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flyinhi
05-08-2010, 05:43 PM
Like many, we have decided to grow our own, and hope you guys can keep us on track. Both my partner and I have medical problems and find it hard affording to buy from others, as well as knowing what we're buying is safe....too many horror stories about how people increase the weights!
Anyways, we bought some seeds and have slowly but surely got most of the required equipment together to see us through the first grow. We're doing White Widow (can't wait!) as it suits us both :) and possibly greedily, we germinated 21 seeds (was aware several might not take, but only 2 didn't do anything, which was a huge shock!)....oh, and they're fem seeds, thoguh we will still double check at the right time!
Weve done the germinating process and planted the little darlings and are now on day 11, using 24/0 fluorescent lights and misting for feeding with plain water. But I think we worried a bit too much about potential burning to the leaves and had the light slightly too high, as our babies are quite tall and skinny, but otherwise looking very healthy. We've now lowered the light height (after reading up on other's growing procedures and seeing pics of how close their lights are), so hoping the babies don't stretch as much now for the light, but start to bulk up a bit. Also using the eco-pot things placed inside little pots, but wondering if we should re-pot to the next size pots or wait?
I'm hoping the photos upload! And have to say they aren't the best quality as I took them with my phone camera earlier today, but you'll get an idea of size and health I think. Any advice on other steps to take at this point is highly welcomed!!
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00396.jpg
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00394.jpg
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00395.jpg
Gee I hope the photos upload, or the link at least! lol
LetsSeeYa
05-08-2010, 09:58 PM
Like many, we have decided to grow our own, and hope you guys can keep us on track. Both my partner and I have medical problems and find it hard affording to buy from others, as well as knowing what we're buying is safe....too many horror stories about how people increase the weights!
Anyways, we bought some seeds and have slowly but surely got most of the required equipment together to see us through the first grow. We're doing White Widow (can't wait!) as it suits us both :) and possibly greedily, we germinated 21 seeds (was aware several might not take, but only 2 didn't do anything, which was a huge shock!)....oh, and they're fem seeds, thoguh we will still double check at the right time!
Weve done the germinating process and planted the little darlings and are now on day 11, using 24/0 fluorescent lights and misting for feeding with plain water. But I think we worried a bit too much about potential burning to the leaves and had the light slightly too high, as our babies are quite tall and skinny, but otherwise looking very healthy. We've now lowered the light height (after reading up on other's growing procedures and seeing pics of how close their lights are), so hoping the babies don't stretch as much now for the light, but start to bulk up a bit. Also using the eco-pot things placed inside little pots, but wondering if we should re-pot to the next size pots or wait?
I'm hoping the photos upload! And have to say they aren't the best quality as I took them with my phone camera earlier today, but you'll get an idea of size and health I think. Any advice on other steps to take at this point is highly welcomed!!
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00396.jpg
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00394.jpg
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac221/flyinhi2010/DSC00395.jpg
Gee I hope the photos upload, or the link at least! lol
Well they look great. They haven't stretched really to bad at all, mine were worse. When ya put your pics on, use the attachment below this message, they will fit the page. In less its my computer:wtf:
I have a few questions. Where are ya going to grow them, outside? If not what kinda lights are you going to use, because 19 plants will take a bit of light to finish. Plus if i were you i might keep those peat cups wet. When ya see roots popping out, put them in small pots. You want to work them up in size, as they will fill the pot, then start growing above the soil. So, putting them in too big of pots will just slow the above plant growth, if its gotta fill a big pot with roots that is. Plus your right about them getting burned when you mist the leaves under the lights.
They look perfect really IMO:hippy: Just going to take a lotta light and id get those peat pots wet. Any help, just ask, il do what i can, till its out of my experience.
Great start:rasta:
flyinhi
05-09-2010, 10:42 AM
Hi and thanks for the reply :)
We're using a T5 2 strip blue spectrum light at the moment, but gonna have to get another one! We didn't expect so many to take tbh. It's an indoor grow, currently in an office type cabinet, but have a grow tent setup to pop the girls in very soon. Have to admit it's very exciting watching them grow each day! And they're now giving off a very light smell......gets the mouth watering :D
yeah, I just looked at the girls before I logged in and they're deffo needing a bit more watering now, so thinking of not misting them so much but pouring the water in slowly. Thinking of re-potting around Wednesday to slightly larger pots, when we will put them in the tent to allow more room and ventilation etc.
I was reading through Raiz's log of his beauties, and wanted to know.....using the screen method - will this be the best idea to make sure the girls keep growing and not sagging when they start to go into flowering stage? I know everyone does their grow differently depending on what works for them, so it can get a bit confusing sometimes about what really is best. Don't want to screw up along the line....can't afford to screw up both money wise or health wise (we both have CNS problems) Also wondering when is the best time to introduce some nutes.....after we repot or just before?
Thanks for the tip too about photos, after uploading them I realised I can add them to album on here.....shoulda chcked that out first, but now I know, I'll add them there instead every few days :)
Cheers, Fly :smokin:
flyinhi
05-09-2010, 10:17 PM
Well, we watered the girls straight after being on here this morning :) and had a look at them 5 minutes ago.....does everyone check up on their babies as much as this? :S2: I tell ya, they are smelling soooo sweet already when we open those doors!
Just need to ask another dumb n00b question.....when we move the girls to the tent, we will have a growing area of 2m x 1m, and wondered if one 600w HPS light will be enough, or should we go for two? Just thinking about costs etc, but don't want to skimp out either for the sake of being too careful with the running costs.
Just took some pics of 2 of the girls, but until I'm a registered+ user I can't get them on my grow log thread :( but if ya'll wanna have a look in my album, help yourselves!!
I never thought growing could be as interesting and exciting (and nerve-wracking) as this! Nerve-wracking in the sense that being newbies we could do something stupid and screw up, exciting in watching the babies growing and waiting for the final result, and interesting in finding out and learning so much more from all you 'veterans' out there! So glad to have joined this club :)
canniwhatsis
05-09-2010, 11:42 PM
Well, we watered the girls straight after being on here this morning :) and had a look at them 5 minutes ago.....does everyone check up on their babies as much as this? :S2: I tell ya, they are smelling soooo sweet already when we open those doors!
Just need to ask another dumb n00b question.....when we move the girls to the tent, we will have a growing area of 2m x 1m, and wondered if one 600w HPS light will be enough, or should we go for two? Just thinking about costs etc, but don't want to skimp out either for the sake of being too careful with the running costs.
Just took some pics of 2 of the girls, but until I'm a registered+ user I can't get them on my grow log thread :( but if ya'll wanna have a look in my album, help yourselves!!
I never thought growing could be as interesting and exciting (and nerve-wracking) as this! Nerve-wracking in the sense that being newbies we could do something stupid and screw up, exciting in watching the babies growing and waiting for the final result, and interesting in finding out and learning so much more from all you 'veterans' out there! So glad to have joined this club :)
I check up on my girl constantly too! :hippy: I'm screwing evreything up with my first grow in some peoples opinion, but the plant doesn't seem to mind :D
So far your looking good:thumbsup:
flyinhi
05-10-2010, 05:28 PM
Hey Cann, Just had a look at your little girl, awww bless her she looks so lonely! Lol. But she certainly liked the change in light! You got any new pics of her yet?
