

[tinytoon]

few more of harvest. Total weight dry 2lbs 2.75 oz from 10 plants and 1200w for a gpw of .83

I'm happy!! :rastabanna:

[GetThisOrDie]

Damn thats sweet! .83 is great!

Im sure you will get that 1gpw after you dial that room in...


I know you said you dont like to get your hands dirty lol, but have you ever grown in soil?

You should try a purple or blue strain! I bet a sea of blue buds hanging like yours would be sweet.

Grats man and dont forget to pass it this way.

[GetThisOrDie]

alright dude... Ive racked my brain too much trying to figure out what game your avatar is from. You must tell me.

[tinytoon]

Well as far as soil, we do have Cactus, Ross Moss, Zinnia, various herbs and 2 clones that I said I would try and get going for a friend who is growing outside. Also have my Corn and flower garden outside. My big thing with soil is I think I would have bugs from hell around here!! :wtf:

As for the Avatar .......... The original Everquest. :thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

Yes bugs are annoying... When I was in VA, I had two plants going in a micro cab in a closet in the basement lol. Sometimes when I would check on them there would be big wasps inside! How they got into the house and into the sealed cab in a closet is beyond me. Several times this happened.


Friggin EQ! When EQ was big I was into FPS and FPS only. I did try EQ2 though... wasnt that good. Do you still play?

[tinytoon]

I left EQ for a couple years when WoW came out but that was just to simple so I went back to EQ and yup still play :thumbsup:

Have roots showing from 3 of the original batch of clones. If they really start popping I'll pull out another tray with Hydrotron in it and get the lil buggers going a lil :D

[GetThisOrDie]

Oh god not WoW... Me and my wife played for maybe 4 or more years. It was fun when things were hard like when they would lock us out of MC for fear of progressing too fast. Its turned into a childrens game where you dont need to put any effort in to get purples... Boo to that game!

Have you tried any other MMOs? I played Aion for awhile and thats a fun game. Warhammer online is alright. Trying Star Trek online now and its surprisingly good.

Obsessively playing modern warfare 2 and bad company2 right now. PC ONLY PEOPLE OK? No consoles!

In case you cant tell I love my video games.



Speaking of clones I got a bag of rapid rooters like you and many others suggested. Just waiting on the Blue Mystic to get bigger.

[tinytoon]

Ok we have 5 showing roots this morning and tonite I will set up a tray with Hydrotron to put them in for now.

[scottcc5s]

Ok we have 5 showing roots this morning and tonite I will set up a tray with Hydrotron to put them in for now.

Good to hear.

So are you going from rapid rooter, then to rapid rooter (into tray), then to rapid rooter (into bucket)? Just trying to understand your steps to finally get them into your buckets. :)

[tinytoon]

Normally I go from RR under the dome to bucket with Hydrotron but since I had so much trouble with clones I had to break out the second tray with Hydrotron in it to have some place to put the rooted clones before their roots dried out and let the others catch up. Hopefully they will go in buckets this weekend.
Btw my second batch of clones is now 10/10 with roots :D

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice... hope I have some success this time trying to clone.

[tinytoon]

Well I have 17 clones to go into the system but still not sure about 1 of them. Will try and get pics up later but busy as hell atm. Got 2 grows going, trying to start the third, revamped a few things in grow room, trying to get bike ready for motorcycle week in Laconia and work FT. I'm beat :wtf3:

[tinytoon]

I know I have promised pics and they are coming I have been "remodeling" my room and not allot of room with 17 clones in there lol. Have 1 or 2 more things to do then will snap pics and post. Leaving Monday for Bike Week!!!

[tokr2153]

man i need a room like yours , lookin good man but who will be watch ur girls while ur at bike week?

[tinytoon]

Outside of adding water to my Cab and to Moma everything else is pretty much on automatic pilot :D
My GF's son lives with us and I have been showing him what he needs to know and labeling the water jugs as who gets what when ..........

not to mention I'll program the phone to get me on speed dial hehe :cool:

[tinytoon]

Ok if I have never said it before I'll say it now ...... you MUST soak your hydrotron in PH balanced water until the water is at the ph needed so it might take a couple times of soaking to get PH down. That being said guess what I didnt do .......... constant PH rise and only thing I can think of is a 50# bag of Hydrotron was added to what I already had and it got rinsed real well but didnt think ahead and didnt have time to soak as clones were going into their buckets :mad:

[GetThisOrDie]

I want auto pilot... not fair.

So the clones are having a hard time? I hope you didnt lose them.

lol did you give a crash course in keeping the ladies alive? Probably ended with something like, "... if not ill kick your ass.".

[tinytoon]

no the clones are still doing fine except for the 1 I doubted would make it, that 1 still looks like shit. I have been adjusting after every flood so it has not gone above 6.5 at all. I have been dropping down to 5.5 to try and offset what was going on and it might be working. When I got up this morning PH in rez was 6.2, not bad but not what I want. Dropped PH in rez down to 5.5, like I have about 10 times or so now, and when I came home for lunch PH was at 5.8 which is my magic number. Only 1 flood took place after I readjusted PH this morning. Left PH alone at lunch and waiting for flood atm so I can go check it again.

Side note about grows done in the basement, the stairs get really old after awhile :wtf:

[drudown11]

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Side note about grows done in the basement, the stairs get really old after awhile :wtf:



yea and they get kinda creepy during the nightime. I feel like something is hiding in the jungle watching me.

[tinytoon]

LOL Dru you gave me a great idea, I gotta get me a sound recording of jungle sounds like the birds squaking and lion roars and shit and play it in the grow room the next time I take a Visitor inside to take a peek :jointsmile:

Oh BTW have a new DIY idea for all those who wish to save money and I'm talking $40 per item. Will post this afternoon along with room pics (yes I will post TODAY!!) and hopefully we can all save some cash!

[tinytoon]

Ok first 3 are of course the plants and as you can see are doing really well considering the PH battle that has been going on. Btw I won the battle today!! Ph is now stabile. The next 2 pics will show that I added another fan and they are on the walls to save on room. Heater and dehumidifier are now at seperate ends of the room.

