Need help desperately!!! VERY desperately!

[Kataztrofy]

Heres the deal...


I got a possession charge and am doing a memorandum agreement. I have to give a clean UA before the 25th of this month... (9 days) Ive been completely clean for about 2 weeks now... I took a couple hits the day before the 2 weeks, and was clean for about a week before then as well... I have taken two home tests and failed both...

Im 26 about 220 and used to be an Extreme smoker ( 3-8 blunts a day)


what can I do?

also since this is court appointed... even though I have to go to a lab to pee, what are the chances that the pee test will be supervised?

[Kataztrofy]

10 views and no replies? Someone please f'in help!

[satman]

dude that sucks.
being its a legal issue means they will most likely watch you piss.
i would go to urineluck.com / spectrum labs and check out xxl carbo drink and refrain from herb and drink a shit load of water.
i have also heard that a drink called magnum is trust worthy.
not much help man im sorry but being watched kind of screws you.
check out that site.
i have read that some have used the whizzinator or the urinator while being observed.
if your not watched or can get them to turn their back i would sub with a friends clean sample but that might not be an option unless you let them watch for awhile and dont piss, maybe tell them you got stage fright or something.

[Kataztrofy]

thanks for the input... man i dont know... these home-drug test are digging a whole in my pocket... What really sucks... I got busted for a gram... <--- RIDICULOUS!

[Kataztrofy]

doesnt the whizzinator or whatever make a noise while functioning?

[Burnt Toast]

i would go to urineluck.com / spectrum labs and check out xxl carbo drink and refrain from herb and drink a shit load of water.
i have also heard that a drink called magnum is trust worthy.
All detox drinks are a big scam to seperate the credulous from their cash. When they do work, they "work" because of the "shit load of water" that youre required by the instructions to drink with them. Its nothing but dilution in a bottle.

Why waste money on a bottled diluter when you can accomplish the same thing for $$$ less by following the guidelines outlined in the Dilution sticky thread?

[satman]

All detox drinks are a big scam to seperate the credulous from their cash. When they do work, they "work" because of the "shit load of water" that youre required by the instructions to drink with them. Its nothing but dilution in a bottle.

Why waste money on a bottled diluter when you can accomplish the same thing for $$$ less by following the guidelines outlined in the Dilution sticky thread?

i dont disagree at all on the scam.
i was thinking he is 2 weeks clean so it might be work to his benefit.
i am a heavy smoker and years ago i drank test free,tasted like unwashed ass granted i was 2 weeks clean at the time and i did pass.
used the same stuff a few years later but was not clean for 2 weeks and failed .

[satman]

thanks for the input... man i dont know... these home-drug test are digging a whole in my pocket... What really sucks... I got busted for a gram... <--- RIDICULOUS!

of herb ?

[Burnt Toast]

i dont disagree at all on the scam.
i was thinking he is 2 weeks clean so it might be work to his benefit.
Again, why waste the money (in turn, feeding those scam artists and keeping them in business) on something that accomplishes nothing different than whats accomplished with just vitamin B2 and water?

[satman]

Again, why waste the money (in turn, feeding those scam artists and keeping them in business) on something that accomplishes nothing different than whats accomplished with just vitamin B2 and water?

no arguement here.
im not up on dilution very much but wasnt aware that the drinks were just dilution methods. i myself have only used them twice passed 1 failed 1.
the man needed someone to talk to so i put forth my 0.02 based on my exp with those type of products
totally agree with your point- F'em

[Kataztrofy]

Again, why waste the money (in turn, feeding those scam artists and keeping them in business) on something that accomplishes nothing different than whats accomplished with just vitamin B2 and water?

I was hoping you would wander in my thread... thanks dude...

I understand what you're saying.... now the question i have... what determines a urine sample to be TOO diluted??? and in the dilution process is the objective to dilute ur pee just enough to get the toxins below the required threshhold??? Are there other things tested in the pee like other natural chemicals our bodies emit?? Or will the test only search for the drug??

I guess what I am asking is... theoretically could you pass a drug test with just colored water if there was no gravity test??

[Kataztrofy]

of herb ?

yea man.... the cop was a dick

[Kataztrofy]

Another question... do the home tests actually test the creatine levels too or do only labs do that?

[Burnt Toast]

what determines a urine sample to be TOO diluted??? Labs check the creatinine and specific gravity in determining an overdiluted sample. Samples are ruled "too-dilute" when the creatinine level is between 2 - 20 mg/dL, and the specific gravity is between 1.0010 - 1.0030.


and in the dilution process is the objective to dilute ur pee just enough to get the toxins below the required threshhold??? Thats correct, all while keeping your creatinine and SG numbers within limits.

BTW, THC is non-toxic so it is erroneous to label THC a 'toxin'.


