View Full Version : Light Emitting Plasma ?!?
TerraPharma
05-13-2010, 04:12 PM
Has anyone tried this? There's a company called Luxim showing at 'lightfair' in vegas.
It seems to be a pretty new technology, but wow, pretty compelling.
The coolest thing is that the lamp itself is a little bigger than a tic tac.
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Generating 73 lumens per watt represents a radical efficiency improvement of the Tesla series, reducing energy consumption of a standard 400 watt metal halide system by up to 50 percent. At today's power costs, this means an annual savings of approximately $145 per fixture.
The Tesla 400 fixture has a rated life of 50,000 hours, and a color temperature of 5500 CCT (very close to natural sunlight), and a full spectrum CRI of 80, supporting excellent quality of light performance.
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TerraPharma
05-13-2010, 07:52 PM
Here's how big the 400w MH bulb is.
drudown11
05-13-2010, 08:11 PM
that looks pretty promising.... it looks like cooling the bulb down wouldnt be much of a problem.
Daddynobucks
05-13-2010, 09:25 PM
Damn you; now I have a lot more research to do in a field I know
very little about
Daddy
Charbud
05-13-2010, 09:42 PM
These lights are going to be nuts!
YouTube - Proto plasma growlight @ High Times cup 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrKO1tnNBY)
That video says it all. They are full spectrum bit give out 6000K and i read they are currently developing the red spectrum Version !! cant wait
TerraPharma
05-13-2010, 10:11 PM
Damn you; now I have a lot more research to do in a field I know
very little about
Daddy
LOL, I thought the same thing.
The site has a couple of pretty cool vids, plus available products.
Light Emitting Plasma by LUXIM Corporation (http://www.luxim.com/)
khyberkitsune
05-13-2010, 10:50 PM
Played with them when they were first in development. Cooling them is not the problem, it's the ballast driving the bulb that gets really hot and fails. The bulb itself will last a long time as it's based on induction and not electrodes, but the driving ballast has issues.
They're meant more for visual applications and not horticultural applications.
MEDEDCANNABIS
05-14-2010, 03:02 AM
Played with them when they were first in development. Cooling them is not the problem, it's the ballast driving the bulb that gets really hot and fails. The bulb itself will last a long time as it's based on induction and not electrodes, but the driving ballast has issues.
They're meant more for visual applications and not horticultural applications.
so is the ballast too powerful for the bulb? explain further please. and do you see advancment opportunities with this tech.
khyberkitsune
05-14-2010, 09:11 AM
so is the ballast too powerful for the bulb? explain further please. and do you see advancment opportunities with this tech.
No, the ballast just gets too hot due to the all in one design. This wouldn't be an issue if this had a remote ballast, but trying to cool the entire unit as a whole is pretty hard, especially given their design. As for advancement, the induction lamp is an old technology, just like the LED, and is constantly improving. I see potential for advancement, but there are many things that need to be overcome before it becomes viable at higher powers.
MEDEDCANNABIS
05-15-2010, 04:01 AM
thanks khyber,
ill be watching this with interest. led's had me for a minute but the the cost effectiveness was not interesting. not to mention from what i have heard they are less effective in flower. always learning though.
meded is a hell of a drug...chapelle
khyberkitsune
05-15-2010, 04:10 AM
thanks khyber,
ill be watching this with interest. led's had me for a minute but the the cost effectiveness was not interesting. not to mention from what i have heard they are less effective in flower. always learning though.
meded is a hell of a drug...chapelle
From what I'm seeing, they're not ineffective in flowering at all if they're properly used, and you have enough blue light to help with weight production. That's why I made my panels with the top-bin 1w diodes instead of the bottom-bin ones you'll find in all the cheaper panels, plus boosted my blue count. MUCH better results. Stra8outtaweed can tell you as well, his have more blue than typical lights and he gets much better yields than comparable panels with less blue.
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