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copobo
05-07-2010, 09:58 PM
Rob Corry doesn't think National Guard should have seized MMJ cards on 4/20, Scott Renfroe - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/05/rob_corry_doesnt_think_nationa.php)

Senator Scott Refroe
Colorado Senate

Denver, CO

Re: Your Call for Government Military Force Used Against Coloradans Suffering from Debilitating Medical Conditions

Dear Senator Renfroe:

I called your office to discuss this with you in a civilized manner, but your voice mail is full, so I write instead. Perhaps those who filled your voice mail share my shock that a serving Colorado State Senator would, on the floor of the State Senate, call for armed military troops to forcibly take away the personal property (State-issued Medical Marijuana Registry Cards) of Colorado's medical marijuana patients, peacefully exercising their First Amendment rights on April 20, 2010 at a permitted event in Denver's Civic Center Park:

I am baffled as to how a Republican who trumpets Christian beliefs and alleges support of "small government, property rights, individual liberty, and protecting life" would advocate -- even as legislative hyperbole -- the use of armed government military force against people who are doing nothing worse than exercising their constitutional rights to express opinions with which you may personally disagree. Many of these suffering patients are disabled veterans who served their country in wartime, and suffer from war-related debilitating medical conditions.

Your hateful words have caused widespread panic among Colorado's patients, who already fear of the "auditors with guns" your colleague Senator Chris Romer pledges to unleash on them through the passage of House Bill 1284.

Your statements do have one side benefit: you have helped expose the contempt that many legislators have for the Colorado Constitution, Article XVIII §14, protecting the medical use of marijuana for people suffering from debilitating medical conditions. Thanks to you, Coloradans (and perhaps reviewing courts) will be able to view legislative intent and motivation on this issue in the proper context.

The damage has probably already been done, but perhaps you can minimize it if you act quickly and decisively. Thus, please immediately retract, in writing, your utterly irresponsible and fearsome statements, and clarify that you do not support the use of government military forces against peaceful medical marijuana patients. I will be happy to help publicize your retraction if you provide it to me.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this important request, and please do not hesitate to call me if you would like to discuss this further. My office phone is 303-634-2244 and cell phone is 720-629-7112.

Sincerely,

Robert J. Corry, Jr.

throatstick
05-07-2010, 10:35 PM
wow i did'nt even know that was going on.after hearing that i must inform you all of what is going on else where too.in a couple other big cities across america they are toying with allowing national guards to police along side the leo's in the city.1 thing is nat guards don't have to go by the law as leo's do.they can come in your home when ever they plz pretty much.as if they are called in what the state is saying is it has pretty much become a war zone of types.you can tell me to get out the tinfoil all ya want but i urge everyone to see the bigger picture here..

Justabloke
05-08-2010, 03:01 AM
And they get mad when you call em a Nazi to their face! But that's clearly what this is. Tyranny plain and simple. It's what I've been saying for years now.

Renfro and Nazis just like him are what is ruining America today and frankly it's not going to get any better before it gets worse.

j

copobo
05-08-2010, 06:06 AM
Renfroe responds
Medical marijuana attorney Rob Correy demands apology | The Spot (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2010/05/07/mmj-attorney-demands-apology-renfroe-clarifies-intent-of-remarks/)

FarmerSteve
05-08-2010, 08:41 AM
Somebody on the Denver Post site said that the "new weed at 20% THC is clinically proven to burn holes in your lungs".

Never heard that before. I feel fine, and I know I smoke the DANK.

This has GOT to be propaganda right?

Right???????:wtf:

lampost
05-08-2010, 08:54 AM
Whatup Steve. We be the frickin' late owls up on this mofo!

I remember people saying back 15 years ago that "clove" cigarettes would literally put holes in your lungs. They were super harsh and some of my friends stopped smoking them. I assume it's BS as I've never seen any kind of proof of this...