We're gonna transfer our girls to bigger pots on Wednesday, so will get some new photos done then. Just wondering about the peat pots we got them in just now....would it be best to put them directly into the bigger pots as they are or remove the peat pots? The idea was to try not to disturb them too much when re-potting hence using biodegradable pots, but now not so sure if that was the best way to go! I'm sure I saw some other guys using peat pots too, so any tips on best methods?
CovertCarpenter
05-10-2010, 06:17 PM
...looking verry good so far, mon!
I think you should be able to keep 'em in the little potlets they're in when you transplant 'em. If you wanted to, f'r instance, put 'em into some kinda hydro/aero setup, what they're in is nearly perfect right now... Or, if going 'dirt', they should just grow through the potlets (if you felt like it, you could gently poke a few holes in 'em for the roots to find).
If you wanna keep 'em all, or most of 'em, and in the tightest of spaces, I would suggest going cheapie DWC. Think large Rubberm4id tub, with a 7x3 matrix of mesh pots, either 2" or 3", and about four separate large airstones in there being driven by two cheapie El!te 802 pumps (two heads ea). Change nutes either every 3 or 7 days (or never!), depending on whom ya talk to. If one pump fails, the other provides cheap backup. Keep Ph at 5.5 to 5.7 to max 6.0, ambient 'day' temp at/'round 78f (29c), and you should be good to go.
Then start with whatever flourescents / CFLs your budget allows, mostly in the 6400/6500 and/or 4100k spectrae, running on 18/6 light timings ASAP (to help avoid hermaphrodism). Add /one/ good 600w HPS [being driven by a Lum4t3k ballast as soon as you get to flowering] off a decent reflector to your fl/cfl mix, whilst changing all bulbs out to 2700k 'warm white' colour temperature... should have killa buds for first garden :) Change bulb to Metal Halide when vegging next 'garden'...
Given that you are lighting a rectangular space, you might get more 'mileage' off two 400w HPS when the time comes, but you could also invest in a cheapie small light mover, or rig one of your own. You /should/ be able to 'get away' with flourescents for the first stage of the grow, though, depending on your finances, you may be able to buy a ballast and large bulb(s) right away.
I chose to do so, and at the end of the day, my 'lighting bill' ran to 585 with tax in. This for a 600w L'tek ballast, a 600w MH (50,000 lumens!) bulb, a 600w HPS (90,000 lumens!!), reflector, cable 'kit', and a few basic extras, including base nutrients. The 600w fills my roughly 3'x3' space quite nicely, but I did have to invest in a total of six fans to properly move the air in and out of the space.
You can put off the Large Bulb, tho, if you have to, until you get 'round to flowering... or just mass the flourescents in there if you have heat constraints...
(can't /wait/ to see how your ladies turn out!) :D
LetsSeeYa
05-11-2010, 12:35 AM
Well, we watered the girls straight after being on here this morning :) and had a look at them 5 minutes ago.....does everyone check up on their babies as much as this? :S2: I tell ya, they are smelling soooo sweet already when we open those doors!
Oh yeah, most people luv to sit an watch their plants grow. They are beautiful plants and watching them develop helps you to understand and see the growth of the plant. Any grower will say their just like your kids:hippy:
Just need to ask another dumb n00b question.....when we move the girls to the tent, we will have a growing area of 2m x 1m, and wondered if one 600w HPS light will be enough, or should we go for two? Just thinking about costs etc, but don't want to skimp out either for the sake of being too careful with the running costs.
I use cfl's and have never grown under HID lighting and iv never grown in a tent. I would read in the lighting section to understand the best for your buck, also i might post in the lighting section your number of plants, size of tent and the strain your growing. They can help ya better there. But, make sure they have experience with the lights they suggest, because some people in here, not many, but some just like to post stuff they dont know about, or have never used. You want a person thats used the light and gets good resolutes with it.
I never thought growing could be as interesting and exciting (and nerve-wracking) as this! Nerve-wracking in the sense that being newbies we could do something stupid and screw up, exciting in watching the babies growing and waiting for the final result, and interesting in finding out and learning so much more from all you 'veterans' out there! So glad to have joined this club :)
You wont mess anything up to the point of them not producing for you as long as you read as much as you can and ask questions like you have been. Also do not let anyone talk you into growing in anything but dirt:thumbsup:. Other methods are great, but as your just starting, you make a mistake with hydro and they could be dead fast, but soil will forgive you and the problem is usually a quick fix. Im not knocking people that grow in different mediums, but its way more complicated IMO. Some day id like to try a hydro, but not till i have growing dialed in for what i expect. This is done by growing and its a fun hobby.
As far as the peat cups, you might put them in small pots now. The roots will shoot through the cups and you want them to grow into soil, cuz the light will stop their growth. Roots dont like light. Also, plants grow out their roots, then above ground growth really begins. So when the roots hit the inside of their pots you will see lots of growth, but they will out grow pots fast. I re pot 3 times at least to build a good root ball before they go outside. And if ya just let them dry out for 3 days before re potting, they slide right out and really like fresh soil to grow into. Just pot the peat cups, they will help the root structure get started. I would put them in 6'' pots or so.
The only problem i see is you have 19 WW plants. I think your going to need more space, cuz i really dont think they will fit. maybe you could flower half the plants at a time while just keeping the others in veg, but then they would be huge when ya do. Next time ya start seeds, i might not start them all at once. But its done, so now just need to figure out how to make sure they all get flowered. I know of a great grow log in here that was grown by a guy that knows what he's doing and its WW. I will find it and post it here, so you can see what these baby's can do. Also, he uses a tent, i think with 2 400hps lights.
Oh and i really like the cool tube lights, these get hot and the cool tubes will help keep your temps lower, which everyone deals with growing indoors. Might be a bit pricie, but you will end up putting the cost into venting anyway, so i guess it makes sense to me to nip it in the beginning. Oh yeah, it would be good to get a fan blowing air around in there too, an oscillating one would be perfect.
Peace il See Ya:rasta:
LetsSeeYa
05-11-2010, 01:09 AM
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/174232-irydyums-white-widow-project-2.html
Click this link, its the WW grow. Its not long and has a bunch of pics that will show how the WW look grown:jointsmile:
:rasta:
Coachgee
05-11-2010, 04:15 AM
Looking good flyinhi.:thumbsup:
letseeya is the man too listen too he helped me out alot and he knows his shit. I started with a some seeds and I can say it was a joy seeing them sprout and grow day by day. This is my first grow as well and I'm currently using 10cfl's and a t5 flodescent. You definatly have too get more lite to get the best results.
