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LetsSeeYa

05-12-2010, 08:43 PM

Ok i just wrote for an hour to begin my outdoor grow and was booted from the site which to everything i wrote. shit man:wtf:

Here we go i guess. lol I have three plants that i have re vegged from my indoor of last year. I was inspired by Rusty's amazing work, and also iv grown Bonsai for 16 years now. So, this just made sense to me. Why not take advantage of something that is already in front of you.

So, they are over 2 months in veg now and looking well so far. One better then the other two, but once they are in the ground im sure they will flourish. I re potted each plant over 2 months ago and while doing so, i cut off each side and also the bottom of their root ball. Then i used some organic MG to put on the bottom's of their same pots, put the plants in and filled in around them.

Now that they have filled out there pots, i have re potted again, but left the root ball and bigger pots to get them as big as possible. I will show pic's of when i began and also what they currently look like. I also will have friends to join them, but there not worth showing pics of the younger ones at this time. Funny as the Edna looks the best and the last one to be re potted, but i believe it was getting more side light, which made the branch growth spread out more. Also i believe it was the way i trimmed the branches off. The current pic's will show this. Also, something Rusty pointed out, but was to late this time. WW, Wrecked Homicide and others are in the friends group, which are all femed.:hippy:

Strains in order

Edna

NL#5

NL# x Skunk #1, later pic will come for this as its veggin now

Any questions are welcome:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-12-2010, 09:24 PM

Ok, here are what they look like after a couple months in veg. I will try an keep them in order i put them in above.:thumbsup: 3-13 the first pic's were taken and these today:jointsmile:pretty good growth for only using buds to start out with, the plants used the leaves all up.

Pic's go

1. All the family
2. Edna
3. Edna's bud sites all over, thinking Scrog maybe if it gets tall enough
4. NL#5, flushed it today as its a bit yellow, best strain and hope to clone for winter grow. Great for pain.
5. Plant getting better after Fim. Most are this size, not in thread yet, but small one im nursing.lol

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LetsSeeYa

05-12-2010, 09:45 PM

Geez man i did not even enter that other thread, i was waiting to post the pic's so not sure how it made it here. I really hope a mod. stops by here soon, :wtf:

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headshake

05-12-2010, 11:01 PM

you know i'm along for the ride!

-shake

busybee

05-12-2010, 11:04 PM

LetsSeeYa

05-12-2010, 11:08 PM

I had to post more pics to separate this thread from the other which i do not have a clue how it got posted. But i liked this pic so here ya go:hippy:

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LetsSeeYa

05-12-2010, 11:14 PM

hi letsseeya,no Q's...yet!they're looking good man,i'm 2/3wks into re-veg and was going to it outside,but my greenhouse is'nt ready and the daylight hrs are not long enough yet,so may just finish it indoors! i'll be keeping my beady eye on this 1 !!

Hey Bee thanks for stopping by man:rasta:I need to get this thread away from the other one. If your veggin like me ya might want to put it outside. I saw a re veg on a different site that turned into this giant bush:thumbsup:

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StickyBuds1987

05-13-2010, 04:26 AM

looks good man good luck :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

dmcefc

05-13-2010, 10:07 AM

Hey Bee thanks for stopping by man:rasta:I need to get this thread away from the other one. If your veggin like me ya might want to put it outside. I saw a re veg on a different site that turned into this giant bush:thumbsup:

:rasta:

Looking good Letseeya ,like you said once your babies go in the ground they are going to explode with growth.

I just threw my indoors(16/8) to outside as soon as the weather was ok and we were above the 12 hour mark and it didn't affect my girls at all.

Good Growin Mate.

LetsSeeYa

05-13-2010, 02:45 PM

you know i'm along for the ride!

-shake

Hey Shake, glad you made it in here. Without the Internet, ya sure didn't miss anything, thats for sure:thumbsup:, plus it would just be wrong if ya weren't along for the ride:hippy:

looks good man good luck :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

Thanks a lot Sticky, glad ya joined the go-round:jointsmile:

Looking good Letseeya ,like you said once your babies go in the ground they are going to explode with growth.

I just threw my indoors(16/8) to outside as soon as the weather was ok and we were above the 12 hour mark and it didn't affect my girls at all.

Well i used to start everything outside, but with the re veg and all, i took advantage and got seeds started early too. I had most of them outside till it got really cold here for about a week, so put them back under some light till it gets stable. Dont wanna freeze them.

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JungleSuperstar

05-13-2010, 05:34 PM

looooking goooood......:stoned:

ill be keeping my eye on this thread my man seeing as your full of useful info:D could learn a thing or two and im looking forward to seeing ur outcome

xxMrGreenThumbx

05-13-2010, 05:56 PM

looks nice letsseeya.. Certainly saves on buyin mor seeds.. I myt av 2 try it.. it b gud 2 c the out cum.. So ther vegging wif buds stil on em.. Wt woz the smoke lyk b4 hand?x

LetsSeeYa

05-14-2010, 02:41 PM

looks nice letsseeya.. Certainly saves on buyin mor seeds.. I myt av 2 try it.. it b gud 2 c the out cum.. So ther vegging wif buds stil on em.. Wt woz the smoke lyk b4 hand?x

It was premo man, some of the best iv ever tried. Help my pain for the most part, the nl#5 is the best, but the others help as well.

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LetsSeeYa

05-14-2010, 11:39 PM

Well most are out and getting ready to be put in the ground:thumbsup: They are in a good place to get accustom to being outside, they are mostly shaded in the afternoon, but direct sun light about 2 hours before sun set. The rest will be up soon. Everything is going well so far:hippy:

Pic 1. Re vegged plants

Pic. 2 bigger seedlings

Pic. 3 Skunk x NL in box vegging w/ 500w cfl

Pic. 4 Smaller seedlings, closer to the crib to keep an eye on them

Pic. 5 Just wild flower i liked

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irydyum

05-15-2010, 06:02 PM

Kinda ironic, here I am reading through what you are growing and I have a feeling I may know where some of your genetics were born:D

Also strange, I had a stash of old G-13 Labs Skunk1/NL so I popped a few. I have gifted a couple of them away already, but I'm gonna keep one going just to see what it's all about.

Best of luck this season:thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

05-16-2010, 03:56 PM

:clap:
Kinda ironic, here I am reading through what you are growing and I have a feeling I may know where some of your genetics were born:D

If you want to guess what might be in the mix, it will help me out as the instructions were lost, hence the ''Friends'' remark:hippy:. I do remember a possible WW:D, which would be interesting going outside, never seen it get up in the sun before:thumbsup: Others?

Also strange, I had a stash of old G-13 Labs Skunk1/NL so I popped a few. I have gifted a couple of them away already, but I'm gonna keep one going just to see what it's all about.

Is it fem, or are you just feeling it? I should have popped a couple of the Skunk#1 x NL #5, Skunk 1, NL 5, but didnt becouse of the re veg thing as 2 out of the 3, in a mix batch is in it.. Pretty easy to tell the difference, but i haven't got a Skunk 1 only plant, which would be cool:cool:, so i guess indoor project with fingers crossed.

About 25 years ago a friend of mine grew skunk using clones outside and was sorta teaching me the hobby. That stuff was the shit man, even gave me a clone to start. But then a bunch of shit happen, or i would have been growing a long ass time. Oh the good ol days:smokin:

Them puppies can get pretty dang huge, i could see ya putting some chicken wire on one and getting a monster. You said ya had some time on your hands, might be a nice project for ya. But, your a cola man arnt ya, or them big ass buds you grow are out of pure choice?:clap:

Thanks for stopping by irydyum:hippy:its good to know ya got my back, cuz the more eyes the better, plus you were first to say ''read bitch'' lol:confused:in the first real go-round:wtf:. What an adventure:wtf:, but an indoor later and with a ton of grow logs read with advise and info here im feelin pretty good about it, but i guess we shall see:greenthumb:

Lurking in your grow, nice:thumbsup:

See Ya bro':rasta:

CovertCarpenter

05-16-2010, 05:35 PM

irydyum

05-16-2010, 05:48 PM

Mine are supposed to be fem'd, but only time tells the truth on that one. I'm not a big fan of G13 Labs genetics, but I bought them way back before I knew anything. I just saw Skunk and NL and thought, those are 2 of my favorites, this has to be good.

When I grow from seed, I usually leave the plant be as far as topping and training. So yes, the 12 pack cola happens out of pure choice. It's hard to get a baseline on what the plant does, or can do, if we go fucking with everything right away. Call me old school. I won't be topping the Kush strain I have either since the person that gifted it to me mentioned that it doesn't respond well.

I may be able to give you some help identifying what's what in your seeds once they get flowering, I believe I saw everything that your genes came from. You know I'll be lurking around, throw up the batlight if you need something.

LetsSeeYa

05-17-2010, 01:41 AM

...to do some outdoor this year... I'm lovin' my indoor garden, don't get me wrong, but there are some beautiful spaces here in MegaCityOne, Canada, and if I could find one that wasn't infested with Teenagerus Vileus Horribulus, I'd have a nice little covert garden patch in a heartbeat...

(I might just do one anyways, if I can find me a buddy to drive outta the city with a coupla times... once for scouting, and once to 'transplant'...)

Pullin' up de lawn chaiah...

Just put a few out close to the road thats out in the boonies. If you can put them where they are sorta in plain sight, but just off the road, no one would think of looking in a place thats sorta in sight but yet outta sight:wtf:. Go out and spend a couple hours digging your holes and then get dropped off to plant, you will like the yield:hippy:plus what do ya got to lose, but some time an a bit of work, its worth it. You could chuck a bag of pre ferted soil in that feeds for 3 months and a shit load of perlite, then go back to harvest in about 4 months:thumbsup:

Mine are supposed to be fem'd, but only time tells the truth on that one. I'm not a big fan of G13 Labs genetics, but I bought them way back before I knew anything. I just saw Skunk and NL and thought, those are 2 of my favorites, this has to be good.

Id like you to try a few of these, there not femed, but i got 4 out of 5 females. The people that made them are ol time growers with lots of experience who keep each other in seeds. Thats what iv been told by the person who gifted them to me. And they were my indoor this winter, which smoked very nice:hippy: Im @ Yahoo.

As far as topping and training. So yes, the 12 pack cola happens out of pure choice. It's hard to get a baseline on what the plant does, or can do, if we go fucking with everything right away. Call me old school. I won't be topping the Kush strain I have either since the person that gifted it to me mentioned that it doesn't respond well.

Thats a good point if you haven't grown the plant out yet. Iv only Fimed one plant last year, which worked out well. I Femed one this year to just see what happens with a different strain. Im glad your not topping the Kush, iv seen some big ass buds on the Kush and thats why i ordered it. Stinky was showing some of her plants and Im pretty sure she had one, which looked like an advertisement for the strain. Not sure it had any leaves left on her at all, which from what iv read, the strains got a low leaf to bud ratio. Looked wicked man, im sure you will grow em out looking just as well.:thumbsup:

I may be able to give you some help identifying what's what in your seeds once they get flowering, I believe I saw everything that your genes came from. You know I'll be lurking around, throw up the batlight if you need something.

Thats cool irydyum:thumbsup:once they are picked out, i wont have any problems identifying them next time. Around here people that sell it never say ''iv got blank strain'', ya get ''its some good shit'', then pay out the ass. After last year i promised myself id never buy it again, but i pretty much gave to much away and didn't get my indoor going in time, which left me dry and after 29 years of smokin, i don't like to go w/o:jointsmile: Timing was off last year, but just getting started, il cut myself slack. This winter will be clones from the NL, or WiTarHar as this one was breed to grow fast with lowryder 2 in it along with a couple other very fine genes in it as well, il have to look at whats in it again and post it. But iv been told a guy went from seed to weed in 2 months. Not sure that will be the case out, but will see.

Just dug 3 holes and man im wipped out, only 11 more to go, lol

Peace man:rasta:

sarah louise

05-17-2010, 04:53 AM

StickyBuds1987

05-17-2010, 07:46 AM

man your going all out this year letsseeya i read your other logs they were great and had plenty of advice looks like your gonna have a nice harvest come fall good luck man keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-17-2010, 04:36 PM

Nice to see you back at the sharp end again LSY.

Shame you aren't a little closer seeing as you have a hankering for skunk#1... got a cupboard full the shit here and couple of gorgeous little mother plants to dispose of...

Ah well, let's hope it becomes legal in our lifetimes...

Thanks Sarah, glad you could join in the fun:thumbsup:I really liked the indoor, but ya cant beat that nice sunshine. Plus iv always liked to be out in nature, even as a kid. Hell i cant get my daughter to go outside, lol. Kids? But, i wish i was closer anyway, its great to have growers close to ya, makes for tradin genes easier:)

Thats a shame ya gotta dump good genes, are ya outta room? I have the Skunk#1, but its in a mixed batch of seeds, so its a mystery pop each time but im sure il run into one at some point. No complaints cuz the mix is all good:D. Il be seein ya:hippy:

man your going all out this year letsseeya i read your other logs they were great and had plenty of advice looks like your gonna have a nice harvest come fall good luck man keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

Well those were basic learning grows, if i don't improve this outdoor its all for nothing. With all the reading and the couple grows that went ok, i must improve each go-round:D. And everyone IMO should have this attitude, or there not serious enough about the hobby. These are people who just want the bud without enjoying the process, which for me is most of the fun:thumbsup:.

The re veg is a new method, but iv grown Bonsai for 16 years, so growing is just something i enjoy. I gotta say my Bonsai trees have been a bit neglected since i grew out a MJ plant. I fell in luv with it, cuz the growth is so fast and Bonsai is a slower reward, yet a beautiful thing once its trained and finally put into a Bonsai pot. There are plenty of methods with Bonsai that keeps it interesting. I gotta say tho that my oldest is looking very poor, it needs a trim and re pot. But my white pine will go into a clay pot this year after growing in a huge one in training getting the branch growth i want. It will be trained with wire an new growth sniped off.

Thanks for stopping by my frinds:rasta:

xxMrGreenThumbx

05-17-2010, 07:54 PM

oii oiii matey ow u doiin.. u got some updates on ur babys?
yeh mate im gunna b followiung this onnee... woop

StickyBuds1987

05-18-2010, 03:13 AM

I agree with ya Letsseeya i think we should enjoy the whole process and not just the buds we get at the end. I find it very interesting and its gonna be a new hobby of mine from now on. And yes i think everyone should try and improve there methods of growing with every new grow in order to get better and more potent bud/meds bigger yields and healthier more beautiful cannabis strains. :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-19-2010, 12:37 AM

Well i again typed a shit load and was booted from the site, so this is going to be brief. Planted my Edna and NL 5 after digging the holes a couple of days ago. Just wanted the animals to check them out first. It was tough, cuz if you don't know i use a chair. I am putting this here, because there are things i just cant do, which reading this thread may puzzle you if ya don't know it. No drama this year, if you got questions just ask, but im not looking for pity, please. Im just a grower that needs to do thing a bit different thats all, so when i say it took 4 hours to dig 3 holes, its no shit. But, only 11 to go:wtf:. Also, when i say i chucked them in their holes, i mean i chucked them in their hole. I cant reach the ground, so i loosened the soil around their containers and pretty much use gravity to get them to land as i want. The Edna went in a bit sideways, lol, but shes in and will be fine. Its raining and i wanted to take advantage of it to get them nice an settled in. If not il fix them sometime in the afternoon. I also put one in a 5 gallon that can be moved into the full sun. My ass is tired as hell so i might need to fill in a few details in the morning, but i have a few pics to show today. If they would load id give a run down, but its sure taking its time:wtf:

Check out the back ground, i mowed all those briers down with my chair, which took a couple of weeks. But last year they were blocking a lot of sun light and i wasn't having it this year. So lets hope for some nice bushes. I gotta say, they looked sad when i left them, but with the rain today and more in the forecast they will be fine. They looked great before i chucked em in their hole though:D

Man this is taking forever and im missing ''the fattest loser'' lol. Most of all i want to medicate:smokin:, so i can chill. Digging those holes kicked my ass man and i dug a bit too deep, but id much rather be deeper then not deep enough. The NL looked great when i went out to check them and i guess thats another reason i wanted to get them in the ground. Plus i ask a friend to dig for me last year, well after he was done, all he was worried about was getting his. LOL I took care of them everyday and i just don't want to deal with that shit this year. I think there is a lot i don't want to deal with this year, lol. Plus if ya want something done right, well ya know:hippy:, funny thing is as sore as i am, i freaking luved it. I miss a good hard physical task and wasn't sure i could get them dug, but i did. Not sure il do the rest, but try a few more. If this dosn't post im done tonight:(

1. Bucket plant

2. Edna re veg

3. My Fim for the year

4. I cleared out for most direct sun and hole for the Skunk 1 x NL 5

5. NL#5 re veg

SeeYa:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-21-2010, 12:03 AM

Well i guess we shall see if i got plants in the morning. These bastards that go behind my grow in 4 wheelers are standing on the foot pegs looking for grows. It seems like every year i see them, only this time they stopped right behind where i got a couple getting ready to go in the ground.

I plan to leave them there to see if they take em. I have more and this will let me know for sure if there checking me out. I gotta a grower who lives close to me and i think because of his rep, people are always checking out around his place. Four years ago someone got a 15' plant from him that was to be harvested in a day or two. This just really pisses me off, cuz if they want they could grow, but they are lazy fuckers and just want to steal them. But if that shit goes down.:mad:

Each year i see them, but i plant so there is no way they can see my plants, just too thick in there. I think a few nails through a board would give them flat tiers though, just bury it, who would know but us:thumbsup:. Think il bring in one thats up close to the house though, it looks too good and goes in the ground this weekend.

Cross your fingers for me everyone:hippy:

:rasta:

dmcefc

05-21-2010, 12:17 AM

StickyBuds1987

05-21-2010, 12:49 AM

aw man well i got my fingers crossed for ya i have a spot infrom of my house that is perfect for planting but during tha summer ppl ride there atvs all over the place there so i dont risk it

LetsSeeYa

05-21-2010, 01:09 AM

Bad,Bad people ,I can think of a few other words to describe that kind but I'll leave it at that.

Really,really hope everything goes ok for you and your patch is left in peace not pieces. Like you said don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Good Growin Mate.:thumbsup:

They could have been looking for shit to steal too. Heroin is bad around here, plus crack and them freaks will do anything for a fix. Some of my best friends i grew up with are so bad iv never told them where i built my house. And like i said, its the dude that lives near me, they would be scooping out. Its just that one of the 2 pretty much stopped ten yards away from plants still in pots, so if there gone i know where not to plant.

Im probably just reading into a bunch of nothing, but the guy close got a 15 footer stolen. I cant even imagine that. Shit id have to get some anti-depression pills or something, maybe ''weed hock'' therapy. lol but that big of plant would last me a year, i think. Never thought about how much it would take to last a year. Just a guess id say a 1/4 a week, but would need a few different strains.:smokin::smokin:.

Peace:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

05-21-2010, 01:18 AM

They could have been looking for shit to steal too. Heroin is bad around here, plus crack and them freaks will do anything for a fix. Some of my best friends i grew up with are so bad iv never told them where i built my house. And like i said, its the dude that lives near me, they would be scooping out. Its just that one of the 2 pretty much stopped ten yards away from plants still in pots, so if there gone i know where not to plant.

Im probably just reading into a bunch of nothing, but the guy close got a 15 footer stolen. I cant even imagine that. Shit id have to get some anti-depression pills or something, maybe ''weed hock'' therapy. lol but that big of plant would last me a year, i think. Never thought about how much it would take to last a year. Just a guess id say a 1/4 a week, but would need a few different strains.:smokin::smokin:.

Peace:rasta:

yeah i like to change the bud up after a while i hate when my dealer gets a bunch of the same stuff and all i can get is the same bud for like 3 months strait

sarah louise

05-21-2010, 11:02 AM

Thats a shame ya gotta dump good genes, are ya outta room?

Yeah, I take way too many cuttings and the growers I know are either seasonal and the season has finished or use recirculating hydroponics, so coco raised clones aren't that useful at this time of year.

I'm also culling some doubles so I can have more diversity in the mother's club. A couple may end up flowering through the winter in the greenhouse. The only other alternative is to strip out another bedroom and buy more lights... tempting.

LetsSeeYa

05-21-2010, 04:26 PM

Yeah, I take way too many cuttings and the growers I know are either seasonal and the season has finished or use recirculating hydroponics, so coco raised clones aren't that useful at this time of year.

