1000w hps. 4 plant Grow log

[drudown11]

well guys my camera has been broken so i havent been able to keep you guys updated with all of my recent grows.

I would love to have posted pictures and talked about bending and LST'ing technniques during veg but like i said my camera was fucked up and i just got a new one. I bend and LST the shit outta these babies as an expirement to see how much you can really bend a plant(ive seen so many giant LST'd bushes on the internet i was envious lol)
I found at that LST is one of the EASIEST ways to increase yield. The only downside is the increased veg time. Topping requires around 2 weeks before the plant is truely recovered, but bending can be done even in flowering, with minimal stress to the plant(hence the term Low Stress Training


The setup:

Lighting:1000 watt hps(+250 MH during last 6 weeks)
Photoperiod: 13 light/11 dark I have read things saying that many strains will flower fine under 13 hours of light(in fact i read that it increases yield) so for this run i decided to do a little experiment...... i havent been deissapointed so far
Temperature: 80 degress during day, 65 during night
PH: 6.7(and if it fluctuates i just adjust my nutrient solution with ph up or down)
Growing Medium: Fox Farms Ocean Forest
Pot size: 7 Gallons
C02 Enrichment: only during veg
Fertalizer/supplements: Fox farm's grow big, big bloom, and tiger bloom. Dark energy(that stuffs the shit and it smells like it), Cal mag +, Flora Nectar Pineapple rush, Atami Bloombastic(during last 4 weeks, and not to be used with the dark energy), and clearex to give them a nice flush.

[drudown11]

so ill be back on later with a couple more pics. This grow is not located at my place of living so i will be back later with a little more of an update.

Its been so long since i can take pics I feel like you guys missed my whole grow!!

[xxMrGreenThumbx]

woow nyc plants

[whitem5]

Wow lol we both have almost identical grows going except im not bending or LST'ing.. I got 4 ww under a 1000 w using the same soil got the same ph the same temps lol.. Only im using advanced nuets.. Good luck bro :thumbsup:

[drudown11]

Wow lol we both have almost identical grows going except im not bending or LST'ing.. I got 4 ww under a 1000 w using the same soil got the same ph the same temps lol.. Only im using advanced nuets.. Good luck bro :thumbsup:



how are those nutes going for you. I love fox farms and ive always had good experiences with them, but i heard Advanced is the best in the bizzz. After this run I was thinking about going with the Sensi grow and bloom but just wanted to hear from personal experience. Ya know instead of listening to all of AN's ads that say its the shit. One thing Ive always noticed about FF is that the taste and smell is always kinda sweet and i almost feel like sticking with with.

[whitem5]

I switched nuets about half way through veg on my current grow i was using gen hyp before that and i noticed a big difference right away in just the general health of my girls.. They turned a MUCH healthier looking green and started growing at a much faster rate lol.. But never tried FF so i dont know if it would be the same for you or not.. But so far NO complaints with them.. Im using the 3 part Grow Micro Bloom and Big Bud as a sup. Ill take some new pics tomorrow for ya :D Your girls look awesome i would stick with what your using now.. If its not broke dont fix it lol

[drudown11]

Alright so in a few days i am going to throw in my 250 watt light. Its a Lumatek and is switchable from MH to HPS and i have both bulbs. I want to use the MH so i can give them some blue light and give them a more balanced spectrum. Ive never tried it, but ive read that combing MH and HPS and giving them the whole spectrum is the best possible way to light your garden. Has any one tried this? Or should i just give them the HPS bulb because it delivers more lumens if light to the plants?



Any thoughts? It would be appreciated.:thumbsup::rasta:

[Charbud]

Those babies are looking nice man. Only thing i was thinking isnt a 1000watt and a 250 a bit overkill ? i dont persoanlly own either but just from reading i thought a 400 would have done em justice ! keep em green ;)

[drudown11]

the thing is I have it just lying around. I was using it to flower some plants DWC plants in my closet buy im about to cut them down. So the light will not be in use. I mine as well throw it in there, the edges of the garden are looking a little dark.

