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goodwis
05-13-2010, 06:34 PM
OK in a nutshell, have not smoked since MArdi Gras or so or around 80-90 days. Not a chronic and to be honest not the least bit concerrned about it showing up. Did two home screens two months ago and passed. I do however take a legal prescription of pain meds. Although I have it legally, I just assume it not show up at all so I can explain myself. Just assume have a nice and clean test comeback with no problems or red flags at all.

So I used Active - X. Testing center was a Labcorp. My first time ever doing this, and it could not have been more easy.

Walked in at 1030AM, was back in my car at 1045am. GOt it last night and used a warmer to warm it up, The warmer that came with it took about 20 minutes to get temp to 98-100.I then quickly stuck it under my ball sack within two pairs of tighty whitys. I wanted to be comfortable with the process, so I literelly and on accident fell asleep with the 3 ounce Active X in my crotch.

Woke up about 6 hours later and the temp was hovering between 96-100 according to the color code. Changed clothes this morning to two pairs of tighty whitey and blue jeans and during the process the temp dropped to about 96. I used another warmer and within a 5 minutes the gage read again about 100.

Here is where my only question/concern comes in. I had the 3 ounce bottle, and there was maybe enough room in bottle to add about 1/4 of an ounce of fluid. I could easily hear as I walked a sloshing sound, not very loud, but if all was quiet, myself and others could hear as I walked. This is what made me nervous. So I added about 1/4 of an ounce of water to the premixxed fluid to fil the bottle and eliminate the sound. Im talking no more than 1/4 of a ounce to a 3 ounce container. Then I shook it like crazy.and it solved the swishing problem. My question is could such a small amount dilute the whole sample??? I seriously doubt it just want some feedback.

This is my first time, So I intended to just before walking into the Labcorp, to have the temp about 100, take the warmer off, reinsert under my massive ball sack and walked in. I wanted it at 100 because what if I had to wait 30 minutes or so, I knew temp would only go down not up, so I wanted a little cushion. by erxperimenting, i learned that leaving the warmer on too long would cause the temp to go over 100 and thats no good. I knew if I could get temp to 100, that it would easily stay within 96-98 for the next half hour in my crotch. I used two pairs of tightly whiteys just to make sure that bottle was not going anywhere. I did not want to fool with tape or anything else cause I did not want to make any sounds.

Walked in and I was only person in the place, so I was handled ASAP. Took the lady about five minutes to prepare paperwork. Within 10 minutes of walking in, I was in backroom. The lady asked me to empty my pockets and walked me into the bathroom. She left bathroom and closed the door. I went inside the stall and closed the stall door so I had two closed doors between me and worker.

She told me not to flush and because I had been drinking so much fluids in case I would have to pee for real, I was concerned that she would compare my urine sample color with what remained in the toliet and see it did not quite match up. This is why I went with the 3 ounce bottle instead of the 2 ounce bottle. I poured in about 2 oz into my sample cup, and the other 1 oz into the toilet to give it some added color. I had to pee real bad but did not pee too much cause i did not want it to be such a wide color gap.

so I filled up cup. My Active X temp gage read 96-98, and when I poured it in, the sample temp gage came back about 94-96 so there seemed to be about a 1-2 degree temp gap between the two bottles. Anyone else ever notice this?

After generating my fake sample, I returned the now empty active X bottle to the crotch. Did not flush. I walked out of bathroom, the lady walked back in, walked into toilet and could not have flushed it any faster. HAnded me my phone and keys asn said all done and have a nice day.

It could not have been any easier. But hear are my tips and I have only done it one time but thought Id share...

FIgure out the best time to go when you can get in and out of there quickly. You may live in a big city and its always busy, Like when I lived in Atlanta, and took a couple of test, you always had to wait at least 20-40 minutes.
One idea other that calling and asking is just hang out in parking lot till cars empty out. Mid morning (10-11am) and mid afternoon 230-330pm is best.
The importance to this is unless you have a heating pad that does not overheat, you dont want to be stuck in there too long and risk losing temperture to your sample.