Canniwhatsis your doing as best as you can with your grow by the way your girl do look lonely. Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:
good luck with your grow and I promise to check in on you....:hippy:
raizla
05-11-2010, 07:03 AM
We're using a T5 2 strip blue spectrum light at the moment, but gonna have to get another one!...
I was reading through Raiz's log of his beauties, and wanted to know.....using the screen method - will this be the best idea to make sure the girls keep growing and not sagging when they start to go into flowering stage? I know everyone does their grow differently depending on what works for them, so it can get a bit confusing sometimes about what really is best. Don't want to screw up along the line....can't afford to screw up both money wise or health wise (we both have CNS problems) Also wondering when is the best time to introduce some nutes.....after we repot or just before?
Yeah, the blue T5's worked great for me in veg. 19 plants is a bit ambitious. I think you might feel overwhelmed as the plants get bigger. I have enough trouble keeping up with the 3 I've got, but I'm pretty meticulous about picking up dropped leaves and such.
The SCROG method was great for me. I didn't realize how big the colas were going to get. Even though I have super thick stems, the plants still wobble a little bit when the fan blows on them. Luckily the SCROG gives everything an added support structure. If you really plan to SCROG 19 plants you're going to have to make a huge screen!
If your soil has nutes in it, you won't have to add anything until flowering. If you move up in pot size like I did (small cup to 1 gallon to 3 gallon), the plants need new nutrients at the same time that you repot, which is perfect because the additional soil of a larger pot provides those nutrients.
There isn't really a wrong way to do your grow (unless your plants are sick or dying), so just figure out what works best for you. I looked around at all of the different threads and liked the SCROG idea best at the time, but I might try something different on my next grow.
One last piece of advice, make sure you pH the water. I got lazy about it, and it caused one of my plants to get some brown spots on the leaves, which probably affected my final yield. You don't have to get anything fancy. I used the little drops that make the water change color, and they work fine.
canniwhatsis
05-11-2010, 07:31 AM
Yeah, the blue T5's worked great for me in veg. 19 plants is a bit ambitious. I think you might feel overwhelmed as the plants get bigger. I have enough trouble keeping up with the 3 I've got, but I'm pretty meticulous about picking up dropped leaves and such.
The SCROG method was great for me. I didn't realize how big the colas were going to get. Even though I have super thick stems, the plants still wobble a little bit when the fan blows on them. Luckily the SCROG gives everything an added support structure. If you really plan to SCROG 19 plants you're going to have to make a huge screen!
If your soil has nutes in it, you won't have to add anything until flowering. If you move up in pot size like I did (small cup to 1 gallon to 3 gallon), the plants need new nutrients at the same time that you repot, which is perfect because the additional soil of a larger pot provides those nutrients.
There isn't really a wrong way to do your grow (unless your plants are sick or dying), so just figure out what works best for you. I looked around at all of the different threads and liked the SCROG idea best at the time, but I might try something different on my next grow.
One last piece of advice, make sure you pH the water. I got lazy about it, and it caused one of my plants to get some brown spots on the leaves, which probably affected my final yield. You don't have to get anything fancy. I used the little drops that make the water change color, and they work fine.
I absolutely love Raiz's log on his 3 WW and the ScrOG he's using with them! (Track it regularly! :D )
flyinhi
05-11-2010, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the input Raiz :) Much appreciated. We really didn't expect so many seeds to take....been reading up long before buying the seeds, so expected at least a few to not crack open. But hey, waste not - want not and all that!! We had a couple of friends that are in on the grow with us and who have helped fund the initial setup, so they're not all for us.
Your 3 girls are looking amazing, hoping our girls will look just as good :) Being a first grow we're learning as we go along, and will know (hopefully) better for the next one. We're gonna have to transplant today instead of tomorrow as one of the girls is looking like she's showing some signs of possible rootbound, but all the others are looking great.
we're going for a soil grow all the way through and are using Miracle Grow soil as the local store had a good deal on them, so we stocked up a bit prior to getting the seeds. Got a new fan coming today to help with bringing some fresh air into the tent, so gonna out the girls in there as soon as it comes.
We have been checking the Ph on every watering and think we got it about right. We bought one of those big LED ph testing lightsticks and have some ph up and down solution, so should work out fine in there. Just wondering if any of you guys use a nutrient tester too? One of our mates uses one, but haven't seen anything on here about anyone swearing by them, so is there any need to get one?
Still unsure about SCROG method, as you rightly point out it will have to be a seriously huge screen! The grow tent we got says it can hold up to 40 plants, so we're gonna do 10 on one side and 9 on the other so the girls have room and aren't too over-crowded, just have to keep an eye on them and make sure they don't get too crazy in there! Might have to use a bit of imagination as they get bigger if we don't go with the SCROG way - seeing your colas and how big they have got and hoping ours will be similar means we might have to think of a suitable method to support them.
Anyway, better go check on the babies :) Keep up the good work guys, love seeing how your girls are doing, and picking up new tips as us n00bs go along! You're gonna get some wicked smoking too :D :rastasmoke:
flyinhi
05-11-2010, 08:17 AM
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/174232-irydyums-white-widow-project-2.html
Click this link, its the WW grow. Its not long and has a bunch of pics that will show how the WW look grown:jointsmile:
:rasta:
Cheers man, you have been really helpful with your advice! 19 seeds....I guess we live and learn right? Haha. I got the seeds from The Attitude seedbank after doing a bit of research, saw they were rated highly, and can say they were excellent serivce and excellent seeds! So would deffo use them next time, but as you say, perhaps not crack all the seeds in one go!
One of my brothers used to grow in soil a few years back, and he had no real issues with soil method. Hydro is something I'll leave until I'm a lot more confident, if I ever try it lol.
Thanks again for the link, will go check it out now :smokin:
flyinhi
05-11-2010, 12:32 PM
Sill ain't checked out that link :( but it's next one the list :thumbsup:
Well, the girls are now in their new pots and looking like babies all over again! As there's so many of them, I'm gonna call them 'The Waltons' :D I so liked the idea of Raiz calling his girls names, but we got too many to call them individually lol, so a family name will do for them all :)
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Hope the links work! Just 2 pics for now, got a stackload of things to do, plus I really need to dig out my decent camera for decent pics! Spent a bomb on a camera a couple of years ago, thinking it would be great for close up shots, but haven't really done anything with it yet. Guess that's another manual to get reading lol.
