View Full Version : Are clubs really not for Profit?
hiamps
05-16-2010, 05:56 PM
Can anyone do math? Most clubs pay $2000 for a pound, they sell 8th's for $60 hmmmm lets see. $2000 for a pound makes 128 8th's. 128 X 16=$7680.00. 7680-2000=$5680 per pound and how many pounds can a decent club sell? Want to get rich open a club. Don't forget those $25.00 clones....I agree with another poster...$30.00 an 8th is a much fairer price.
jamessr
05-16-2010, 06:52 PM
Can anyone do math? Most clubs pay $2000 for a pound, they sell 8th's for $60 hmmmm lets see. $2000 for a pound makes 128 8th's. 128 X 16=$7680.00. 7680-2000=$5680 per pound and how many pounds can a decent club sell? Want to get rich open a club. Don't forget those $25.00 clones....I agree with another poster...$30.00 an 8th is a much fairer price.
I used the # 30 as a compassionate price which was in line with our spirit of the law....
Most cannabis at 2000 a lb. is shit medicine from left over cali. crap....sorry but, it is the truth...most cali. crap I can't engage in because it is just garbage to me...it offers me side effects that locals don't.
Most of nec420 purchase price would not be in the 2000 range....none of the club members I know of whom are local would even be involved in such dishonesty....meaning that they would not just unload garbage for patients to consume....
Please don't use my suggestion in your arguments please. Thank you.
psychocat
05-16-2010, 07:19 PM
It all depends on who is doing the book keeping ;):D:thumbsup:
killerweed420
05-16-2010, 08:49 PM
First you have to understand what a nonprofit company is in America. Its really absolutely meaningless to call a company nonprofit. They're still entitled to make just as much money as they want. The only requirement is they donate something to the cayse they are representing. That can mean anything.
So yes if you file the paperwork, dispensaries are just as much a nonprofit ia as the American Cancer Society or any of the other thousands of nonprofits are.
justpics
05-16-2010, 10:29 PM
non profit (not getting into 501C) just means that the purpose of forming the business was not primarily to make profit, but for some other venture. In the case of dispensaries I would imagine it to be something along the lines of, "...is formed for the purpose of providing safe access to mmj IAW 69.51A and all Washington State laws...etc..."
Just because their donation price is set above their purchase price doesn't mean that the difference is kept as profit. Non profits use that margin to cover their business expenses, pay employees, and accomplish the objective for which they were formed.
No one sells good indoor organic meds for $2,000 a pound in WA. Its closer to 2X that number or more for the best. If you tried to charge $30 an 1/8 for that you would lose money.
demoreal
05-16-2010, 11:00 PM
just like killa said. non-profit does not mean you can't make a living.
Weezing
05-17-2010, 01:25 AM
Can anyone do math? Most clubs pay $2000 for a pound, they sell 8th's for $60 hmmmm lets see. $2000 for a pound makes 128 8th's. 128 X 16=$7680.00. 7680-2000=$5680 per pound and how many pounds can a decent club sell? Want to get rich open a club. Don't forget those $25.00 clones....I agree with another poster...$30.00 an 8th is a much fairer price.
You seem to be well up on going price and good at math. Don't let your timidity stop you from becoming filthy rich. Open your own club. Set a donation of $50 for an 8th of very high quality organic meds, or $25 for commercially farmed but still high quality buds and I am sure you'll be stealing patients left and right, making you a millionaire in no time! Let me know when you open and where you rented space for your club.
Club420
05-17-2010, 04:07 AM
Anyone who thinks they will get rich doing what we do, and provide proper meds and a decent atmosphere for patients, will quickly wish they had opened a 7-11.
Spend five minutes in a retail business class - or take a tour of our club - and you will be simply astounded at how quickly expenses add up. It's mind-boggling.
It's not a gateway to riches if you serve patients. It only works that way if you serve yourself.
By the way, only California and Canadian outdoor is in that $2000 price range. Local, high-quality, organic meds are at least 50% more - minimum. It's easy to pay over $1000 for a 1/4 pound of the finest buds. We do it all the time. And we get meds from patients - not dealers. They don't have 25 pounds to get rid of. They don't even have 25 ounces. They have four or five ounces - and they usually need money. So, we take care of our patients - on both ends of the equation.
When it's grown with skill and care, a few ounces of meds has more healing value than any bail of hay you can ever haul up from out of state. Anyone who argues that has either never had good meds or they sell California schwag for a living.
WashougalWonder
05-17-2010, 11:56 AM
Interesting to hear of the pricing. Back in the 80-90's street price for a quarter was $40. It was not as good as today's meds, not even close.