Well i guess you can choose the best of the clones to flower this way:hippy:

I'm also culling some doubles so I can have more diversity in the mother's club. A couple may end up flowering through the winter in the greenhouse. The only other alternative is to strip out another bedroom and buy more lights... tempting.

Well i like to change up what im smoking, or i get to used to it and it doesnt help me as much as it once did. I have wanted a green house since iv built me house, but i gotta get the cash figured out before thats going to happen. But, wow id sure be growing the veggies if i were you. I like growing just about anything. Plus it tastes so good:thumbsup:

Thanks for stooping in Sarah:rasta:

greenthmb

05-21-2010, 04:58 PM

StickyBuds1987

05-21-2010, 05:42 PM

Your plants are looking awesome. As a newbie grower, I have a question.. Does how bushy the plant becomes depend on the strain? Or are some of you FIMing/topping them? I noticed that although some of the plants in the pics posted are still fairly young, they are very bushy.

Happy growing! :thumbsup:

I'm not an expert and im sure letsseeya might have a lil more advice than i can give but ill give it a shot. There are alot of things that play into this like what strain it is and how good the genetics are. Or if its 100% sativa or indica or if its a hybrid a cross between a sativa/indica if it is indeed a hybrid then its a matter of if its sative dom or indica dom.

Now moving right along to the part about fimm/topping, if you top or fimm your plants it makes them stay a lil shorter and bush out more plus have more tops. If you let it grow natural it will just have one big cola and be tall sometimes they look like x mas trees lol.

Now we come to the part where its all about the nutes and what kind of soil you have it in. If the plant is heathy and gets plenty of the nutes it needs during veg/flower and plenty of sun/light then it will look good and bushy and beautiful. All of these things above play a role in this but some play bigger roles than others.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

yo letsseeya did you find out if they got ya babies man

LetsSeeYa

05-21-2010, 05:44 PM

Your plants are looking awesome. As a newbie grower, I have a question.. Does how bushy the plant becomes depend on the strain? Or are some of you FIMing/topping them? I noticed that although some of the plants in the pics posted are still fairly young, they are very bushy.

Happy growing! :thumbsup:

Well i started them inside first, then but them out. If you put the light right down on them, it keeps them from stretching. This way they are a bit bigger, which gives them a better chance with bugs trying to get them. Now that the sun is on them, they are just taking off. The sun blows away any light:)
But you should read my outdoor grow as there is a lot of info that will help you. I had a bunch of help, as i had not done enough reading. So, i began reading during that grow and its been a year now. So, now im feeling pretty good about what im doing. Still i read and ask questions when im trying to figure out shit im unsure of. I like the Fim, so i did one last year and this year. Its an easy method and keeps them from getting real tall, but gives multiple tops.

If ya need help with anything you can post here too. And if ya want to fim, just use the search, it helps. Questions, just ask man:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-22-2010, 07:52 PM

Here are a few pic's of my fimed plant this year. Its got nice new growth since iv fimed it and not sure if i want to flower it inside, or chuck it in the ground. I tried to show where the fim was on the plant in one shot.

How many tops ya think il get? Im thinking 7 again this year:thumbsup:but will see if i can get that lucky again this year. This is the third time iv tried to post these, so cross your fingers for me,lol. Oh and i got one more in the ground, so that makes 6 counting the re vegged plants. If these post il put pics of the re veg up on the next post;)

This thing looks nice, with great branching going on. Il probobly put it in the ground, but want to find the perfect spot for her. If it can get a good full day of sun :hippy:

:rasta:

dmcefc

05-22-2010, 08:33 PM

Your girls looking good ,have you spotting anymore dodgy looking people by your grow site?.

Yes I've been having trouble with this site for a while were the pages wont load ,I'll load another site and it works fine then it takes a couple of goes to get on here.

Good Growin Mate.:thumbsup:

StickyBuds1987

05-23-2010, 01:52 AM

now thats a heathy looking plant good job man keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

Charbud

05-23-2010, 01:26 PM

LSY, didnt know you had this little project on the go ! Nice to see its all working out nicely, the girls are looking realy healthy!:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

LetsSeeYa

05-23-2010, 04:17 PM

LSY, didnt know you had this little project on the go ! Nice to see its all working out nicely, the girls are looking realy healthy!:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

Hey Char, thanks for stopping by man:hippy:I should have let ya know about this new project. This re veg thing is great man. The Edna is looking great, but the other 2 needs to a bit of ferts and used to the outdoors. I think they should be fine in time though.

Here is a peek of the re vegged plants and a few smaller ones in the ground.:thumbsup:

NL, looking better with new growth at the top

Skunk x NL, just getting used to being in the ground just yet

Edna, This plant is the best for re veg, because of where i left buds to grow into branch growth. The buds left on the outer branch growth were not as close to the main stem, so it spread out instead of straight up. So i think this will be the best of the three, but i guess will see.

Been having a hard time posting pics, but if these load il try an show other smaller ones that are in the ground and one in a 5 gallon.:D It took 45mni. to post mt last pics and really don't have that time today. But my horoscope said to spend time in my garden today, lol. I plan to hit them with some high N ferts today to give them a spark. Then il start giving molasses every other watering. Till i can give some Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz and Cha Ching:cool:

:rasta:

Charbud

05-24-2010, 12:32 PM

Re-veg looks good ! I always thought it was really difficult, maybe I should give it ago after i harvest ! But ye man, there looking nice, good work :)

Rusty Trichome

05-24-2010, 12:55 PM

LetsSeeYa

05-24-2010, 02:54 PM

I've never re-vegged for outdoors. Can't wait to see their progress. Looking good so far. :thumbsup:

Are the 4 wheelers into gardening? You could twist-tie fake flowers (something common for summer bloom in your area) on the plant, to throw-off casual onlookers. Perhaps a plastic tomato or two...? If looking from a distance it might throw 'em off the trail, lol.

Glad you stopped in Rusty:hippy:I got a bit freaked out about the four wheelers, but i think its just the first time iv seen them this year. They ride back there every year, so i shouldn't have been surprised. From where they ride its impossible for them to see anything i have in the ground, just freaked a bit i guess. A guy i know had a big one ripped a few years ago and he's over it more then me i think. I just cant stand low life's like that. But, who ever owns it back there has posted it, also they mow it each year now. Before it was posted, i saw a guy standing on the foot pegs looking for something and it was to late for mushrooms, but my site just isnt visable from up there. Now if they came on my property, they would see the path my chair cuts right to them, but thats a rule i just gotta brake, no other choice.

I am going to hit them with some strong nutes today to give a boost of N to green the 2 up a bit and P to get the roots a even better chance to go crazy. I mixed it weak some what, but its like 15-20-15 and i used it last year. I only used to much last year, which gave the weed a really bad taste, but harvest was unplanned. This time il use it only to about July, then the other stuff iv mentioned, this way i can boost them, but have the taste im looking for. I really would like to keep the FF stuff for my indoor grows. But, i do use it while they are still in pots, so they get big enough to put in he ground. Il try an put a gallon jug out for size comparison today, but the Edna is looking very nice.

Check out a close up of the middle of the Edna's new growth, just wish i would have trimmed the others this way, for side growth. To guess id say its about as big as two gallon jugs put together:D. Il be back later to reply to everyone, its just that iv had a hard time posting pic's and this one has been left out. I even lowered my camera settings to help size of image, but no change. But i have dial-up, so i guess it could just be me and this dang slow connection.

Oh and i fimed one more for possible SOG, if i can get some help with it, if not i guess il just grow it out. Il get a pic of it today also, just snipped her last night so you can see where i cut her.

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-24-2010, 03:07 PM

Re-veg looks good ! I always thought it was really difficult, maybe I should give it ago after i harvest ! But ye man, there looking nice, good work :)

Hey Car it really is worth it, i just followed what Rusty did on his re vegging, but i had no leaves to work with. So, knowing i was going out with them i just left a few small buds, which gave me all that growth. Inside, id follow Rusty's Methods, because they go crazy wild with growth from buds, so room will be an issue inside. Basically, leaves work better indoors i think, but Rusty does some major chopping and brings them out looking like beauties.

IMO, they are there, so why wouldn't you take advantage of it. Just a few re pots and alot of trimming as ya see in his threads. Pretty much spells everything ya need to do it out in easy to understand directions, just like a manual:thumbsup:

See Ya man:rasta:

GetThisOrDie

05-24-2010, 03:52 PM

holy shit rusty thats a great idea about crafting a make shit ghillie suit for the plants!!

plastic tomatoes... damn.. thats great! I never thought of that.

LetsSeeYa

05-25-2010, 04:18 PM

Sorry no pic's, i sorta had to get the ''Family'' in there places. I will not have any updates on these for at least a week, but if the sun isn't to bright today il try an get a few of the re veg and friends of the ''Friends'' collection, lol.

Just cant seem to find a setting on my camera that will take a pic in full sun, iv tried every setting. If there is someone who knows what setting i should use, chime in and let me know.:hippy:

:rasta:

stra8outtaWeed

05-25-2010, 04:26 PM

those are lookin nice...can't wait to see more pics :thumbsup:

oldhaole

05-25-2010, 04:39 PM

LSY, you are doing great. If you have rips in the area always watch your sight lines. With summer approaching you will be looking at some large trees. I like the tire trap idea. Also, some yellow plastic flowers tied into your plants will throw off many casual rip-offs.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with re-grows. They will get a lot bigger (and rounder) than you think. Some things to look out for later. When your plant flowers it gets heavy. If you get rain, add that water weight to the weight of the buds and the stem may split. You can stop this with zip ties, or staking.

I've seen Edna like regrows before, so get ready for ball o' buds. Keep yours, yours, and you will be a happy camper come October.

Good Luck.

xxMrGreenThumbx

05-25-2010, 08:31 PM

nyc mate them plants r lookin nyc..

StickyBuds1987

05-25-2010, 09:26 PM

looking good man keep it up i like your re veg method :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-26-2010, 12:16 AM

those are lookin nice...can't wait to see more pics :thumbsup:

Thanks Stra8, Rusty gave me the idea. Just seem like a waste not to try it and really all i had to do was 2 re pots, some trimming and a few small buds for branch growth. I had no leaves to work with, but the buds are doing fine for an out grow:thumbsup:

LSY, you are doing great. If you have rips in the area always watch your sight lines. With summer approaching you will be looking at some large trees. I like the tire trap idea. Also, some yellow plastic flowers tied into your plants will throw off many casual rip-offs.

Tire trap? Never heard of that before, but these people are around most of the summer and my grow really isn't visible from where they ride. They even mow it back there, so the only way is if they smell it and the sent shouldn't travel that way. I might put a few plastic flowers in them tho, just because i live very close to a small yet busy airport. So they fly low getting ready to land. Im not to worried about the plants, but i had cleared out a pretty big area that would have shaded them for more hours then i wanted. I had one there last year which got tall, but yield was weak, so i went out from the fence a bit more and chopped some of the crap that shaded the one last year. So the clearing is something that could be spotted, but im back there all the time as in im just chillin back there. Iv done this 3 years now, just so if people see me its like ''theres that guy out there again''.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with re-grows. They will get a lot bigger (and rounder) than you think. Some things to look out for later. When your plant flowers it gets heavy. If you get rain, add that water weight to the weight of the buds and the stem may split. You can stop this with zip ties, or staking..

Yeah i thought when they get taller i thought about cutting a garden hose to fit around it in the middle for support and if i need more il use stakes. I really hope they do well:D

I've seen Edna like regrows before, so get ready for ball o' buds. Keep yours, yours, and you will be a happy camper come October..

Thanks for stopping in and dont be a stranger:hippy:

nyc mate them plants r lookin nyc..

Thanks man:thumbsup:

looking good man keep it up i like your re veg method :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

You got it bro:hippy:

Pics will come Tomorrow some time, just too bright out for any today, freaking hot too.

Thanks again everyone for stopping in:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-26-2010, 10:28 PM

Well i was able to get a few pics this morning trying to beat the freaking sun:D But my connect speed is slow so i guess we will see if they load today. These are pics of the 2nd plant i fimed this year. I wanted to keep them a bit low and get yield with more tops. It worked last year and i liked what it did for me, so why not 2 this year.

I also put a pic up of the last of the ''Family'', which includes the 2nd fimed one. New growth looks good for only 5 days and i hope you can see how the plant is planning to respond to the fim. I like the technique, i believe you get the yield, at the same time keeping the plant incognito. The ''family'' plants are all going gorilla style, i just don't need to many around here:mad:. Im not the bending over type, or if someone dropped the soap, id run:D

Well they loaded, so il get the other batch as soon as these are up:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-26-2010, 11:02 PM

Well i was wrong on the last post as the 5 gallon plant, who is part of the ''family'', was fimed 5 days ago and the above plant was fimed 3 days ago. OK so we got that straight i think.

I need to move my 5 gal plant out into a field iv picked out, but the damn thing weighs a freaking ton, but il get er done. I also am going to bend er over for a SOG. Its looking pretty healthy and will fim it in a few places to get a bunch of branches. Then i thought i would use stakes along the ground to hold it down. Im not sure how it will come out, but iv got enough around here and really want to get her low. This way i can really let her go crazy in plan sight without being seen. It will have full sun from up to down, which should yield a good amount.

So im trying to keep this thread in some order, because last year my log was so unorganized, which is something im not real good at anyway, but thought i would try. So, iv forgot to post the Edna. I just tried to get it on this post, but was to late. So next post i guess.

The other pics after the 5 gal is of one of my best looking so far. Its been fimed 5 days ago and is now in a field as of Sunday. Looks like its taken well to the ground, but im sorry about poor pics. I tried to take them when the clouds moved in, but there were not many, so i put up a few:D Il post the Edna thats sitting by the jug i dropped.

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-26-2010, 11:21 PM

I took this jug out to water the re vegged plants this morning and drop the damn thing, so i got the camera to show some sort of size comparison. The others really are not pic worthy, but are growing and when they look a bit nicer il make sure they are posted. Plus as you can tell the sun was really bright and doesnt show just how green they really are. But possible rain in the morning and im hoping for it. They really grow when it rains. Iv seen 3-4'' over night after a good long rain, then the sun pops out:thumbsup:

Ok to see the plant ya really need to open the pic link to see the branch growth. I thought about pulling out some of the branches an stke them, so light will get into the middle of the plant, but not sure yet:wtf:

Ok, im done:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-27-2010, 10:28 PM

Well it was better for taking pic's today, so i thought id get a few of the re vegged plants and the other nice looking bigger one of the ''family''. But im really wondering why someone didn't pick up on the male/hermy plant in the first post yesterday. Or i guess no one has even looked at my update:wtf: You tell me, anyone notice at all, i left it on purpose just knowing that someone would point it out, lol.

Anyway i have found 3 all togther, but glad to see them now before i get to pumped about how big they would have gotten. All were started inside and all were moved from about 9 hours of direct sun light to about 4. I really don't think this caused them to turn on me, but did think about it as i was moving them away from my house. I still need to pull 2 but cant reach them, so il proboblly dig them out and replace them with a fresh family member:cool:

The pics start with the Edna and next is a close up of her.

Then the NL#5 and after that, its the Skunk#1 x NL#5, which is really starting to stink that sweet smell of Skunk:thumbsup:

Last pic is a ''family'' pic which turned out a bit better then yesterday's pics, so i thought i would add it. I need to get some more fill dirt as it has settled a bit, but still looks to be one of my best plants, not counting the re vegged ones.

:rasta:

ultimatefreak48

05-27-2010, 10:31 PM

I see BALLLLLLLLLS :(

Other plants look great THO!!!

LetsSeeYa

05-27-2010, 10:51 PM

Ok, this is my big issue growing with privacy, my path. Other then telling everyone ya grow, blazing a trail to your grow should be rule 2. Well i do enter this from the very end of my land. The only problem is, i cut the same path to get to the end of the property. Only because my mower is down and my back yard looks like a damn field. But it will be fixed soon and mowed, i just wanted to show what it looks like when ya grow from a chair. Now the plains that fly by, im sure just think its a 4 wheeler path:D At least if it were me flying over, thats what id think. And it is not visible from the 4 wheeler path behind my grow:jointsmile: So, i think im good, but it does show how much im out there, lol.

Keep er Green :weedpoke: :rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-27-2010, 10:56 PM

I see BALLLLLLLLLS :(

Other plants look great THO!!!

So what tipped ya off there freak, the fact that i wrote that no one noticed or ya just saw them right off and thought you might let me know:wtf:

:rasta:

irydyum

05-27-2010, 11:32 PM

But im really wondering why someone didn't pick up on the male/hermy plant in the first post yesterday.

I should be scolded, I saw it, and prayed that it was a fuzzy picture and I was seeing new nodes emerging. I'll stand to the back of the room and take my lashes.

Had I known I was being set up to observe my lack of response, I would have absolutely said "look at those nutsacks". I figured you had a grip on what you were doing, and it wasn't worth ME pointing out what you already knew. Most people find that insulting.

In the future, I'll treat your pics like forensic evidence and let you know all the details I see, probably not through this means, but I'll be sure to let you know:thumbsup:

dmcefc

05-27-2010, 11:43 PM

StickyBuds1987

05-28-2010, 12:41 AM

looks real good man i thought those looked like balls when i looked at the first pis a min ago

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 12:53 AM

I should be scolded, I saw it, and prayed that it was a fuzzy picture and I was seeing new nodes emerging. I'll stand to the back of the room and take my lashes.

Lol, thats some funny ass shit man.:D Only because last year you would have ask why the hell i cant tell the difference from a male to a female. Well, maybe not in those words, but close, lol

Had I known I was being set up to observe my lack of response, I would have absolutely said "look at those nutsacks". I figured you had a grip on what you were doing, and it wasn't worth ME pointing out what you already knew. Most people find that insulting.

Na i wouldn't set anyone up like that, although there are a couple threads in here that seem to me to be all fiction. And id luv to set up some shit to figure out if the grow is real or not:wtf:. I just cant understand how some of the shit iv been reading is even true, and to fake a grow? What the hell does someone get out of a fake thread, ya got me? I thought i was the only person that had that much time on my hands.lol

In the future, I'll treat your pics like forensic evidence and let you know all the details I see, probably not through this means, but I'll be sure to let you know:thumbsup:

Lol Irydyum, to be honest i wasn't exactly sure till today, its just in most cases people look at what is wrong in a grow, rather then compliment it. And probably there are more poor grows then good ones, but just was surprised when no one picked it up. I too was hoping for maybe leaf growth to shoot out from the blurry little bumps, cuz your right the pics were pretty blurred up. And until i blew up the pic's i couldn't tell on the plant as they were so small. But i went out today to find 3 including that one. Hell i thought no one even took a look at pics i had to wait a half hour to load:wtf:, but im dealing with dial-up out here in the boonies.

At least i know your lurking in here man, lol

Thats a good thing:thumbsup:

Oh and yeah i do have a good handle on things now, thanks to you and a few others help from last year. But you were the first to pop in and give me the advise to really get me here. Growing the Bonsai trees helped and a basic understanding of growing a plant in general. Plus iv always believed that common sense can get a person far, which would have to be one of my best attributes:cool:. Thanks for stopping in man:jointsmile:

:rasta:

irydyum

05-28-2010, 01:06 AM

At least i know your lurking in here man, lol

Thats a good thing:thumbsup:

While others may not reciprocate your sentiments, you can rest assured that I'm always lurking about.

I don't know how or why people would fake grows, and if they do, that's pathetic. Though I can't say you are the first to have that suspicion:detective1:

You should isolate one of those healthy males and harvest some pollen off it. Brush a couple nugs on a healthy lady, and voila, Some LSY F1 beans! Just a "seed" I'll plant in your head:D

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 01:08 AM

You'll be ok mate ,just get that lawnmower up and running and you'll have no worries ,I think a trail in the middle of nowhere would be more of a givaway for planes and helicopters.

How long does it take you to get to your plot and back?.

Later Mate.:thumbsup:

Hey dm, how goes it? Looks like your stepping it up from last year too:thumbsup:. Yeah i got someone taking it back to the factory to get it fixed, so it shouldn't be to long before i can get it mowed. And i think your right about the trail right behind my house, cuz its just a back yard. Its just shaped really funny. I have a square piece of land, but also have about 40' from the fence towards my house, that goes for about 200 yards. Which makes great to plant one here an there. I go out and sit out in the shade where its away from the house and get :stoned:. I like it a lot, just not living with the ex, lol.