[tinytoon]

Yup more pics of improvements. Last run I was forced into using the HPS bulbs for vegging and I was not happy with that, so I came up with a quick and easy solution. I kinda "borrowed" 3 of my shop lights from the garage and bought 2 more along with a case of Daylight bulbs. Couple spare pieces of 2x4 and when I didnt have any more took a couple of 10' 3/4" PCV pipes and cut them both in half. A little chain and some S hooks and Booya!! Veg lights :D Another problem I was having was many air leaks. No smell getting out but my passive intakes were doing nothing with cracks around pipes, wiring, floor supports and floor itself in a few spots. Solution?? Great Stuff Foam sealant. Only fault this stuff has is once you start using a can, thats it it can not be stored and used again. Plan out how much you need to seal, buy the right size can and do it all at once.

[tinytoon]

Ok we all know that we want to take advantage of every lil bit of space we have so we say "hey lets get a wall mounted fan!!". $69.95 plus tax, shipping, retirement plan, presidental campaign and such. I"m not going to pay that but what shall I do. Go to home dePOT and buy a 16" pedastal fan. walk down a couple isles and get a flag mounting bracket. The mounting bracket has a 1" hole in it which is also the same size as the top section of pipe with your fan. Mount bracket where needed, cut top section of pipe at desired length, insert into bracket, plug in and turn on. BOOYA!!!


Cost $30 and the bracket is adjustable for different angles :D

[LOC NAR on probation]

I'm loving the fan idea. Thanks I'm off to the store.

[warlord98]

Hope you have a good ride. Ahh laconia. I was trying to get out there this year. Economy/kids/bills you get the idea. Anyway keep the shiny side up. Take lots of pics.:thumbsup:

[scottcc5s]

Tiny:

Great setup good ideas you share....must be nice to have that much room to grow. Can't wait to see the results. :)

[Daddynobucks]

:thumbsup: Tiny you need to paint those buckets with white paint.

A ques. why does everyone use so much Hydroton?? I use a 6" net pot in a 5 gal. bucket, and the roots fill the bucket.
Am I missing something??

really a nice room your setting up

Daddy

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice pictures. I like the fan...

[tinytoon]

Daddy what's up with the white paint??

[Daddynobucks]

and heat, it really helps in preventing radiant heating of the buckets. It is no substitute for a water chiller or air cond. but its a lot cheaper and every little bit helps, but maybe with all the hydroton you use the heat doesn't get trapped in the buckets like mine does with lids and smaller net pots??

Daddy

[scottcc5s]

Tiny:

What's your time/flow cycle when you start out when plants are small in your buckets? I am 3 or 4 weeks behind you with same ebb and flow setup. :)

[tinytoon]

First 2 weeks 1/2 strength nutes flood 4 times a day for 15 mins each. Floros on 24/7. Starting week 3, as long as weeks 1 & 2 gave me the growth I want, Turn on the big lights for 18/6 and flood 5 times a day but not at "night" time. If you have an MH bulb for your big light(s) then use it starting week 3 but if you are like me and cant get an MH bulb, has to be conversion bulb for 600w, HPS will work also.

Daddy thanks for the headsup on the bucket thing :thumbsup:

[scottcc5s]

First 2 weeks 1/2 strength nutes flood 4 times a day for 15 mins each. Floros on 24/7. Starting week 3, as long as weeks 1 & 2 gave me the growth I want, Turn on the big lights for 18/6 and flood 5 times a day but not at "night" time. If you have an MH bulb for your big light(s) then use it starting week 3 but if you are like me and cant get an MH bulb, has to be conversion bulb for 600w, HPS will work also.

Daddy thanks for the headsup on the bucket thing :thumbsup:

Thanks Tiny, will follow that advise and post pics once I get to that point. :)

[tinytoon]

B safe all and I'll be back in a week :jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

Have fun and stay medicated

[tinytoon]

As the title says I am back. Lets some up Bike week. The person I was suppose to borrow a trailer from basically lied to me so no trailer and no bike! :mad: Didnt find out till Monday morning when I was leaving. Went down to the main area once during the whole week. Bought a few t-shirts, new bags for bike and of course made a trip down to Manchester to buy a new smoke piece :jointsmile:

Other than that bike week sucked for me ......... then I came home and it went downhill :wtf:

Directions: if ph goes up to 6.0 add 15 ml ph down.
results: ph is at 5.4 and (I still dont get it) I have more water in my rez than when I left and ppm is up to about 1100????? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

Next year I might be looking for a babysitter!!

[LOC NAR on probation]

I like babies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry about bike week. I got a friend in Michigan that goes to most all bike weeks but he is coming to the crystal coast for vacation next week and might not have gone. I don't have a bike but he has an extra fatboy he lets me ride when he comes and I have a few fatones for him too. He is just getting his mmj card up there and wants to setup a grow room. He said his job place he's been at over 20 years is OK with it if he has the card. This is a big company that will let you go quick on this one if your illeagle.

Ramblin--- Good to have you back.

[GetThisOrDie]

Welcome back dude... sorry to hear bike week wasnt awesome for you.

lol the only person I trust with my ladies is my wife. I would worry the whole time if I had someone watching them.

[tinytoon]

well it seems that all of my ladies are doing well and not showing signs of abuse after my trip. wanted to wait a few days before saying that lol.
Will post some pics as they have grown a lil. Still doing improvements to the room. I swear that never ends. Pretty easy atm since still 24/7 with floros so atleast I can see ....... that helps a little

[ForgetClassC]

Anything going on worthy of pictures?

-C

[tinytoon]

I'll get some pics up by tomorrow morning at the latest. Been back to work 2 days now and am remembering how much it hurts to work :(

[LOC NAR on probation]

There's only one work that doesn't hurt.

[tinytoon]

:greenthumb::weedpoke:

[tinytoon]

I didnt take hardly any pics while I was there, to pissed off, but here are a few nice ones

[tinytoon]

As stated before this room is on going. By the time I get it exactly the way I want I'm gonna put a patent on it :thumbsup:

Mainly redoing the ductwork for lights and exhaust. replacing as much of the flexible crap with soild duct work. Better airflow and less cleaning ...... Yipee!!!! :dance:

[tinytoon]

After 3 weeks vegging under floros. this weekend the cabinet finishes and the 400w cooltube running MH bulb joins the twin 600w with HPS bulbs for atleast 2 more weeks of vegging. You should remember that the big bush is the retired Mother. She will be flowering with her kids.

Enjoy :jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

And since I took them anyways we have the cabinet finishing for the last time as it will be the new Momma's home. We also have there foursome in the tent. They are finishing week 5 veg and flip to flower this weekend.

[ForgetClassC]

That's a big ole girl.