One of the girls is looking slightly depressed, and another had slightly yellow leaves, but both had loads of roots starting to poke through the peat pots, so hoping the new homes will make them happier. Several have a few more leaves today than they did yesterday, very encouraging and helping us think we're doing things right haha. And the 'aroma' is also very encouraging :D
Better go clean up the mess I've left behind while doing the new pots but will go have a look at some other posts and that link first ;) and maybe a coffee to re-energize this tired soul....if only life was as easy as those bloody farms on facebook - now that's what I call easy growing!! haha
Catch ya later guys :smokin:
LetsSeeYa
05-11-2010, 04:35 PM
Sill ain't checked out that link :( but it's next one the list :thumbsup:
Well, the girls are now in their new pots and looking like babies all over again! As there's so many of them, I'm gonna call them 'The Waltons' :D I so liked the idea of Raiz calling his girls names, but we got too many to call them individually lol, so a family name will do for them all :)
lol, The Walton's, thats funny as heck man. Your re potting looks great man, soon the leaves will grow over the pots. Just watch them an when ya see them start to get a bit droopy, it could be a sign that they need a bigger pot to live in:hippy:
Hope the links work! Just 2 pics for now, got a stackload of things to do, plus I really need to dig out my decent camera for decent pics! Spent a bomb on a camera a couple of years ago, thinking it would be great for close up shots, but haven't really done anything with it yet. Guess that's another manual to get reading lol.
Look for the macro setting, it gets great close ups:thumbsup:
One of the girls is looking slightly depressed, and another had slightly yellow leaves, but both had loads of roots starting to poke through the peat pots, so hoping the new homes will make them happier. Several have a few more leaves today than they did yesterday, very encouraging and helping us think we're doing things right haha. And the 'aroma' is also very encouraging :D
You are doing everything right so far, thats why your plants look so good:jointsmile:
Better go clean up the mess I've left behind while doing the new pots but will go have a look at some other posts and that link first ;) and maybe a coffee to re-energize this tired soul....if only life was as easy as those bloody farms on facebook - now that's what I call easy growing!! haha
Let me know what ya think about those WW's. The colas were huge and its a grow thats close to yours, thats why i thought it would help. And facebook grows will not hold a candle to your grows after ya get a few under your belt.
Keep er green man :weedpoke::rasta:
irydyum
05-11-2010, 05:59 PM
Pulls up in the back of the room and fires up a blunt.....
I just skimmed this thread, but everything looks like it's running on time to me:thumbsup: You obviously did some reading before embarking on this journey so kudos to you for that. I'm sure you will be paid of handsomely in the end.
*subscribed* +rep for you!
flyinhi
05-11-2010, 06:07 PM
Thanks again....all tips ans helps are sooo appreciated!
Checked out that link......wooooooohoooooo! If ours look as good as those....well, heaven awaits!!
I'll have a look for the macro setting on the camera, and dust off the manual lol. Then I'll get some better shots of 'The Waltons' :thumbsup:
Bit pissed coz the new fan ain't arrived and was supposed to come today :( so finger's crossed it comes tomorrow. Humidity isn't too high yet, but weather has been a bit unpredictable, so keeping a close eye on that.
Farming on facebook......passes the time but gets ever so boring lol. Having much more fun growing 'The Waltons' :) And will have better fun when 'The Waltons' are all grown up and ready to :rastasmoke: :thumbsup:
flyinhi
05-11-2010, 06:14 PM
Pulls up in the back of the room and fires up a blunt.....
I just skimmed this thread, but everything looks like it's running on time to me:thumbsup: You obviously did some reading before embarking on this journey so kudos to you for that. I'm sure you will be paid of handsomely in the end.
*subscribed* +rep for you!
Thanks Irydyum! Your WW looked AWESOME!!! Yep, certainly did a load of reading, and still reading and learning each and every day!!
Thanks for the rep too :).....another thing I gotta figure out how to do, you guys are owed some top rep in return! As my mother always says....you learn something new every day....if only she knew hahaha! Feeling very positive about the grow, seeing as we really overdid the seeds lol, and everything seems to be going according to plan with the 'supervision' of you 'veterans' :thumbsup: yep, alls good in the land of going green :stoned:
LetsSeeYa
05-11-2010, 08:01 PM
Thanks Irydyum! Your WW looked AWESOME!!! Yep, certainly did a load of reading, and still reading and learning each and every day!!
Thanks for the rep too :).....another thing I gotta figure out how to do, you guys are owed some top rep in return! As my mother always says....you learn something new every day....if only she knew hahaha! Feeling very positive about the grow, seeing as we really overdid the seeds lol, and everything seems to be going according to plan with the 'supervision' of you 'veterans' :thumbsup: yep, alls good in the land of going green :stoned:
Well isn't that some shit man, lol. I wanted you to check out Irydyms WW grow because its awesome and same strain. And he pops in:clap:, he helped me a ton in the beginning of my first grow i count, lol. Now that he has popped in ya might ask him about your light issues. He is someone thats used HID lighting and can give you great advise on a light that will meet your needs and probably give ya a few tips with your tent. I thought he used a 600hps for the WW grow, i think, but now i think he runs 2 400hps that are air cooled. Id luv one of those puppies, air cooled just seems to be a smart buy, but never used one, just makes sense to me. Iv seen to many duct work and fans which the cool tubes should take care of them selves.
You need to get so much rep before you can give it. Plus i think how many post you put up might have something to do with it, not sure. Use the search up above and im sure you can find out what ya need. I thought i gave ya rep, il see.
See Ya:rasta:
irydyum
05-12-2010, 12:40 AM
Ive always been a 400 type of guy LSY. Never owned a 6, would have liked to, but never have.
As far as tent growing is concerned with HID lights, ventilation and ventilation are your 2 most important variables to control. Exhaust all the way OUT of the room the tent is in if possible. Does no good to dump it into the same room and recycle the hot air back into the tent.
If you can go air cooled, do it. Much easier to control temps.
I have run open wing reflectors in tents and I would get temp spikes up to and into the 90's. It's doable, but you have to stay on top of things 24/7.
I'll answer anything I can, always glad to help someone willing to help themselves.