Its actually a bigger room than you think, there is another plant on the left that is just barely in the picture. The plants are about 5 feet tall with the tallest top a little lower than my chin. I have about 2 more feet of headroom before i have to start worrying about height. If i had the money I would use 2 600 watters to illuminate this room so i could put the bulbs closer. The great thing about the 250 watt light is that it runs so damn cool, it wouldnt really impact the temp and i can put it extra close to the plants(like 10 inches).

[drudown11]

Those babies are looking nice man. Only thing i was thinking isnt a 1000watt and a 250 a bit overkill ?

NOPE!!!!! haha


all ive noticed with all of that light is big, fat, sticky green corn cobs. Ounces of them!!

[Charbud]

I'll take your word for it ! Ill sub and see these cobs when there done !

[drudown11]

i wanna get together all of my friends and have a sword fight with the top colas. hahaha thatll be the day

[drudown11]

and your invited CHARBUD!!!, you can supply the armor made of Hashish.

[drudown11]

added the 250 mh, but im gunna switch it too a 250 HPS here this week.


3 weeks into flower.

[Giggitagator]

nice probably no one can tell but that room is like 9x5':rastasmoke:

[drudown11]

i officially cannot move myself, or the plants around in the room anymore.

I have been giving them Silica Blast by botincare in order to beef the stems up for flowering. Since i LST'd them there is gunna be a HUGE amount of weight on the bottom stems and stalks. A SCROG would be good for this grow except i cant get to the corners of the room to hang a screen. I can only crawl under the canopy, and thats the only way i can access the plants in the back

[drudown11]

im never flowering under 12/12 ever again. 13/11 seems to be working great

[drudown11]

More Updated pics.


I just cleared them all out with two waterings of Clearex.

I now am feeding them a Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Flora Nectar Pineapple Rush, Atami Bloombastic, and Silicate nutrient mix. Im noticing a little bit of leaf burn with the Bloombastic but its nothing im really worried about. The burn is minimal and its just telling me that theyve had enough.





If you look close in the First pic youll Notice PURPLE!!! I will try and take nighttime pictures because 2 of the purple plants have developed dark purple colas that are hard to really see with the HPS lighting. Its starting to get stinky in here.:rasta::thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

very nice lookin ladies you got there.

Is that the same bloombastic that has diamonds on the box? The one that is very expensive? lol... Curious to see if its worth it. Have you used it before? Ever tried running a side by side comparison?

[Charbud]

Very late with the hashish joke but what the hell !! Their all lookin good though my friend :) I think your colas would definately bang mine down anyday !

[drudown11]

very nice lookin ladies you got there.

Is that the same bloombastic that has diamonds on the box? The one that is very expensive? lol... Curious to see if its worth it. Have you used it before? Ever tried running a side by side comparison?

haha yes it is that stuff. Dont worry I DID NOT PAY MONEY FOR IT. The guy at the hydro store gave me a sample bottle(about half the size of the big bottle for like 89.95). It burns them if you use too much, its very concentrated so a little goes a long ways. I use 2 ML per 1 gallon of water.

I used it on my last grow but i didnt have anything to compare it with because all of the plants got fed with it.

[killfrenzi]

looks delicious:jointsmile:!!! I cant wait til mine are ready for flower. Kepp us posted!:thumbsup:

[drudown11]

fuck, i feel like i should have SCROG'd this grow. Colas are starting to lean, and i feel i could manage them better with a net, or something liket hat.

[killfrenzi]

And this is only 4 plants....? OMG!... Looks like 30, I guess thats 1 of the bennefits of LST, I did take your advice I started to LST 1 plant to see where it would lead me, no idea on sex, I figure a few more weeks and ill know. I also fimmed 1 plant and it seems to be taking on all the extra light like a champ!

Thanks and any advice from you is greatly apprecieated. I too will be growing 4 under 1000w Hps, Currently 8 under 400w Mh til I know sex of seedlings. 2 are clones.

Thankx and Good luck keeping your girls heads up;)

[PhatJay]

im never flowering under 12/12 ever again. 13/11 seems to be working great

This is something I was considering trying, I figured it would probably work. It's nice to know that it is working for you. Although like you said, it might be strain dependant.

I might have missed it, but I have read through the thread and I can't see what strain you are growing, any chance you could enlighten me?