-C

[tinytoon]

Yup she a big one all right hehe. Been kinda worried bout flowering her as I not thinking it will take long before everything is on the floor from weight :D

[scottcc5s]

And since I took them anyways we have the cabinet finishing for the last time as it will be the new Momma's home. We also have there foursome in the tent. They are finishing week 5 veg and flip to flower this weekend.

You have got it dialed in...I will be working you to learn how you do it. FYI only car guys who grew up in the 70's know who/what this pic means. :)

[tinytoon]

Where did you get the pic of the Snake's car!!

John Force against Don "the snake" Prudome what a classic drag!:woohoo:

[scottcc5s]

Where did you get the pic of the Snake's car!!

John Force against Don "the snake" Prudome what a classic drag!:woohoo:

CA car show few months back. :)

[tinytoon]

I swear I'm on the wrong coast :(

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice bike... the one with Death and the dogs? Looks cool.

[tinytoon]

Sunday I finally got the main lights hung up and finished the ductwork, Now lets fight the heat problem. 6" duct running from fan all through room to the other side where it changed to 3" for aprox 8' and then outside. Had some much restriction that I was blowing air out of the seems to the metal ductwork. Disconnected from where it dropped down to 3" and room temp got better but then basement temp went high. Caught my rez at 77.8 and wasnt happy. Last night I eliminated all the 3" except for what runs through the window and hooked it all back up to try again. Much better airflow than at first but still not where it needs to be. It will work but will be checking on replacing the last amount of 3" with either 4" or 5".

[martyrprojekt]

I swear I'm on the wrong coast :(

Yes SIR...YES you are on the wrong coast:wtf:
SO...get packing!!!!!!!!!:D

[tinytoon]

Yup out there I could maybe get hired to grow and use my green thumb and help others too :greenthumb:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Yup out there I could maybe get hired to grow and use my green thumb and help others too :greenthumb:

I'm with ya. Lets pack up head out and give Marty a run for his money. Or at least get a job from him. LOL

[martyrprojekt]

No kidding right...be careful the feds will call this a conspiracy...LMFAO!:jointsmile:

I am sure you guys will be out here someday...maybe go to the MED cup with me next year. We should enter some strains. The stuff this year was garbage. I laughed when they were presenting the awards for the best strains. (Vortex by Sub-cool is a good strain...but it is really worthy of a first place at the MED CUP? Highly questionable).

[tinytoon]

Well so far it looks like a got a handle on this heat issue. Removed all 3" untill where it goes through the window so basically removed about 8' of duct and eliminated about 3 bends :thumbsup:

On a side note, the two plants we had in the cabinet and cut down this last weekend ended up being a lil over 4oz dry. Not shabby for 2 plants I guess. Cab is now retired and new home for new Momma.

[martyrprojekt]

I love it when a plan comes together...especially a long term plan finally coming to fruition. I would love to see it all in action in a series of pics.

[tinytoon]

I will see what I can do bout pics, not sure if have any before tearing down the 3" crap.

[bigtopsfinn]

Just wanted to stop in and say I greatly admire your work. Top notch, clean and never looks like you cut any corners. Great job as always :jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

Thank you Btf for the kind words :) I just do what everyone else does I guess ...... Trial and error and once you dont have but the occasional error you must be on the right path.


Had a couple of cool days and nights (July 1st and forcast tonite is 49 :wtf3:) so basement has had a chance to cool back down to it's normal temp. Trying to figure out how to get a larger diameter pipe through the window and outside without it looking really fucking weird LOL. I'll post a pic or 2 tomorrow so yall can look at my problem.

[tinytoon]

I took some picks of my venting problem from the outside, the only thing you dont see in picture is the road to the left that is about 20' away and no trees no nothing just open space. This used to be my dryer vent so it has always been out there so it is nothing new but I'm thinking if that baloons up to 6" somebody might be scrating there head thinking "Wow! That must be 1 big ass fucking dryer!!" and I dont want it to be Leo from the city or Deputy Dawg from the county because this road happens to be only 1 of three bridges going across a river so lets say it is well traveled :admin1:

[ForgetClassC]

Why not bring it up through the wall so u can bring the 6" all the way to the wall, and then modify one of those angled dryer vent covers to fit a 6" pipe.

-C

[tikiroom]

You could remove the window, and build a sealed box around the opening on the inside of the room. Then run what ever size duct to that box.

[GetThisOrDie]

i agree with tiki

You could make a sealed window box so easily for that tiny basement window.

[tokr2153]

sealed window box would proly be the easyest

[martyrprojekt]

I think you should do nothing...Just thought I should be the dick in the group...LMAO.

In all seriousness...You have come a long way...Box that window in...then we can call it a day!:thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Figures the person that wanted to be a dick was you Marty LOL ;)

Thank you so much for the ideas and if I would have read them before going to Lowes to stare at stuff in the plumbing/heating section to jumpstart my brain. Well I came up with a simple and stealth option. Bought a soffit vent which can accept either 4" or 6", removed the 3" from going through window and replaced by vent and my 6" duct goes the whole route now. Now to see if it works :wtf:

[tinytoon]

Sorry have not posted in a bit, have been battleing heat both in room and work. Last week was aprox 110 in the shop I work at and the end I have my tools and crap has no fan so no air circulation :(. Now battleing PH problem so tomorrow I will post some pics and shit so I can catch up.
:jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

damn... I had a ph problem myself this week. I have many water jugs that are identical... Well one of them hadnt been PHd yet and I watered with it. 8.8-9.0 water!

Few crispy leaf tips and some yellow blotches... think its under control now phew!



Hope your girls are doing good.

[tinytoon]

finished project pics of ventilation

[tinytoon]

more pics

[tinytoon]

couple of boosters added to 2 of the air intakes, will be adding 2 more I believe just have to get the $$$ and order them.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of or what to use when dealing with sharp bends in your flex ductwork??

[tinytoon]

and finally the girls. I put up a post one time and was complimented on how I show it like it is. I dont just show the good grows or plants I show whatever happens. Well this might out do the last post. Please no laughing out loud others are trying to watch the movie. Heat problems, PH problems and I hope the 2 or 3 peeps that just started using the Ebb&Grow system tune this channel in since all my mistakes should put them in MegaBud land :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

and more evidense of the accused in his attempted murder :beatdeadhorse:
The last pic is of our runt of the grow which has been named .......... "The Stick" :wtf:

[GetThisOrDie]

Are they on the road to recovery??