flyinhi
05-12-2010, 08:57 AM
Thanks for that Irydyum :) Soon as we get some money saved up we'd like to get the air cooled lights. In the meantime, we'll go with the ventilation tip..never occurred about dumping the out-going air in same room....duhhhh! But top tip and well appreciated :)
Today we're panicking. Maybe not so much panicking but near to it.....have we done something wrong, how can we remedy our little girl's apparent unhappiness? Look at her:
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She was looking a bit depressed before transplanting, and now she's having a tantrum! her leaves look kinda dried up but they don't feel dried up. Hoping it's a reaction to moving pots and that she'll settle down in a day or so. The girl that was showing signs of going yellow is now going green again, so moving home did her a world of good. Just a bit worried about Lil Droopy Drawers there....really dont want any others to go the same way! The temps were quite low the last couple of nights which might also have upset her, though dunno why the rest of the family haven't reacted the same way. Nothing has been done differently with any of them....they are all treated the same. "HashHospital" advice would be appreciated here....will Lil Droopy Drawers pick up or are er days numbered? Gee I wish I had paid more attention when my brother was growing years ago! But then maybe not...his was a laid back to being horizontal approach to growing lol. Anywho, just raised the temps for the girls and gonna check every hour or so that temps and humidity are good. Other than that, I wait and hope she'll pick up a bit and quit her tantrum. :i feel stupid:
Coachgee
05-12-2010, 02:44 PM
Thanks for that Irydyum :) Soon as we get some money saved up we'd like to get the air cooled lights. In the meantime, we'll go with the ventilation tip..never occurred about dumping the out-going air in same room....duhhhh! But top tip and well appreciated :)
Today we're panicking. Maybe not so much panicking but near to it.....have we done something wrong, how can we remedy our little girl's apparent unhappiness? Look at her:
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She was looking a bit depressed before transplanting, and now she's having a tantrum! her leaves look kinda dried up but they don't feel dried up. Hoping it's a reaction to moving pots and that she'll settle down in a day or so. The girl that was showing signs of going yellow is now going green again, so moving home did her a world of good. Just a bit worried about Lil Droopy Drawers there....really dont want any others to go the same way! The temps were quite low the last couple of nights which might also have upset her, though dunno why the rest of the family haven't reacted the same way. Nothing has been done differently with any of them....they are all treated the same. "HashHospital" advice would be appreciated here....will Lil Droopy Drawers pick up or are er days numbered? Gee I wish I had paid more attention when my brother was growing years ago! But then maybe not...his was a laid back to being horizontal approach to growing lol. Anywho, just raised the temps for the girls and gonna check every hour or so that temps and humidity are good. Other than that, I wait and hope she'll pick up a bit and quit her tantrum. :i feel stupid:
Hey Flyinhi I had two ladies do the same thing after repotting. Dont worry there will be new growth coming in and the leafs wont look like that just watch your temps.... If im wrong someone please correct me. The little ladies look great though keep up the good work Flyinhi.:thumbsup:
LetsSeeYa
05-12-2010, 04:43 PM
That seedling is fine, in fact its a lot better then some of mine before i re potted them. Id say it might have gotten a bit of heat, which will curl the leaves like that. Also, iv seen too many nutes do that, but your not giving them yet. I think if ya get a fan to blow air around them, your good:hippy:
Thanks irydyum, im not giving advise to equipment iv never used or have the knowledge of, but like to pay the help i got from you and so many others forward:thumbsup:, thanks for poppin in man:jointsmile:. Oh and maybe i want a 600hps so bad i thought you grew out the WW's with, but it just makes that grow even better.
:rasta:
flyinhi
05-12-2010, 05:12 PM
Once again, I offer my thanks! Lil Miss Droopy Drawers does have some good leaves and fresh ones coming through, so I guess I'm getting a bit over-protective lol. They've got a little fan blowing on them too, been doing that for a few days now. I did want to get a bit of a breeze blowing before that but was so nervous coz they were so little and so fragile looking. But they do like the fan :) and we can see some of the stems starting to thicken up :) Guess we gotta get tough with our love, just like we did when the kids were little haha. Next grow we won't be so over-cautious and panicky. Will dig out the 'real' camera and get some better pics up over the weekend.....that gives me a few days of trying out some macro shots of the kids or the dogs (if any of them stay still) or whatever grabs my attention and fine-tuning my poor photography skills - by the end of this log, I shall be (hopefully) a more confident grower AND photographer :cool:
Keep on keeping on :rastasmoke:
CovertCarpenter
05-12-2010, 07:19 PM
...it's actually what I'm doing mesef, but I also have some plants in passive hydro, and one in DWC just to see if they could catch up with the ladies in 2.5 - 3ga of dirt, and now just going into flower as of last week...
Am planning my next grow on / round a rubbermaid tub/mesh pot thingy that shouldn't cost too much to build, and will let me do 1-15 plants, with an easy way to get to all plants.
If you did chose dirt, you could do individuSCRoG with 'em, by placing a mesh support over each container of dirt, thereby giving you the best of both worlds as far as trainability / transportability...
Just my :twocents:
CovertCarpenter
05-12-2010, 11:16 PM
...seriously, keep up the good work!
I found the first few transplants were the hardest, I fussed a lot over getting it 'just right',... but now, when one of 'em needs to move on up, I git a move on, because the last thing I want is a lil' girl who gets rootbound :/
Now, it's kinda fun when someone needs transplanting... almost like a little birthday party... "My, my my! Aren't you a /biiig/ girl, now?" :D
And if you don't feel like doing SCRoG, or would find it cumbersome with so many plants, remember that you can always use LST (Light Stress Training) on each of 'em to their individual pots, with nothing more than some string and a way to make it stay...
flyinhi
05-14-2010, 10:21 AM
Day 15 from seeds going in soil.........and yesterday was a bit of a disaster :(
One of our T5 lighting has packed in, so we've had to put the girls in the growtent for now, sharing one T5 light, which really isn't enough. To add the the problems, the humidity levels rocket through the night, and we're struggling to maintain them at an acceptable level. 2 pots look like they're showing slight signs of mold as a result, which is obviously baaad news. The girls really need to go back in the cabinet but until we can get a new light, we're banging our heads against the brick wall. Payday is not until next week :( and are currently trying to find someone who can loan us either a light or enough to get one ASAP, but without them clicking what it's for.....aaaarrrggghhh!!!
How can we reduce humidity but keep the temps up until the lighting issue is resolved? Our imaginations have expired....and we fear our girls may follow suit if we can't rectify the situation immediately :(
I managed to find the macro settings on my camera and have taken a couple of pics yesterday (so girls were 2 weeks old from going in soil). They look pretty much the same today, though not sure how long they will look good for if we ca't figure out a temporary remedy until we get a new light. Hoping someone has had similar issues in the past and can offer some advice :)
Here's the pics:
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On pic 862 you can see where the tip of the leaves had turned color before being re-potted, but she seems to be okay since going into her new home.
raizla
05-15-2010, 06:57 AM
How can we reduce humidity but keep the temps up until the lighting issue is resolved? Our imaginations have expired....and we fear our girls may follow suit if we can't rectify the situation immediately.
Lol! I love the way you've stated your problem.
It's always difficult to troubleshoot someone's problem without knowing their full situation... however...
How cold does it get outside the tent at night?
My girls get down into the mid to upper 60's and it didn't seem to hurt them a bit.
What are the humidity levels outside the tent?
Can you open the tent up at night and let the humidity out?
flyinhi
05-15-2010, 08:54 AM
Lol, glad to be able to give you a chuckle Raiz :thumbsup: Aiming to stayupbeat and positive throughout any mishaps.....no point in getting overly wound up during what is an essential learning curve (although we do get a bit antsy lol).
Outside temp temps are low 50s at night, so inside tent is not that warm either. Haven't checked outside humidity levels, just have a meter inside thatw e keep a close eye on.
We've managed to get a temporary, albeit fiarly crap, lighting solution - brother in law has been growing for a while, and has upgraded his equipment, so has given us his first light fitting.....basically a regular striplight, which he used to veg until his girls were big enough to take the HID lights, and which took ages for growth, but will have to do until payday.