[drudown11]

This is something I was considering trying, I figured it would probably work. It's nice to know that it is working for you. Although like you said, it might be strain dependant.

I might have missed it, but I have read through the thread and I can't see what strain you are growing, any chance you could enlighten me?



All of the strains i have are from bagseed. In my first couple of grows i sprouted and grew out maybe 30 bagseeds. Some of the strains grew very poorly, but i had a few that were keepers. I waited until all of the plants were in the 4th week of flower and took clones off of the best ones. Ive just been cloning and trying to improve on every strain that i have. Regardless i got pretty fucking lucky with the Purple strain. I would pay good money for those seeds on the interent,


Basically, i have no god damn idea what the hell they actually are. I have given my own names to them, but the real genetics are a mystery.

I have 3 different strains that i grow, 2 indica dominant strains and 1 sativa dominanate one. All of them jumped right into flower with the 13 hour days. I think some plants are alot more sensitive than others, but i also think 13 hours will do it just fine. I havent noticed a single problem, just more grotwth and it looks like my plants might mature a little faster than normal

Im an outdoor grower too and I always noticed my plants would sometimes sprout preflowers with about 14 hours of light. Indoors people usually use 12/12 because thats what they "heard" or read to do. I thought ide give it a try and im not turning back!

[drudown11]

Night time pictures.......

[drudown11]

Alright so i just started flushing one of the plants, she looks like shell be ready sometime next week. I have yet to check them with the microscope but i will soon.

Things are starting to get heavy and lean a little bit.

I took a picture of all the nutrients and supplements i use. I feel like if my weed was an athelete, my shit would be Barry Bonds. I sure hope i dont turn retarted in a couple or grow a thrid testicle. Actually.......a third testicle wouldnt be that bad hahaa

[RoundEye]

I'd like to see these girls after they've been trimmed and dried.

[drudown11]

up dated pics. 7 weeks into flower. Everything is going great and just putering along in the growroom.

Im noticing a little bit of leaf yellowing, but im not too worried about it. This plant is huge, and this is my highest yielding strain. It takes a little it longer to finish another 2-3 weeks maybe, but she really packs on the weight during the end.

God i just love the color of the purple bud. Definatly my favorite strain to grow, so beautiful. I have cultivated this strain at different tempertatures and the lower temps go the more of a dark grape purple it turns. With higher temps though it almost turns more of a pink. God dammit i wish i knew some genetics. I will be purchasing Soma Lavender seeds and breeding the male with my purps sometime in the near future. The purple plants are getting frosty everyday, and i aim to harvest at the 8-9 week mark. One more heavy nutrient feeding and then she gets the flush.


The last picture is of a plant thats getting the cut next week. Ive been flushing with clearex for the last 6 days, so another 4-5 days of plain water and shell get the scissors.

[PhatJay]

Absolutely beautiful... :giggity:

I have one question though. I've noticed that there are a few people on these forums who seem a little obsessed with the purple strains. Can you tell my why? Is it purely aesthetics, or do purple strains have a particular taste or aroma?

I remember smoking some purple weed about 6 or 7 years ago and it had a very distinctive taste and aroma that I liked (like Parma Violets, if you know what they are).

"The delicate purple flowers of the parma violet plant also give their name to a delicate, violet-scented sweet. Parma Violets, manufactured by Swizzels Matlow for decades"

[drudown11]

Absolutely beautiful... :giggity:

I have one question though. I've noticed that there are a few people on these forums who seem a little obsessed with the purple strains. Can you tell my why? Is it purely aesthetics, or do purple strains have a particular taste or aroma?

I remember smoking some purple weed about 6 or 7 years ago and it had a very distinctive taste and aroma that I liked (like Parma Violets, if you know what they are).

"The delicate purple flowers of the parma violet plant also give their name to a delicate, violet-scented sweet. Parma Violets, manufactured by Swizzels Matlow for decades"



My purple strain has a very sweet and fruity. The taste is also very sweet and sometimes you can taste a little bit of berry. Its also a very smooth enjoyable smoke and i rarely cough even when taking big old bong tokes. Its way more enjoyable to grow, than to smoke though. The beautiful aroma takes over the other plants in the garden and it just looks so exotic next to my other plants. I just look at alot of other growers gardens and its all green!