Hope so.

Everyone makes mistakes... i know i know, even I do.


The exhaust to outside looks so much better now. Good job!

[GetThisOrDie]

Oh ya... on some of those bends... they look like they are bending from twisting and pressure.

I used those potato chip bag clips to pinch the metal wire part of the duct. Hard to explain but if you can keep those bends compressed then they wont twist around like that in some spots.

[ForgetClassC]

couple of boosters added to 2 of the air intakes, will be adding 2 more I believe just have to get the $$$ and order them.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of or what to use when dealing with sharp bends in your flex ductwork??

I would say just use less so there isn't an enormous amount left over to put somewhere. Other then that, try and compress it and get like a brace of some sort(like you would for a broken arm) and just hold all the excess straight in the brace.

-C

[scottcc5s]

and finally the girls. I put up a post one time and was complimented on how I show it like it is. I dont just show the good grows or plants I show whatever happens. Well this might out do the last post. Please no laughing out loud others are trying to watch the movie. Heat problems, PH problems and I hope the 2 or 3 peeps that just started using the Ebb&Grow system tune this channel in since all my mistakes should put them in MegaBud land :thumbsup:

Thanks for posting the good/bad/ugly for us guys trying to learn. Hope the heat issue gets under control for ya. :)

[tinytoon]

What they need to make for this ductwork is like a telescoping piece cause thats what I need :D I dont need to go around corners just lengthen and shorten so light go up and down.

The plants themselves I believe are starting to come back, they havn't gotten any worst :thumbsup:
I calibrated my Tri-meter and getting PH back under control. The heat wave broke here so temps have been peeking at 80 instead of just passing by and waving at it :noel:

Flowering has started so I am now thinning out all the viney crap off of the old Mother plant. Just not enough time in the day:wtf:

[TruePyroman]

well I wish temps went down where I'm at. It was 96* today, I did so much work to upgrade my room, just to make the temps worse because the attic temp is like 110+.

damn indoor summer growing, wish I had a basement.

[ForgetClassC]

.....they havn't gotten any worst :thumbsup:


That's good.:smokin:

-C

[tinytoon]

Well a basement is no help when temps outside are 90+ unless you have ac in your room. My house was built about 150 years ago, has the old stone foundation and such, and normally temp doesnt go above 70 but Mother Nature heard to many people bitching about a cold winter so she turned up the heat and said " Bitch at me will ya ....... and turned the thermostat up.
96 huh?? sounds like East Coast to me.

[LOC NAR on probation]

96 or 100 something like that. Love the east coast. I just can't get enough of the humidity. My poor little AC unit just barely keeping up running 24/7.

Wish I had a basement but here if I dig in the ground I can get 1 foot and hit water. Real close to the coast but just far enough to be able to handle the big huricanes. Got my generator ready just in case.

If my state will just vote MMJ in november we will have it much easier.

[GetThisOrDie]

glad that they arent getting any worse. Ducting can be a pain in the ass...


ahh its only 90f today on the beach with a good breeze....

d.c. is much hotter in the summer than south florida... I think its the humidity.


Hey LOC, I hope I can get my ladies finished before the hurricanes because im right on the beach so I would have to leave and the ladies would die :(

[tinytoon]

3 days into flower and the girls are looking so much better :thumbsup: Guess that shows if you get your head out of your arse and do things correctly the plants will respond :jointsmile:

[khyberkitsune]

And they respond FAST in hydro!

[scottcc5s]

3 days into flower and the girls are looking so much better :thumbsup: Guess that shows if you get your head out of your arse and do things correctly the plants will respond :jointsmile:

Glad to hear you have turned the corner and got them back on track. :)

What's the max temp before plants starting getting in trouble? 85/90??

[tinytoon]

Lets see we have Rusty out in AZ that is growing in a shed if I remember what he said correctly and he is looking out 100+ in the desert. I try not to go above 80 anymore than I have to but the water you dont want to get above 80 if you can help it. The higher the temps go the less the water wants to accept the O2 you are pumping into it.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Middle east coast. Hot and Humid all the time.
If my water temps get to 75 degrees my plants are screwed and cyanobacteria start. Not pretty cause it starts the root rot.

[tinytoon]

well this sux .... just found out I fractured my wrist/hand 6 weeks ago when I had to lay my bike down /sigh




Can anyone say Lawsuit?? :thumbsup:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Damn did you just get it checked ?

Money doesn't make the pain go away but it keeps my mind off of it.

[tinytoon]

Yup stupid me. When it happened it didnt really bother but next week after it hurt like hell then calmed down. Now it going back to hurting like hell again. Doc said it in very restricted area where blood vessels run and possible flow might be slowed thats why my fingers go numb. Go see Ortho doc Monday. Carrying these buckets in the tent really blows!! :(

[GetThisOrDie]

That sucks dude.
Thats when you get your girlfriend to carry those buckets!

[ForgetClassC]

Can anyone say Lawsuit?? :thumbsup:

That's what I'm saying.

-C

[tinytoon]

My GF has more joint and back issuses than I do so she not carrying them. Biggest problem is since it's been 6 weeks I'm not even sure they can do anything since a break normally heals in 6 weeks :(

[tinytoon]

Here you go start of week 2 in flower.

[ForgetClassC]

The Stick is just that....still.

-C

[khyberkitsune]

My GF has more joint and back issuses than I do so she not carrying them. Biggest problem is since it's been 6 weeks I'm not even sure they can do anything since a break normally heals in 6 weeks :(

They can re-break. They're going to have to do that to my hand in the near future, as the bone was literally bent and healed like that, separated from my wrist.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Yup stupid me. When it happened it didnt really bother but next week after it hurt like hell then calmed down. Now it going back to hurting like hell again. Doc said it in very restricted area where blood vessels run and possible flow might be slowed thats why my fingers go numb. Go see Ortho doc Monday. Carrying these buckets in the tent really blows!! :(


Hope it goes Ok with the doc. That kind of pain isn't funny. I have carpal tunnel and fingers going numb sucks. Had the operation toooooooo late and still have a good bit of pain when I grab something.

Only pain worth it now is carrying those buckets. I know they bring releaf.

Looking good on the plants and say hi to stick for me. There is always a stick in the group. Sometimes Stick is the sweetest bud of all.

[scottcc5s]

They are looking good Tiny.

