Here comes the big boys

[boulderbud5525]

Just heard through the hemp vine that the pony express dispensary in Larkspur is being bought by an amsterdam group. The state ho's in the capitol have sold us out again to big money. say goodbye to the local mom and pop shops with great colorado grown product. another corporate takeover of our free market system. boycott these wall mart dispensaries and support the local folks!

[cowgirl1]

Well if they do it like Wal-mart they will drop the prices so low that mom and pop will not be able to grow for those prices. Then poof mom and dad are gone. The small dispencaries will have the same problems. Big money rules.

The average person will go there because they will offer a very wide rang and the prices will be low, low, low. Till they are the only ones.

[TheReleafCenter]

Sorry, but if 5K in looming state fees is going to close your business down, it probably wasn't going to last much longer.

The Walmart analogy doesn't really work here because it assumes one company taking all of the market share, then unilaterally raising prices across the board once they had that control. Instead, you're going to see something closer to gas stations; a lot of independent owners and operators selling similar products and at a similar price.

[cowgirl1]

I was just talking to a friend about this......correct us if we are wrong. I thought there was something in the new law that states you have to be a resident for two years

[cowgirl1]

5k is the fee? I thought they had not decided the amount as of yet

[TheReleafCenter]

That's what they had laid out in the fiscal note. It hasn't been decided yet, but they don't have a lot of wiggle room when essentially the state's accountant gives them a figure.

Medical Marijuana Center $1,800
Optional Premises Cultivation $500
Infused Products Manufacturing $500
Key License for Employees $125
Support License for Employees $20
Employee Registration $10

Plus the $5000 bond. So if you're a dispensary with two grows, you're looking at roughly $7500.

[rightwinger]

5k is the fee? I thought they had not decided the amount as of yet


5K is not unreasonable--BUT--It was listed in the Denver post that the state licensing fee could be in the 10's of thousands of dollars--which would (we can assume) put smaller dispensories out of business overnight.

If the state licensing fee is set in the 10's of thousands--we must assume that this was a deliberate--under the table action--by lawmakers in this state to condone giant monopolies---thereby--severly limiting access and free market pricing competition to medical marijuana patients.

[rightwinger]

That's what they had laid out in the fiscal note. It hasn't been decided yet, but they don't have a lot of wiggle room when essentially the state's accountant gives them a figure.

Medical Marijuana Center $1,800
Optional Premises Cultivation $500
Infused Products Manufacturing $500
Key License for Employees $125
Support License for Employees $20
Employee Registration $10

Plus the $5000 bond. So if you're a dispensary with two grows, you're looking at roughly $7500.


The bond wouldn't be expensive and I hope you're right on the other figures--because they are reasonable. Smaller dispensories would be able to afford this.

Casino background checks for employees are approximately $100.00.

[TheReleafCenter]

5K is not unreasonable--BUT--It was listed in the Denver post that the state licensing fee could be in the 10's of thousands of dollars--which would (we can assume) put smaller dispensories out of business overnight.

If the state licensing fee is set in the 10's of thousands--we must assume that this was a deliberate--under the table action--by lawmakers in this state to condone giant monopolies---thereby--severly limiting access and free market pricing competition to medical marijuana patients.

From what I understand about the process, that's why they have these fiscal notes... so lawmakers can't just make up a number.

Here's a link to the numbers I listed: http://facethestate.com/files/HB1284_r3.pdf

[FlyinPolynesian]

From what I understand about the process, that's why they have these fiscal notes... so lawmakers can't just make up a number.

Here's a link to the numbers I listed: http://facethestate.com/files/HB1284_r3.pdf

Fiscal notes stop lawmakers from basically just pulling a number outta their ass. youʻre correct, cause we all know if not for these generally set numbers shit would get outta wack real quick(not like it already hasnʻt started)

[rightwinger]

Just heard through the hemp vine that the pony express dispensary in Larkspur is being bought by an amsterdam group. The state ho's in the capitol have sold us out again to big money. say goodbye to the local mom and pop shops with great colorado grown product. another corporate takeover of our free market system. boycott these wall mart dispensaries and support the local folks!