Later bro, thanks for stopping by man:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 01:26 AM

While others may not reciprocate your sentiments, you can rest assured that I'm always lurking about.

I don't know how or why people would fake grows, and if they do, that's pathetic. Though I can't say you are the first to have that suspicion:detective1:

You should isolate one of those healthy males and harvest some pollen off it. Brush a couple nugs on a healthy lady, and voila, Some LSY F1 beans! Just a "seed" I'll plant in your head:D

Well that ''seed'' sprouted as soon as i saw the one thats getting the best and longest amount of sun. My question would be, how long before there is usable pollen? What im saying is i guess i thought i would need to take one damn near to flowering. I got a grower near me now and would hate to give him ''the seeds'', lol. But hell yeah, id like to get a few beans if i don't need to take them that far. I do have one down wind of all but one and if i can get pollen before it hurts the crop im game for sure.

Maybe you could fill in the blanks for me and il give er hell:thumbsup:

:rasta:

irydyum

05-28-2010, 01:31 AM

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 02:05 AM

Cut a clone off the male and bring it inside to your starter spot. Flower it in there as soon as it's rooted, and about 2-3 weeks later you should be able to harvest some usable pollen.

If left outside there's no telling when it'll happen but if it's happening now (and ur girls aren't showing) there shouldn't be too much to worry about just yet.

It's just a male, what's the worst that can happen? It dies? Oh well:D

Best bet is to move a cut indoors though, that way you can keep a really close eye on it and capture the male flowers as soon as they begin to open up.

Wow im just dumb, i forgot i grow indoors too. Geez man, never even gave it a thought. I want to take the one getting all that sun, i think il just dig it up and pot it. Hell i have a box sitting right by my bed with a light in it already. Then i can put one of my other plants witout a home in its spot. Oh yeah, that works perfect, but i really never gave it a thought to bring it in.

Thanks man:thumbsup:Now im hoping this thought would have came to me at some point, but sure glad ya got my back man, cool:cool:

:rasta:

irydyum

05-28-2010, 02:40 AM

Wow im just dumb, i forgot i grow indoors too. Geez man, never even gave it a thought.
It's amazing how the simplest of things escape our minds at times. We get geared in one direction and get so focused that the rest becomes blurred.

I'm curious to see you pull this off. Gonna be an interesting one for sure.

Rusty Trichome

05-28-2010, 12:53 PM

But im really wondering why someone didn't pick up on the male/hermy plant in the first post yesterday. Or i guess no one has even looked at my update:wtf: You tell me, anyone notice at all, i left it on purpose just knowing that someone would point it out, lol.
Some of us are on slow connections, and are not into opening every picture posted. (I'm one of those) After seeing 100,000 different photo's of cannabis plants, they all look pretty much the same when 1 1/2" x 1" and unless I've been asked, or are attempting to help out with a diagnosis, pictures are left unopened.

Now had you asked us to play Where's Waldo with you, likely all of us would have caught the picture. But setting your peers up and accusing us of inattention, is a good way to chase-off interest in your thread(s). Perhaps keeping that adolescent gameplay to a minimum is best.

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 09:29 PM

Some of us are on slow connections, and are not into opening every picture posted. (I'm one of those) After seeing 100,000 different photo's of cannabis plants, they all look pretty much the same when 1 1/2" x 1" and unless I've been asked, or are attempting to help out with a diagnosis, pictures are left unopened.

I hear ya Rusty, i don't open every pic myself. Id never get through anything if i tried. And i also know that if i wanted something diagnosed, all i would need to do is ask. I could have went to your thread and you would answer any question i ask il bet. But, thats because your a helpful person who gets bombed with help questions, yet even volunteer your expertise. And plan out just a good dude:hippy: But i believe you have misunderstood what i had said.

Now had you asked us to play Where's Waldo with you, likely all of us would have caught the picture. But setting your peers up and accusing us of inattention, is a good way to chase-off interest in your thread(s). Perhaps keeping that adolescent gameplay to a minimum is best.

I am not that type of person, to ''set up'' or play games with mentors and friends on this site. Sometimes things typed get misconstrued and meaning lost in translation, which i believe is the case here.

I thought that by replying to irydyum's first post explained my intentions as to the ''balls''. Its only that when i left the computer the night i posted the pic of the ''nutsacks''< stole from irydyum>lol, i really had no idea as if it was male/hermy. I needed to give it a day to see if indeed it was a male/hermy? So what im saying is i didnt know at all for sure till the next day, when they were much bigger. So the first thing i thought of was ''oh shit im going to have 20 posts thats says you got a male''. Its only constructive critisizame, but i had no one post a thing. So basiclly i thought no one had given the time to look at pics that were asked for, or even open the thread at all.

This is why i made the comment, which i guess i shouldn't assume that people didn't look at the thread as irydyum did and basically thought the same as i did, but didn't post anything. But, like he said, he figured i was able to sex my own plant:thumbsup:. And this is true, but only because of him, you and so many others i couldn't list, gave me so much knowledge i feel good about what Im doing. Not that i don't still need advise, but have a couple good grows under my belt, also i read everyday and thats no shit, everyday! I believe its a good thing to go into a project with a positive attitude and i got this from you and many others.

When i made the comment, it was meant as a joke. It was sorta geared to myself but can understand if you thought i was bitching about not getting help. But if ya think a sec. Rusty, you have given so much to my grow. I wouldn't even have this project if it wasn't for your guidance through the re veg, i didn't have a clue. Now i would never take all you have given me along with the others and piss them away. Like i said just thought there would be talk of a hermy/male. You go to just about any grow log and people like to point out things which might be wrong, or just an over all, bashing of the set-up. I have seen people post a big beautiful pic of there very nice plant and the first post will say ''whats with that yellow leaf''. Ya get me? I just laugh as the plant is almost perfect, but one leaf and it gets jumped on, in stead of a at a boy, nice plant. So, i guess i thought no one even open the thread at all and was speechless to a point. Im really never speechless, lol.

I hope you understand me Rusty, cuz all iv ever gotten from this site has been luv:hippy: And i wouldn't ruin this for nothing! If ya don't understand what im trying to say, please ask, cuz im not that type of person at all and would never want anyone to think it:jointsmile:

:rasta:

stra8outtaWeed

05-28-2010, 10:01 PM

your plants look great bro...except the balls...but i figured you had everything under control...keep em green :thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 10:39 PM

It's amazing how the simplest of things escape our minds at times. We get geared in one direction and get so focused that the rest becomes blurred.

Man thats for sure, i couldn't figure out how the hell to stop what the hell ever is trying to dig up my dog. My friend says '' i got some chicken wire we can put over him to discourage them''. Man the whole time im thinking more dirt, or rocks just anything to make him deeper. Its messed up. But the wire is on, and i think he's god now.

I'm curious to see you pull this off. Gonna be an interesting one for sure.

Oh ya questioning my skillz bro,:cool: lmao, yeah your going to need to let me know when i can tell when pollen is there to take. I wouldn't think it would need to complete itself, but never grew a male i didn't chop down before.

I dug it up this morning and replaced it with a smaller one that needed to get in the ground. I took the male an chucked it into a pot and now have it in a box with a couple cfls on it. Man this thing is filled with nutsacks, lol. But i got a question, i was told that the seeds were femed, so is it a hermy or male? I would think hermy, only because their femed, but the only difference in the hermy iv seen is this plant has more balls and looks like a pic used to identify a male. Clusters of balls, il try an get a pic up.

Later man:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 10:57 PM

your plants look great bro...except the balls...but i figured you had everything under control...keep em green :thumbsup:

Hey Stra8, thanks a lot man, but i got a ways to go. I really hope it goes well. Things look good and the deer havent touched them at all, but about every 4 days i take a big ass bunch of piss and blaze the trail with it. Its the only method iv heard of that makes sense.

Gotta say that your grow looked wonderful:hippy:. I was wondering what you felt about it, everyone has their own expectations of what they want in the end. I guess i just was hoping you were thrilled with it. Your a bit more used to having killer big grows, so when i check it out, its kinda like, just don't get the slobber on the keyboard, lol:thumbsup:

Il be watching your next one again for sure:thumbsup: i luv them lights man:hippy:

:rasta:

irydyum

05-28-2010, 11:02 PM

But i got a question, i was told that the seeds were femed, so is it a hermy or male?

I think it's a male, if i know the source, femmed was speculation at best. If you don't see ANY pistils, then it's probably all male. I think that's a good thing, the resulting seed stock should have some hybrid vigor and grow quick hopefully.

As far as when to take them, you'll see the male flowers open up. When they open up is when the pollen gets released. You'll probably wake up one day to see that a couple of fans have a yellow or white powder on top of em (assuming airflow is a minimum). I'm positive there are better explanations on this site than I can provide, but the idea is to contain some of that pollen into a STERILE, DRY container. Then you use a small brush to put the pollen on a couple lower buds of the plant you want to inseminate. It only takes a single grain of pollen to attach to a single pistil to create a seed in the attached calyx. Nature takes over from there.

I saw Rusty dropped in, as I'm sure he has more experience with this than me, maybe he can tidy my explanation up a bit for ya.

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 11:44 PM

I think it's a male, if i know the source, femmed was speculation at best. If you don't see ANY pistils, then it's probably all male. I think that's a good thing, the resulting seed stock should have some hybrid vigor and grow quick hopefully.

As far as when to take them, you'll see the male flowers open up. When they open up is when the pollen gets released. You'll probably wake up one day to see that a couple of fans have a yellow or white powder on top of em (assuming airflow is a minimum). I'm positive there are better explanations on this site than I can provide, but the idea is to contain some of that pollen into a STERILE, DRY container. Then you use a small brush to put the pollen on a couple lower buds of the plant you want to inseminate. It only takes a single grain of pollen to attach to a single pistil to create a seed in the attached calyx. Nature takes over from there.

I saw Rusty dropped in, as I'm sure he has more experience with this than me, maybe he can tidy my explanation up a bit for ya.

Thanks irydyum as i much apreciate the info. This one was in the ground and has a lot of balls on it. I sorta thought i didnt need it to go that deep into growing it, but i guess the pollen needs to be growen. This will be interesting as heck mam. To make my own seed, then grow it out, well dosnt get much more effichent then that.

Thanks again man:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-28-2010, 11:45 PM

I think it's a male, if i know the source, femmed was speculation at best. If you don't see ANY pistils, then it's probably all male. I think that's a good thing, the resulting seed stock should have some hybrid vigor and grow quick hopefully.

As far as when to take them, you'll see the male flowers open up. When they open up is when the pollen gets released. You'll probably wake up one day to see that a couple of fans have a yellow or white powder on top of em (assuming airflow is a minimum). I'm positive there are better explanations on this site than I can provide, but the idea is to contain some of that pollen into a STERILE, DRY container. Then you use a small brush to put the pollen on a couple lower buds of the plant you want to inseminate. It only takes a single grain of pollen to attach to a single pistil to create a seed in the attached calyx. Nature takes over from there.

I saw Rusty dropped in, as I'm sure he has more experience with this than me, maybe he can tidy my explanation up a bit for ya.

Thanks irydyum as i much appreciate the info. This one was in the ground and has a lot of balls on it. I sorta thought i didn't need it to go that deep into growing it, but i guess the pollen needs to be grown. This will be interesting as heck Man. To make my own seed, then grow it out, well doesnt get much more efficient then that.

Thanks again man:rasta:

irydyum

05-29-2010, 12:04 AM

I sorta thought i didnt need it to go that deep into growing it,

Chances are you won't. I can't speculate on the time it's going to take since I have no clue about the genes, however usually within about 2 weeks of showing it's sex, the flowers should begin to open. It will continue to throw pollen from that point on until you decide to kill it, or it decides it's done and kills itself.

You have to love it when you cooperate with nature, you could potentially never need seeds again. Unless of course you don't like how your cross turns out, there will likely be many many variations as it's going to be an F1 cross and highly unstable. You may need to pop quite of few of them next year to make sure that what you put in the ground is what you want to grow, but aside from all that it's fun:thumbsup: And you'll be the only one with your specific cross, that's always cool too.

I'm sure you'll pull it off, i'm just excited to watch:)

LetsSeeYa

05-29-2010, 12:44 AM

Chances are you won't. I can't speculate on the time it's going to take since I have no clue about the genes, however usually within about 2 weeks of showing it's sex, the flowers should begin to open. It will continue to throw pollen from that point on until you decide to kill it, or it decides it's done and kills itself.

Well they look like they could open at any moment, sorta odd, but i did start them inside so its not like they are real young. Took me to just about Aujest to find any males last year, but different strain could be an issue id think.

You have to love it when you cooperate with nature, you could potentially never need seeds again. Unless of course you don't like how your cross turns out, there will likely be many many variations as it's going to be an F1 cross and highly unstable. You may need to pop quite of few of them next year to make sure that what you put in the ground is what you want to grow, but aside from all that it's fun:thumbsup: And you'll be the only one with your specific cross, that's always cool too.

I'm sure you'll pull it off, i'm just excited to watch:)

Man i really need to read up on this. I cant find a place to read about seeds. I need so much info, because i don't understand what is what. F1 cross? Is there an F2 and that means? So i need to find some reading that would educate me on this kinda shit that i really want to know.

Thanks for the confidence bro,:cool:

:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

05-29-2010, 12:37 PM

LetsSeeYa

05-29-2010, 03:45 PM

If you just pollinate plant "A" with plant "B", you'll end-up with traits from both plants parents, and likely some traits from the grandparents of each, too. The idea is to promote desirable traits, (like bushiness, or fruity flavors, or THC content...) and avoid the bad genetics. (like stretching too much, slow finishing, low stress tolerance...) In other words...You chose the best representation of the breeds you are crossing and use them as your parents, and keep your fingers crossed.

Below is a breeding lineage chart for the listed cross. Then it shows the back-crossing, (of the resultant seeds) which aids in setting-in desirable traits, and then back-crossed again (from the resultant seeds) to stabilize the offspring and prevent phenotype diversity. (hopefully only two phenotypes by now) The more you back-cross the plants with desirable characteristics, the more stable the resultant offspring.
(the seeds (plants) without the M or F designation under it, were not acceptable for back-crossing, but they are still represented here for some reason) Notice the divergence of the process after the second back-cross.
This is great if you are selling your seeds, but a bit of overkill if just breeding for personal meds. Many different ways to screw-up, so use proper care, sanitation and labeling. Tiz a long process, and starting over from scratch is time consuming, and just plain sucks.

Thanks Rusty, thats great information iv been looking for here. I thought i could get something on the sticky thats got all the charts in it. I was able to get a few for plant Ph deficiency, which will be put to good use till i can put them n the vault.

Anyway, its some complicated shit, but i think after iv read it a few times and the chart you added pretty much laid it out in a way i could understand. I need to buy a book as i have a bunch of bonsai stuff, but no MJ books to read. My ex who lives here works at B@N, but is afraid to buy one for me:wtf:. So, i guess their site has some used books im planing on look for today. I am looking for something that will explain breeding, but also an over all genral book of useful information. I ya have any books you would suggest, let me know as i cant get more then one now and what im looking for in one book il probably never find. But i haven't looked yet:wtf:

Thanks once again Rusty:rasta:

stra8outtaWeed

05-29-2010, 04:03 PM

Hey Stra8, thanks a lot man, but i got a ways to go. I really hope it goes well. Things look good and the deer havent touched them at all, but about every 4 days i take a big ass bunch of piss and blaze the trail with it. Its the only method iv heard of that makes sense.

Gotta say that your grow looked wonderful:hippy:. I was wondering what you felt about it, everyone has their own expectations of what they want in the end. I guess i just was hoping you were thrilled with it. Your a bit more used to having killer big grows, so when i check it out, its kinda like, just don't get the slobber on the keyboard, lol:thumbsup:

Il be watching your next one again for sure:thumbsup: i luv them lights man:hippy:

:rasta:

thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though :D..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-29-2010, 04:16 PM

Here is what she looks like today. Not bad for sitting in my box without the fan on. Just really don't want to spread any pollen in the house.

I didn't take these, so il try an get a better quality pic of the sacks on this plant later. Just thought id show what they look like now, for a possible guess of a harvest time. Its under 2 26w CFL's and they are running 24/0 light. I thought with the 24/0 would help speed up they flowering, so then i can get what i need and burn the box and clean the light:hippy:

:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

05-29-2010, 04:19 PM

I had a grow guide once, but learned 99% of what I know, in forums like this one. You can't ask books any questions nor can you ask for clarification on issues... Was kinda neat looking at the pictures, but grow guides soon become outdated as botanists and horticulturists are just figuring-out how to seperate necessity from myth. The info in the forums is real-life, is as current as it gets, and most plant problem diagnosis are relevant to your personal situation, if you fill-out the troubleshooting form.
(we're not sponsored by a book publisher, are we...?)

Jorge Cervantes and Mel Franks have a good reputation as cannabis authors. Kind of a dry read though. Not sure I remember the depth of their breeding info, but I don't think it's too deep.

You could Google 'Cannabis Breeding' Many helpful articles there. :jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-29-2010, 04:54 PM

thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

Thanks man:jointsmile:most people tell me they couldnt do it, but i guess i look at it from a different view point. I have made it a game from day one. If i pick up the can and drink out of it i win, if i spill the damn thing i lose. Just an exampale, but thats how i go about each and every task i have, from the time im up to the time i go to bed. It makes life interesting for me and has made it easy for day to day crap. It works for me, but i dont like to lose, lol.

i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though :D..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

Wow man they say for someone to try an get .50gr per watt is what iv read. So you exceeded that by a lot, plus quality is good, so id gotta say WOW. But growing i thing we all want to step up each grow:hippy:. If you had figured out a way to raise your hps, i think you have the ability to make the switch to taking care of your own LED lights. It just might need more time to figure out just how to get it done. Ever thought of connecting them in a way that its only to raise and lower, you could use multiple pulleys maybe? Not there so hard to envision. But just thinking about it someday, i believe you will figure it out. I dont like anyone helping me with something i believe i could do myself.

[QOUTE]i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:[/QUOTE]

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

stra8outtaWeed

05-29-2010, 06:24 PM

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

the stuff is called DEER SCRAM...there is a website on the side www.deerscram.com (http://www.deerscram.com)

the active ingredients are;
dried blood 40%
garlic 3%
white pepper 3%
cloves 1%
meat meal 53%

i've tried to hit your yahoo and it wont let me through...hit mine and we can chat sometime :smokin:

LetsSeeYa

05-29-2010, 10:33 PM

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants. Just to lazy today or hot to chop it down, but il get it in the morning. I have 1 more family member which il put in its place. Its a great spot getting most of the days direct sun light. This one stinks, only because it look so good before i went out today with balls hanging off the lower top. Oh well lets just hope the others stay on the other side:thumbsup:and i should do ok outside this year. I only wish i would have started a few of the re vegged plants seed stock, just to get a NL plant outside.

See Ya:rasta:

Hempsouth

05-30-2010, 12:37 PM

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

Rusty Trichome

05-30-2010, 12:43 PM

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants. Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge.

You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole shebang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

busybee

05-30-2010, 10:53 PM

Man i really need to read up on this. I cant find a place to read about seeds. I need so much info, because i don't understand what is what. F1 cross? Is there an F2 and that means? So i need to find some reading that would educate me on this kinda shit that i really want to know.
:cool::rasta:

:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:D:jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

05-30-2010, 11:24 PM

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.

Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge./QUOTE]

Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.

[QUOTE]You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.

Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:

Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-30-2010, 11:28 PM

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.

Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge

Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.

You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:If ya like i might be able to look for one or two for you, if ya want Rusty. She uses them to cover plants she starts, sorta like a humidity dome as she covers it, works great.

I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.

Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:

Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta:

LetsSeeYa

05-30-2010, 11:56 PM

:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:D:jointsmile:

ROTFLMAO, thats funny man:thumbsup:. I have a few botany books. I needed them for a bonsai book, i had a tough time getting through and haven't finished yet. Growing MJ just has taken over since last year. My oldest i thought had died, because i put it out and fried the thing, but saw new growth today. I really need to re pot it and cut it back a bunch, lol. Oh well, it will pull through.

Thanks for stopping in man:rasta:

irydyum

05-31-2010, 12:01 AM

Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.

LetsSeeYa

05-31-2010, 12:23 AM

Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.

Well i freaking thought so. Thanks man, the 24/0 really never made any sense, but was a lazy thing i guess. Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.