You cant argue with the bag appeal of a bag of purps. People just look at the shit and go crazy over it. Just the color of the buds is so different. Even the cannabis butter i make from the trimmings and small buds is purple. No shit.

[drudown11]

so basically the purple is just pretty to look at and has its own distinct smell and taste. Other than that, it grows just like any other strain.

[drudown11]

When i did DWC hydroponics with the same strange, bud growth was different. It seemed like the calyx's got more swollen, kinda like skittles or little grapes.

If there is another grow in this same location, it will be with 5 gallon bucket monsters. I dont mind using soil but my passion will always be hydroponics. I just love having ultimate control of everything my plants take in. And with a good air pump and air stones(or whatever) you can give your roots way more oxygen than soil ever could.

[drudown11]

Alright so i got some harvest pics for ya. About 8 weeks total flower and Ive been flushing for the last 2 weeks.


enjoy!!!!!

[drudown11]

sorry they wouldnt attach to the last post

[CovertCarpenter]

... (be gentle, now!), you need a 'holdback' string, to keep the bend in place, and a 'front' string, to hold the now-sideways top in place pointing the other way.

The now-sideways top will do its darnedest to 'escape' the front string, so you basically chase it around the stalk in a spiral. It will sprout new 'tops' as it goes. Encourage this, and when those are 'old enough', tie 'em sideways, too, if you haven't already run outta 'main pot' with the mainstalk.

Do it gently, and most strains of pot love it.

[drudown11]

... (be gentle, now!), you need a 'holdback' string, to keep the bend in place, and a 'front' string, to hold the now-sideways top in place pointing the other way.

The now-sideways top will do its darnedest to 'escape' the front string, so you basically chase it around the stalk in a spiral. It will sprout new 'tops' as it goes. Encourage this, and when those are 'old enough', tie 'em sideways, too, if you haven't already run outta 'main pot' with the mainstalk.

Do it gently, and most strains of pot love it.




im confused, this must have been a misplaced post.

[PhatJay]

Alright so i got some harvest pics for ya. About 8 weeks total flower and Ive been flushing for the last 2 weeks.


enjoy!!!!!

Looking good drudown, looking good. :thumbsup:

[killfrenzi]

Absolutely Delicious!!! Gotta love the autoflower strains; I am going to start flower on my grow in about 2 weeks! Looking forward to seeing what kinda results i will have with the LST method?


Once again I wanna take a Big BITE outta That Ginormous NuGg. SWEEEEET!

[drudown11]

Absolutely Delicious!!! Gotta love the autoflower strains; I am going to start flower on my grow in about 2 weeks! Looking forward to seeing what kinda results i will have with the LST method?




Its actaully not an auto flower strain. Im not positive, but im pretty sure its almost 100% indica. Really dense nugs, with wide, enormous fan leaves. My guess on final weight of that one plant is maybe 2 1/2 ounces, maybe.... Thats the only bad thing about the strain, its tasty but it yields poorly.
It was actually re vegged from one of my previous grows last December. Its a 7 month old plant that ive gotten 2 harvests out of. I wanted to re veg it again just for the fuck out it but i have clones of it so i just cut her all down.





the purple is coming down next...... i cant wait for her aroma to fill the air.

[drudown11]

gave the purple plants their last blast of Nutrients today. I will be flushing them for the next 1 1/2- 2 weeks and waiting for the leaves to yellow a little bit. Not flushing plants can really kill the taste and smell sometimes.

[GetThisOrDie]

Great lookin purps man.

Keep up the good work.

[dopet4h2c0]

lookin real good man:thumbsup:

[drudown11]

actually i lied..... they got a little longer than i thought, i can probably get one more feeding out of them bitches. I really like that Bloombastic and i am noticing alot more Trichomes than on previous grows,

[drudown11]

final weight on the first batch was 102 grams. 3 1/2 ounces if im correct.


I woulda guessed 2 1/2 but the buds are really dense. I like it when i get more than i expected.

[dopet4h2c0]

looking great dru hey i got a question what are you cooling your lights with?