I just crack up on how BIG that mother plant of yours is. Sorry to hear about your wrist, I just changed my water for the first time and I hear ya about carrying those buckets.

[GetThisOrDie]

The hydro shop here sells these little rolling stand things on casters for moving big water res'. Maybe you can look into those and wheel your buckets to the tent?

[tinytoon]

Yes FCC that is the stick .... still. I should have pulled it but what the hell it is already in a bucket and trying to grow so wtf :wtf: why not

[tinytoon]

Well the X-ray clearly shows a crack and the head of xray who does the reports for doc say yup it broke. PA says hmmm .......... we gonna treat it like a sprain :wtf3:

Also went for hearing test today ......... Yup you have a loss of hearing but not bad enough for us to help and oh yeah sorry bout the ringing in your ears all we can do is say ........ DEAL WITH IT!!!!

If any of the readers here belong to the medical profession please dont take this personal but .................................................. ..

:S4:

[GetThisOrDie]

Going to the doctor is a pian in the arse if you ask me.

hey tiny.. I saw you post in a diff thread about keeping clones in the closet. Can you explain how you do that? 7 months is a crazy long time! That would come in handy.

[tinytoon]

GToD are you talking about fridge stasis?? If so it was 7 weeks and running short on time this AM so will post it tonite. Back to work broken wrist and all!

[GetThisOrDie]

Haha... whoops.


Yes thats what I meant! Sorry... I left my mind in the other room with my bong today.

You know I didnt realize how relaxed this new plant I have makes my mind. Made alot of silly mistakes in some posts and didnt even realize it.

:stoned::stoned::stoned:

[ForgetClassC]

You know I didnt realize how relaxed this new plant I have makes my mind. Made alot of silly mistakes in some posts and didnt even realize it.

That's that good shit, lol.

Yeah I would imagine taking clones and being able to save them would do wonders for a perpetual that only had room for so much.

-C

[tinytoon]

Ok this is allot easier than you might think. Take your clones the same way that you always have just cut them longer than normal, you will be cutting them down when you go to root them. Take clones and put into large ziplock bag and put into the crisper drawer of your fridge. About every other day take bag out and open it so the air can be exchanged, then close back up and back into the fridge. When you are ready to root them take them out of fridge and put stems into a cup of room temp water so clones can warm up. After about 15 mins you can start your normal deal just cut down your longer than normal stem and continue the way you always have with normal right off the branch clones. Like I said before I got 7 weeks out of mine :thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

Wow... I will have to try that one day. Thats crazy that they can stay that long like that... plants are amazing.

[tinytoon]

Hello Hydro!!!
Just about to start week 3 on flower. I like this week since according to my mix of nutes that means no more Grow and double up on the KoolBloom. Lots of flowers on all plants including the stick! Moma looks wierd as hell with flowering popping up all over. Pics either tonight or tommorow.

[scottcc5s]

Hello Hydro!!!
Just about to start week 3 on flower. I like this week since according to my mix of nutes that means no more Grow and double up on the KoolBloom. Lots of flowers on all plants including the stick! Moma looks wierd as hell with flowering popping up all over. Pics either tonight or tommorow.

Good to hear and it will be interesting to see that mother plant of yours all flowered up.

Question, have you ever used "bush master" nute? If so you like the results?

[tinytoon]

I have not used it myself but Marty has and he loves it. I wonder where that lil bugger has been ....... hmmm

[tinytoon]

Tent is 2 weeks ahead of basement and thought I would throw these in

[tinytoon]

Rez change is tomorrow so here they are.

Hey FCC the Stick is still there and it gonna turn into 1 Bud :D

[ForgetClassC]

Bet it will be the nicest one you get. Lol.

-C

[scottcc5s]

I have not used it myself but Marty has and he loves it. I wonder where that lil bugger has been ....... hmmm

Yep he (Marty) made a post a few months back so I pick some up just to have. Will see, I might try it or not. Instruction says its better to try in soil because you can play around with mix amount in each pot vs hydro where its all or nothing.

Big thumbs up on your pics you just posted. VERY NICE. :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Thank you much and FCC thats what my GF says lol

[GetThisOrDie]

Nice pics tiny.

I was wondering the same thing about Martyr... His plants probably became big enough to eat him like Little Shop Of Horrors.

A giant, talking space queen bud!

[tinytoon]

and from the local seen ....
local man found dead in his indoor garden. Police are expecting foul play. We here at WPOT have an insider on this story and we are being told that the individual was assinated by a giant Green Crack Bud!!!




film at 11

[martyrprojekt]

I have not used it myself but Marty has and he loves it. I wonder where that lil bugger has been ....... hmmm

This big bugger has been busy with industrial warehouse. And, just finished my house grow. Kush turned out nice...huge dense crowns due to Bushmaster. I have had to harvest in 3 layers. Never had kush grown like this...Bushmaster is the difference maker.

[tinytoon]

Nice to see you back Marty :thumbsup:

[scottcc5s]

This big bugger has been busy with industrial warehouse. And, just finished my house grow. Kush turned out nice...huge dense crowns due to Bushmaster. I have had to harvest in 3 layers. Never had kush grown like this...Bushmaster is the difference maker.

Marty:

Industrial warehouse, interesting........Couple of questions for you on Bushmaster since you have had real good success with it.

1) At what stage do you use it?
2) How long do you run it (one week, two weeks)?
3) Do you run it with all your normal nutes or do you just run it with just plan water?

Don't mean to high-jack Tiny post, just want to be careful if I use bushmaster. :)

[tinytoon]

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/182238-blue-dream-epic-grow.html That was one of Marty's grows where Bushmaster was used and Straight and Marty did some note swapping on the subject.

[scottcc5s]

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/182238-blue-dream-epic-grow.html That was one of Marty's grows where Bushmaster was used and Straight and Marty did some note swapping on the subject.

Thanks for that, I forgot about his grow log. Found the info I was looking for, I think I am going to try out bush master in a few weeks.

[tinytoon]

Let us know how it turns out with dosage used and such.

[scottcc5s]

Let us know how it turns out with dosage used and such.

Will do

[tinytoon]

Starting week 4 of flower and they look so pretty. I like the fact that I can no longer see the buckets, in fact you cant see the floor!! :thumbsup: I wasnt sure if sight was going to be up today so I didnt take pics last night but I will for posting in the AM.