Made another trip to Herbal Elements. Chem-D ain't near as tasty, but noticeably more potent I think... or maybe it was just my mood/settings. I think I heard you speak highly of the sweet skunk and I'd have to agree. Very nice. Reminds me of something else I recently smoked and pretty sure not Island Sweet Skunk.
Lastly picked up some UK Cheese. Not sure on this as I just smoked a tiny bit. Gonna break it out again here in a moment.
You would not believe how high I am right now! It's been an all night smokeout. Had a killer migraine and just wanted to see if I could smoke enough to dent it (usually herb is just a prophylactic for my migraines and doesn't do shit to alleviate pain once they come on). I caught the migraine obviously before I was at the deathly-throbbing point where I had to lay down in a dark room. And after several bowls I'm not even noticing it anymore:D
Shit, I'm rambling. Peace.

Justabloke
05-08-2010, 09:36 AM
Hey Steve and Lampost :)

I would reallllllly like to see his sources on that. Cause that's jus and only fear mongreing!

Well I'm off back to bed. I'll talk to you guys tomorrow afternoon.

Oh, before I do, Steve? Did you get my email/post?


Niters,
b

FarmerSteve
05-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Yeah, I got that Bloke.

I'm going to have to push like mad to make it up to Ned. I feel like poo-poo at the moment. It's been a great day, but my bios is going through some hell right now.

I DIG that sweet skunk, weird high for me though. And the Chem 4 was what was making me drool last time, although I have to agree, it wasn't as tasty this time. I also got some Sour D on my last stop, and while the taste wasn't all that good, mediocre at best, the dang high was :stoned:

The best D I have ever gotten was from GM a few months back. "That Sour D".
It was on par with Brian's and Jeff's best, and that's saying something.

I hope they get it back someday.

peace.

Reenster
05-08-2010, 12:24 PM
After reading Renfroe's response to Mr Corry I felt I had to do some writing therapy. I doubt he will read it, and if so I doubt he will get it but I thought I would share with you.


Dear Senator Renfore,

I am writing in response to your position and the national guard on 4/20. The thought that one of our elected officials would actually consider, even to make a point, calling the national guard on peaceful protesters is absolutely unforgivable.

I happen to be a middle age woman and I was out there on April 20th. Understand please that I have been active in Marijuana reform for 40 years, it is obvious to me peaceful civil disobedience is the only way. What you do not understand is that many of those protesting were actually NOT medical marijuana patients.

There is, of course, abuse in the medical marijuana system. If you can name just one governing agency that does not have corruption I would love to know what it is. When an agency is run as poorly as CDPHE is in regards to addressing applications for registration that abuse will be more rampant.

You speak of the drug czar's mention of drug overdose deaths being more than guns. I fail to understand how that applies to marijuana in any way. Ask any medical professional, there has never been one death related to marijuana.

I have been smoking medicinally and for recreation now going on 40+ years. I am a productive member of society, I have raised my children, vote, and feel its well past time for reform.

Alcohol has been a much more destructive force in my life. My father was an alcoholic, my grandfather before him and the impact on our family was devastating . Please actually do the research with open eyes and see marijuana is the safer alternative. Life is complicated and busy, having a safe method to relax is paramount to living health. Marijuana sincerely helps the medical situations I have developed over the last decade or so. No more phenobarbital, no more addictive pain killers, 99% of the time either a dose of tincture, a few hits of a small glass pipe or eating medicated food will take care of it.

It is time to rid ourselves of the Reefer Madness hysteria and look at this in the light. Really look at the places where marijuana has been decriminalized or legalized, crime is down and usage among young people is dropping. Take the money from prosecuting non violent drug offenders and use it to educate our young. Lets keep them away from what is really dangerous, ignorance.

Although I fear you will not read this much less take it to heart I feel it is imperative that I let you know my feelings. You are not my elected official, and I am so proud that the Senator for my area vote NO on this bill, you sir are the embarrassment to Colorado not peaceful demonstrators.