So, the girls are going back in the cupboard now that we have 2 light sources again. Most likely swap them around the lights every few days so they all get a fair share of the T5 light. The temps and humidity were spot-on in there. We've done a test run of the HIDs in the tent for a few hours when we were checking everything was working and it's all good there too, so we know these issues will not be too worrysome when the girls go under the big lights. They're growing nicely and showing new growth every day, and will soon be big enough to get the HIDs :)
Although we have had these 'little headaches' I'm kinda glad they're happening during the first grow....for one we can plead the newbie plea lol, but also if this had gone perfectly with no concerns and something happened on a later grow, we'd probably freak a bit worse! And we also will be more aware of what to look out for in future grows (and make sure we have replacement parts handy!)
No pics today....nothing exciting to show yet, and don't wanna bore you with baby pics lol. :jointsmile:
guitarman42
05-15-2010, 09:42 AM
Growin pot is pretty ez its a matter of fine tunin to get yer buds big, frosty and tasty, My only advice to you, and this is the most important advice you will get is 1. Dont pull your plant early wait TILL YA got amber trichs. 2. Do not yank early. 3. Dont go googleing "early harvest" and try and convince yourself its ok to yank a week or 2 early. 4. Stop thinking about pullin yer friggin plant I told ya like 3 friggin times already. 5, DONT PULL YER FRIGGIN PLANT EARLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
CovertCarpenter
05-15-2010, 10:44 PM
... with pix of those lovely little girls! I assure you, they're /not/ boring :D
Sux if you don't have enough lighting, but yeah, moving 'em around a bit so they all 'get their share' of the 'good' one is a good idea. Imho, making 'em dance is a very early form of LST, and therefore a Good Thing (tm).
If you're gonna go with the more linear (rectangular footprint) tent, then tube-style flouros make sense. If with the more 'square' footprint one, I'd reccommend CFLs, but in either case, add as big an HPS as you can to pound de buds. 600w would not be too big (with a good airflow), and 400 would fit well.
Have a buddy who used a 1000w MH with 8x4' Sunblaster flouros in vertical array around his tent (2' x 4' x 6' tall), from start-to-finish, and his stuph was killa. Verra killa. Please know that he had the MH in a LARGE cooltube.
raizla
05-17-2010, 06:03 AM
Glad you were able to resolve your issues. Yeah, all the little mistakes we make in the first grow make the 2nd grow that much easier. We also usually have a lot more equipment (lights, nutes, etc) at our disposal to help us along.
flyinhi
05-21-2010, 10:22 PM
Well, it's now 23 days since our seeds went into soil and after our little problems, the girls appear to be very happy.....making the parents very happy! :jointsmile:
The girls are now about 5" tall and have been returned to the tent now we have some extra lights. Due to restricted finances, it's only a few more CFLs, so we've got the T5s in the middle with the CFLs around about, and move the pots each day so they all get their fair share of good lighting. Certainly have to invest in more T5s for future grows though....but being a first grow, we gotta do the baby steps and learn from each one!
Also finally seem to have the temps and humidity stable....tried different things and then the weather changed to heatwave, so gone from struggling to keep our kiddies warm enough, to worrying it's too hot! A/C isn't really an option - rented house, and way too much hassle to get a system installed (though if we ever win the lottery (haha) then it's an option we would seriously look into!). But with input and extraction fans and little blow fans, things seem to be on an even keel.....temps are now a steady 80*F and humidity at 50-55%. Girls are being watered every 3 days or so, though haven't started nutes yet. Most likely will introduce some weak solution next week....seeing as we're using MG we know to be extra careful with adding nutes, so treating them like proper babies and will progress with the 'solids' a little at a time.
have several pics added to album, so feel free to have a snoop about! Below are a couple of one of the girls.....not sure why she has odd upper leaves....seems to be sprouting normally below though. 2 of the girls have upper leaves like this.....all the others look exactly like the rest in the pics in the album. Have a look and (hopefully) assure me this can be normal lol. The girls that weren't happy previously are growing very nicely and smelling very sweet :hippy:
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So, next stage will be nutes and then onto the HID lighting.......getting a little impatient for them to reach the suggested 10" though lol. We've been discussing light cycles.....some folks say to start on 18/6 while others swear by 12/12......what do you guys favor and why?
Off to catch up on some logs and Q+As now......peaceful smoking! :stoned:
irydyum
05-21-2010, 10:45 PM
Plants in the 2 pics linked there look fine to me. Nice green color, green stems, perky leaves. All positive signs. As far as the abnormality of leaf shape goes, that could be a product of stress from the issues you have had. Now that things are stable as far as environment, keep and eye on em. New leaves should look normal as the next node pops out. I have had some crazy leaves in my day, thankfully none really ever seem to be a problem. If you were breeding or something, you would get rid of them, but just for smoke, you should be fine.
Here's a couple pics of some of my strange happenings lately, just so you know it indeed happens to all of us.
flyinhi
05-21-2010, 11:01 PM
Thanks Irydyum.....I did consider it could be stress related, then I thought perhaps genetics....both the plants have 'normal' looking growth underneath the oddball upper leaves, so wasn't getting too upset about it. But its good to hear/see other's plants have similar traits! I did have a look around the forum and came across a pic with some odd leaves, just can't remember where it was! :stoned: No, not a chance of us breeding.....maybe in a few years/decades and a load of grows and experience under our belts lol. Quite happy to grow and smoke for now :rastasmoke:
:smokin:
dooobster
05-21-2010, 11:32 PM
Hey man, cool. I grew a WW a couple years ago, check it out
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I started it in 12/12 right from seed... Ended up with a 2ft lady that gave me about 42 grams of nice herb. She was awesome! Very easy to grow. She liked light nutes and the green flushed right out when I stopped giving nutes and switched to plain water before the chop.
Get a couple more cheapo fluoro strips if you can, 4ft 2-lamp T8 fixtures are an inexpensive way to increase lumens until you've got enough money saved for your HID light. Also, if you can, keep a fan blowing on them all the time. This will help make the stems stronger for later on when they need to hold up big heavy buds :D
Keep up the good work.
flyinhi
06-05-2010, 11:01 PM
well......whats happening these days?
Been a bit awol, so do apologise for lack of updates and photos.....health has had a relapse and haven't been able to do much until last couple days.
anyway, got the girls in the tent with their big lights now. They were moved to larger pots last week, but are laready showing signs of wanting to go in bigger pots again.....damn they can grow fast!!