Thanks Irydyum:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

05-31-2010, 12:47 PM

Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.
Thanks Irydyum:rasta:
A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)

LetsSeeYa

05-31-2010, 04:54 PM

A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)

Yeah Rusty i thought it could hermy, but im dealing with a strain im unsure of. To bad i didn't know the strain, but came from good genetics. Thats why i want to use the pollen on something i can identify, like the NL#5, or the Edna as it would be the best growing at the time. Its getting great branch growth and bushing out. But its the way i trimmed it, by keeping buds that was on the outer part of the plant. Something i will remember next re veg.

Im really hoping to get the NL growing out a bit better. Its healthy, but growing straight up, thats why i thought if i can pull out the branches with rubber bands, the inner growth might fill itself in. This is true with the Skunk x NL too.

I will be able to get some pics up today of new growth. Had a bit of twisted leaf growth on the Edna and was thinking i gave a bit much ferts. Its not real bad, just 3 leaves i think. Its been really hot here too and have same issue with a smaller one, but looks better since iv put it in the ground. Also, its grown more then any of the others in the ''family'' plants, or unknown strains.

Im on 12/12 since last night.

Thanks Rusty:rasta:

blowsterke

05-31-2010, 07:21 PM

I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.

Verry much succes this year.

Blowsterke

LetsSeeYa

05-31-2010, 10:41 PM

I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.

Well Blowstrerke, you should post them, id like to see them. Im really hoping my NL#5 gets big, its one of the finest smoke iv ever had, i just luv the taste and doesnt put me to sleep right away. But helps me sleep when i want too.

Very much success this year Blowsterke, to you too:hippy:

I didn't get a chance to get pics today, just to damn hot. But i did have a question for someone. How long will my pollen last in the fridge, because its going to be around August before i could use it i think. Of course this is a guess, but at least to or around that time. Any one know, cuz there is no point taking it if its not going to last that long?

Thanks, muchly:D

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-01-2010, 12:28 AM

Well so it was about to rain and i took the opportunity to take a few pic's right before it started. It was coming down a bit, but not enough for me to miss out on what they look like just before a good soaking. They look great, right before it rains.

In order they go

Edna, looking very nice, but a couple twisted leaves.

NL, which is looking better everyday.

Skunk 1 x NL 5, needs to get bigger, but is behind the other two.

WiTarHar, this was crossed with great genetics including Lowryder 2 for outdoor fast growing. I hope to either take clones, or give a bit of pollen too. It was breed in Holland, so keeping it is very important to me. Iv got one up and a friend has one up, so lets hope they can get together and do their thang;)

5 gal plant, which would be the biggest of the ''family''. Was going to SOG it, but not sure now that the other bigger one got chopped:wtf:

Next post is ''family'' members that i have put in place of the chopped ones with balls.

Lets hope they do well, because i only have one i could replace them with if they get nuts. Not sure of the 2 way out in the woods as P didn't show up to feed them. I guess im glad it rained as the ferts can sink better into the ground and they will grow a couple inches. They always do when i get a good over night soaking:thumbsup:

Enjoy:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-01-2010, 01:02 AM

So here are a couple pic's of the ''family'', one has a bit of fert burn one her, but with good new growth coming in at the top.

Also i took a pic of the 5gal plant, only a bit closer. Its got ok branch growth, but not as good as id like. So i may fim a branch or two. I have noticed a reddish color at the top of this plant, which as did a few other ''family'' plants. If it gets really big, il cut the bottom off and plant the pot in the ground, lets just hope it does:jointsmile:I would need some help with this tho.:wtf:

So this would be all of them, but one i have in a coffee container, cuz i ran outta pots, lol. Im thinking of just letting it grow in it all year. It would be to stressful i think to dig it out as the container is an odd shape, but this bottom could be cut off as well. This plant was put into a much to big of container as it should of been put in one that roots would fill the pot. Its now just really starting to grow, so i guess the roots are filling up in there. I will get a pic of this one in the afternoon, damn camera wouldn't turn on for me to get one.

Peace:weedpoke::rasta:

Charbud

06-01-2010, 01:09 PM

LetsSeeYa

06-01-2010, 02:19 PM

Plants are looking nice LSY. Sorry to hear to got another male, I grew outside once and thought i had the best plant inside because it was the biggest and strongest but it turned out to me a man ! I got a couple questions bout ur cfl grow you did arounf the time of my one. I saw this by DrBud on another site and it was truely inspirational, he really shows what cfls can do in producing a lot of ganja without the need of lst etc. Im sure you will find it interesting ***DrBud Takes CFL SOG to the Next Level*** - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=88449) So my questions are what bulbs did you use for flower ? obviously 2700k but this guy uses 42 watt bulbs which i cant find anywhere here in the uk. Is there a watt equivalent between cfls in the states and the uk ?

Keep up good work man :jointsmile:

Yeah char, hows it going bro:hippy:I started out using 27w cfl's, but then after all the reading, people were saying 27k to bud and 65k for veg. Until i got to reading about a mix spectrum and found that IMO it made sense. So, i started to buy a few 23w cfl's and put a few in the mix. So i basically had half 27w and 23w through most of the grow. Now it was my first experience with growing inside, but i was happy in the end. I think with cfl's the bigger, the more they might penetrate better. But, if you can get side lighting in your grow it would equal the same as using the 42w cfl's. It might take more then if you were using all 42w's, but in the end a mix of different bulbs i believe will be just as good. But there are people who switch out to 23w cfl's which are 27k to flower. There is a big difference in the brightness, to the human eye as the 23's are not as bright to the eye that is. There is a website you could order them from, or on ebay iv found a lot of cfl's there as well. I saw a sale the other day that was in the paper, selling 8 cfl's for 9.99, which is the cheapest iv ever seen, to bad i was broke. 1000lights.com i know sells just about any light ya need and iv seen that a lot of people use that site. But, i think the more you can put on your plants, with different spectrum's works well and i will continue to grow just as i did last indoor grow.

Hope this helps man and if ya need me to i could get some and mail em to ya, if you cant find what you want. I have a paypal account, which could make things easy.

Let me know bro,:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-01-2010, 10:16 PM

So, im thinking i really dont need all of them to open, but just how many do i need to open, before i can get the plant outta here. But just how long should i wait before taking pollen? Also, how long will the pollen last in my fridge?

Thanks everyone:rasta:

irydyum

06-01-2010, 11:08 PM

LetsSeeYa

06-01-2010, 11:34 PM

If you are super anxious to get rid of him you can cut a limb off and leave it in water for the next couple days on a windowsill or something. The flowers should continue to open.

You only need probably one "cluster" worth or so to create seeds. Each single pollen grain has the capacity to reproduce with a single calyx, so really you only need a couple flowers worth. I would try to get as much as possible if I were you, just to ensure success.

I read that pollen can be stored in the freezer for up to several months. However, you must be sure that it's COMPLETELY dry to maintain viability. Moisture is the nemesis of pollen. Try hard to separate any male flower material from the actual pollen with a screen or something to prevent a wet piece of flower from killing pollen when you store it.

Hope this is what you were looking for:thumbsup:
C-ya

Thanks irydyum, thats just what i needed. I knew that moisture isn't a good thing when it comes to pollen. But the main thing i was unsure of was how Long it would keep. I plan to let a few open before i collect anything from it, that way im sure to get some and just not waste my time.

I was surprised they started to open this fast. I hope my plants way outta here didn't get balls, cuz my dude didn't show up to check em. Oh well, i guess thats what i get:wtf:theres only 2.

Thanks man:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-02-2010, 10:45 PM

Well it was a good day for pic's and my camera was working:wtf:Damn thing stop working while at my kids graduation, i was pissed. But i guess if ya charge the batteries, it will make the camera work,:wtf:.''Can ya say dumb ass''

Anyway, the rain made em grow just like i had thought, nice:) I got at least 3-4 inches on the Edna, so i posted them as the first two. Yeah i had to put two up, cuz i wasn't sure which looked the best. Oh and i tossed my pak of smokes down to show size, but not sure it will work or not. Lets hope i don't post the same pic, lol.

Next would be the Skunk 1 x NL 5. Its starting to bush out a bit more as it gets bigger. I sure would like this one to be a monster plant. With its cross it makes for some pretty potent shit man. I can only use it at night and iv smoked for 29 years, so i can handle the higher stuff. But id end up curled up in bed for the day and not get shit done, so i use it for sleep and pain, works great:stoned:.

The next pic is the NL which is the best iv ever had before. It keeps ya going and helps with my issues, but doesnt put you to sleep till ya want it to, then work great. But if i need to smoke in the day, thats what i would use to get me through a tough day without crashing. I really only smoke at night, so you could call me a ''midnight toker'' sorta smoker. But on occasion i will have a bit to make things a bit more interesting. I will concentrate better sometime if iv indulged in the afternoon, or once and a while il wake an bake, but its been a long time since iv done that. Gotta say though, it goes great with coffee:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-02-2010, 11:21 PM

Well my NL plants got pistils all over and hope its doing ok. I just hope its not trying to start to flower yet. These pic's didn't show as well as i had wished they would.

Then a ''family'' pic im calling Maxine, lol. If you cant tell, do not ask. This was the only thing i had at the time to put her in, but shes gotten to big for me to mess with her now. So, its a permanent thing for her as iv grown a 4' ter in a gallon jug that was only half full of soil. I need to move it though, it could get better sun then where shes at.

Then there is the 5 gal plant:hippy: i want to do a SOG with her, but im not sure if its to late. I should have bent her over a month ago to get stated. The branch growth looks better everyday, so will see what happens. I got this idea, but its one of those things that either gets done when i feel like it or she just grows:wtf:sorta lame, but gotta lot on the plate right now. I tried to get her top as its a nice pink, like some of the other ''family'' members have looked.

:weedpoke: havin fun yet:rasta:

JungleSuperstar

06-02-2010, 11:27 PM

LetsSeeYa

06-02-2010, 11:45 PM

Yes i posted wrong plant and forgot my male plant, thats started to open his flowers. So the first 2 are the male plant im growing in a box to try and make some beans. I could just pollenate a female and grow em out next grow, but im on a mission to make the best beans i can. So i need to grow a bunch of plants and keep my shit straight. That means i really need to label everything and only use the best plants grown. I am not sure which one to pllenate first, but i have one with great genetics in it and was breed in Holland. If she does well il put some on her, but would like to pull in the NL as well at some point. My plans are to do this right, no short cuts:thumbsup:

And then here is the 5 gal plant, lets see if there is any difference between the other post pic an this one, cuz its only a couple days.

Hope you enjoy the pics, cuz my arm is about ready to fall off from typing, geez man:cool:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-02-2010, 11:58 PM

edna looks real nice man lovely and green:thumbsup::jointsmile: the others look good too (dnt get jelous lil planties) just edna is a beast:jointsmile: mine get munched she looks clean, how u keep the bugs off her?

good job man keep it up:thumbsup:

Hey man the Edna is the best looking so far, but the Skunk x NL is catching up a bit. I have been lucky i guess, but when you start them inside then set them in the shade a couple weeks. The bugs don't mess with them as much, but since iv moved the 5gal, shes been getting a few bugs. If you make some soapy water and just splash it all over the plant, they will leave them alone. Just make sure the sun is as close to down or at dark, cuz last year when i put it on mine, i burn the shit outta them. But they came back fine. It was cloudy as hell and the wind was blowing so i thought id be fine, but burned em cuz the sun came out and the wind slowed down:wtf:

Try it, it will work and its cheap:thumbsup:

Keep er green man:weedpoke::rasta:

JungleSuperstar

06-03-2010, 12:12 AM

sweet man what sorta mix ratio?
:jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

06-03-2010, 12:53 AM

sweet man what sorta mix ratio?
:jointsmile:

Just plan ol soapy water. I had ask my step-dad what would keep the bugs off my maters and he said that after they would wash cloths, they would take all the left over water and splash it on their garden. What i did was put some of that liquid soap in a gallon and filled it with water. Then just drenched them with it, but like i said, not in the sun. It fried mine, but they came right back. Also, if it rains ya gotta reapply it, cuz the rain will wash it off.

Good luck man, :rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-03-2010, 01:37 PM

Is that a male in the Maxwell House pot? If not, how are you planning to transplant? Just something to keep in mind for other members that do the same. :thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-03-2010, 02:58 PM

Is that a male in the Maxwell House pot? If not, how are you planning to transplant? Just something to keep in mind for other members that do the same. :thumbsup:

''So this would be all of them, but one i have in a coffee container, cuz i ran outta pots, lol. Im thinking of just letting it grow in it all year. It would be to stressful i think to dig it out as the container is an odd shape, but this bottom could be cut off as well. This plant was put into a much to big of container as it should of been put in one that roots would fill the pot. Its now just really starting to grow, so i guess the roots are filling up in there. I will get a pic of this one in the afternoon, damn camera wouldn't turn on for me to get one.''

Rusty this was posted in the page before this one:thumbsup: last post. I would not advise this either, but like i said, i was out of pots and was the only option to save it from dying.

Plus if pople just look through a thread to just look at pic's and are not reading it, then they are not here to learn as you and i know the two go hand an hand. Maybe i should have explained it again, but i already had, so to me there was no piont in saying it again.:hippy:

So, what do you think of the re veg so far? I know you have not done one outside before, but was wondering if the growth is up to par, from the time i started to now?

Takes for stopping in Rusty:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-03-2010, 03:43 PM

I saw the post, but was:
A) curious if you were really going to leave her to suffer, or if there was a transplant in her future.
B) trying to warn other's of the folly of putting a plant into a container with a smaller opening than the rootball. Speaking of which, how was the yield of your last "Maxine", and did it take longer to finish?

Were it mine, I'd cut the jug open and transplant.

Your babies look great. Almost wish I could take mine outside. But were I growing outdoors, I'd have to stake the plants down to an almost horizontal grow. (no fences, and only short bushes for cover) Plus, the grasshoppers, chipmunks and rabbits are relentless here.

More importantly...how do YOU like 'em? Is a re-veg worth the effort?

blowsterke

06-03-2010, 05:28 PM

Is a re-veg worth the effort?
Jun-03-2010 08:58

I am trying this out in Holland, I also have revag an plants every year.

Nice topic you have Letseeya.:rastasmoke:

Charbud

06-03-2010, 10:03 PM

Yeah char, hows it going bro:hippy:I started out using 27w cfl's, but then after all the reading, people were saying 27k to bud and 65k for veg. Until i got to reading about a mix spectrum and found that IMO it made sense. So, i started to buy a few 23w cfl's and put a few in the mix. So i basically had half 27w and 23w through most of the grow. Now it was my first experience with growing inside, but i was happy in the end. I think with cfl's the bigger, the more they might penetrate better. But, if you can get side lighting in your grow it would equal the same as using the 42w cfl's. It might take more then if you were using all 42w's, but in the end a mix of different bulbs i believe will be just as good. But there are people who switch out to 23w cfl's which are 27k to flower. There is a big difference in the brightness, to the human eye as the 23's are not as bright to the eye that is. There is a website you could order them from, or on ebay iv found a lot of cfl's there as well. I saw a sale the other day that was in the paper, selling 8 cfl's for 9.99, which is the cheapest iv ever seen, to bad i was broke. 1000lights.com i know sells just about any light ya need and iv seen that a lot of people use that site. But, i think the more you can put on your plants, with different spectrum's works well and i will continue to grow just as i did last indoor grow.

Hope this helps man and if ya need me to i could get some and mail em to ya, if you cant find what you want. I have a paypal account, which could make things easy.

Let me know bro,:rasta:

I emailed a big company over in the US and no reply. Missing out on my custom! Im going to have another look now but if i cant find any that ship over here it would be great if you could do me a favour ! and i trust ya LSY even though i never met you !

With the soapy water you dont need much to kill insects. I was watching a gardening show and they were keeping green fly of some kind of vegetable and they added 1 drop to a litre of water and misted it onto the leaves, at night like you did so you dont cook em !

:jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

06-03-2010, 10:53 PM

I saw the post, but was:
A) curious if you were really going to leave her to suffer, or if there was a transplant in her future.

Well Rusty at this point, i guess shes there to survive. ''Family'' plant that was the weakest of my poor attempt to germ seeds in a way iv never tried. Issue turned out to be lack of perlite. This loan girl sorta got left behind the others as they went into the ground as they got ready. Which before this, they needed a bunch of tlc to pull out of the bad germ attempt. I guess it was ignored as only the good ones were worth putting into my comfort zone. But ''Maxine'' never gave up:clap:so i have a plant in a pot id stress to much if i transplant now, but don't have the heart to:chainsaw:because it might be a female and if impressed, il cut it open. ''Catch 22''

B) trying to warn other's of the folly of putting a plant into a container with a smaller opening than the rootball. Speaking of which, how was the yield of your last "Maxine", and did it take longer to finish?

This was to be a temp thing and knew that it was first of all to big of pot for such a small seedling. And then i might of thought of issues with re potting. The plant was to be scoop out and put in a different pot soon after. But not improving and others were, i ran out of room before this plant looked good at all. Last year i just chucked my seeds in a big pot of dirt, they popped and i transplanted 2-3 times before putting them into the ground. I did things a bit different this year and some are working, some not. They luv to be re potted and makes them grow faster IMO. But started inside to get a good start and messed up my seeds. So i had got pots from everyplace in the house to save them.

Last plant i grew in a gallon milk jug was a long time ago. I had started way to many plants around here, i woke up and started pulling them. As to the jug plant that was only filled with only a small bit of soil in it, grew 4'. It finished before any of the others, because it grew with only about 2 hours of direct light. Also, it was a male plant, but very new to growing and so at this point im just looking at the biggest MJ plant id ever grown. But in the end of the season, the smallest plant i grew was the best. It was like something i had smoked 20 years ago, with such a sweet taste. I might have got maybe 4joints off her, i pulled off a bud an she would grow another. My friend came over, i said ''ya gotta see this'', he pointed and said ''male cut it down''. Are you kidding me,:(

Were it mine, I'd cut the jug open and transplant.

Not if you had enough in one area. If it is indeed a female and starts getting big, i will cut it open and put it out some place other then here. But keeping it in its current container is best as of now, because the roots are hitting the sides and bigining to grow above ground very well. Had i known the worst of the seedlings would have turn out this nice, it would be in the ground by now. And when and if i do the rootball will great for outdoor growing. It would get big. If i do id wait till the end of this month, the pot was to big in the first place and wasnt meant to be its home, so it would need more time to be where the others were before put into the ground.

Your babies look great. Almost wish I could take mine outside. But were I growing outdoors, I'd have to stake the plants down to an almost horizontal grow. (no fences, and only short bushes for cover) Plus, the grasshoppers, chipmunks and rabbits are relentless here.

I think you would like it Rusty:thumbsup:if ya did only one, once a year. Just being outside around them while the sun is bathing them feels great. And maybe just as a switch of growing styles. I can see ya growing one around your house, just one big shrub:D

More importantly...how do YOU like 'em? Is a re-veg worth the effort?

Well the Edna is doing great, but that has to do with where i pruned it. The Skunk x NL is coming around better everyday, but the NL plant didnt get pruned at a place where branch growth could spread out as its maturing. But with pulling out the outter branches im hoping it will catch up, or get close to the other two. If not it will just grow taller then like a bush, which is what im trying to achieve with them.

I would never grow a plant with out re vegging it. It makes no sense not to take advantage of what is in front of you. As soon as i saw your thread i was hooked, heck i bugged you enough for you to know. Did my best to get all the info i could get from you and everytime i check out your thread, looks like iv posted more then you:wtf:. But, now im thinking how a person can re veg a re veg, lol. Its in the back of my head and keep wondering if it could happen. Maybe will see one day:D

Thanks Rusty:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-03-2010, 11:19 PM

Kinda figured. I know how it is with not wanting to cull her. But, you get used to it after a while. You start slowly with males, advance to hermies...and before you know it you're culling with the best of 'em. :D
(or, you could plant her sideways...;) )

For me, it's not even worth trying outdoors with the vermin and bugs, and heat, and wind, and no shade, no fences, and...I'm doing fine where I am, lol. Once they carbon tax our electric bill beyond affordability, I'll make some changes and build a greenhouse.