Most important tip is do not appear nervous. Say as little as possible to staff.
Smile and look relaxed. I bring a newspaper and read or today pretended to read, hold it up, no one can see your face.
The lady that collected my sample did not care that my temp on sample read about 95-96 it was in range, and did not care there may have been a color differentation between my sample and toilet. I think main reason why is cause I gave her no reason to be concered, I came in, did what I was told and got the hell out of there. I did not seem nervous to her although I was about to shit a gold brick on the inside.
Remember these people do hundreds of these things, and 99 out of 100 are the same old thing so you act like just another guy who appears like the last thing on your mind is a drug screen then it will go very smoot for you.

goodwis
05-14-2010, 05:01 PM
Could Someone answer my concern please?
Like I said I used premixxed 3 ounce of Active-x
I could hear swishing sound when I walked I had premixxed bottle in my crotch. I was worried labtech may hear it. Bottle contained 3 oz or 18 teaspoons of premixed active-x, I added about 1.5 teaspoons of tapwater to eliminate swishing sound? Directions for all other powder synthetic urine says adding tap water is perfectly fine. So I think I am fine. Should I be worried???
Substitution went flawless and temp on my lab bottle read 96 degrees. Submitted at labcorp.
Someone please respond
can't wait to get this behind me so I can smoke!

Deige
05-14-2010, 05:22 PM
Could Someone answer my concern please?
Like I said I used premixxed 3 ounce of Active-x
I could hear swishing sound when I walked I had premixxed bottle in my crotch. I was worried labtech may hear it. Bottle contained 3 oz or 18 teaspoons of premixed active-x, I added about 1.5 teaspoons of tapwater to eliminate swishing sound? Directions for all other powder synthetic urine says adding tap water is perfectly fine. So I think I am fine. Should I be worried???
Substitution went flawless and temp on my lab bottle read 96 degrees. Submitted at labcorp.
Someone please respond
can't wait to get this behind me so I can smoke!

I'm sure your tests results will let you know, we can't tell you for sure if your good or not. Adding the extra water was not a good idea and in my opinion, your probably fucked. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but all I can say is good luck.

goodwis
05-14-2010, 06:54 PM
Even if it was only 1 teaspoon and directions for powder form say add tap water? Can you elaborate? Maybe I should have just added 1 teaspoon of my own diluted urine?
Dude I hope your wrong.

Burnt Toast
05-14-2010, 08:46 PM
Ive taken dozens of U/As at various LabCorp facilities over the course of many years and never encountered an instance in which the facility did not secure the water sources.

goodwis
05-14-2010, 09:30 PM
Ive taken dozens of U/As at various LabCorp facilities over the course of many years and never encountered an instance in which the facility did not secure the water sources.

Your right and where i went it was also no water available to me.
I Took the 18 teaspoons(or 3 oz) of already premixed ACtive X and added about 1 and a half teaspoons of tapwater at my house. I did this because you could hear a water swishing sound from the bottle as I walked and I could not eliminate it otherwise. I was trying to eliminate the sound to avoid being detected. In hindsight it was not necessary for me to do this. The tech hardly even paid attention to me.

From Brandall1 TRUTH BEHIND DRUGSCREENING...he said
ALL lab samples are "screened". They know that 99% of all of the tests are going to come up negative, so they hit them with the same $1.10 test that an onsite kit uses. If it comes out negative, it's reported negative and never sent to GC/MS. If it's positive, it heads over to GC/MS for quantitive verification.

SO if in the lab where they collected my sample, if the above is true, I am sure my sample will pass so hopefully it will get the 5 panel dip card, and then be tossed afterwards and not make it to further testing.

Can anyone confirm?

Deige
05-14-2010, 10:21 PM
Your right and where i went it was also no water available to me.
I Took the 18 teaspoons(or 3 oz) of already premixed ACtive X and added about 1 and a half teaspoons of tapwater at my house. I did this because you could hear a water swishing sound from the bottle as I walked and I could not eliminate it otherwise. I was trying to eliminate the sound to avoid being detected. In hindsight it was not necessary for me to do this. The tech hardly even paid attention to me.

From Brandall1 TRUTH BEHIND DRUGSCREENING...he said
ALL lab samples are "screened". They know that 99% of all of the tests are going to come up negative, so they hit them with the same $1.10 test that an onsite kit uses. If it comes out negative, it's reported negative and never sent to GC/MS. If it's positive, it heads over to GC/MS for quantitive verification.

SO if in the lab where they collected my sample, if the above is true, I am sure my sample will pass so hopefully it will get the 5 panel dip card, and then be tossed afterwards and not make it to further testing.

Can anyone confirm?

I didn't realize this was a powder mixture, I was under the impression that this was ready to use synthetic. Either way it still doesn't change my answer from above... We cannot predict if you will pass or not. I know you want piece of mind but that's like asking us to predict the lottery. Its just not going to happen.

goodwis
05-18-2010, 11:17 PM
Just got the word I passed!!!
Start new job in two weeks.
Labcorp plus agent x works like a charm