As I have said in earlier posts, the Club has changed my mind and I feel they are indeed for the patient. Mind you I am not a member, too far away, but I am in contact with members and what I hear is good for the patient.
Even if they did 'get rich' off of it, well what the hell, someone has to do it. If you aren't growing you own, you risk a great deal, and Club420 in my opinion has helped without regard for their personal risks.
Let's quit bitching at them, if you don't have something positive to say, then just let it go. We all have a common cause. Let us not forget that.
killerweed420
05-17-2010, 05:32 PM
If I was a dispensary I would make some donations to local charities, maybe to local nonproft organizations that are fighting the bigotted cannabis and hemp laws. Or better yet the local LEAP foundation. With any luck you could get a subpeona and get there representative into the courtroom to be able to get there viewpoint out there.
psychocat
05-17-2010, 07:52 PM
I find it niave that anyone would believe that something with a title containing the word "business" would be doing what they do without making a profit.
jamessr
05-18-2010, 02:03 AM
If I was a dispensary I would make some donations to local charities, maybe to local nonproft organizations that are fighting the bigotted cannabis and hemp laws. Or better yet the local LEAP foundation. With any luck you could get a subpeona and get there representative into the courtroom to be able to get there viewpoint out there.
Ya donate money ya made from drug sales to LEO, then when they want to make waves, they get caught in a real funny position...:D
leadmagnet
05-18-2010, 02:26 AM
The whole "not for profit" stipulation as it relates to medical cannabis exists only because we allowed the prohibitionists to dictate the parameters.
WashougalWonder
05-18-2010, 11:41 AM
The whole "not for profit" stipulation as it relates to medical cannabis exists only because we allowed the prohibitionists to dictate the parameters.
No pooh!
jamessr
05-19-2010, 05:33 AM
No pooh!
How about tigger WW?
My daughter asked me one day why they found tigger in the toilet?? I responded,he was looking for pooh obviously now wasn't he.:D
gypski
05-19-2010, 08:27 PM
If I was a dispensary I would make some donations to local charities, maybe to local nonproft organizations that are fighting the bigotted cannabis and hemp laws. Or better yet the local LEAP foundation. With any luck you could get a subpeona and get there representative into the courtroom to be able to get there viewpoint out there.
How about the PAL Little League and Babe Ruth Leagues. It would be a lot better use of money then the DARE propaganda program. Or other youth programs that promote the truth, and honesty in life's dealings and positive programs that don't malign classes of people due to disability. :D
jamessr
05-19-2010, 08:38 PM
When I said donate to leo, I meant to their budget so they are using drug money to operate with....so when they get all upitty, you point out they used illgotten funds to operate on, which should shut them up real fast like...
Ruse the rusers:thumbsup:
psychocat
05-19-2010, 10:27 PM
There already is an mmj access point that does support HIV/AIDS peer to peer support groups, Recovery(drug and alcohol) support groups, SOS strength over Speed, AA, hepatitis, and survivors of childhood sexual assault....[url]www.dunsheehouse.org
Call me an old cynic but ......
I wonder how much charity is down to the words "tax deductable" ? :D
killerweed420
05-19-2010, 11:29 PM
Dale is this you?lol
From Dale Rogers head of the Dunshee House/Compassion - where you get authorized AND your meds all within the same organization (http://douglashiatt.com/)
jamessr
05-20-2010, 08:08 AM
Dale is this you?lol
From Dale Rogers head of the Dunshee House/Compassion - where you get authorized AND your meds all within the same organization (http://douglashiatt.com/)
My question is? did steve really do that?? If so damn dude.WTF? Ratting on people ain't cool at all....I wonder who else was labeled??:mad:
killerweed420
05-20-2010, 06:32 PM
But isn't that the nature of greed? Everybody ratting on everyone else to try and get an edge. There's plenty of business out there for everyone. We don't need to hurt the movement by ratting on each other.
Hard to tell with Steve. Old drunks can be a bit unreliable.lol
I hope not. There's no need for it.
WashougalWonder
05-21-2010, 12:01 PM
When I said donate to leo, I meant to their budget so they are using drug money to operate with....so when they get all upitty, you point out they used illgotten funds to operate on, which should shut them up real fast like...
Ruse the rusers:thumbsup:
LOL, bet they wouldn't take it to begin with for that very reason.
jamessr
05-21-2010, 03:54 PM
LOL, bet they wouldn't take it to begin with for that very reason.
Generally WW, I speak from experience....not half cocked brain scams....it does work by the way. One just has to be prudent about it.:D
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