The 2 with the 'odd' leaves that we were a bit concerned about are thriving well.....in fact, it appears that they have at some point divided into 2 plants from one stem! Not sure if that's possible, but thats what they're looking like. We're calling them our 2 sets of twins :smokin:
Here are a few randoms shots of a few of the plants. The lighting in the tent has made the pics look a bit yellow, but will take some re-potting pics during the week, and you'll see the girls in all their nakedness :woohoo:
It's 38 days since the seeds went into the soil. The girls are being fed nutes (Canna A+B) and some ionic superthrive. PH levels are stable. humidity is stable, thought the temps have continued to cause a few headaches. We now have some air cooler units which will hopefully stablize temps (room temp is also a problem, even with the window open it's still hot in the room, so air coolers should also reduce room temps to an acceptable level). Plants have some fans blowing constantly also. there's a couple of leaves that have slightly yellow tips, but as they are old leaves, we understand it's old news....all other leaves and new growth are spot on and healthy :thumbsup:
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flyinhi
06-08-2010, 08:49 AM
A few more photos of the girls. :) I think pic 4 shows one of the plants that had 'funny' leaves.....the odd leaves are attached to the middle stem, while the plant itself appears to have divided and become almost 2 plants. There are 2 of the girls like this, which leads me to think perhaps this is a result of genetics, as the rest of the girls are 'normal' single plants. Whatever the reasoning behind this, we're calling these 2 plants our twins lol. We also believe we are seeing the female parts developing, which I've tried to capture in a pic or two as well.....I took quite a few pics, the rest I'll stick in the album rather than take up space here. Hoping to enter flowering stages next week, so gearing up for that, but repotting tomorrow so will try to get some repotting pics too :thumbsup:
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Now, I have a question regarding interrupting lighting schedules. I've got some electrical work being done at the end of the month, which I cannot postpone. The electric supply will be cut off for around 20 minutes. This will coincide with the lighting schedule for the girls......I'm going to open up the tent during the electrical work to try to get as much natural lighting on them as possible, but it won't be direct sunlight. Will this have any impact on the girls? is there anything else we can do to promote light on the plants without any electric supply? We can't put the girls outside due to being overlooked by lots of nosy neighbors, and the lighting schedule (12/12) will be programmed for daylight hours, as the fans make a bit of a noise which is really noticable at night so attracts less attention being run during the daytime. Unable to use a petrol generator or anything like that (don't have one and also would draw attention). Any advice highly appreciated!! Thanks guys :jointsmile:
CovertCarpenter
06-09-2010, 07:57 PM
...find a local 'dollar' or cheapie store, and pick up a buncha LED 'stick-em' lights... (the ones that are normally 8-9 bux at the WM or building supply store are buck-fitty knockoffs at the dollar store)...
and probably a buncha batteries, too, unless you're good with 5v DC power supplies.
As long as there's at least some light during the Period Of No Incoming Electricity, they should just interpret that 'day' as being a bit 'overcast'.
flyinhi
06-09-2010, 09:31 PM
Hey thanks CC, dunno why I never thought of that? Heads a bit minced just now :stoned: so imagination dried up lol. I got a few of them kicking about....used them as 'night lights' for the kids when they were babies and then the dogs when we first got them....dogs are spolied as much as the kids haha.
I'll pick up a few more before no-electric day, and hopefully the ladies will just think it's a crap day :thumbsup:
flyinhi
06-24-2010, 11:07 AM
Well, I been having major problems with a dodgy computer.....couldn't get online, couldn't do anything! So, finally gave up and got a new one....and back on here to update you all on the girls :)
All are growing.....my god have they grown!! We're on day 10 of flowering cycle now, and stunned at just how much they've grown. Every day has added an inch or so. If they don't slow down soon, they'll be either homeless or we will be lol. They have so loved being under the big lights and the 12/12 schedule.
The 2 plants that somehow divided in the pots at the base of the stems are currently the largest of the girls and have a lot more potential bud sites than the others....I meant to get pics of them, but forgot, so will try to remember next time! Touch wood.....we haven't had any further major headaches in regards to equipment issues or plant health.....so doing something right :thumbsup: We also took a few cuttings the day before the girls went into flower mode, didnt have a clue if they'd take as we've never done this before.....but read up and got loads of advice and tips from on here, so alls good there now too; the babies seem to be itching to grow up!
Here's a few pics of the big girls first:
One of a few of the girls:
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the top of one of the girls:
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A closer look at the top of one of the girls
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Next, we have a few pics of the cuttings. Originally, there was a lot more of them, but due to restricted growing room (as dictated by the older plants!), we decided the others involved in the overall grow could take their cuttings home and grow their own! Our grow tent is so full with the older plants, we don't really have room for giving board and lodgings in future grows lol. Anyway, as a result of having a lot more cuttings originally, we didn't realise until today that some roots were showing......so these babies are going to be re-homed as soon as I've finished on here. Have to admit we were very excited to see the roots (even though they don't like the lights really) as it meant our cutting processes had worked and we hadn't lost any of them....until we noticed them today, we weren't actually sure if any roots had formed.....but the proof is in the photos lol:
All the babies:
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roots!:
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roots again:
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one of the babies:
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Well, that's all for now.....will update in a few days on ladies and babies :thumbsup: very much enjoying seeing both sets develop.....means we're doing something right!! But as always, have to say a huge thank you to all you guys for your logs, advice and criticism........without all that, newbies like us would have sunk a long time ago!!! :rasta::rastasmoke::thumbsup:
CovertCarpenter
06-24-2010, 05:24 PM
...a freshly-rooted clone, and those look gorgeous!
The fact that you took those clippings just pre-flower is also great! They should have just enough time to veg up, before needing to go to flower mode.
For anything in veg, the prevailing wisdom seems to be 18/6 lighting.
Going 12/12 immediately actually doesn't help speed things up much, according to some people whose opinions I value...
Those lil' ones need either a bit more dirt now, or to be put into some kinda hydro solution asap... biggest mistake (imho) would be to ignore 'em for a few days... Don't ask me How I Know This :( They look like they're practically begging ya for some nice, fluffy, perlite-y soil :)
Keep up the good work, mon! And keep posting those great pix!
Kingpiner
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
dooobster that pic looks almost unreal man, never seen that before, how long was it germination to harvest and what kind of light did you keep on her?
flyinhi
06-24-2010, 09:31 PM
Well thank you CC :) As I say, having never grown but only watched grows before, everything is a learning curve, but very pleased with both the big girls grown from seed and the clones :) yeah we're gonna do 18/6 with the clones.....they're in their new homes now.....and boy did they need em!! Sticking to growing in soil, as that's what we been doing with the big girls, and don't wanna start messing about trying new things til we got a bit more experience, so the babies will be in soil for the whole grow too.
Kingpiner.....we aint reached harvest yet, just onto day 10 of flowering the big girls, and it's our first grow, so been a bit nervous at times lol. We're using HIDs for the ladies since they were about a foot tall. I haven't measured them (must remember to next time though!) but they gotta be around 3 - 3 and a half foot tall now. We grew them from seeds....only took about 3 days for the seeds to crack open (using the damp paper towel method). Had a few palpitations along the way with light and heat issues, but the ladies are tough cookies and haven't suffered any side effects from our ignorance so far! :thumbsup:
the clones we took the day before the girls went on 12/12 lighting schedule, so are 9 day old clones.....stomach went nuts when we saw those roots! Having never grown from seed before OR taken cuttings, we wasn't sure how well these plants would go....but they been getting a shedload of TLC and are loving it. And the clones as you can see have taken very nicely :) using clonex rooting gel and some jiffy pouches. Been spraying base of clones and a light spray on foliage a couple times a day and keeping them in a heated propagator with 24/0 T5 lights, making sure it's warm and humid in the cabinet too.....don't have a humidty monitor in the cloning cabinet but everything has gone according to plan though we will get one for future cloning.