[scottcc5s]

Starting week 4 of flower and they look so pretty. I like the fact that I can no longer see the buckets, in fact you cant see the floor!! :thumbsup: I wasnt sure if sight was going to be up today so I didnt take pics last night but I will for posting in the AM.

Nice, things sounds lush and look forward to seeing pics. The site being down was frustrating, like not getting your newspaper delivered.

[tinytoon]

as promised week 4. First I lost the buckets now I lost the floor!!!

[tinytoon]

The 2 pics that are not yellowish are just for FCC. Yup it's still the stick!! The very last pic is of the retired Mother.

[GetThisOrDie]

Lookin good tiny

That mother is so interesting looking.

[scottcc5s]

Great work, you have buds popping up everywhere. :) I forgot, what flavor you growing??

[tinytoon]

Strain called Medibud. Still fairly new and from UK. Not a bad smoke but I am starting to look at seed companies to see if there is something else I want to try. Medi does a decent job of calming me down and helps GF with panic but it really isnt doing much at all for pain. Need to find something that will do both and doesnt grow 10' tall lol

[scottcc5s]

Strain called Medibud. Still fairly new and from UK. Not a bad smoke but I am starting to look at seed companies to see if there is something else I want to try. Medi does a decent job of calming me down and helps GF with panic but it really isnt doing much at all for pain. Need to find something that will do both and doesnt grow 10' tall lol

You probably already know about them but check out "Attitude" bank, great selection and pro's at what they do. Cant say enough good things about them. :)

[tinytoon]

Yup Attitude is in my favorites folder. The only thing I dont really like about their site is that they have so many different seeds you could spend a week looking at them all just to find out you forgot what you first looked out lol

[scottcc5s]

Question for you:

Right now I am 18/6 and I have 5 water times going just during light hours. When I go 12/12 do I just keep them on 5 water times during light hours?

[LOC NAR on probation]

Strain called Medibud. Still fairly new and from UK. Not a bad smoke but I am starting to look at seed companies to see if there is something else I want to try. Medi does a decent job of calming me down and helps GF with panic but it really isnt doing much at all for pain. Need to find something that will do both and doesnt grow 10' tall lol

Sounds like you need some Papaya from nirvana. A very nice medium size but can get away if put in too large. We are going to try it with bushmaster soon. Trying S.A.G.E. from thseeds with bushmaster now that just went in. SAGE is a nice mix but not real great for pain.

We are trying to mother some northernlights. The clone we tryed first was great. An awsome pain med but maybe only when you want to lay down.

Smoking some orange bud from paradise right now and it seems to be good with pain and I don't seem to want to lay down or anything. It's lasting about 3 hours now. Kind of sore from a 5 mile walk yesterday and a workout but I'm up and doing things around the house. couple more hits and I might carry some water buckets. lol

I let some of the papaya go about 11 weeks when it was done at 8 weeks and the stuuf will not let you make it to the couch. You end up on the floor very hungry and very happy. Uncontrolable laughter like Reefer Madness. You will wake up and find you ate things you never eat or even like but remember they were gooood.

[tinytoon]

lol thats tempting!!

[GetThisOrDie]

Im sitting on the beach drinking my last beer in beautiful south florida. Moving back up north man. Hope to ask you some hydro questions when I get back up there and settled in.

Cheers Tiny!

[tinytoon]

GToD you giving up on the sun and sand already?? Dont forget snow will be returning soon

[GetThisOrDie]

Ya unfortunately had a bad experience in my location.

check out the conclusion to my grow log in the sig.

[tinytoon]

wow dude that sux big time :(

[tinytoon]

Here we go with another weekly rez change and of course I forgot to take camera downstairs so will have to wait till lights on for pics. Everything is going real well. Have started using the dry formula of PH down and so far it does it's job just have to go little at a time. Post pics later and you all have a nice day. :cool:

[tinytoon]

Sorry but pics didnt happen last night, got wrapped up looking things up and reading. I will get them tonight :thumbsup:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Hey man sounds like we are on the same week 5. I'll try to get some pic's tonight. I just put 2 in flower that I tryed bushmaster on and it's been a strange first week. No stretch and it looks weird like it's going to explode side ways. Let me go find the camera we got some sage and orange bud.

[tinytoon]

Cool Loc :thumbsup: and incase you didn't know the Troll has been banned ;)

[tinytoon]

Sorry they late

[tinytoon]

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[scottcc5s]

Tiny:

The forest is looking great! :)

[khyberkitsune]

Hey Tiny if you are ever in my area I'll hand you some freebies. My Hindu Skunk does the trick for my pain, and you already know my situation.

Also quite calming effects, and with an added bit of euphoria.

[tinytoon]

Thanks Scott!
Hey K is that something you "created" or is that a normal strain?? I know I could look it up like I always say but 1 time in 2 years I'll ask, just to dam tired,hurt to dam much and getting ready for work :(

[LOC NAR on probation]

Hindu skunk, I would like to try that. Going for the kush family next hindu, afgan and master.

Pic's are not all that great I was in a hurry and I'm at 6 weeks not 5. I had to look at the calender again.

First 2 are S.A.G.E. and then orangebud skunk. I will get better pic's they are looking and smelling good. The sage has an overwhelming smell you don't know if you want to burn it or enjoy the fragrance. Oh what a taste when burned.

Sorry about the troll he caught me at a bad time. I can't understand why some see their way as the only way. I didn't say anything cause I called him names but the racial slur was kind of out of hand. Oh well all we can do is help people find what works for them and hope no plants die in the process.

[khyberkitsune]

The Hindu Skunk is not my created strain. It's a cross of Skunk #1 and Hindu Kush. Pretty decent stuff, moderate yield, great effects, 8-10 week flowering time.

[tinytoon]

I guess I just jumped on board cause I have really been starting to look for something better and about last month or so all I've been looking at is Kush :jointsmile:
Hey Loc you are sandwiched right in between my tent (week 7) and the basement (week 5) lol

[tinytoon]

Got bored so took a few pics yesterday ...... enjoy
Rootball is old mother plant

[tinytoon]

The milk jug is sized compared to "The Stick"

[tinytoon]

Boil, Boil, Toil and trouble, make my plants grow to be Double!! oops sorry bout that, It's only my rez :)

Temp a lil high and humidity a lil high but neither my plants, room or self is perfect but I can still turn out smoke that is a whole lot better than anything else around here :thumbsup:
Btw they need to make an emoticon for "dont give a shit" and also "hurt like friggin hell!!" just a thought.