Was just making sure you're still satisfied with the re-veg technique.
Keep up the good work. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-03-2010, 11:20 PM

I emailed a big company over in the US and no reply. Missing out on my custom! Im going to have another look now but if i cant find any that ship over here it would be great if you could do me a favour ! and i trust ya LSY even though i never met you !:

Ya dont gotta worry about me man, im not that kind of low life. I have a few people i call friends and your one of them. No we have never met, but il bet we would get along and i can only say i wouldnt do ya wrong. I could never come back to the site man, thats way to much for a few bucks. Just let me know bro, i got ya:hippy:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-04-2010, 04:05 PM

Kinda figured. I know how it is with not wanting to cull her. But, you get used to it after a while. You start slowly with males, advance to hermies...and before you know it you're culling with the best of 'em. :D
(or, you could plant her sideways...;) )

Yeah i guess, but just in the past couple weeks while its been raining, the thing looks so much better. And i think your right about the getting used to culling a female, lol.

For me, it's not even worth trying outdoors with the vermin and bugs, and heat, and wind, and no shade, no fences, and...I'm doing fine where I am, lol. Once they carbon tax our electric bill beyond affordability, I'll make some changes and build a greenhouse.

Ya know Rusty, after i had said and posted that, i had remembered you live in that really bad heat. Slipped my mind, but im sure you could make it happen:thumbsup:. A greenhouse would be great! I would grow all kinds of things in it and use it for the hobby.

Was just making sure you're still satisfied with the re-veg technique.
Keep up the good work. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Luv the re veg and will always use it. I can never understand why a person wouldnt.

But i have a question Rusty, My NL has a bunch of 3 finger leaves and was told that it would be flowering. He said after budding, leaves grow 2-3 finger leaves, but veg would be 5-7, so if this is true, my plant is trying to flower, or i never got it to the veg stage, but was re vegged over 68 days i believe, give or take a day. Have and idea? Or do you need pic's as the cross has a few also:wtf:guess im worried a bit now till i can clarify this.

Thanks Rusty, great to have you in here:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-04-2010, 07:23 PM

Ummm...Perhaps it's me, but could re-phrase the last part? Not sure what you're asking.

LetsSeeYa

06-04-2010, 08:23 PM

Ummm...Perhaps it's me, but could re-phrase the last part? Not sure what you're asking.

''hi LSY,dont know why its true,all i know is this-they start 1leaf then 3-7-9,then when they flower its reversed,your main buds only have 1-3 fingered leaves maybe rusty or headshake know why?''

I was told this and never really saw this or read it and 2 of the re vegged ones have a few 3 fingered leaves. Just curious i guess. I was worried as i thought i had more 3 then 5,7 fingered leaves, but after looking at them today was wrong. But its been raining and they have really grown. I gave ferts yesterday and the plant are really luvin them. But still don't really know the answer as if this is true and could it be an indicator to know when the re vegged plant is out of flower stage and in complete veg mode?

Thanks once more Rusty:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-04-2010, 09:05 PM

Ok i went out to see how bad my ladies were pounded by the rain and took the camera with me, just in case,lol. Well the first pic is a ''family'' plant i took a pic of 2 days ago and didn't post her. She had gotten i believe burned by nutes at the bottom, but was looking better. Anyway i fed them all yesterday, cuz when it rains, i believe the ferts get down better into the ground. So, when i went out i knew things would look better, but the second pic shows it as its the same plant, just two days later:jointsmile:

The forth is a plant that would be a part of my attempt to make seeds. With low ryder 2 in her crossed with other good genetics from Holland makes sense to use her:detective1:. She hasn't really taken off like i had thought she would, but its only been there 6 days and was a bit smaller then i like to put them out. But i had to replace that big ass male i:chainsaw:, because its a great hole:rambo:and will use it every year.

The forth pic is the 5gal plant which was leaning over so bad. The rain came down hard for at least a good 20 min. I bent her back a bit, but got no more then in the door and it pouring rain again. But they luv this rain and lightning and getting the ferts out makes it even better:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-04-2010, 09:29 PM

Had to get the re vegged ones two. They are some sorts of a mystery to me, because i have no idea just how well they will produce for me. Also, the NL is the best meds i think iv had. The cross is great two, but night time only or your locked for the night:stoned:. And the Edna has an up buzz but hits me more like the Skunk x NL sometime. I guess it depends on time of day when i use it. They look much better then in these little pics. I just previewed them and feel like i wasted my time. Maybe if ya blow em up you can see the difference? But, in these, i cant.:wtf:

1. Skunk 1 X NL 5, starting to grow out more, but the storm helped her i think

2. NL 5, i really hope i can clone her, iv never done it before, but reading now

3. Edna, she just keeps getting bigger,

See Ya:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-04-2010, 10:40 PM

''hi LSY,dont know why its true,all i know is this-they start 1leaf then 3-7-9,then when they flower its reversed,your main buds only have 1-3 fingered leaves maybe rusty or headshake know why?'' Frankly, I don't know. I do know that when severely stressed, they'll weird-out with varying numbers of fingers or elongated ones. The symptom fades as they settle-in.

You can tell they are re-vegging when they start new vegetative growth. Likely they'll start pumping-out pistils all over the place since they're technically sexually mature, but shouldn't actually bud till after summer.

Hope this helps. :thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-04-2010, 10:52 PM

Frankly, I don't know. I do know that when severely stressed, they'll weird-out with varying numbers of fingers or elongated ones. The symptom fades as they settle-in.

You can tell they are re-vegging when they start new vegetative growth. Likely they'll start pumping-out pistils all over the place since they're technically sexually mature, but shouldn't actually bud till after summer.

Hope this helps. :thumbsup:

Ooh thanks Rusty:thumbsup: My NL is really pumping out the pistils for sure. Iv never seen a plant with so many. I thought it was starting to bud there are that many. And more each day, i sure wish i would had cut her better, but anyway it would have still been a bit tight in the middle.

But next time i germ a seed il be thinking re veg and will lst for branch growth to grow outward.

Thanks man:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

06-05-2010, 12:28 AM

Ooh thanks Rusty:thumbsup: My NL is really pumping out the pistils for sure. Iv never seen a plant with so many. I thought it was starting to bud there are that many. And more each day, i sure wish i would had cut her better, but anyway it would have still been a bit tight in the middle.

But next time i germ a seed il be thinking re veg and will lst for branch growth to grow outward.

Thanks man:rasta:

i think this is what is going on with mine i have alot better pics now but ill have to put them on later

LetsSeeYa

06-06-2010, 03:35 PM

i think this is what is going on with mine i have alot better pics now but ill have to put them on later

Well sticky, mine was re vegged, so i guess i should have expected it. Thats great man, luv to see what ya got going on there bro,:cool:

Sun:rasta:

Charbud

06-06-2010, 04:47 PM

Ya dont gotta worry about me man, im not that kind of low life. I have a few people i call friends and your one of them. No we have never met, but il bet we would get along and i can only say i wouldnt do ya wrong. I could never come back to the site man, thats way to much for a few bucks. Just let me know bro, i got ya:hippy:

:rasta:

I know your not a low life !, genuinely i do trust you, i think everyone on the site knows your a nice guy ;).

I looked up the import duties and taxes from stuff sent from america. Commercial packages up the value of £18 will not be taxed but over they will. And gifts up to the value of £40 wont be taxed, which is good as the bulbs cos £40.08 :D. So you may have to slip a bday card in the parcel to make it into a gift, with a note like 'your a douche for buying me lightbulbs for my birthday' or something like that....then i rekon we'd get away with it being a gift. :D I found the right bulbs and everything so its just a matter of time till i can get the last bit of money together and ill send you a private message to figure out shipping costs and a lil bit of money on the side for your good doings :thumbsup:

StickyBuds1987

06-06-2010, 09:38 PM

Well sticky, mine was re vegged, so i guess i should have expected it. Thats great man, luv to see what ya got going on there bro,:cool:

Sun:rasta:

Well im down to 4 plants now it was the smallest out of the bunch damn those rabbits lol. Anyways i really wanna see how your re vegged plant turns out if it turns out good are ya gonna start doing it every year, do re vegged plants produce more yield??? :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

06-07-2010, 12:24 AM

I know your not a low life !, genuinely i do trust you, i think everyone on the site knows your a nice guy ;).

I looked up the import duties and taxes from stuff sent from america. Commercial packages up the value of £18 will not be taxed but over they will. And gifts up to the value of £40 wont be taxed, which is good as the bulbs cos £40.08 :D. So you may have to slip a bday card in the parcel to make it into a gift, with a note like 'your a douche for buying me lightbulbs for my birthday' or something like that....then i rekon we'd get away with it being a gift. :D I found the right bulbs and everything so its just a matter of time till i can get the last bit of money together and ill send you a private message to figure out shipping costs and a lil bit of money on the side for your good doings :thumbsup:

I really never thought about any sorta ''duties'' or tax to send something in the damn mail:wtf:. So im glad you know what to do to get it there. Would they actually open the package to see that indeed, its a gift? That seems whack to me, but im no world traveler thats for sure. Never even seen the ocean before, just lake Erie, lol. And by the way man, i don't need anything for picking up a few lights and tossing them in the mail, so don't even think about that.

But id like to stick a couple Edna beans in there, if i can get them in a good place of the packaging of the lights. Its up to you bro, but i think you will like her. Not over powering, but very nice smoke. The thing is getting huge man. We had rain for a week and everything shot up, but the Edna is growing like a ''weed'', lol. My 5 gal plant just about was bent in half so i put a y stick in the bucket to keep her standing, but still is able to move with the wind. Im sure i could tape like 4 beans some place that would look like it was packaged that way. Before anything, id take a pic of where it is and get your ok:hippy:, so whatcha thinking about getting, because sometimes there is deals around town on them. You should shot me an email, so i could give you a list of stores that have good deals. Just an idea, but im at yahoo.com, s/n should be easy to figure out,

Just let me know man an try a send an email so i can give you my info, that way you could search the area for the best deal, i think it would be cheaper then getting them on line, but we can compare. Cuz if ya like something, i could call them and get the run down an all:thumbsup:

Later bro:rasta:

Charbud

06-07-2010, 01:08 PM

Rusty i got your rep comment. I will take it to email with lsy. Couldnt reply on rep because i 'need to spread some rep' !

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Sorry for mini hijack aswell lsy :D

LetsSeeYa

06-07-2010, 02:32 PM

Rusty i got your rep comment. I will take it to email with lsy. Couldnt reply on rep because i 'need to spread some rep' !

edit:

Sorry for mini hijack aswell lsy :D

Dude post anything you want in here, there is no such thing as hijacking when you post here:thumbsup:

Really,:cool:never worry about that, ever:thumbsup:

:rasta:

JungleSuperstar

06-07-2010, 07:36 PM

evertything looks great man all coming along nice EDNA is still looking amazing if she wasnt on another continent far away i wud come and ravage her with my penis in the night.... no but seriuosly she is BOOMING, will have to talk about that comment u wrote in my rep message ;)can u send private messages on this site... oh yeh cheers for the rep aswell:D:thumbsup::jointsmile:

by the way is edna a standard grow or lst? top? fim? and is she re-veg? clone? seed?
e z :stoned:

Joefarmer

06-07-2010, 11:12 PM

LSY, just read through your thread. Lookin' good.

I'm sorta doing a re-veg too, but it was only to sex them and choose a mother. They weren't flowered. They're 3 mos old now and have been back on 18/6 for 3 weeks. I've chosen 2 moms and will put the rest outside. Here's a pic of the mother rejects. You can check my thread too. Search "Hempy Time".

LetsSeeYa

06-07-2010, 11:27 PM

The looked good today as the rain finally stopped and the re vegged plants are getting bigger. The Edna is shooting new branches from every place it seems. I took a couple of it and the NL as id have to say they are in the lead so far. The Skunk x NL is the 3rd pic. I was telling a friend i was a bit disappointed as to their growth. But he reminded me of the fact that June just started:wtf:. Last year my plants were not close to being this big. Even my ''family'' plants are bigger then last year, even though i just about killed them while in the seedling stage. Not enough perlite, but that will never happen again.

I have a few pics after this post that im having issues with. Just waiting for pic's to load:wtf::thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-07-2010, 11:49 PM

The 5gal was so bent over i had to prop it up with a y stick. Im sure it would have been ok, but hated seeing it looking like that. The 2nd pic is doing well. Its one of the ''family'' plants i took a pic of last post showing the fast growth, but its gotten even bigger then before and now would have to say its probably the biggest of the ''family''. The WiTarHar plant which i want to pollinate hasn't really grown that much, some but not like im used to. Im not sure what the issue could be. I could have got it a bit deeper and wish i would have, but it looked ok as i left it, hope thats not the cause. But its rained a bunch for the past few days and the sun really hasn't been out much till today, so im hoping that will boost them up in the next few days:jointsmile:

Ops i guess iv cropped out the y stick:(

See Ya:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-08-2010, 04:43 PM

If anyone had wondered how these plants looked like before they were re vegged. In these pic's they have been re potted one time, but roots were trimmed on each side and bottom. Then, they were placed in the same pot and filled in with fresh soil. After they filled the new soil, i re potted into a bigger pot and started acclimating to the outdoors. I put them in the shade to get only 2-3 hours of the sun setting. So, they got light all day, but only what penetrated through the trees and the few direct hours at sun set. I did this for a bit over a week, then put them into the ground.

So, i guess if anyone had questions about how to get a plant to re veg, without leaves on your plant, this is what i did. This would be hard to do inside without trimming correctly. The Edna was trimmed perfect, got lucky. The NL i would have to say was the worst as you see the buds are so close, now the new growth is growing straight up words. Now the Skunk x NL sorta grew like a vine at times. It was sorta strange as it grew out branches, but never really hardened off like a branch. But because of this, i believe its helped me re veg it as it is naturally growing like it did before. The growth is growing out with a lazy sorta attitude as the branches grow out, they seem to fall of to the sides of the plant. This makes it grow like a bush, plus lets light get into the inside growth and helps it veg faster then the NL. The NL is growing very tight without light helping the plant bush out like i want. I will be spreading out the branches of the NL to help the inner part of the plant get better sun light in hopes that it will start to bush out.

Thanks a lot for everyone who has stopped in with a comment or not. It would be difficult to do this without help, questions and just over all discussion:cool:

The order of pic's is Edna, NL, Skunk x NL, ,:D also these were taken 4-19:)

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-08-2010, 09:56 PM

Good day for pics even though they look just about the same as last post. Well maybe a bit better, at least you can see how big the plants are thanks to my cat. She keeps going out and trying to dig up my dog:mad:, but a friend came over a put chicken wire on him with concrete blocks holding it in place. I wasn't sure what was trying to dig em up till i saw her out laying on his grave. That cat luved my dog.

Going to rain again so im pushing ferts hard. When i see some burn il slow it up a bit, but want to build on what dose im giving. Each time i add a bit more and so far iv been good. But the rain continues to keep the ground wet, so i gotta believe that it is weakening the ferts im giving. So i guess il just keep giving them more till the rain slows a bit as i have not gave any plain water in over a week, because of all the rain. Also, the ferts are 15-20-15, just some all purpose stuff i got around the house. I used it last year, but just didn't stop before harvest in time and was left with a very bad tasting harvest. The FF nutes i have will be saved for indoor only as this stuff will get them where i want them. Then il use the goodies that were gifted to build up my buds and have a much better tasting crop that im not giving away this year, lol.

Anyway Edna, Skunk x NL, NL, WiTarHar looking really bad, 5 gal plant much better:hippy:

My cat is about average size just to have an idea and the plant she's by is the NL which is about five times smaller then the Edna and just a bit taller as the cross, but not as bushy:smokin:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-10-2010, 08:21 PM

Rusty Trichome

06-10-2010, 08:38 PM

Are the other plants just handling the bugs better, or are they even under attack?

LetsSeeYa

06-10-2010, 10:15 PM

Are the other plants just handling the bugs better, or are they even under attack?

Well outside there is usually the munch here an there, but if kept in good shape and the bigger they are the less they attract. But this is an all out buffet on this important plant. I have mixed some garlic an water with a bit of soap and now im adding ammonia in it. From my goggle the snails don't like any of these, but most of all the ammonia. Its sunny as hell but i cant do it any other time, so put this crap on or dig it up? Which iv learned not to do this in the sun as it will just burn up the plant. I cant make up my own mind i guess, either isn't a good plan. Id like to just put a shit load of ammonia down around the plant. Copper will work for snails too, but i don't have any?

Not sure what im going to do, but gotta save this one its my last bean of this strain and first really living plant iv had from them, funny thing is their breed for outside.

:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

06-11-2010, 03:48 AM

Well outside there is usually the munch here an there, but if kept in good shape and the bigger they are the less they attract. But this is an all out buffet on this important plant. I have mixed some garlic an water with a bit of soap and now im adding ammonia in it. From my goggle the snails don't like any of these, but most of all the ammonia. Its sunny as hell but i cant do it any other time, so put this crap on or dig it up? Which iv learned not to do this in the sun as it will just burn up the plant. I cant make up my own mind i guess, either isn't a good plan. Id like to just put a shit load of ammonia down around the plant. Copper will work for snails too, but i don't have any?

Not sure what im going to do, but gotta save this one its my last bean of this strain and first really living plant iv had from them, funny thing is their breed for outside.

:rasta:

I read somewhere on here that you could place a cup of beer by them and the snails will get in it and die never tried it out or anything hope you can get rid of the buggers and save ya plant:thumbsup:

CovertCarpenter

06-11-2010, 04:25 AM

Well so iv never had a plant i put into the ground just stop growing before. I saw a damn snail on it and before i could get it, it buried itself in the ground. So its eating the roots or the leaf hoppers are just eating to much which is keeping my plant from getting sun. the PIC IS ABOVE, BUT I ENLARGED IT fuck, im not re typing that. I might try garlic and soap, but if the damn snail is eating my roots then this is no good.shit

Heres the plant, any help would be great, im thinking about moving it, im pissed:rasta:

...I hear that diatomaceous earth (possibly available at your local gardening superstore) is kinda like them crawling across broken glass, and they just basically die from their wounds. It is safe for the plants, and for you :)

irydyum

06-11-2010, 07:25 AM

...I hear that diatomaceous earth (possibly available at your local gardening superstore) is kinda like them crawling across broken glass, and they just basically die from their wounds. It is safe for the plants, and for you :)

If you do get the diatomaceous earth, make sure it's food grade, not the crap for pools.

Then you can be sure it's safe for everyone:thumbsup:

Diatomaceous Earth As Natural Pest Control:
One of the more popular uses of DE is as a natural form of pest control. Because of the many tiny sharp edges on each specimen of DE, when it comes in contact with insects DE absorbs the waxy coating that covers the insect, causing a laceration of the exposed tissue. This is aggravated by the insects writhing. The insect dies from dehydration, usually within a few hours.

It may help with the lil ones, but I don't think it's gonna stand a chance against Mr. Snail.

JungleSuperstar

06-11-2010, 10:11 AM

looks like one of my plants what can u do....? the joys of growing outside.... but no seriuosly what can ya do i got slug reppellants. i just need to get sum soapy spray...

oldhaole

06-11-2010, 10:37 AM

Diamataious earth rapidly loses effectivness in humid conditions. Since you are still far from flower use the commercial stuff (ie Scotts) from a garden shop. Use a lot of it and destroy every snail within 20 ft of her. Repeat two weeks later. You should only need to do this once. Will not hurt your plants.

Rusty Trichome

06-11-2010, 11:54 AM

LetsSeeYa

06-11-2010, 02:26 PM

I read somewhere on here that you could place a cup of beer by them and the snails will get in it and die never tried it out or anything hope you can get rid of the buggers and save ya plant:thumbsup:

Yes this works, but every rain ya gotta put more in it and iv got leafhopper's bitting the leaves up bad too. Niem oil would be better, if my cash flow was,lol.

Thanks man:thumbsup:

...I hear that diatomaceous earth (possibly available at your local gardening superstore) is kinda like them crawling across broken glass, and they just basically die from their wounds. It is safe for the plants, and for you :)

Yeah also sand paper will work too. But its under ground i think is where the damn snail is getting the new root growth, only because its not growing as iv seen them grow before. It will be two weeks Sunday and the new growth looks weak. The stem is the only thing that has really grown bigger, so its got to be 2 issues. Snail and leafhopper's i believe. But once the plant gets bad the bugs see it as an easy target and attack it more so. This was according to the goggle info i got, but knew this from growing last year outside, but confirmed my theory:thumbsup:

Thanks man for stopping in:hippy:

If you do get the diatomaceous earth, make sure it's food grade, not the crap for pools.