Are there other things tested in the pee like other natural chemicals our bodies emit?? Or will the test only search for the drug??

I guess what I am asking is... theoretically could you pass a drug test with just colored water if there was no gravity test?? Water with yellow food coloring will pass a drug assay if no specimen integrity checks are performed. But dont expect this to be the case for your next U/A, as integrity checks have become SOP in most lab tests.

[Burnt Toast]

Another question... do the home tests actually test the creatine levels too or do only labs do that? Instant test kits are available that feature panels for creatinine and SG (in either dip card or EZCup forms). Do a Google search for drug testing kits

[Kataztrofy]

Instant test kits are available that feature panels for creatinine and SG (in either dip card or EZCup forms). Do a Google search for drug testing kits

Ok and to ensure that my creatine and gravity level is "acceptable"... what steps should I take?

[Burnt Toast]

Ok and to ensure that my creatine and gravity level is "acceptable"... what steps should I take?Read this thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-testing/1147-dilution-tips-tricks-guidelines.html

[Kataztrofy]

One more question... about how long does it take for court ordered tests to get back results?

[gr8fulgrl]

Dude, I know it's very stressful. Being 2 weeks clean I think you will be fine just following the dillution method. I just passed a Labcorp drug test being only 1 week clean. Look up my thread and read it.

[webdox]

One more question... about how long does it take for court ordered tests to get back results?

As long as it takes.

[Kataztrofy]

Dude, I know it's very stressful. Being 2 weeks clean I think you will be fine just following the dillution method. I just passed a Labcorp drug test being only 1 week clean. Look up my thread and read it.

thanks for the words of encouragement... I just dont know what to do... this shit is more than stressful!
Did you pass using dilution too?

[goodwis]

You excrete thx from your system by peeing, poo poo, ejaculate, crying and sweating.
Another thing I always Implement during such a time is I find a health club with a steam room. So do this. Go everyday between now and then and spend at least an hour a day sweating your ass off in steam room.
I usually go for hour day leading up to it. Like 10 minutes in, five minutes out 10 minutes in. You will sweat like crazy but it is moving metabolite out of your system and it is something you can do in addition to drinking fluids alone.
Sweating plus peeing will remove more than peeing alone.
Keep drinking fluids.
In addition, another benefit is after you leave the steam room for the day, you have boosted your metabolism for the day, so your body will be burning calories thru the day. Every drop of urine and sweat counts.

[Thereis]

Heavy exercise, enough to make you sweat. Exercise bike, or other types.

I did 24 minutes on the life cycle every other day.

On the off days I did 31 push ups, 100 belly busters, and 100 sideways leglifts. Eight sets of them in a row.

I also did the dry sauna for betweek 25 and 35 minutes.

Take metamucil, it is water soluble fiber and absords the metabolites so they can not leach from the bowels back into the body.

Stop exercise two or three days before the test.;

[Burnt Toast]

Another thing I always Implement during such a time is I find a health club with a steam room. So do this. Go everyday between now and then and spend at least an hour a day sweating your ass off in steam room.
I usually go for hour day leading up to it. Like 10 minutes in, five minutes out 10 minutes in. You will sweat like crazy but it is moving metabolite out of your system and it is something you can do in addition to drinking fluids alone.
Sweating plus peeing will remove more than peeing alone.




Saunas and sweating doesnt really help much because very little THC is excreted thru sweat. You can sweat up enough to fill a town water tower, yet the amount of THC being excreted from sweat is miniscule. The rest of them is being excreted via the urine and bowels.

[webdox]

Another thing I always Implement during such a time is I find a health club with a steam room. So do this. Go everyday between now and then and spend at least an hour a day sweating your ass off in steam room.

This is not correct. Trying to sweat in out in a sauna/steamroom is of no use really. Sweating in a sauna != burning fat. Spend that hour doing even low impact cardio... now you have something.

[Thereis]

I too am waiting. It is difficult and I have a lot on the line too.

Mine is pre-employment and although I do not really need the money, it is very important in other ways for me. I will lose a lot if they do not retest with urine alone. I probably did not need to dilute as much as I did.

Your test has a lot on the line, so I wish you and all the others who are going through their little hells the best.

I have decided that as long as I am in the job market, I will remain clean. When I am out for good, then it is another story. I will smoke the best at that time, until then, clean as a whistle.

With current technology and methods the tests can be manipulated or beaten. But nothing stays the same. Who is to say that hair tests will not become the norm by next year. Or that they will not come up with something even more invasive and be able to see if you have used in the last year. That may be coming.

I have learned that my last three weeks have been spent in excruciating mental agony. Nothing is worth that. So good luck to you. There is only one way to end this problem in the future and that is staying clean.

[gr8fulgrl]

Yes, i passed using dillution. Good LUCk!!!