To give you another look at YOUR war on drugs I will link this YouTube video. Please look at it and see what your ideals are doing to good American families.

Respectfully,

Feijao
05-08-2010, 02:52 PM
Awesome Reenster! Can you post the Youtube clip that you wanted him to check out as well.

Thanks,
Mike

Colodonmed
05-08-2010, 03:15 PM
Amen to that, renfroe must go! What kind of an idiot would want to call out the military on it own citizens. The guy is scary, he needs to resign or be voted out. What a jerk. I am noticing the call for the military to police the citizens seems to be on the rise, such as recently in Chicago. WTH is going on?

puntacometa
05-08-2010, 04:10 PM
Renfroe responds
Medical marijuana attorney Rob Correy demands apology | The Spot (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2010/05/07/mmj-attorney-demands-apology-renfroe-clarifies-intent-of-remarks/)

As much as I hate this new legislation, this statement...


Our Colorado Constitution states no person shall engage in the medical use of marijuana in plain view of, or in a place open to, the general publicā?¦ and the state shall revoke for a period of one year the registry identification card of any patient found to have willfully violated the provisions of this section.

,if correct (I wasn't at the rally so I have no firsthand knowldege of this open use of pot, which would be in clear violation of the same amendment that we are trying to protect), is proof that our own actions are counterproductive. We need to look long and hard about how our own actions are feeding the stereotype that is driving anti MMJ legislation. I did read an article in our local paper here that described the racket that could be heard inside the building as the legislators were debating this bill. This debate wasn't about de facto legalization and wasn't supposed to be. It sounds like we , ourselves, poisoned the atmosphere. It obviously added more fuel to the fire of the opponents who want to characterize us as a bunch of stoner/slackers. It was absolutely stupid to hold a pro-legalization rally (if this is what it was) at such a critical time. All we did was screw ourselves over. Sorry, but if we're going to advocate for the protections of our constitutional rights, we also need to obey the law ourselves.

I've got my asbestos underwear on. Flame away...I'm ready..
:D

Colodonmed
05-08-2010, 05:37 PM
As much as I hate this new legislation, this statement...



,if correct (I wasn't at the rally so I have no firsthand knowldege of this open use of pot, which would be in clear violation of the same amendment that we are trying to protect), is proof that our own actions are counterproductive. We need to look long and hard about how our own actions are feeding the stereotype that is driving anti MMJ legislation. I did read an article in our local paper here that described the racket that could be heard inside the building as the legislators were debating this bill. This debate wasn't about de facto legalization and wasn't supposed to be. It sounds like we , ourselves, poisoned the atmosphere. It obviously added more fuel to the fire of the opponents who want to characterize us as a bunch of stoner/slackers. It was absolutely stupid to hold a pro-legalization rally (if this is what it was) at such a critical time. All we did was screw ourselves over. Sorry, but if we're going to advocate for the protections of our constitutional rights, we also need to obey the law ourselves.

I've got my asbestos underwear on. Flame away...I'm ready..
:D
I wasn't there either but it was a 420 rally as far as I understand, not a medical marijuana support rally, and the 420 rally's occur all over the U.S. and in many other countries across the globe. It was just coincidental the legislature was discussing the mmj bill on that date at that time. Regardless of the open smoking of marijuana, if enforced by the police as per the constitution as any other law is and or should be that is one thing, but for an elected official to even begin to suggest that the MILITARY should have been used to enforce the law is a very scary statement to me. This is the United States of America, not Iran, Russia, North Korea or any of the other countries that release their own military forces on their citizens. It is wrong! that kind of brings to light all the talk and info about the FEMA detention camps. That representative does not belong in OUR legislature, regardless of every citizens opinion on the use of MMJ, all citizens should be protected from the type of thoughts and statements that renfroe suggested.