Then you can be sure it's safe for everyone:thumbsup:

Diatomaceous Earth As Natural Pest Control:
One of the more popular uses of DE is as a natural form of pest control. Because of the many tiny sharp edges on each specimen of DE, when it comes in contact with insects DE absorbs the waxy coating that covers the insect, causing a laceration of the exposed tissue. This is aggravated by the insects writhing. The insect dies from dehydration, usually within a few hours.

It may help with the lil ones, but I don't think it's gonna stand a chance against Mr. Snail.

Well i put a mix of garlic, soap and a couple caps of ammonia on and around the plant. I about pucked man, the shit smelled so bad i was gagging before i could get out of the area. But if this doesnt help i might look into the DE.

Thanks Irydyum:jointsmile:

looks like one of my plants what can u do....? the joys of growing outside.... but no seriuosly what can ya do i got slug reppellants. i just need to get sum soapy spray...

Mix garlic and onions into it also, it will work better if you do:thumbsup:

Diamataious earth rapidly loses effectivness in humid conditions. Since you are still far from flower use the commercial stuff (ie Scotts) from a garden shop. Use a lot of it and destroy every snail within 20 ft of her. Repeat two weeks later. You should only need to do this once. Will not hurt your plants.

Well its something i may look into, because the spot is a good one and don't want to lose this hole. Its that its surrounded by tall grass is the reason. My other spots were cleaned out in April, but needed to put this plant in a place i knew would reap all the sun as possible. The mix i put out was really nasty and the ammonia is something that could get rid of the snail also read it can give N, but that is debatable.

Thanks for the help man:hippy:

Thanks so much for the help guys:thumbsup:great advise from everyone as everything mentioned i had read about, but wasn't sure which to use. But i appreciate all the replies to this issue. Its a really an important plant.

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-11-2010, 02:45 PM

She must be tasty...
If she's that important, I'd either use some pesticide for the vicinity. One that's guranteed to work, or take a couple of clones before it's too late, or pop her out and revive her indoors. At the very least, I'd definately quit with the garage remedies and go with what works. Careful with bringing bugs indoors too.

Not sure why this didn't come up on the multi post but yeah anyway, your right she must be taste. My other one that was bad from the leafhopper's pulled out of the funk and has nice new growth. This is way i believe there are two issues. The root ball isn't spreading out as the plant has to much movement at the lower stem. This makes me think the snail that got away from my efforts to kill it, is eating my new root growth. In this pic you can see what a snail did in just a couple days, but i killed that one.

If what i put out last night made the plant look a bit better i might let er be for a couple days, but if i go out here in the next hour or so im going to bring it in. And just might do that anyway to nurse it back to health. Had i not put the plant in the coffee container, that would have been the one in that spot. Oh well, i guess im out to see what happens, but im thinking il take it and bring it in and nurse it back to health. If there was a place to take a clone from i would, but there isn't enough plant there to take a clone, thats why i really didn't want to put it in the ground this early:wtf:, my mistake.

Thanks Rusty, il let everyone see it if i take it:rasta:

blowsterke

06-11-2010, 05:16 PM

Lets see ya,

My revagan amnesia started again with 5 fingers, and has got a lot of leaves, she will grow and shine later on.

Keep you posted.

Blowsterke,
have a nice weekend

LetsSeeYa

06-11-2010, 06:56 PM

Well i dug her up and put er in a pot. Looks better in 3 hours i think. All the crap i put on and around her last night to help with bugs was gone, well at least i couldn't smell it. And that stuff was nasty as hell. Il get a pic of what she looks like when my batteries charge:hippy:

:rasta:

JungleSuperstar

06-11-2010, 08:01 PM

But once the plant gets bad the bugs see it as an easy target and attack it more so. This was according to the goggle info i got, but knew this from growing last year outside, but confirmed my theory:thumbsup:

i have to agree with this just from my experience this year as soon as it gets munched a little bitt the bugs go crazy for it, so one of my youngers is set as a decoy as its getting munched more everyday but it is keeping them from
my beauties....:jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

06-12-2010, 03:37 PM

i have to agree with this just from my experience this year as soon as it gets munched a little bitt the bugs go crazy for it, so one of my youngers is set as a decoy as its getting munched more everyday but it is keeping them from
my beauties....:jointsmile:

Well according to my goggle, but will put out some sorta message to the other bugs that there is an easy target, but also it said the best thing you can do to prevent them is to keep your plants healthy. Your decoy i would think might attract more bugs then keep them only one the one plant. But i guess if it works, why not.

See Ya:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-12-2010, 04:52 PM

Here is a few pics of the damage my plant went through:wtf:. I will get a pic of another plant that was as small as this one, but planted in a different spot. The bugs had really had their way for a bit, but i knew if it got new growth, they would leave it alone, which they did. And also another which was small is thriving now. They just need to be big enough before put out, but these last few were the weakest after my germination method.

But as i want to get seeds from this plant i was too eager to put it into the ground, big mistake. I should have known this would have happen, but ignored it and i guess its my fault. So, i plan to baby it up where its not close to any high grass. Then as she gets healthy, i may put her back where she was, or around the re veg spot as these plants are about 98% untouched from bugs. The Edna was a few bites as well as the NL, but the Skunk x NL is pretty much without a bit on it.

When i went out, it just poured rain, not as i went out but as i got there. When i got back and went in it just stopped, sorta like ''ok hes in now'':wtf:. So as i made a bee line to get things done, i didnt know i had a plant laying on the ground, so i did my best to gather soil around it and did my best to mound it up. I am not able to get down to it, so i use the end of my rigged up weeding stick, which is basiclly a broken knife thats duct taped to a stick. It only goes about 2'' into the ground so i dont need to worry about hitting my plants roots while weeding them. Then it rained again last night which was a good thing, because it gets my ferts i gave down into the soil better and will probobly give more today as its going to rain again.

I was wondering if i could foiler feed the WiTarHar, the plant i just took and potted. Was wondering if the FF Grow Big could be used for this? I never used this techneque before, but thought it might help her get back into shape?

((Nirvana Special x Top44)x WW) x ((Thai Haze x Skunk#1) x Lr2) This was done in Holland.

This is the genetics of the plant i saved, so you can see why i want it in my breeding project. I need to do some reading as to taking pollen, because i believe there are enough flowers to get pollen for my porpose.

Maybe il get a few pics up as everything has grown a lot in the past few days, but will see if the camrea cooperates with me.

:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-12-2010, 09:31 PM

Ouch. That's truly scary. I'd have a heart attack if I walked into my grow room and saw that. Could be way worse though. At least you have others to hold ya over. Likely I'd be outside standing guard with a fly swatter and a can of bug spray.

Is this a problem every spring/summer?

If she's giving nanners and the nanners dump viable pollen, the seeds would be female. With the stress she's going through, I wouldn't be surprised. A re-veg comes back nanner-free if genetics were sound to begin with.

LetsSeeYa

06-12-2010, 10:42 PM

Ouch. That's truly scary. I'd have a heart attack if I walked into my grow room and saw that. Could be way worse though. At least you have others to hold ya over. Likely I'd be outside standing guard with a fly swatter and a can of bug spray.

lol, Yeah Rusty, so ya know why i was freaked you by it. And with its genetics it makes sense that i use it to breed from. And if this happen in your grow room id think you had a hole in your wall:(

Is this a problem every spring/summer?

Well outside your going to have some bugs, just like in your veg garden. But if you put them out with more growth on them, its never this bad. One issue iv never had is the damn snails. I pulled off at least 11 off my plants today, and they are worse then the leafhopper's. The plant i had in that same spot didn't have any bites at all on it, but it went male and was bigger and healthy. I have a couple before after pics to post as they get bigger and more healthy, they seem to pull out of the issue with the bugs. But this year its raining about everyday it seems, so i have snails just eating the hell out of them. I never thought a snail could do so much damage in a couple days. They are on my re vegged plants now, so i need to get a chemical to kill them or there will be no plants left:wtf:

If she's giving nanners and the nanners dump viable pollen, the seeds would be female. With the stress she's going through, I wouldn't be surprised. A re-veg comes back nanner-free if genetics were sound to begin with.

Rusty don't say that N word, i posted the genetics and need her and yeah ''her'' as i spotted a pistil. So breeding this plant with the male i have will give better genetics. I really want to stay away from the hermy gene as possible, even tho i believe iv got some in the male. But my buddy has one growing very well now, hes grown 20 years outside. But we differ on many techniques. Like he cuts all leaves off his buds while they grow. I told em that those leaves feed his buds, but he believes that the leaves take from his buds? But what can i say, his shit is great. Iv smoked it, but if he would take my advise, il bet his grow would be better. But he said this was something new, which he believes improves his potency.

Pics now, the 5 gal plant is up to my head now, but ya gotta figure in the bucket:D

:rasta:

Joefarmer

06-12-2010, 11:10 PM

G13budsmoker

06-12-2010, 11:13 PM

god damn i hate slugs :mad:

LetsSeeYa

06-12-2010, 11:46 PM

Well im going to try a different size pic on this one plant, which is the Edna of course. Its to my lap now and as big as an average table top:jointsmile:. OK so i really saw no issues with the re vegged plants, till today as snails are in full attack mode. Its been raining so much im thinking they are out to enjoy it and destroy me grow. I am getting some heavy chemicals to kill the damn things. The damage is incredible as i killed at least 11 or more by picking them off and putting salt on them, but il never keep up with this many. If it drys up they will not be bad at all and the leafhopper's will stop. The plants are healthy, so when they are kept this way its not bad as far as the bugs, but the snails are way different.

This pic i took in a larger setting to try an show its size and with 5 months to grow, i could have a freaking monster giant freak of a plant. And iv smoked it so i know its killer stuff, so yield should be very interesting:thumbsup: I also wanted to show bug issues as this year is bad, but the snails destroy the bugs will eat from the bottom of the leaves, but the plants recover from the damage. The damn snails will eat hole leaves, burp:wtf:. I hope this pic will post, cuz its taking a long ass time for a single plant and i want to post other pics i took of the NL an Cross. Geez man! I hope i don't wait all night and it doesnt post, il be pissed:mad: I guess if i had something better then dial-up i might not have this problem:jointsmile:

Worked:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-13-2010, 12:48 AM

Well it didn't work as i thought it would show up huge, or i would have posted them together. Im trying to show bug problem, but im guessing that anyone who wants to see it has to open the link. These turned out pretty good. I think if i don't do something first thing in the morning the snails will damage my plants bad, so im getting the S7 dust. I do need to look up if it will take care of snails, i know the leafhopper's will be taken care of with this stuff, but not sure till i look it up regarding the damn snails. Also, if it would just stop raining i wouldn't have these problems:mad: I would only need to use it till it drys up and stops raining. Ok so i just looked over to the TV, cuz im watchin cops:D and it says thunder storms, which it should say ''attack of the snails'', damn slimy ass things with a big ass stomach! Its incredible what they can do. Can ya tell im pissed, oh man:mad:

NL

NL SPREAD OUT FROM ME DIGGING FOR SNAILS

SKUNK X NL

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-13-2010, 02:54 PM

Sorry about the pic problem above. Well the 7 stuff doesnt work for slugs/snails, so i got a bunch of Steel Wool to put around the bottoms of their stems. I think this will help, but im sure that there are a bunch on them now as it rained hard again last night. Because of the way the branch growth came from buds, they are just starting to harden off each day so it makes it easy for snails to chew off a hole branch. Or just ruin new growth that in time will get big. Just because they are re vegged plants makes it worse then attacks on the other ''family'' plants. Deep in the middle of the NL plant is very damaged so its stopping the new growth im anticipating. So il try the Steel Wool and try and get some of the DE that seems to be the best deterrent:thumbsup:. Will see:hippy:

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oldhaole

06-13-2010, 04:05 PM

LetsSeeYa

06-13-2010, 09:24 PM

You haven't nuked those f##kers yet? Dude, I love ya but what's up with that? Pardon my bluntness. Wheel your ass down to the garden shop. Get the large economy size snail /slug killer. Put a ring around your girls. Then spread the rest around. Do it again two weeks later. End of problem.

Well man, got em check this morning:thumbsup:, im close to a nursery but its closed today, but i pretty much believe what i have done will stop them. Pics will show:hippy:. Iv got them locked up like a prison now. I was thinking about the sand paper, but if this doesnt work, i will have to hit the nursery:thumbsup:, oh and my chair is powered:D

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LetsSeeYa

06-13-2010, 10:59 PM

So i really don't think any snail could get through my barrier of Steel Wool. I just unrolled a few and put them around the bottom of each trunk. I really thought they would be covered as it rained like crazy last night and this is whats bringing them out. Last year i had like one snail:)but its rain so much this year its just making them come outta the ground and reign terror on my plants. I really think this will work and was surprised it didn't come up with my goggle. After the rain gets under control il be fine as keeping the plants healthy will detour the bugs away and a bit of soapy water works well for the leafhopper's. But comparing the steel wool to sand paper is a joke as if they just touch this stuff they will get injured. When i unrolled the stuff it was poking my hands as its a rough gauge type. I was able to wrap it around the the bottoms of the plants that were being attacked. This week the rain is going to not be as bad, in fact its not supposed to rain all week:thumbsup:

I just wrapped it tightly around them, using my home made weeding stick and punched it into the ground so they cant get under it. And even if they would, there is no way that they would reach the plants before they would get an injury or two, or nine:D I called wally world and the dude told me the 7dust wouldn't kill them anyway, but thats what i was going to get, if it worked for snails. They had nothing at all for snails, so that just tells ya how many people are having problems with them.

The last two pics were taken 1 hour an 45 minutes of each other, the first being what i saw when i was out to check them this morning. The second was taken after i got the steel wool around the plants. Amazing how they turn around. Had a bad storm last night and the 5 gal plant isn't rooted well enough so every time i get a wind storm it blows over. I am going to add a bit of soil to it and mound it up so it will root better. Just thought id show how fast they can recover.

Edna

NL

Cross

5 Gal at 12;00

5 Gal at 1;45
I hope you can see the steel wool as i think its going to work and it was cheep:D

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LetsSeeYa

06-13-2010, 11:08 PM

LSY, I had a hell of a time with slugs last year myself. They killed all of my seedlings but the larger ones pulled through. I've heard that Diatomaceous Earth is a great deterrent of many bugs, including snails/slugs. It's fully organic OMRI certified so no worry about chemicals. It kills them mechanically, not chemically. Available at some garden centers. I am trying it for the first time this year....$12 4.4lb bag

Well the nursery i go to was closed today or i would have bought the Diatomaceous, but i think this will work. But we shall see in the morning:jointsmile:

Thanks for stoping in bro:cool:

god damn i hate slugs :mad:

Im with ya on that man:hippy:, but im going to make em suffer now:mad:

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StickyBuds1987

06-14-2010, 03:03 AM

hey man i hope ya get those snails under control good luck :thumbsup::thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-14-2010, 04:32 PM

hey man i hope ya get those snails under control good luck :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks man:thumbsup:

I thought id put the genetics of the Edna up:thumbsup:

(Durban, Afghani, Skunk & an unknown Sativa) pollenated a BR1947= Blueberry x White Rhino and Peak19 x AK-47. The BR1947 was a cross of Blueberry male & White Rhino female which pollenated the Peak19xAK47 female.

I like it a lot and even more now everyday:D

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Highmantis

06-14-2010, 11:57 PM

Wow your plants look amazing! I really hope I can grow shit like that in the future

Joefarmer

06-15-2010, 12:18 AM

Steel wool. What a great idea. May have to try it myself. I also rigged up some 1/2" galvanized screen and doubled it up to make little mini barrier fences. I thought the roughness of the steel would deter them. We'll see.

Boy, that Edna's gonna be quite the tasty mutt!

LetsSeeYa

06-15-2010, 12:59 AM

Wow just waited a few hours to show a few pics, but the size was to big, im always hearing this,lol. So i got my camera to work in the full sun now to only have to big of file to fit them on here and i don't have a clue how to change from jpeg to gif i think is bigger to post. Anyway im trying to post this one 5 gal pic. This thing is getting so big.

I am snail free:thumbsup:

So 3 hours later im putting up pics from the 13th and last pic is 5 days from today. The 5 gal plant is huge now, i just wish i could post todays pic. I don't thing the plant will fit much longer so i could cut off the bottom like i had said earlier, but never thought i would have too. There is a nice branch on the bottom im going to try an clone, it will never yield as much as if i can veg it indoors and flower it soon.
So the Cross, ''family'' 1 and 2, then a pic that was taken 6 days ago to compare my last 5gal pic. I will try and put the one up i took today, whats another few hours,lol. Think il bake while i wait:stoned:

Ok, i give up:mad:Il dick with the camera later, to post.

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LetsSeeYa

06-15-2010, 01:20 AM

Wow your plants look amazing! I really hope I can grow shit like that in the future

Oh you will man, ya just need to read as much in here as you can. Plus, get a couple grows under your belt. Last year outside was my real first grow and i was taught a lot, but reading is a must. I was sorta sick and was in bed about a year and all i did was read in here, well i gotta indoor at the same time in. But it was the reading and people in this site that got me here. They look better today, but couldn't post the pics:mad:

Thanks for stopping in bro:cool:

Steel wool. What a great idea. May have to try it myself. I also rigged up some 1/2" galvanized screen and doubled it up to make little mini barrier fences. I thought the roughness of the steel would deter them. We'll see.

Boy, that Edna's gonna be quite the tasty mutt!

Yeah Joe, i had sent someone looking for sand paper, but they brought the steel wool up. Works great as i didn't have a one snail. If ya use it, get the fine stuff as its easy to stretch out and i think might be a bit more effective. I read that its great for mice or rats too. They say to plug up any cracks or places they might get in, cuz they will not chew it. Also read that a rats teeth could get 3' long if they didn't chew them down by gnawing on shit.

Yeah the Edna has had quite the life. I harvest her 3 times before putting her into the re veg. The buds just kept growing back, but this harvest with 5 months to grow:thumbsup:I was thinking today how im going to harvest her:wtf:. Oh and it took 2 rolls of the steel wool to get around her, but only one for the others:D

Thanks for comin in man, i like the company:hippy:

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StickyBuds1987

06-15-2010, 04:31 AM

Thanks man:thumbsup:

I thought id put the genetics of the Edna up:thumbsup:

(Durban, Afghani, Skunk & an unknown Sativa) pollenated a BR1947= Blueberry x White Rhino and Peak19 x AK-47. The BR1947 was a cross of Blueberry male & White Rhino female which pollenated the Peak19xAK47 female.

I like it a lot and even more now everyday:D

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well Edna sounds like a tasty but potent girl lol i got some pic up now i finally got the cord so now i can keep up with you guys haha

LetsSeeYa

06-15-2010, 10:55 PM

Ok so i figured out my camera, apparently the batteries needed charged to get the better quality pics, so here we go again. Well i took a few that wasn't been posted yet as they are small, but getting up there now. They all would be ''family'' pics as the 5 gal is also a ''family'' girl. The first 3 are unsexed as of yet, but i have good vibes with these 3 and believe there will be no ''nut sacks''.:thumbsup: The 1st is the one that was laying on its side about 4 days ago, but mounded it up as best i could and shes been fine ever since. The 2nd is really growing well as i cleared out a bit of brush to help her get more direct sun and gets it from around noon, till sun sets:jointsmile:. The first one starts getting it around 3;30-4;00 till around 8;00, but i put her in this place in hopes she will finish faster then the rest of them. Ok now the 3rd girl is in major recovery as it was in worse shape, but is pulling out well. I have done some weeding, but its been just way to hot for me to get it done like it should be. When it cools all will be cleaned up and the real growth will begin. Last year, after i cleaned them up, the growth was much better and the plants get more healthy and the bugs will leave them alone.

Then i put a couple of the Wit that i took out of the ground and have in a pot recovering. She looks much better and new growth is coming from the top and side branching has started. The first shows its growth and then i took one of the new top growth:jointsmile:

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LetsSeeYa

06-15-2010, 11:37 PM

jagerbombs101

06-15-2010, 11:47 PM

I got 7 here lil over a month old. Hopefully most of them are females. Any comments or suggestion, feel free to post.