[ForgetClassC]

Haha man the stick got turned into a branch.

That's one mean root ball there, that from momma?

Very nice.

-C

[tinytoon]

Yup that is Momma's rootball :thumbsup:

[fasts102376]

only post 5 pics at a time ........ /sigh

pic 1 door, intake and breaker box
pic 2 Breaker box
pic 3 rez
pic 4 left is light exhaust and right is room exhaust
pic 5 room exhaust fan

tiny in this last pic where did u get that scubber at? it looks like a breather for a car.. does it work good? where could i buy 1 of those,i think there neat..

[scottcc5s]

Nice root "basketball" you got going with your mother plant, hope now that I have O2 going in my rez I get some good root growth.

Question: What PH level do you like to be at in flower stage?? Notice from your pic you are in 6+ range. Do you normally go up in PH during flower stage??

[tinytoon]

Fasts: Grow Lights, Grow Bulbs and Hydroponics - Plantlighting Hydroponics & Grow Lights (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com) is where I got filters, reflectors and fans. 435cfm fan with the filter on the intake side and vented directly outside. 18 plants heavy into flower and only smell is slight hint of ganja that can be found within about 5' of the outlet. Very pleased with this :thumbsup:

Scott: I tend to drift up a touch in flower. Veg I try and hold it down around 5.8 but flower I hover around 6.0-6.2

[tinytoon]

Rez change was Sunday, you know the day off everyone has?? Yeah right:wtf: I'll get pics tonight as that started flower week 6. My tent is on week 8 and running half str on the nutes, next week they will be on plain water.

[byrdog55]

Extremely nice setup! I'm jealous as I'm stuck here with a 3x3x10' closet. This will be my model when I get my house. Little will my wife know that each house will be judged based on it's suitability for a stealthy grow room.:wtf:

Cheers

[tinytoon]

That is my new key to home shopping. Bedrooms?? Big kitchen?? Closet space?? Who Cares!!!! How big is Basement?? :jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

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[tinytoon]

the pic right after momma (last pic) is "stick" all budded up :D

[tokr2153]

nice looking grow man keep it up

[ForgetClassC]

Whoa those are yellowing fast. They still growing good?

-C

[XGR33NthumbX]

yoo tiny they looking gr8 m8. how long dose it take u from start to finish??

[scottcc5s]

Looking good Tiny, that mother plant is just a beast and looks like to growing up the wall. :)

[tinytoon]

Growing just fine, the yellowing from what I can tell is mostly light bleaching.
Time from start to finish starting with clones runs about 14 weeks.

[ForgetClassC]

Growing just fine, the yellowing from what I can tell is mostly light bleaching.
Time from start to finish starting with clones runs about 14 weeks.

Haha whoa, man forgot you were throwing everything but the kitchen sink at 'em.

What's your wattage again?

-C

[tinytoon]

Total between the 3 lights is 1600W :D

[ForgetClassC]

Lol, wow, roughly 220,000 lumens........I'd wear shades in that bad boy.

-C

[Anonymousm0nkey]

Amazing setup there Tiny! I'm salivating over those colas :stoned:

[tinytoon]

Ty Anon!!
FCC I almost do wear shades lol. I keep it dark around room to make sure light doesnt enter air intakes and such so when I come out of the room I have to stand there for a min or 2 to let eyes adjust because of being blind as a bat when I come out of there. Came out one time and didnt let adjustment happen and walked dead into a metal beam support, had a friggin knot on my head for a couple days after :icon506:

[jtsik330]

Ty Anon!!
FCC I almost do wear shades lol. I keep it dark around room to make sure light doesnt enter air intakes and such so when I come out of the room I have to stand there for a min or 2 to let eyes adjust because of being blind as a bat when I come out of there. Came out one time and didnt let adjustment happen and walked dead into a metal beam support, had a friggin knot on my head for a couple days after :icon506:
hahaha sorry to laugh Tiny, but I've done the saaaaaammeee exact thing:jointsmile:

[scottcc5s]

Tiny:

With your many grows, what would you say your "average" weight (dried) is per plant? :)

[tinytoon]

That is a hard question for me to answer as I just started using additives such as Koolbloom and florishous plus. We grew for almost 2 years straight before starting additives. Just sticking to GH 3-part for so long gave me a great chance to learn how to grow in my setups and get familiar with the strain. I just checked with the master trimmer/weigher (Girlfriend :D) and she said atm roughly 2oz dried per plant but that is increasing do to the additives. Next grow will see the addition of dry Koolbloom along with liquid version and we will see how that goes. This is only the 2nd run in the basement and from what I can see the biggest yeild yet so we will see what happens to the average.

[ForgetClassC]

Ty Anon!!
FCC I almost do wear shades lol. I keep it dark around room to make sure light doesnt enter air intakes and such so when I come out of the room I have to stand there for a min or 2 to let eyes adjust because of being blind as a bat when I come out of there. Came out one time and didnt let adjustment happen and walked dead into a metal beam support, had a friggin knot on my head for a couple days after :icon506:

Hahaha man that sucks.

In reguards to the Koolbloom, I'd be interested in that was well, I'm wondering if what they say about start with the dry end with the wet(maybe visa versa) does anything or if its just like the G1 G2 and G3 shit that Gatoraide came out with and is just a hot steamy load.

-C

[scottcc5s]

That is a hard question for me to answer as I just started using additives such as Koolbloom and florishous plus. We grew for almost 2 years straight before starting additives. Just sticking to GH 3-part for so long gave me a great chance to learn how to grow in my setups and get familiar with the strain. I just checked with the master trimmer/weigher (Girlfriend :D) and she said atm roughly 2oz dried per plant but that is increasing do to the additives. Next grow will see the addition of dry Koolbloom along with liquid version and we will see how that goes. This is only the 2nd run in the basement and from what I can see the biggest yeild yet so we will see what happens to the average.

Thanks

I assume Koolbloom (dry and liquid) and Bushmaster are trying to do the same things?

[tinytoon]

FCC: it is wet then dry and I dont know but the NPK is different between the 2 and I will be trying it the next run.

Scott: kinda but then again no. KoolBloom is more like BigBud, it is suppose to increase bud size, yeilds, blah blah blah. Bushmaster is suppose to stop vertical growth and force horizontal growth (thats the Bush part) and jumpstart the flowering process. Bushmaster is given by 2 or 3 doses (I think) and Koolbloom is used during entire flowering period.