throatstick
05-08-2010, 07:14 PM
I wasn't there either but it was a 420 rally as far as I understand, not a medical marijuana support rally, and the 420 rally's occur all over the U.S. and in many other countries across the globe. It was just coincidental the legislature was discussing the mmj bill on that date at that time. Regardless of the open smoking of marijuana, if enforced by the police as per the constitution as any other law is and or should be that is one thing, but for an elected official to even begin to suggest that the MILITARY should have been used to enforce the law is a very scary statement to me. This is the United States of America, not Iran, Russia, North Korea or any of the other countries that release their own military forces on their citizens. It is wrong! that kind of brings to light all the talk and info about the FEMA detention camps. That representative does not belong in OUR legislature, regardless of every citizens opinion on the use of MMJ, all citizens should be protected from the type of thoughts and statements that renfroe suggested.

i'll have to add to that how convenient that they held the bill meeting on that day hummm.it's also odd you never heard this any other time.this has been going on for years in the same place YEARS.now this guy feels the need to bring it up and then say on top of it we need military force? hummmm.all on the cusp of this bill.something to think about.

Reenster
05-08-2010, 09:29 PM
Awesome Reenster! Can you post the Youtube clip that you wanted him to check out as well.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, it was that terrible video that you did not wish to watch (can't blame ya) with the dog shooting swat team.

puntacometa
05-09-2010, 03:07 AM
i'll have to add to that how convenient that they held the bill meeting on that day hummm.it's also odd you never heard this any other time.this has been going on for years in the same place YEARS.now this guy feels the need to bring it up and then say on top of it we need military force? hummmm.all on the cusp of this bill.something to think about.

.......that really was a bit of an unfortunate coincidence wasn't it? What a great opportunity for grandstanding. OTOH, it would have served us better to have honored the same constitutional amendment that we are slagging them for violating. As far as bringing the military into this.......:wtf:

throatstick
05-09-2010, 03:51 AM
.......that really was a bit of an unfortunate coincidence wasn't it? What a great opportunity for grandstanding. OTOH, it would have served us better to have honored the same constitutional amendment that we are slagging them for violating. As far as bringing the military into this.......:wtf:

FIRST OFF I DID NOT ATTEND.2ND ANYONE THAT WENT THAT HAD A CARD THATS ON THEM. I GO BY THE LAW TO THE LETTER SO I HAVE NEVER DONE IT IN PUBLIC. BUT THIS GUY SEEMED FINE WITH IT FOR ALL THESE YEARS BUT NOW IT'S A PROBLEM.YOU REALLY THINK IT WOULD HAVE SERVED US BETTER TO HAVE HONORED THAT? YOU THINK IT WOULD REALLY MATTER?OH WAIT YEA IM SURE HE WOULD HAVE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART IF THEY DID'NT GO. ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT WENT IM SURE DID'NT EVEN HAVE A CARD.....

Dorje113
05-09-2010, 04:32 AM
I wasn't there either but it was a 420 rally as far as I understand, not a medical marijuana support rally, and the 420 rally's occur all over the U.S. and in many other countries across the globe. It was just coincidental the legislature was discussing the mmj bill on that date at that time. Regardless of the open smoking of marijuana, if enforced by the police as per the constitution as any other law is and or should be that is one thing, but for an elected official to even begin to suggest that the MILITARY should have been used to enforce the law is a very scary statement to me. This is the United States of America, not Iran, Russia, North Korea or any of the other countries that release their own military forces on their citizens. It is wrong! that kind of brings to light all the talk and info about the FEMA detention camps. That representative does not belong in OUR legislature, regardless of every citizens opinion on the use of MMJ, all citizens should be protected from the type of thoughts and statements that renfroe suggested.

I agree... but most people, including our Senator, aren't able to make the distinction between a 420 rally and mmj.

The whole "call in the troops" thing should get him fired. Military are not police, and are not trained for that purpose. Suggesting to use a military force against a peaceful protest shouldn't be tolerated.