StickyBuds1987

06-16-2010, 12:40 AM

And why stop now:D So i posted the Edna first and she seems to be bigger every time i go out. Then the NL, which is some of the best pain reliever iv ever had. The 3rd pic is the skunk x nl, which will put you under after 2 hits, but great at night before i crash. Ok then the 5 gal plant which im falling in luv with as she is getting great branch growth. Heck i took 9 pics of the 5 gal plant, just because i like looking at her. And last pic is ''Maxine'', which looks really nice and thinking about putting her under the light at 12/12, just to see what she has:thumbsup:

Well i believe that would be the '10 grow, i hope ya enjoy:jointsmile:

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ah man those ladies are beautiful well i hope to someday be growing plants that look this good

jagerbombs101 I got 7 here lil over a month old. Hopefully most of them are females. Any comments or suggestion, feel free to post.

well man im sure LSY does not like you trying to jack his thread but i will five you a bit of advice you have those plants way to close you need at least 3 feet between each plant i mean just look how bushy LSY's plants are but others wise looking good start a grow log man and we will come and check it out

Rusty Trichome

06-16-2010, 12:51 AM

Impressive, indeed. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

stra8outtaWeed

06-16-2010, 02:41 AM

had to stop by and say "great job friend"...i do admire your work and awesome attitude...keep it up! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-16-2010, 02:32 PM

Impressive, indeed. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot Rusty:thumbsup:it means a lot coming from the person that taught me how to do the re vegged plants. And just looking at the grow you had, i learned so much. Id have to say that re vegging a plant should be part of everyones grow. I think a re veg might not be as fast as i clone, but close and il bet the yield would be better, but never grew a clone. So something i need to work on if im going to get one or four from the NL:thumbsup:

Thanks again Rusty:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-16-2010, 02:48 PM

had to stop by and say "great job friend"...i do admire your work and awesome attitude...keep it up! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Hey thanks Stra8:thumbsup:but your grows look mighty fine bro:cool:. Iv seen a bunch of the LED grows, but you gotter dialed in very well:jointsmile:

Thanks for stoping in man and don't be a stranger:hippy:

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stra8outtaWeed

06-16-2010, 03:07 PM

i'm always cruisin through checkin things out :jointsmile:

its great to see how you push the limits and not let things slow you down...keep up the good work....you inspire us all bro :thumbsup:

dmcefc

06-16-2010, 04:01 PM

Thanks a lot Rusty:thumbsup:it means a lot coming from the person that taught me how to do the re vegged plants. And just looking at the grow you had, i learned so much. Id have to say that re vegging a plant should be part of everyones grow. I think a re veg might not be as fast as i clone, but close and il bet the yield would be better, but never grew a clone. So something i need to work on if im going to get one or four from the NL:thumbsup:

Thanks again Rusty:rasta:

Sorry for the dumb question but I've missed something ,do you flower and then take the bud off then re-veg your plants?

I re-vegged small plants deep in flower but left the buds on ,not by design but by accident and was surprised it worked and my two girls this year that I've forced were more bushy like your's.

Good Growin Mate.:thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-16-2010, 04:32 PM

Sorry for the dumb question but I've missed something ,do you flower and then take the bud off then re-veg your plants?

I re-vegged small plants deep in flower but left the buds on ,not by design but by accident and was surprised it worked and my two girls this year that I've forced were more bushy like your's.

I grew mine out inside, but left a few buds on the plant. Then flipped back to 18/6 to start them back into veg. I also cut back a bunch of branch growth that had nothing on them, you might go back a couple pages as i have pics there of them with the NL ready to go outside. It took about 36 days and could have flipped back to 12/12, but was getting them ready to go outside. I cover this in the 1st page i think, but there is a pic of what they looked like right before 18/6. There was 2 re pots in there, one right before 18/6 switch and then one right before harding them off to go out. Also i cut the roots off in first re pot, but kept the roots for 2nd re pot to build a better root ball for outside growing in the ground.

Sorry, i sorta mixed a few things up in here, out of order that is with this post, but didnt want to miss anything as the trimming and cutting the roots were important. The first re pot, i put them back in the same pots, just new soil at bottom and sides, but not 2nd re pot:D

Oh and the buds were small i left, but very smokable:thumbsup:

Any other questions just ask bro:cool:

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dmcefc

06-16-2010, 05:18 PM

I grew mine out inside, but left a few buds on the plant. Then flipped back to 18/6 to start them back into veg. I also cut back a bunch of branch growth that had nothing on them, you might go back a couple pages as i have pics there of them with the NL ready to go outside. It took about 36 days and could have flipped back to 12/12, but was getting them ready to go outside. I cover this in the 1st page i think, but there is a pic of what they looked like right before 18/6. There was 2 re pots in there, one right before 18/6 switch and then one right before harding them off to go out. Also i cut the roots off in first re pot, but kept the roots for 2nd re pot to build a better root ball for outside growing in the ground.

Sorry, i sorta mixed a few things up in here, out of order that is with this post, but didnt want to miss anything as the trimming and cutting the roots were important. The first re pot, i put them back in the same pots, just new soil at bottom and sides, but not 2nd re pot:D

Oh and the buds were small i left, but very smokable:thumbsup:

Any other questions just ask bro:cool:

:rasta:

Thanks ,I'll have a re-read of your thread ,I've seen you mention it before but didn't quite get it. You get a little technical for me sometimes ,where I'm more a throw it in the ground type of grower,lol. So if you hear me complaining about my harvest results ,come and give me a slap and tell me I should of paid attention.:thumbsup:

Rusty Trichome

06-16-2010, 05:37 PM

:icon506: (a preemptive strike)
Pay attention. :jointsmile:

dmcefc

06-16-2010, 06:31 PM

:icon506: (a preemptive strike)
Pay attention. :jointsmile:

You American's.:D

LetsSeeYa

06-16-2010, 11:40 PM

:icon506: (a preemptive strike)
Pay attention. :jointsmile:

LOL, Rusty, that was good, lol.:thumbsup:

You American's.:D

Yeah us American's with the real Football, lol. Watching the World Cup? We played a good game!

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dmcefc

06-16-2010, 11:53 PM

LOL, Rusty, that was good, lol.:thumbsup:

Yeah us American's with the real Football, lol. Watching the World Cup? We played a good game!

:rasta:

For diplomatic reasons we thought we'd go easy on you.:D

LetsSeeYa

06-17-2010, 02:37 PM

Nice cool day so il clean up my spots and give more ferts. Maybe il take a few pics as im going to anyway, but will show just how much better they grow without weeds stealing the plants ferts:cool:. Its wet but still a pain in the body to get all these weeds cleaned up, but nothing else to do so gotta getter done today, maybe :smokin:before i start to make things interesting:thumbsup:

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Rusty Trichome

06-17-2010, 02:48 PM

We are aflutter with anticipation...:jointsmile:

MDFinest

06-17-2010, 04:30 PM

man your grow is comng along wonderful.. I fast forwarded to the last page to see how they were presently looking and was extremely surprised!!! Im keeping up with this one...

LetsSeeYa

06-18-2010, 12:56 AM

Well i gave some ferts again today and with the ground still wet from all the rain, i cant remember the last time i only gave just water. But im just going to keep pushing ferts till they are as big an healthy as i can get them. The ferts is some cheep stuff but the plants seem to really like them and no negative signs of over fert as of yet. Its 15-20-15 and if i see anything that tells me the plants are not liking so much il just water a few days an back off on the amount of the ferts. But more rain coming so im just going to keep up the pace with the ferts.

So i did get a bit of weeding done, but not as much as i would have liked. But there were a few other things iv put off, so i finished those. The re vegged plants look very healthy and no slugs/snails at all. I do have a daddy long leg living in the Edna and one i spotted in the cross, which i greet with pleasure. Luv my spiders:thumbsup:. But ''family'' plant two has shown pistils today so there are two left that are out in the row im still unsure of yet:wtf:

The Wit plant is looking better since iv put her up where shes out of the tall grass, but soon will need to re pot her or put her back in the ground. If i do, i would put her near the re vegged plants as its pretty much cleared out well there. So the first pic is the Wit plant, then the Wit top to show how well its recovered. Then i took one of ''Maxine'', which i really need to re pot soon. Its just that the new growth is killer an if i don't do something soon, i will stress it out bad with it being in the container its in. But i do have a plan for its escape from that container. But its not shown its a female yet, but looks like a perfect plant, then ones you just know will go female, but then turns male:mad:so il wait at least till i know. I keep thinking about just putting it under my lights and still may. Then took a pic of my Bonsai iv really ignored since iv found something with a faster reward and now feel bad. But i re potted it today and it will pull through, i think its going to be a year or so before it really comes back to what i want it to look like. I got stupid one day and cut off major branches so its really not what a Bonsai should look like, even tho the leaves are just coming back. But il post it again at the end of this years outdoor grow, i think everyone will be surprised what the difference will be.

Not a real exciting post, but im glad the Wit plant is doing well:thumbsup:. I have some odd growth on it, sorta like a really big pistil or a white leaf thats not developed yet. I tried to get a pic, but not worth posting, but il try in the afternoon some time and it could change over night anyway

See Ya:)

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LetsSeeYa

06-18-2010, 01:09 AM

We are aflutter with anticipation...:jointsmile:

Thanks for stopping in Rusty:thumbsup:not a thriller post of any sorts, but the Wit is recovering:thumbsup:

man your grow is comng along wonderful.. I fast forwarded to the last page to see how they were presently looking and was extremely surprised!!! Im keeping up with this one...

Hey MD thanks for coming by:jointsmile:, if ya did the fast forward thing ya should know that iv grown the bigger ones through winter. I found Rusty's re veg bonsai project and ran with it:jumphappy:i gotta say im having a lot of fun with it too.

Thanks guys:hippy:

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G13budsmoker

06-18-2010, 07:53 PM

i think im in love with "edna", shes a huge bitch lol!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup: i can only hope that my lil G13 girls grow to be as fat as yours are. good work friend, ill def be droping in every once in a while to check on updates!:D

LetsSeeYa

06-19-2010, 01:17 AM

The re vegged plants wanted some attention, so here they are, not to much bigger, but bigger they are:thumbsup:. The ''family' plants are really getting up also so il post them this weekend to show just how much. I am seeing the difference in the plants too, there are 3 with huge leaves. The beans were a mix batch that was gifted, with great genetics in them. But after they get bigger its possible that they could be identified so will see.

The re vegged plants grow everyday tho, but the Edna branches need to be spread out and tied down. There is so much growth in the middle, it would be a shame to loose that yield, so thats next on the agenda:cool:

Skunk x NL would be next and look great. This is some of the most potent smoke iv had so iv kept this for night time. Its great for sleep and pain. I gotta say its the little one in the bunch, but this one and the NL didn't have the time to get a root ball like the Edna did, but i still have over 4 months to grow:wave1:

The NL I really like the smoke as its a great pain killer. The smell is like no other plant iv ever put out:thumbsup:. Just cant wait to have more of it. I have never grown a clone, but i really want some from this plant. I can only do 5 indoors with the CFL's, but il try and get a mother as i prefer to use this as my main pain killer. Doesnt make ya crash, but when your ready it helps.

Others will be up this weekend:thumbsup:i hope you enjoy the pics:)

I didn't crop any of these, just posted. I was trying to get all three in one shot, but it didn't happen, but im going to try again:yippee:

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deserthealer

06-19-2010, 03:07 AM

StickyBuds1987

06-19-2010, 04:52 AM

Man LSY those girls look beautiful cant wait to see what they look like a couple weeks from harvest lol keep up the good work man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

oldhaole

06-19-2010, 06:22 AM

Hey there LSY. Be carefull when you tie Edna down. Or any other re grow for that matter. They are well known for splitting at the stem. When they are in bud I will build a square frame of bamboo and tie my girl's branches up.

Those branches will wind up with a lot of weight on them. If you get a hard rain watch out. The extra weight will peel the bigger branches off and put them on the ground.

Just something to look for when edna gets big. :D

Dutch Pimp

06-19-2010, 06:41 AM

I can't handle that outside growing...it gives me the creeps..:wtf:

I like my plants next door...in the next room...:thumbsup:

but, on the other hand...those outdoor plants look nice...:D

blowsterke

06-19-2010, 06:43 AM

LetsSeeYa

06-19-2010, 01:58 PM

I can't handle that outside growing...it gives me the creeps..:wtf:

I like my plants next door...in the next room...:thumbsup:

but, on the other hand...those outdoor plants look nice...:D

Hey Dutch how goes it:thumbsup:its been awhile since iv seen ya post. I like being outside and like being in nature so once a year a good outdoor i think is good for the soul.:hippy:. The bigger one are re vegged from the winter indoor, if you didn't read the thread. After seeing what Rusty does, i thought id try it out. Things are going well so far.

Dont be a stranger man:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-19-2010, 02:09 PM

You are growing some monsterplants yourself, beautifull.
I wish I had one this year, but next year better for me.
Let them grow.
Nice weekend.

Blowsterke.

This week I will send you the PPb seeds.

A picture from the Purple Pineberrie and revag an amnesia.

Hey there has the sun come out yet there today? The plants look great. The Purple Pineberrie looks very nice and just cant wait:giggity:. Its going to be really hot here and i have weeding and ferts to give with the rain coming. The rain gets my ferts down into the ground really well, so if i know its going to rain i always hit them all with ferts. But i can really tell the difference with very fast growth and have over 4 months for them to get bigger.

See Ya later and hope you have a great weekend also:hippy:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-19-2010, 02:30 PM

Hey there LSY. Be carefull when you tie Edna down. Or any other re grow for that matter. They are well known for splitting at the stem. When they are in bud I will build a square frame of bamboo and tie my girl's branches up.

Yeah i think i read that in one of your posts, but there is a ton of growth just itching to grow down in the middle of the Edna and the NL. If any branches have issues it will be the Edna as it gets bigger each day, but the NL branches are not as hardy as of yet and want the most from it.

Those branches will wind up with a lot of weight on them. If you get a hard rain watch out. The extra weight will peel the bigger branches off and put them on the ground.

I thought about taping the branches at where the braking point might be or i think you also mentioned zip ties. But theres no buds yet so iv got time to figure it out, but a cage is a good idea. If i made one now i could make it so as i could add to it and use it now to open her up a bit, then the inner growth will perk up as there is so much in there. But i really want a good yield from the NL as its my favorite, just so great for pain.

I guess il add that to the ''to-do'' list. And will get one it soon. I could make it outta some good size tree branches to blend in a bit:jointsmile:

Thanks guy:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-19-2010, 02:44 PM

LetsSeeYa, your plants are looking so great! Feels good to have a nice fat bushy momma, doesn't it? :D

You've mentioned tying Edna's branches. I most respectfully submit: Every one of these ladies looks like she needs to have her branches tied down. It will increase your yield beyond your wildest imagination! I'm curious to learn how you decide to manage the logistics, if you will use stakes or weights, string or twine, etc. I'll hopefully be working on the same problem in a month or so.

Yeah its me first re veg project:thumbsup:. After i saw Rusty's thread i was hooked on the method right away. The Edna and NL are the ones that need tied, but the skunk x nl is growing like a bushy vine, so if anything it could use a trellis. I think im going to try the box it in-around then go from there. I sorta expect med. size buds and not large colas, but i guess will see.

Thanks for droping in bro:cool:

Man LSY those girls look beautiful cant wait to see what they look like a couple weeks from harvest lol keep up the good work man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

Me too bro and the sooner the better for sure. Il be over to check out your grow a bit later as rain is coming so i need to give a massive amount of ferts today:D

See Ya Bro:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-20-2010, 01:36 PM

...
This week I will send you the PPb seeds.
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oldhaole

06-20-2010, 03:01 PM

LetsSeeYa

06-20-2010, 03:31 PM

Not sure how the mods handle this, but it's likely best not to be so blatant.

I know Rusty. I did not ask, mention or anything that would apply to the rules of the site. I never have or would. If you look around i never ask for a thing:thumbsup:But understand you concern.

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LetsSeeYa

06-20-2010, 03:54 PM

I backed the bus up and posted the gulch plants again. Pics took yesterday, after you pointed out the error of my ways. Sorry for skipping around. I too, do not like watching half the movie, then the dish goes on the fritz. So I hear you. And fixed it.

Much Mahalo.

Well that was fast:thumbsup:i haven't been there yet, but plan to visit after posting my pics i took yesterday. I really like you water set-up too, that would be wonderful to just turn a knob. Its funny as i used your yard stick idea to show size, but then was a bit disappointed. I think i feel as tho i led people to believe they were much larger:(and now think they really arnt as big as i thought. Big, but not like huge like yours:thumbsup:. I guess bigger then im used to, but just think i put on that they were bigger i think. Hope i didn't miss lead anyone be my descriptions. But they do get bigger everyday:thumbsup:

So i have a good measuring tool here now to show just what size they are as the pics can be hard to judge.

1. Edna

2. Skunk x NL

3. NL

4. 5 gal plant

5. Growth on the Wit i rescued and looks so much better, a lot of new growth

:rasta:

oldhaole

06-20-2010, 07:11 PM

Edna is a monster. If she were mine I'd be :D. And we have yet to get to the longest day of he year yet. She has yet to do the jump. I would bet money that she will get to 10 ft and puka one lb. She has a long way yet to grow.

Your others will get into the 8 ft range. Your girls will keep you in quality smoke well into 2011. IF you can bring them to harvest, there will be enough to keep you until next years crop is done. And that is all you can ask for.

And remember, you did all your early work inside. That's a lot harder than digging a hole, shoving them in, and forgeting about them like I do.

Forgot to ask. Are your crosses mostly Indica? I think skunk is. NL I am not familiar with.

StickyBuds1987

06-20-2010, 10:01 PM

Hey LSY they look great man about what time do you harvest your plants every year seein as your only a few states away i would think our times would be close i mean i no there are other things to account for like the strain if its sativa or indica est est but im just looking for a guesstimate lol :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile: peace bro

LetsSeeYa

06-21-2010, 12:32 AM

Edna is a monster. If she were mine I'd be :D. And we have yet to get to the longest day of he year yet. She has yet to do the jump. I would bet money that she will get to 10 ft and puka one lb. She has a long way yet to grow.

Wow the biggest plant iv ever had was only about three an a half feet, that was grown in a flower tray. Iv never even seen one at 10'. Id have to some how tie it down if if got that tall too. And i smoke most often at night for the pain and to sleep, so might even last longer.

Your others will get into the 8 ft range. Your girls will keep you in quality smoke well into 2011. IF you can bring them to harvest, there will be enough to keep you until next years crop is done. And that is all you can ask for.

Oh thats for sure:thumbsup:

Forgot to ask. Are your crosses mostly Indica? I think skunk is. NL I am not familiar with.

Im really not sure as they were gifted, but 4 outta 5 went female and the guys that bread them really know how to make seeds i understand. They are Skunk#1 and NL#5. The Skunk is a cross of the two, but the NL is true blue. They were a mixed batch, but iv had both before so i can tell the difference after the first harvest. But the NL is my fav smoke ever. Its sweet and smooth that hits the body very well, sorta like the Edna. I posted the genetic of the Edna last page or so.

Thanks for your input, if ya read the page, it wasn't been the best of days on the boards today:mad:, but ya cant control everything. Thing is, i still try,lol.

Well im hopping over to check out your recent post and thanks for that btw:cool:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-21-2010, 01:09 AM

Hey LSY they look great man about what time do you harvest your plants every year seeing as your only a few states away i would think our times would be close i mean i no there are other things to account for like the strain if its sativa or indica est est but im just looking for a guesstimate lol :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile: peace bro

Well good question Sticky, because i was really trying to get it all right last year and felt like i needed advise at each step, sorta like a new momma:wtf:. But i learned a lot with that grow, then through the winter not being able to get any place, i read and read here. I guess what i am saying is as this being your first grow is not to sweat things to much. I know its hard as i did it, but when the time comes, your yield really doesnt matter. In fact i gave away about a third of my grow, because it was sorta like, ''look what ''i'' created''. But soon ran out:wtf:, lol. So in the end it was all about the ups and downs, plus the people i met here on this site which pulled me outta this funk i was in from a bunch of health issues, which are no longer here. And learned enough to do whats happening now. So, basically you will learn from this and next year, sky is the limit bro:cool:. Oh and no matter the strain, you can flower any strain when it matures or before, but best matured. 12/12 will begin flower just about any time:thumbsup:

To answer your question its odd as the summer seems to be pushing the winter back and so stretching the summer out. So i guess not sure. But last year as soon as i got good buds on one plant i took it, lol. Then waited a few weeks and took 2 more. I think i started taking them in Sep. and after they were dry i smoked some and gave away a bunch. I believe i was able to hold out till around the end of Sep. or Oct. to harvest my best one with the biggest yield. The funny thing would have to be that the stuff would couch lock ya for sure, but didn't flush them. So it tasted horrible, i mean really bad. Like ferts with milk and just munchin a bowl.