I can say that Koolbloom does make a difference in size, yeild, etc. Now to find out about the wet then dry formula.

[ForgetClassC]

Yeah, I knew it was one or the other, 50-50 chance and I lost. Either way, I've always wondered what it is supposed to do, seems like one is just a bloom booster and they didn't wanna come up with a different name, so why not say you gotta get both, lol.

-C

[tinytoon]

Welcome to week 7. Last week of full str nutes, next week we go to half str then week 9 is plain water. Speaking of water, after the rain we got yesterday I think the new project is going to be an ark!:whalephant:
Plants still look healthy and buds are about the best I have had yet but only thing bothering me atm is I forgot to buy more tomato cages before starting grow and didnt use the few I have so now we have allot of bending and heading for the floor. I go in everyday to "fluff" them up and kinda get the limbs that are underneath out to see some light. Major mistake I my part and will be going to garden shop for more cages but to late now and all I can really do is hope nothing breaks. See and all you guys think I know a shitload of info. I do read allot but anyone can overlook the obvious and there will be cages on them at flower flip time from now on. :thumbsup:
Tent is on it's last week and will be harvesting either Sat or Sun. Will put up some pics of them also as they turned out real nice. Just ordered a toy that should help with the harvest but I not letting cat out of bag yet, will be a surprize.
Hey Loc you should be done next week yes?? Can't wait to see them!

[byrdog55]

Yeah I had to tie mine up last time, should have thought about that this time. Oh well at least I have the temps stable at 77 and a carbon filter to kill the smell this time.

[tinytoon]

Ya I hear ya there. You concentrate on fixing problems you are having/had and fly right over the shit you need to do. I have actually started a list of things to do during grows so I can cut down on things I forget. The last thing I forgot besides cages was at the begining of this grow I forgot to recalibrate my tri-meter so as you can imagine I was trying to kill them from day 1 lol.

[byrdog55]

LOL, thats funny. :) The truth is though you got a bad a$$ room that you can tweek to perfection. I remembered to calibrate ph/EC meter and it was only off by .1 after 10 months of not being used. [Edit] I have to add though I was / have been with out smoke since July so I have less of an excuse.

Cheers

[tinytoon]

Mine was reading .7 low and wasn't good. Some stupid dummy didnt put it away correctly either :wtf:

[scottcc5s]

My hydro store told me I should calibrate my meter ever week? Is that BS?

Tiny, new pics coming soon?? :)

[tinytoon]

pics post in morning. Buds look awesome but I hate having them lay down like they are. I was dumb as hell not to get and use those friggin cages :icon506:
As for the meter Calibration I would hope that you dont have to do it that often but I guess your talking a hand held model, mine stays in the rez and dont come out till grow is over. He most ahve an overstock of Cal solution :yeahright:

[scottcc5s]

pics post in morning. Buds look awesome but I hate having them lay down like they are. I was dumb as hell not to get and use those friggin cages :icon506:
As for the meter Calibration I would hope that you dont have to do it that often but I guess your talking a hand held model, mine stays in the rez and dont come out till grow is over. He most ahve an overstock of Cal solution :yeahright:

Yep mine is hand held, might get one that stays in tank for next go around. Yep have lots of solution, pain in the butt to calc ever week.

[tinytoon]

Is it off every week?? If not your prob getting your own answer.

[tinytoon]

Late this week but better late than never.

[tinytoon]

The better late than never statement does not pertain to growing. In Hydro if you are LATE you will NEVER get what your looking for :jointsmile:

[scottcc5s]

Looking good, must smell good in the basement. I can see your concern about no cages, you have a good problem with some top heavy ladies. :)

[tinytoon]

The aroma that is in that room ........ if I could only bottle it :thumbsup:
I love the site of the heavy colas but everytime I go in that room 1 word comes to mind .........TIMBER!!!!! :chainsaw:

[LOC NAR on probation]

I got an investation. I found this little fartknocker humping my bud and I think he has a firend. What to do ?

[TerraPharma]

Threaten them with bathwater, or bait them out with T.P, or a hot chick...

[tinytoon]

Huh Huh did he say fart

[LOC NAR on probation]

I'm a week ahead of ya so me and the dynamic duo and papa smurf are having a trim party. First 3 pics are S.A.G.E. last 2 are Orange bud. Man do you get really wired out from handleing bud when you trim. Time to forget what I was oh yea trimming. Later

[tinytoon]

Great looking stuff Loc!! Can tell you care about your ladies :)

[ForgetClassC]

WE ARE FINALLY GOING TO SCORE!!!

-C

[tinytoon]

Just when you thought everything is going good and the world is my playground blah blah blah, just learned prob the most valuable info that there is!! Make sure the friggin controller box has power!!!!!!:wtf:
When I built this room I wanted it to serve my purpose but I didnt want to start any fires either so the outlet that controls the box (which in turn controls the pumps) is a GFI outlet, can anyone see where this is going, apparently some time between when I changed the res and now the outlet tripped. So atleast now I know why it seemed like they were not drinking very much! Best I can guess is prob tuesday or wednesday the dam thing tripped and BINGO no power. Also explains why they fell over so bad.
I feel like a complete dumbass for this to happen and not realize it till now. Last 3 days I go downstairs and think to myself that the water hasnt gone down. Please feel free to put a dunce cap on my avatar as I should be wearing 1 in RL also.:i feel stupid:

[tinytoon]

Well power is up and the plants are still there. Have a couple of tops that bent over drastically and waiting to see if stem was pinch completely or not. Once again I feel like an idiot for not finding this out sooner.

[scottcc5s]

Good to hear you caught it and things are back to normal. :)

[LOC NAR on probation]

Man I hate it when things like that happen. Cause I will be looking for the little things and wham a big one slaps ya. As an electrician I can tell you GFIC are good for people and pets BUT suck for any use other than the bathroom. I wire mine backwards when I want to be sure they don't trip but as soon as the inspector is gone we ripp them out. Now if they would at least make one that would reset itself it would be better.

What I have done is wire a big light in the room or even upstairs on the GFIC to let me know when the thing has tripped. Light stays on 24/7 and the circuit is working.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Forgot to ask have you heard of flower dragon ?

The guy at the hydro shop gave me a sample. It's a one part flower enhancer. On the website they give several ways to use it. Will let you know how it goes. I always like new stuff.