[drudown11]

I dont cool my lights at all because the temps are pretty mild in Western Washington so it stays around 80-85 degrees without me needing extra ventilation. I just have aluminum wing reflectors.

Its not really the bulbs that raise my grow room temperature, its my ballast! Remove you ballast from your grow room if you can because those things get realllllyy hot.

Im gunna gather some funds from this harvest and invest in another 600 watt Lumatek, a good can fan, carbon filter and two cool tubes. Probably $700 in improvements, but i know its gunna be worth it in the end. My ventilation isnt adequate and its starting to really smell. Summer is coming so i know that im gunna need to cool my bulbs and deal with the odor.

[dopet4h2c0]

are you for real those lights get hot lol i wish i lived were you do lol

[CovertCarpenter]

im confused, this must have been a misplaced post.

You're right, dru... please forgive me! I throw myself on the mercy of the court, and ask that they take into account the verra finnnne Purple Kush I was smoking that day ;)

[drudown11]

You're right, dru... please forgive me! I throw myself on the mercy of the court, and ask that they take into account the verra finnnne Purple Kush I was smoking that day ;)

its all good brotha, I got so high the other day I put the cereal in the fridge and my milk in my pantry when i was done with breakfast. I always have sympathy for stoned mistakes.

[drudown11]

But great advice none the less!!!!

[drudown11]

Alright so I have so pics for you guys.


These babies are getting flushed and I plan on chopping them down down this saturday. Enjoy. I want to get a better camera and send some pics to hightimes.

Things are really starting to get heavy on these girls. Ive been giving them Silica Blast and ive noticed a huge difference in stem strength. They might bend, but they sure as hell wont break. Im guessing maybe 12 ounces per plant. Im hoping for 1 pound per plant, but i will be happy with whatever i get. We'll never know until i dry it and throw it on the scale.

[drudown11]

pictures of my other strain

[unknownwhyme]

very nice :P

[drudown11]

alright so the purple is coming down today!!! pictures will be postd later

[drudown11]

As soon as i took them out of the flowering room that fell over. The stems were so hard from the Silica I gave them that I have to use wire cutters to cut the stems, scissors just wont cut it.


enjoy!!

[drudown11]

here are some more. Hopefully high times puts some of my pictures on Pics of the Crop. I think the purple is absolutely beautiful

[bigsby]

Wow do those look nice. Is that a three gallon pot? How did it go with that?

[drudown11]

Wow do those look nice. Is that a three gallon pot? How did it go with that?


I should have put something in there for a size comparason. Those are actually 7 gallon pots.

[drudown11]

ohhhhh that smell.......cant you smell that smell.

[dopet4h2c0]

lol nice grow man make sure you post a dry weight and some pics of the cured buds gotta love them purps:rasta:

[drudown11]

alright so i have some finished pictures for you guys.
1 weeks of drying. 2 weeks of curing in jars

I got a total of 20 ounces off of two plants.


The last picture is some of the bubble hash i made from the clippings.
I also got 13 grams of bubble hash from the clippings.


20 ounces and a half an ounce of hash is going to last me and my family a whiille. I still have one more monster to cut down, so i have maybe 8 more ounces on the way.


The smoke is very fruity with a hint of sour grapes at the end. Use a grape wrap to roll a blunt and its a real treat:thumbsup: Its kind of a soft smoke and caughing is rare even with a big bong toke.

Aroma is amazing and its the first thing people notice when they smoke it. Very sweet, fruity, and a slight smell of cheesecake. When smoked, the smell is kind of like cat piss and kind of skunky,


Potency is great despite it being a purple strain. Its a creeping stone that takes 10 minutes to fully take effect. It makes me kind of anxious, and the sativa influence really fries my brain.

[khyberkitsune]

As soon as i took them out of the flowering room that fell over. The stems were so hard from the Silica I gave them that I have to use wire cutters to cut the stems, scissors just wont cut it.


enjoy!!

Silica is just awesome stuff. I've got bone shears that couldn't cut through the stems of my plants once you add silica!

Oh, yea, and these look awesome!