Under bill 1264 owners of dispensories have to be a resident of this state 2 years prior to opening a dispensory--or have they already changed that?

[TheReleafCenter]

Under bill 1264 owners of dispensories have to be a resident of this state 2 years prior to opening a dispensory--or have they already changed that?

I've heard that's one of the more blatantly unconstitutional provisions and should be easy to challenge.

[GratefulMeds]

Sorry, but if 5K in looming state fees is going to close your business down, it probably wasn't going to last much longer.

The Walmart analogy doesn't really work here because it assumes one company taking all of the market share, then unilaterally raising prices across the board once they had that control. Instead, you're going to see something closer to gas stations; a lot of independent owners and operators selling similar products and at a similar price.

I just heard from Corry the real number being passed around is $30,000.00, not everyone has that, plus city fees, plus paying for labeling add in more detailed accounting expenses. tell us some more fantasy figures, you think they can fund 1 agent for every 10 dispensaries on a 5 grand fee, think again my friend!
:thumbsup::jointsmile::wtf:

[GratefulMeds]

The bond wouldn't be expensive and I hope you're right on the other figures--because they are reasonable. Smaller dispensories would be able to afford this.

Casino background checks for employees are approximately $100.00.

the bond is $5000.00

[copobo]

the first 2 million in mmj sales taxes is allocated to fund the program.

the 5k, or 30k is a bond, not a fee. so when you don't pay your taxes, they close you down and take that.

[GratefulMeds]

the first 2 million in mmj sales taxes is allocated to fund the program.

the 5k, or 30k is a bond, not a fee. so when you don't pay your taxes, they close you down and take that.

the bond is 5 grand then comes the license fee which Corry say's looks like it will be 30K

[TurboALLWD]

the bond is 5 grand then comes the license fee which Corry say's looks like it will be 30K

Is there any news on when its going into effect? Particularly the caregiver bullshit, only sell to 5 patients to be specific.

[TheReleafCenter]

It's all speculation at this point...

[Justabloke]

I've heard that's one of the more blatantly unconstitutional provisions and should be easy to challenge.

Here's my take on it and call me an idealist if you must but we shouldn't have to go though the time and trouble to challange it. It shouldn't be there in the first place.

That said, I hope so.

[boulderbud5525]

Under bill 1264 owners of dispensories have to be a resident of this state 2 years prior to opening a dispensory--or have they already changed that?

It would be pretty easy to get one of the former owners to sign on as a partner in order to get around the residency requirement.

[Draconian]

I've heard that's one of the more blatantly unconstitutional provisions and should be easy to challenge.

Well I'm applying next week and I haven't lived there for 2 years. Does that not apply to me since it didn't pass yet?

[TheReleafCenter]

Well I'm applying next week and I haven't lived there for 2 years. Does that not apply to me since it didn't pass yet?

There is a provision that if you have residency by Dec of last year and file by Dec of this year, you're fine.

[Draconian]

There is a provision that if you have residency by Dec of last year and file by Dec of this year, you're fine.

Well in DEC of 08 I received my Colorado state drivers license and have my plates and registration in Colorado...does that mean I'm a resident now?

[TheReleafCenter]

Well in DEC of 08 I received my Colorado state drivers license and have my plates and registration in Colorado...does that mean I'm a resident now?

It does. From page 25 of the bill:

A PERSON WHO HAS NOT BEEN A RESIDENT OF COLORADO
5 FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE PERSON'S
6 APPLICATION; EXCEPT THAT FOR A PERSON WHO SUBMITS AN APPLICATION
7 FOR LICENSURE PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE BY DECEMBER 15, 2010, THIS
8 REQUIREMENT SHALL NOT APPLY TO THAT PERSON IF THE PERSON WAS A
9 RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF COLORADO ON DECEMBER 15, 2009.

[Draconian]

Thanks my man, your very helpful. Much appreciated.

[TheReleafCenter]

I'm just glad the hours I've spent pouring over this bill can help.

[Draconian]

I'm just glad the hours I've spent pouring over this bill can help.

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