Well, the big girls have gone to bed for the night, so next time they get fed, I'll get some new pics and try to remember to take a few pics of the double-stemmer plants.....so far they're showing at least 8 bud sites on each stem....almost wish I had taken clones from those girls now lol. Thanks for the comments guys.... :jointsmile:
flyinhi
06-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Oh, meant to ask.....what's the thoughts on lighting times for the clones. I mean, do we wait until they're the 10"-12" to put them on 18/6 lights? Still have them on 24/0 for now, but as they're cuttings and not grown from seed this time, just wondered if there's any difference in timescales for lighting schedules? Man that sounds a bit garbled, head's getting a bit minced now lol, so hope you get what I mean!
flyinhi
06-25-2010, 01:48 PM
As promised, here is a pic or 2 of one of the double stemmed plants, along with a quick shot of 4 of the clones in their new homes.
Four babies, just been sprayed:
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one of the 'twins':
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At the base of the stem:
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"Awww wow, it's a girl!!":
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In regards to the 2 double stemmed plants, both were germinated from one seed.....the results being that for some reason each plant must have divided at some point......giving us 2 'sets of twins'!! Anyone else had this?
flyinhi
06-27-2010, 12:37 PM
Well, the girls are showing some active bud sites now, this is the bit we have been eagerly awaiting! Seeing the bud sites at last means we're on the last stage of the grow and we know it won't be long until those girls are harvested and being smoked :rasta:
Here's a few shots of a few of the girls.....sorry about the yellowish lighting!
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Next time round i think I'll get some lighting arranged under the main leaves, as there was quite a lot of dried up leaves falling off. The heat here is unreal at the moment too, so gonna have to feed the girls every 2 days instead of every 3 days.....
The clones seem to be doing okay. A couple didn't take, but it's not a big deal as between us we have enough to keep us all happy. Will get new pics of them in a few days, or whenever they look like they've grown more.
Happy smoking folks!! :rastasmoke:
flyinhi
07-02-2010, 09:33 PM
Well, I'm pleased that I can start showing you guys some 'bud porn' :jointsmile: at last! Every day there seems to be more and more bud sites on each of the girls. I'll be posting more pics now there's actually something to show!!
Thinking we may have to get some canes to support the stems as the buds get bigger and heavier.....obviously not gonna be upset by that though!! ;)
Here's the latest pics:
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Am thinking they're looking good so far....can't wait for smoking day :D
flyinhi
07-02-2010, 09:45 PM
It's not letting me add all the pics, so hopefully here's the others. Failing that, I'll upload to the album and you can view in there
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Hmmm, for some reaosn I can only add 2 pics at a time. Oh well, so be it!! Another post in a second then lol
flyinhi
07-02-2010, 09:48 PM
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Thats all for now folks....more in a day or two....happy smokin :rastasmoke:
CovertCarpenter
07-03-2010, 10:42 AM
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Thats all for now folks....more in a day or two....happy smokin :rastasmoke:
Mmmmm, Buuuud!
But ya beat me to it!
Is that the 'orange' of an HPS I see?
flyinhi
07-07-2010, 11:56 AM
Yep, sure is the glow from the lights CC....took plants out their tent today and put normal overhead lights on to try to get a better color quality....still too much glow from the tent, so todays pics still have a slight hue to them.
First pic is of one of the twins (for those that don't know, we have 2 plants that somehow divided into 2 operational stems several weeks after the seedlings were transplanted. Still guessing it's a genetic thing, as only one seedling was planted in each pot. Oh well!). Both twins are growing as well as the rest, with the added (hopefully) bonus of producing double the amount of bud compared to one plant.....seems to be working that way so far anyways :D
Twin:
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Close up of a budding stem:
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I'll put the rest of the pics in the family album, as haven't added in there for a bit, so will be good to compare the new pics to the last lot added.
The cuttings are thriving well now - lots of new growth. Will get a pic of them later at feeding time. Did have a few days of concern, as they looked a bit sad and not well, a few discolored leaves and things, but feeling quite happy and more relaxed with all the new greenery they're now showing :thumbsup:
:rasta:
flyinhi
07-07-2010, 12:10 PM
oops, forgot to add the album link above and can't see the 'edit' bit to add it into last post.....bad pain day = messed head day :(
Have a look at the rest of the pics here: Cannabis Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News (http://boards.cannabis.com/album.php?albumid=649)
and feel free to comment, good or bad, as it always helps us novices :)
:smokin:
flyinhi
07-09-2010, 01:42 PM
Well, as promised, here's a couple of pics of the cuttings. Now 24 days old and seem to be thriving well. Treating them exactly the same way as we did with the mother plants, which were grown from seed, so hopefully these little girls will grow as beautiful as their moms are :)
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Soon be time to put in bigger homes. I won't bore you with lots of clone pics, not until the exciting times ahead :thumbsup: but have added a few more pics of the babies in the family albums :D
Happy growing! :jointsmile:
drudown11
07-18-2010, 01:12 AM
Well, as promised, here's a couple of pics of the cuttings. Now 24 days old and seem to be thriving well. Treating them exactly the same way as we did with the mother plants, which were grown from seed, so hopefully these little girls will grow as beautiful as their moms are :)
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Soon be time to put in bigger homes. I won't bore you with lots of clone pics, not until the exciting times ahead :thumbsup: but have added a few more pics of the babies in the family albums :D
Happy growing! :jointsmile:
Clones look really good man. It looks like they went through the process with minimal stress and theyre already sprouting new growth.
bluntar
07-22-2010, 03:51 AM
im lookin at your "day 22" pics. how many more days untill you harvested? or is that up to date. i swear you came over and took pictures of my girls lol.
flyinhi
08-01-2010, 02:31 PM
Well, I been a bit quiet the last couple of weeks. Just watching and waiting and feeding etc. According to my calculations, we're on day 47 of flowering....but it's a bit of a :stoned: day, so my math might not be spot on, not that I was ever good at math anyways!
I've had to tie some of the girls up.....getting kinda heavy and full, which hoping means lots of good stuff on those buds :thumbsup: Another week or so and they'll get the chop. Seriously needing their home for the young uns, who are growing up fast. So, started cutting back on the nutes to give them a good flush, while the little kids have just started on their watered down nutes.
Now, I guess you're waiting to see how the ladies are doing. usual story - yellowish pics due to HPS lights, but I've tried using a flash on some of them, so they are semi better lol. Here goes - never sure if this will work or not, so might have to do a few posts to get them all in!:
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flyinhi
08-01-2010, 02:43 PM
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Bluntar: We're still growing, so all pics are (or have been) up to date. Planning on harvesting in the next week or so. And I promise I ain't been over and snapped pics of your girls ;) lol.
Enjoy the pics guys :jointsmile:
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