[dopet4h2c0]

great lookin nugz man:rasta:

[drudown11]

just weighed the other plant dry today and Had a 15 ounces total. I had two of my biggest coals fall victim to mold so i am postitive i would have gotten a pound off of this single plant.


the First plant i Harvested was 103 grams.

the two purple plants gave me 561 grams.

This last plant gave me 421 grams.

2.5 pounds total dry weight.
thats total of 1085 grams from 1250 watts of flowering light. That first plant yielded like shit or else i would have surpassed my "gram per watt" goals.

Sometimes, life is just good.:rasta:

ill be back with a smoke report and some pictures of some cured buds. Big giant Sativa buds that send you to the sky

[killfrenzi]

whats up Dru.... Been awhile.... I have been out of a camera and my net was down for a few weeks. You got a really nice yield off those 2 plants.:thumbsup: I have the same set up... Of course you already know this, but WOW! I have 8 plants so I am hoping for around 4 1/4 Lbs. I will hopefully have a camera Monday so I can post some new pics.

But my question here is.... What method did you use to cure?:D

[GetThisOrDie]

Great work Dru. Beautiful buds and beautiful yield...

That purple strain is an epic yielder for sure. I cant remember ever seeing bigger purple buds than that. Shes a keeper!

[drudown11]

whats up Dru.... Been awhile.... I have been out of a camera and my net was down for a few weeks. You got a really nice yield off those 2 plants.:thumbsup: I have the same set up... Of course you already know this, but WOW! I have 8 plants so I am hoping for around 4 1/4 Lbs. I will hopefully have a camera Monday so I can post some new pics.

But my question here is.... What method did you use to cure?:D




I cut each big stem off and hang it upside down for 8 days. I keep a fan in there to circulate air and I keep them in the complete darkness. When the out leaf stems snap off, i throw them in jars.(not the big inner stem, i dont like them that dry) I take the lid off 3 times a day for 10 mintues and move all of the nugs around. Now over the next couple of weeks your going to notice a drastic increase of the smell, taste, and bag appeal of the bud. 2 weeks is usually good enough, but the longer you cure it the better its gunna taste and smell.

Now the Grow bible says you should wait until the stems snap until you toss them in the jars. I find that method makes my bud too dry.

[irydyum]

Now the Grow bible says you should wait until the stems snap until you toss them in the jars. I find that method makes my bud too dry.

I'll second that:thumbsup: I usually hang about 5 then they get cut off the large stems and into an open jar for a couple days. Then I'll start the sealing and opening. I like the texture that comes out if you get them to dry out slowly, almost like the bud rips when you break into a nugget.

Great looking grow over here man, props. :clap::clap::clap:

[drudown11]

I'll second that:thumbsup: I usually hang about 5 then they get cut off the large stems and into an open jar for a couple days. Then I'll start the sealing and opening. I like the texture that comes out if you get them to dry out slowly, almost like the bud rips when you break into a nugget.

Great looking grow over here man, props. :clap::clap::clap:

yes sir i agree, the slower the drying and curing the better the product.

[drudown11]

just had someone call me and tell me that the hash i hooked them up with was too powerful. They smoked alittle of it and dont want it anymore haha It makes me feel really good about myself when my product gets peole so high they freak out. SCWWWEEEEETTTTT! haha

[PhatJay]

Hey Drudown, I was wondering if you could hook me up with a link to the silica that you use and mentioned in my grow log. So far I have only found this stuff >

GroWell > Liquid Silicon (http://www.growell.co.uk/p/2158/Liquid-Silicon.html) (Is this the right stuff?)

But I could do with finding alternatives as that grow shop is quite far from me.

[khyberkitsune]

Anything like GroTek Pro-Silicate, etc. It's all the same stuff, maybe slightly different concentrations and different silicates. Some use sodium silicate, some use potassium silicate.

[MimbresValley]

Great grow, and great read+rep

[weeddaddy50]

Love the purple....Sweet....:thumbsup:

[bcguy01]

those look really nice

[Akumasensei85]

I know this is an old post but I've decided to try your technique on my next grow, the 4 I will be using is trainwreck, blue mystic, G-13 Gigabud, and green poison. I'm intrigued to find out my results, I cannot wait to see how this all turnes out, I'll also be using the same chems as you. I'm motivated!