You will do fine man and just keep in mind that its your first grow so watch your plants to see how they grow. To me thats most important, cuz when there is an issue, you will say to yourself ''that doesnt look right'' and will be able to fix your problem, or have an idea to get there.

Hope this helps man as i know you will be happy with your yield:thumbsup:

Thanks for stopping bro:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-21-2010, 01:14 AM

Oh i forgot, ''Maxine'' got a new dress today. Il put it up sometime tomorrow:thumbsup:

:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

06-21-2010, 01:34 AM

Well good question Sticky, because i was really trying to get it all right last year and felt like i needed advise at each step, sorta like a new momma:wtf:. But i learned a lot with that grow, then through the winter not being able to get any place, i read and read here. I guess what i am saying is as this being your first grow is not to sweat things to much. I know its hard as i did it, but when the time comes, your yield really doesnt matter. In fact i gave away about a third of my grow, because it was sorta like, ''look what ''i'' created''. But soon ran out:wtf:, lol. So in the end it was all about the ups and downs, plus the people i met here on this site which pulled me outta this funk i was in from a bunch of health issues, which are no longer here. And learned enough to do whats happening now. So, basically you will learn from this and next year, sky is the limit bro:cool:. Oh and no matter the strain, you can flower any strain when it matures or before, but best matured. 12/12 will begin flower just about any time:thumbsup:

To answer your question its odd as the summer seems to be pushing the winter back and so stretching the summer out. So i guess not sure. But last year as soon as i got good buds on one plant i took it, lol. Then waited a few weeks and took 2 more. I think i started taking them in Sep. and after they were dry i smoked some and gave away a bunch. I believe i was able to hold out till around the end of Sep. or Oct. to harvest my best one with the biggest yield. The funny thing would have to be that the stuff would couch lock ya for sure, but didn't flush them. So it tasted horrible, i mean really bad. Like ferts with milk and just munchin a bowl.

You will do fine man and just keep in mind that its your first grow so watch your plants to see how they grow. To me thats most important, cuz when there is an issue, you will say to yourself ''that doesnt look right'' and will be able to fix your problem, or have an idea to get there.

Hope this helps man as i know you will be happy with your yield:thumbsup:

Thanks for stopping bro:rasta:

Thanx man yeah i look at it that way im not to worried about how much ill get and if its gonna be some super fire buds or not. I mean i would like to get a lot and really good buds but im not expecting all that from my first grow. I just wanna get the growing a good healthy plant part down first then worry about maxing my yield and getting the most potent buds i can later. I know you get what ya put into a grow so im reading and taking it step by step and learning all i can so that next years grow will be better.

Yeah i was thinking that they will be ready sometime in September lol i cant wait to see how my plants look when they are almost ready lol. Take care man keep up the good work and thanx for the advice. Oh and i have a couple ?'s on my log maybe when ya get some time you can check it out and give me some more advice thanx again.

LetsSeeYa

06-22-2010, 01:57 AM

Well i said i would post ''Maxine'' so this is 23 hours after and shes perking up very well:thumbsup:. It was an interesting re pot as potted in a really bad container. I am used to just letting them dry out and slide em right out of the old and into new an improved bigger pot. But as it was chucked in a odd shape container i turned it upside down and shot water up into the roots to loosen and pulled it right out. A bit of stress, but doing ok, but not as well as i normally re pot as there should not be stress after i re pot.

Also im posting the Wit plant because it needs a re pot too. But needed to dry her out first and will show re pot. I want to show how better the Wit looks after a correct re pot. Iv found new growers are timid or think it will hurt their plant. Not true, done correctly.

Wit looks great from about 4th node up as it needed rescued from snails an leafhopper's. I watered it the other day and saw roots:wtf:, leaves had a bit of drip, but they are very heavy and over all healthy. But needs re pot and thought id show a before an after:) so tune in for re pot episode:jointsmile:
Oh and check out how in the ''Maxine'' shot, the Wit growing so fast as its bread to do towers over from behind. And only 3 weeks from rescue and over coming all the stress it endured with the bugs. With all the leaves just hanging on grew the plant into a healthy one. This plant is growing more different then any plant iv grown before. Better after re pot:thumbsup:

:rasta:

deserthealer

06-22-2010, 04:13 AM

They look happy... will grow like crazy for you now. :dance:

LetsSeeYa

06-23-2010, 02:33 PM

Some leaf twisting of new growth and droopy. Could be bound, but first time in 5 gal so really don't think it could be filled up already. Last pick was taken 10min, before the others. Top growth just looks odd. Had i few yellow mid lower leaves, i took only for security purpose.

The soil in the pot was sitting out all year, so im thinking its been washed of its minerals. So def. issues P, Mg, Mb but just from looking at chart i collected. If so any remedy around the house. I have Epsom salt, never used it.

The 5 gal has rock mixed into the bottom as last year for better drainage. Pulled the male last year out of it, but put this plant in and was afraid id have issues. Just over did it this year, too many. Sloppy with a couple plants, but would like to save her, shes 3' now. If i need to put her in the ground im not sure i could do it.

Rained day before last pic, maybe its just using up the water and why it perked up after and is in some major wind. Trying to figure out a few twisted leaves, maybe 3 i found. And found single leaf finger here their. Not flowering?

Sorry major rush on this post. Thank you :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Peace:rasta:

Rusty Trichome

06-23-2010, 06:15 PM

Use care with keeping those black pots in direct sunlight. If weather is temperate no big deal. If hot, it'll cook the roots.

Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-23-2010, 10:57 PM

Here are a couple i took today, you can see the twisted growth. Damn thing looks as tho its trying to flower maybe:wtf:. It gets 9 hours direct sun? I would have to go back to check the age of the plant, but im not sure that matters much anyway. But im sure its been in the 5 gal close to 2 months. Maybe its just the plant, but like i said the soil sat through winter so all minerals could have been washed out of the soil. I will read about Epsom and try an find the molasses, don't ask.

Thanks man:thumbsup:

:rasta:

irydyum

06-23-2010, 11:41 PM

Any chance the twisted one is getting it's dark period interrupted by an artificial light source somewhere?

LetsSeeYa

06-23-2010, 11:49 PM

Any chance the twisted one is getting it's dark period interrupted by an artificial light source somewhere?

No way, i learned that the first Hermy's i grew out and smoked, then learned they were Hermy's. Sorta just learning then and with reading didn't get that far. But not even possible, in less someone hit it with a flash light and if thats so i got way more problems then this one plant. But i understand your question.

Thanks man:rasta:

irydyum

06-23-2010, 11:52 PM

I just don't know personally of any nutrient issues that cause whorled leaves. Normally that is related to photoperiod. They do look like they may be a bit hungry, but nothing in particular appears deficient. Could use a shot of all purpose I would bet.

oldhaole

06-24-2010, 04:55 AM

Hey there LSY

Don't worry about the leaves. File that under the small shit happens category. In your first pic that leaf ball looks like a tent catipillar. Do me a favor and pull it open and see. Could be the pic though. Just kinda looks like one. If I am wrong it was the pic :thumbsup:

As for an occasional whorled leaf don't worry. It can be caused by many things. A bugbite on a very young leaf can cause it. It can also be a genetic glitch (though those tend to repeat themselves).

Either way, Relax. No threat to your plants.

Think BIG

LetsSeeYa

06-24-2010, 03:28 PM

:clap:
I just don't know personally of any nutrient issues that cause whorled leaves. Normally that is related to photoperiod. They do look like they may be a bit hungry, but nothing in particular appears deficient. Could use a shot of all purpose I would bet.

Thanks man:thumbsup:with my mix of layered small rock in the soil, maybe its just not holding them long enough. I fed them a gallon the day before pic was taken, il shoot it more often as its been raining a lot also, which could wash em through.

Thanks for looking man:clap:

Hey there LSY
Don't worry about the leaves. File that under the small shit happens category. In your first pic that leaf ball looks like a tent catipillar. Do me a favor and pull it open and see. Could be the pic though. Just kinda looks like one. If I am wrong it was the pic :thumbsup:
As for an occasional whorled leaf don't worry. It can be caused by many things. A bugbite on a very young leaf can cause it. It can also be a genetic glitch (though those tend to repeat themselves).

Either way, Relax. No threat to your plants.

Think BIG

Thanks man i was afraid the soil being out all year had been washed out, but took the chance i could add what it needed. Also could have been the heat as its was in the upper 80's for a month it seems. Plus the wind gets it pretty hard at times. And with all the rain iv had bug issues. That leaf you were talking about is empty as i can see in it, but could have been bitten by something and threw it into some funky growth. Just wanted to rule out something i had to act now or would have major issues. But seems like just nature, but thanks for coming in with your experience. If i can i may put it in the ground as it would do much better, if i can get help.

Thanks again:rasta:

oldhaole

06-24-2010, 03:52 PM

The plant in the bucket could use a transplant. I'm not sure how you will pull it off though. Wish I was there. I would happily jump on a shovel for her.

No catipillars is good. Over here we have a type of cat that burrows into the bud and eats the stem. A lot of them can make an all you can eat buffet of your girls in a week. So stay on top of 'em.

Hang in there and keep doing what you are doing. Everything looks great!

LetsSeeYa

06-26-2010, 12:59 AM

Just a pic show of the girls, Got ''Family'' plants 1, 2, and 3. And Maxine in her new dress:D

I will post the re veg next post. I gave nutes to ''family'' plants today and now they are at about 3'. Iv really been pushing the ferts as its been raining a lot here. They must have grown a foot just in the past 4-5 days and Maxine is looking like she's ready for a party with her leaves all out catching the nice Sun Shine:thumbsup:

:rasta:

irydyum

06-26-2010, 01:47 AM

Lookin' good bro:thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-26-2010, 01:59 AM

And the re vegged plants with the 5gal. Iv been trying to keep the re vegged plants in order and if you have been fallowing the thread i think you should be able to pick em out anyway as the look so much different.

Edna, Skunk x NL, NL and the 5 gal plant with plans of digging a whole for her as she will give close to double yield. All the really good growth is at top and looks like she wants to go big:) But it seems the Edna is most commented about, but as you see the NL has caught up with her and after i spread them out the inner growth is going to explode. The Cross is growing like a bush and is really dark green. If anything the cross is getting bigger around, but still pulling up the 3rd spot. I started molasses with the re vegged plants and the bucket today. The bad storm we got the other day just knocked down a few tress which give 4 plants 2-3 hours of more direct sun light.:thumbsup:. And no snails, but some bugs, nothing thats hurting much:mad:

Thanks for stopping my friends:rasta:

sarah louise

06-26-2010, 04:52 AM

Well i guess you can choose the best of the clones to flower this way:hippy:

That I do, had a bit of a slip up though... a episode of Tietze syndrome (http://arthritis-symptom.com/s-z/tietze-syndrome.htm) had me laid out flat for a few weeks, so most plants went out to hothouse to shiver through winter without much attention... they wont develop buds as such but they'll coat with resin, which I can then turn into hashish in the spring.

Well i like to change up what im smoking, or i get to used to it and it doesnt help me as much as it once did. I have wanted a green house since iv built me house, but i gotta get the cash figured out before thats going to happen. But, wow id sure be growing the veggies if i were you. I like growing just about anything. Plus it tastes so good:thumbsup:

Thanks for stooping in Sarah:rasta:

Yeah I need a variety to maintain effect... like many, too much of any strain and it just bounces off. In my younger and more agile days I used to run a commercial market garden and wholesale nursery... these days I only grow the things that I enjoy consuming.

You know a greenhouse doesn't have to be that expensive... check ebay under greenhouses. Polycarbonate walls and aluminium framing... looking to put up my next 12'x8' for around $520 usd... delivered to the site.

Just remember that growing your own fruit and veg will ruin your tastebuds for commercial produce... just like growing your own bud.

All the best for the rest...

sara: jointsmile:

LetsSeeYa

06-27-2010, 02:51 PM

Thanks for stopping in and sorry to hear about the health issues Sarah, iv had my own so i get ya for sure, but that was last year. Better year im hoping.

Well i sorta made a ''how to'' thread, but the ex booted me before i could post it:wtf::mad:. But wanted to show a couple pics here of the re potted Wit plant. They both were re potted and look good.:thumbsup:. So i have a before pic, the root ball, then 2;45 hours after re pot.

Oh for got Maxine, she looks great and thinking about putting it in 12/12 as im out.:wtf:, i need to get a pic i guess, maybe il post her tonight as she looks incredible

But iv just been trying to keep up on the weeds and have stopped giving ferts to the re vegged plants so i dont get that taste like last year. So molasses and water till flowers start, then i have solubles for this to get my buds bigger. Just need them to be healthy so the bugs will leave them alone. May hit them if N is needed, but the others will get some, to get them to about 5' then they should be fine.

Its very hot so weeding needs to get done now, because later it will be to hot for me to be out there, but iv kept up on them for the most part. Just really need to do a bit each day to keep the bugs off and allow the plant and not the weeds to get watered:)

See Ya:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

06-29-2010, 03:18 AM

Well i wasn't comfortable the way the 5 gal plant was looking. It was so big it was hard for me to really figure out what the issue was. Well, its just big is all and was done with her container. She was very root bound and i had previously put rock at the bottom where the roots grow into. But made it an easy re pot. I had a friend put er on her side and told him to push and roll er back an forth. I was a bit worried, because a bad rain storm hit 45min before we started. Iv never stressed a plant on re pot, but thats the only thing i can say that about. Bonsai teaches you about roots. So anyway:wtf:it took a few rolls and him thinking he is really messing up the plant, she slide right out. The rocks i had put in the bottom helped i think, but not sure. Much easier then i thought. Then spread the rocks around for the snails to stay away as anything rough will keep them away.

Any way i put her in sideways:Di think its going to get really big and it will grow just as well if not better. One side was missing a few branches at the bottom so put that side down. I will start pulling the branches up from around the plant and maybe tie a few from the growth behind. Its in a great spot too as its with the re vegged plants.

Here is a pic with a couple of the re veg too. The NL is as big, but not wide as the Edna and the cross is working hard to catch up:cool:

Sideways

Skunk cross and in the distance the NL,im sitting by Edna when i took it. Im trying to get all 4 in one shot, il get it.

Skunk cross an Edna

See Ya:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

06-29-2010, 04:03 AM

looking good man keep it up :thumbsup::thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

06-30-2010, 11:49 PM

I tied the Edna and the NL. I only did one branch each, but plan to tie another on each plant soon. I think its going to help both a bit, but have 4 months to grow so i really didn't have to, but why not add an oz. I also pulled up a few branches on the sideways plant. And always did a bit weeding. Its never ending, and with the weather not as hot, i need to get done what i can.

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

07-01-2010, 12:50 AM

So i femmed 1st ''family'' plant, because its getting too big, without enough branch growth for my taste. Il never put one in that hole again as i had the same issue last year.

The ''family'' plant 2 looks great too as iv been hitting them hard with the 15-20-15 ferts. But this is only to get them up and outta the weeds as thats where the bugs are hanging out.

So this was the tough ''family'' plant to get up so far. She was another replacement plant as the one that occupied that hole went male, but its back a few pages and looks really bad. Now shes at least 2' and green and healthy. Oh an its ''family'' 3 plant, my bad

I have been pulling branches up from the sideways plant and moving the fans around. This way the sun will pull all the branches up, which they are already moving that way, just in the 2 days its been in the ground, but shes much happier now. Gave her a dose of Grow Big today as well.

I was wondering if i should put some chicken wire over her? Il look for my number one Scrog guy to see what he thinks, but would luv some input, even if ya wanna bash my skills:thumbsup:.

Oh and might add that if ya want to see ''Maxine'', iv moved her to the indoor section and the Wit plant too.

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

07-04-2010, 03:14 PM

Iv got some major growth in the past few days so i thought id put up the ''family'' plants first. The Sun has been out and its stop raining so i think they are sucking up the Sun.

1. 1st ''family'' plant. I fimmed this plant a couple days ago, because the branch growth just wasn't there.
2. 2nd ''family'' plant. This one is bushy as heck man with lots of bud sites all over it.
3. 3rd ''family'' plant. If you see pics above, this plant was attacked really bad by bugs, but after iv been able to get her up, shes not been getting bitten as much.
4. 4th im calling ''sideways'' plant. You can see the branches start to perk up toward the sun and im not sure if i should put a screen over her or not:). But every plant seems like their healthy and looking good so far.

I will post a couple of the re veg after this post:thumbsup:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

07-04-2010, 03:38 PM

Here is a few other pics i took, just trying to get them all in one shot. I keep trying, but just cant get them in one shot. But the first two are the re vegged plants. I think the Edna got to much water with all that rain we got, but over all growing everyday. Also the NL is a bit taller then the Edna now as the Edna wants to bush out, but the NL is growing up with a smaller bush like growth.

The Skunk x NL is cool looking. Its a shrub now and just growing out like it started, no surprises with this one. But all the re veg plants have so many bud sits on them its crazy. The x alone gets more every couple days:cool:.

Oh and the Wit and Maxine is living some place else now. Just looked good and needed some buds now. So i flipped them a couple days ago, well it was the 28th and not bad looking so far. There was some stretch, but thats ok as iv got a big ass light in the lower parts of the plants and will have another on the other side soon. They put out 500 watts, but still cfl and 65k. But i used a mix spectrum last indoor and was very pleased with my harvest. Plus im going to pollinate the Wit for beans.

See Ya

Hempsouth

07-04-2010, 08:48 PM

You might have to put some supports out later this summer.

Good Job:thumbsup:

LetsSeeYa

07-04-2010, 11:42 PM

You might have to put some supports out later this summer.

Good Job:thumbsup:

Hey Hemp my bro glad you could stop in man. People have been saying that, but its just hard to believe i would have such a plant that would need the support. Its really amazing how fast they are growing. The cross i think will stay short an bushy, but the Edna an NL will need something for sure at some point. I have a couple ideas, but not sure just where il need the support. The NL is getting as tall as my head, thats sitting tho, but still over or close to 4' now. The Edna is getting bigger around, more so then tall, but at least 3 1/2' now.

The ''family'' plants are mixed and could be WW or Wrecked Homicide. Not really sure but was told after they get up a bit then may be identified. But everything is good man, just really hot. I guess you might be used to this kinda heat, but i cant stand it.

Hope to see ya stop in again man:hippy:cuz without you id never be here man, thanks bro:jointsmile:

:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

07-08-2010, 04:35 PM

Well its been a bit so il have new pics early tonight or later today. So stop by and check em out:thumbsup:

:rasta:

StickyBuds1987

07-08-2010, 07:07 PM

they are looking lovely man ill be by to check out the new pics when ya post them i just did a pic update to go check them out let me know what ya think

LetsSeeYa

07-08-2010, 11:43 PM

Well here is the update i had said id post, they are doing well so far:thumbsup: I try an keep them in the same order, but the Skunk x NL is sorta in between the Edna and the NL.

Also i have never seen a plant as dark green as the sideways plant, but to day i saw it really starting to grow up to the sun, big time. Il tie it back down better an hope for many colas.

The NL is now over my head, but remember thats sitting. But i gotta say this chair is the tallest iv ever used:jointsmile:. I really gotta try and make a mother from this, its the best iv ever had before.

SeeYa:rasta:

LetsSeeYa

07-09-2010, 12:10 AM

Ok here is the ''family'' plants, which have gotten huge. I pumped the ferts hard when it was raining about every other day, but now the rain has stopped im only giving about a dose or two a week. If they look like they are wanting nutes il give them and im using Grow Big now as they are big enough to not need as much nitrogen. I like the ferts to get them up an healthy, this keeps the bugs off and is working so far:jointsmile:.

If you have a chance open pic 2 as i believe its going to be a good yielder. I couldn't ask for better branch growth and bud sites are stating to pop out, with pistils every place. As you can see the plant one isnt getting any direct sun yet and plant two is 5' away. I have fimed it and plan to pull it into the light with the femed part of the plant getting more sun in the end. I am just waiting for it to get a bit bigger. Then il ben er over and tie her down, lol sounds dirty, lmao:D

Last pic look better today as a friend put some 7 dust on for bugs and in two days, i have mid size leaves with out the dust on them. And the top has grown at least 4' from the time i took these pics, which was yesterday, i really couldn't believe it. I will post one tomorrow for anyone to see the difference.

And these get nutes a couple times a week, Grow Big:hippy:

:rasta: