View Full Version : best way to approach dispensaries to sell product?
weekapaug74
04-22-2010, 09:49 PM
My friend is a first time grower. He has some extra B/B+ product. He provides to his patients at $200/oz and they are pleased.
Any suggestions on how he should approach dispensaries to sell his extra meds?
(Free samples to dispensaries are a given)
lampost
04-22-2010, 10:22 PM
Also curious about this...
Also, what is the minimum increment they will consider picking up? Would they purchase just 1-2 oz?
puremmj
04-22-2010, 10:39 PM
Get a business License, bank account, test your product, cause B grade is not Medical Grade.
AND GET READY TO START PAYING TAXES.
THIS ISN"T THE BLACK MARKET ANYMORE....
Frank
TheReleafCenter
04-23-2010, 12:39 AM
We'll always look at meds. Stop in.
puntacometa
04-23-2010, 12:40 AM
Also curious about this...
Also, what is the minimum increment they will consider picking up? Would they purchase just 1-2 oz?
If you are a patient growing for yourself, you are legal to carry two ounces to show them. If you are growing for other patients, you are legal to possess up to two ounces per patient. Drop by first and ask if they would like to take a look at your product. If they say yes, don't carry more than you are legally entitled to possess and have your paperwork ready.
demoreal
04-23-2010, 01:03 AM
Get a business License, bank account, test your product, cause B grade is not Medical Grade.
AND GET READY TO START PAYING TAXES.
THIS ISN"T THE BLACK MARKET ANYMORE....
Frank
Medical grade is just black market grade with the word medical thrown in front of it.
leadmagnet
04-23-2010, 01:58 AM
Medical grade is just black market grade with the word medical thrown in front of it.
You're kidding, right? People have high expectations for "medical grade cannabis" and if you don't cut the mustard word gets around fast. Most folks have little tolerance for those who sale sketchy cannabis to sick people.
demoreal
04-23-2010, 02:28 AM
You're kidding, right? People have high expectations for "medical grade cannabis" and if you don't cut the mustard word gets around fast. Most folks have little tolerance for those who sale sketchy cannabis to sick people.
At the dispensary I go too they have a star system 1 star bud to 5 star. Usually ranging from 10$ to about 18$ a gram. Here in Oakland California many people can not afford the 18$ grams. I have met many people that do not like stronger pot. They rather roll joints of more mild stuff. I guess it is different in Colorado.
"If its enough to fit in a blunt I do not care what it is"
"I only smoke full melt bubble, your not worth my time"
Here in California everyone likes different types of weed.
edit: especially when money is involved.
leadmagnet
04-23-2010, 02:46 AM
At the dispensary I go too they have a star system 1 star bud to 5 star. Usually ranging from 10$ to about 18$ a gram. Here in Oakland California many people can not afford the 18$ grams. I have met many people that do not like stronger pot. They rather roll joints of more mild stuff. I guess it is different in Colorado.
"If its enough to fit in a blunt I do not care what it is"
"I only smoke full melt bubble, your not worth my time"
Here in California everyone likes different types of weed.
edit: especially when money is involved.
When you put it that way, I see what you're saying and your comment about putting "medical" in front of it certainly does make sense.
Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy world but I'd llke to think we're less likely to see the crap one sometimes sees in the black market vs. what we usually come across in the medical cannabis community.
COfluffhead
04-23-2010, 02:52 AM
My friend is a first time grower. He has some extra B/B+ product. He provides to his patients at $200/oz and they are pleased.
Any suggestions on how he should approach dispensaries to sell his extra meds?
(Free samples to dispensaries are a given)
put it up on Phantasy Tour
demoreal
04-23-2010, 02:56 AM
When you put it that way, I see what you're saying and your comment about putting "medical" in front of it certainly does make sense.
Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy world but I'd llke to think we're less likely to see the crap one sometimes sees in the black market vs. what we usually come across in the medical cannabis community.
I usually see the same stuff. I think the reason is many of the growers that sell to the dispensaries also sell on the black market.
I am in a different state, and I am sure that makes a difference.
ThaiBuddhaMan
04-23-2010, 03:32 AM
My friend is a first time grower. He has some extra B/B+ product. He provides to his patients at $200/oz and they are pleased.
Any suggestions on how he should approach dispensaries to sell his extra meds?
(Free samples to dispensaries are a given)
To answer your question - it's pretty easy. I would call first and see if they accept outside vendors. Also check to see if they are even interested in the strain he has. Once that's taken care of, if it's still curing - take a sample in. If it's aready to go, then go ahead and bring it in. Each place does it a little different. Some like to know you're coming in, some don't care. Seems most prefer if you stop by earlier in the day. I always provide about 5-6 grams over so they can try it themselves. Never had anyone ask if it's been testing but sure wouldn't hurt. I'll probably start doing it if for anything my own knowledge. I also usually provide a 3x5 card with strain & growing info, if I start getting it tested - then I would for sure give that info too.
Once a relationship is established, it's even easier. Just make sure you maintain a quality product, especially the curing part! I posted a tutorial somewhere on this site, think it's under the convention thread but not positive.
On a safety/security note, be sure not to drive straight back to your grow area or home. Could just be urban rumors/legends, but supposedly people are following growers back to their spot and robbing them of both cash & product. If carrying more an 2oz, make sure you have your patients paperwork with you!
Reenster
04-23-2010, 12:38 PM
I find talking to a dispensary that I use and respect is the easiest may to make the connection. I have gone in a few times and if I like what I see it is easy to find out if they take vendor weed. I then might take them a sample of the strain I am interesting in selling and see what they think. If interested I will then bring an ounce or more depending and see if they are still interested.
I did this at first because I was afraid my grow was not up to standard. It can be difficult to be objective about your own stuff. I tend to be very critical of all aspects. It has worked for me but this is far from an income for me, it just off sets my expenses somewhat.
MEDEDCANNABIS
04-24-2010, 03:41 AM
i thought the street market all bought dispensaries:wtf: the black market as you put it is pretty much gone.
meded so you can mededicate to mededitate
budsndrums
04-24-2010, 05:44 PM
I just threw all my jars in the trunk, grabbed a recent Dispensary map, and drove around for a few hours and did some cold-calling. Got to meet some really cool people, (some not so cool but that is the way it goes), learned a lot about what they are looking for, and managed to sell almost everything I had by the end of the day. I have already gotten call-backs from two of the places I sold to, found someone who buys trim, and was offered discounts on meds. ALL IN ONE DAY! Of course I was a little nervous at first, but anything new like that you just have to dive into and see what happens. It was also kind of cool hearing the different comments on my product.
Just make sure your product is decent - one thing I heard over and over was how many people show up who are trying to get rid of "marginal" medicine. Mine was cured for six weeks and that does make a big difference.
TheReleafCenter
04-27-2010, 04:40 PM
We've noticed a dramatic decrease in the number of vendors showing up. :(
Weekend
04-27-2010, 04:48 PM
We've noticed a dramatic decrease in the number of vendors showing up. :(
bad for your selection, but thats the best news Ive heard in weeks!:yippee:
puntacometa
04-27-2010, 06:31 PM
We've noticed a dramatic decrease in the number of vendors showing up. :(
Not saying that you are, but if you are one of those dispensaries that are only offering $900.00-$950.00 per QP, that would be why.
;)
Weekend
04-27-2010, 06:41 PM
Not saying that you are, but if you are one of those dispensaries that are only offering $900.00-$950.00 per QP, that would be why.
;)
shit, ive seen alot say they wont pay over 800 no matter how good.....but thats when you just walk away:jointsmile:
puntacometa
04-27-2010, 08:14 PM
shit, ive seen alot say they wont pay over 800 no matter how good.....but thats when you just walk away:jointsmile:
Yep. The only time I ever sold product for that was after it had been through a Spinpro. Talk about a great way fuck up your bud. :eek:
It will be interesting to see what happens next winter when the growers have to move things indoors under lights again. If they are getting squeezed to lower the wholesale price, then the only way they will be able to make ends meet is to shitcan their HID's and high end nutes in favor of LEDS/T4's and Miracle Grow. The larfiness of the buds and overall quality hit will reflect this.
I'm in the middle of pricing a fairly large solar array to give me some slack so that I can keep using HID's without the $2k p/mo utility bills. Not sure if it will be worth it.
:(
vegetabongrips
04-27-2010, 08:59 PM
shit, ive seen alot say they wont pay over 800 no matter how good.....but thats when you just walk away:jointsmile:
:wtf:
Information like this would be excellent to know in reviews of places. I wouldn't want to support a dispensary which was shafting its growers.
TheReleafCenter
04-27-2010, 09:01 PM
Not saying that you are, but if you are one of those dispensaries that are only offering $900.00-$950.00 per QP, that would be why.
;)
That's how much we ask for our Jack Flash. Maybe we should be greedier. :pimp:
puntacometa
04-27-2010, 09:48 PM
That's how much we ask for our Jack Flash. Maybe we should be greedier. :pimp:
I guess that would depend on your Jack Flash.
;)
TheReleafCenter
04-27-2010, 10:23 PM
Touché. Check the Jack thread.
puntacometa
04-28-2010, 12:47 AM
Touché. Check the Jack thread.
Will do. I apologize for my attitude. I just reread my posts here and I seem to have donned an asshole suit over the course of this thread. I'm just getting tired of anticipating which hoops I will need to jump through next.
Peace,
:cool:
puntacometa
04-28-2010, 12:58 AM
:wtf:
Information like this would be excellent to know in reviews of places. I wouldn't want to support a dispensary which was shafting its growers.
It's not shafting the grower if the grower agrees to it. Quality will be a big factor in determining what dispensaries will pay. If it's something special and the product brings them customers they wouldn't normally get, they will consider the price worth paying and so will their customers. It's also not shafting the grower if a dispensary grows their own and sells it for whatever they want.
TheReleafCenter
04-28-2010, 01:10 AM
Will do. I apologize for my attitude. I just reread my posts here and I seem to have donned an asshole suit over the course of this thread. I'm just getting tired of anticipating which hoops I will need to jump through next.
Peace,
:cool:
I didn't get that at all, we're cool. You seem to bring a lot of knowledge to the board. You should see some of the posts I have to read and respond to on other sites. :wtf:
vegetabongrips
04-28-2010, 02:36 AM
It's not shafting the grower if the grower agrees to it. Quality will be a big factor in determining what dispensaries will pay. If it's something special and the product brings them customers they wouldn't normally get, they will consider the price worth paying and so will their customers. It's also not shafting the grower if a dispensary grows their own and sells it for whatever they want.
Right, except in the example described they're not considering the quality. And they're probably still charging the customers as if they are.
I don't mean "it'd be nice to know" as if it should be a normal thing to know about a business btw ;) But if a place is saying to the growers that they'll only pay 'x', end of story...that just isn't the kind of place I would want to support regardless if the grower is free to go somewhere else. Hopefully they will, and the quality will suffer and hopefully we'd know about that...it's just nice to know the inside scoop so that you don't have to get to that point.
puntacometa
04-28-2010, 06:03 AM
[quote=vegetabongrips]Right, except in the example described they're not considering the quality. And they're probably still charging the customers as if they are.
This does happen, but in my experience, there are times when the patient is as much or more a part of the problem as is the dispensary owner. When a dispensary can't move good product because a goodly number of clueless patients want something purple because purple pot looks cool, the dispensary owner is going to buy purple pot and price it as high as he can get away with, no matter how mediocre it may be, because he's got to cover his ass on his overhead, which includes all that really good green/gold bud he paid for that he's having a problem moving because the eye candy crowd thinks purple pot is cool because it's purple.:wtf:
I don't mean "it'd be nice to know" as if it should be a normal thing to know about a business btw ;) But if a place is saying to the growers that they'll only pay 'x', end of story...that just isn't the kind of place I would want to support regardless if the grower is free to go somewhere else.
That's the rub isn't it? I predict that this will start happening PDQ now that the writing is on the wall.
Hopefully they will, and the quality will suffer and hopefully we'd know about that...it's just nice to know the inside scoop so that you don't have to get to that point.
These laws are just another attempt to pervert the free market in favor of a political agenda. Supply and demand economics is formulaic and predictable.
:postreadrulez:
You fuck with the free market like this and all sorts of other really stupid and negative shit starts to happen.
budsndrums
05-01-2010, 03:10 PM
[quote=puntacometa][QUOTE]
This does happen, but in my experience, there are times when the patient is as much or more a part of the problem as is the dispensary owner. When a dispensary can't move good product because a goodly number of clueless patients want something purple because purple pot looks cool, the dispensary owner is going to buy purple pot and price it as high as he can get away with, no matter how mediocre it may be, because he's got to cover his ass on his overhead, which includes all that really good green/gold bud he paid for that he's having a problem moving because the eye candy crowd thinks purple pot is cool because it's purple.:wtf:
****************************SNIP****************** ***
That is probably why I get more for the purple than anything else (even the WW, which is probably overall better medicine; but not 20% better ;))
You guys above are right though, there are quite a few that told me straight up they won't pay more than $800 a QP for ANYTHING... those go to the bottom of the list under 'desperation' sales... since Releaf says there are less vendors right now, I am looking forward to the next harvest - I may just have to pop in to give them a visit when the time comes
budsndrums
05-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Also curious about this...
Also, what is the minimum increment they will consider picking up? Would they purchase just 1-2 oz?
Hi lampost - yes I sold just one ounce to a couple of places; one of those called me back a couple of days later but I had to tell them 'sorry, all gone, snooze you lose (OK not in those words)'.
Also, I guess legally you are not supposed to have more than two ounces on you at a time, but , well, you know....
oh and BTW puntacometa, like your sig - those words are coming true as we speak
lampost
05-01-2010, 05:03 PM
The more I read this the more the dispensary model just bothers me...
They're gonna buy my 4oz @ $200/oz and then sell it at $400/oz!! We all know that's the case as most dispensaries are in the $50/eighth range ($400/oz). Just doesn't add up to me! So the dispensary gets to make the same amount of profit as the grower even though they pretty much don't do shit for work! They put the buds in a jar and wait for someone to come in and buy them...
I think I'll look a little harder before going to a dispensary and getting hosed...
Klonzinc
05-01-2010, 07:01 PM
The more I read this the more the dispensary model just bothers me...
They're gonna buy my 4oz @ $200/oz and then sell it at $400/oz!! We all know that's the case as most dispensaries are in the $50/eighth range ($400/oz). Just doesn't add up to me! So the dispensary gets to make the same amount of profit as the grower even though they pretty much don't do shit for work! They put the buds in a jar and wait for someone to come in and buy them...
I think I'll look a little harder before going to a dispensary and getting hosed...
That is how it goes, therefore I put a 200.00 trim on it, used to trim nice and remove all wood just for 275.00 but not anymore............what a shame huh.
budsndrums
05-01-2010, 07:06 PM
That is how it goes, therefore I put a 200.00 trim on it, used to trim nice and remove all wood just for 275.00 but not anymore............what a shame huh.
That is a good idea; I think I will now keep a 'dispensary' batch and a separate well trimmed batch. If I am not going to get compensated for it, why go to all the extra trouble for a perfect trim?
TurboALLWD
05-01-2010, 10:18 PM
That is how it goes, therefore I put a 200.00 trim on it, used to trim nice and remove all wood just for 275.00 but not anymore............what a shame huh.
lol problem is they will sell it that way too, and ultimately pass that cost on to the patient. I do agree with ya though, their prices should come down. And I'm talking about a lot more than just 5 dollars an 8th like some good ol dispensaries have done. And if their going to hype up some strain with real "medical" value, you'd think they could atleast prove to the patient that it was tested rather than having to just take their word on it. Oh well, theres others doing it right out there, I'll be supporting them if I ever run out.
Zedleppelin
05-11-2010, 04:37 AM
I just wish people would quit taking $800 for a QP, its not like dispensaries are charging less, they are just paying less. If growers would just walk out when told they wont pay more than $800 for anything they would start paying what they should real fast. Most could give a rats ass about quality, and some wouldnt know quality if they saw it.
copobo
05-11-2010, 04:57 AM
when this bill passes, the price is going way up. throw it in the fridge.
Kartel
05-11-2010, 01:13 PM
8 months ago, shops were paying folks I know as high as 1300-1400. In my experience, the price is not down to 800 except in the shops that carry only junk. Any shop that has offered me 8 or 9 hundred has just been laughed at. If I was throwing serious weight, lb's and such, then I'd happily come down. That said I wonder what d9 pays cause their prices are pretty low.....
COzigzag
05-11-2010, 01:49 PM
I just wish people would quit taking $800 for a QP, its not like dispensaries are charging less, they are just paying less. If growers would just walk out when told they wont pay more than $800 for anything they would start paying what they should real fast. Most could give a rats ass about quality, and some wouldnt know quality if they saw it.
A friend of mine is a vendor and one dispensary who buys from him on a regular basis flat out told him they had stocked their shelves with some low price product from California and wouldn't need anymore product at this time.
I didn't catch the name of the dispensary as I was too disgusted over the Cali purchase.
Klonzinc
05-11-2010, 02:12 PM
A friend of mine is a vendor and one dispensary who buys from him on a regular basis flat out told him they had stocked their shelves with some low price product from California and wouldn't need anymore product at this time.
I didn't catch the name of the dispensary as I was too disgusted over the Cali purchase.
Hey Cozigzag you should find out the name so we can spread the boycott word. We need to get Cali weed out and keep this local, to support local. If they want Cali weed then they need to get the genetics and grow it here.:rastasmoke:
Kartel
05-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Hey Cozigzag you should find out the name so we can spread the boycott word. We need to get Cali weed out and keep this local, to support local. If they want Cali weed then they need to get the genetics and grow it here.:rastasmoke:
6 months ago, a shop told me that. However, vendors were taking this guy for a ride. I got caught up and even took him for one. We got what we deserved, and for that reason, I won't out him here. :hippy:
Klonzinc
05-11-2010, 02:27 PM
6 months ago, a shop told me that. However, vendors were taking this guy for a ride. I got caught up and even took him for one. We got what we deserved, and for that reason, I won't out him here. :hippy:
sounds like Karma caught up with all, if a disp is going to sell my product for 250 a zip I have no problem selling them product for 200, it is when I see my product for 400 a zip I say no to the 200 a zip, I will sell directly to the patient for the 200 before the disp. This is why I am always robbing peter to pay paul......lol
colagal
05-11-2010, 02:53 PM
We've noticed a dramatic decrease in the number of vendors showing up. :(
This whole thread seems academic after HB1284 comes into play. I think dispensaries will need to be very careful regarding how they obtain their meds, since the rules state that they either grow it themselves or obtain from other dispensaries. Otherwise, they risk losing their license, and maybe more. If I am wrong, someone enlighten me as to how vendors will operate legally other than being employed by a dispensary - however that works?
Klonzinc
05-11-2010, 03:04 PM
We've noticed a dramatic decrease in the number of vendors showing up. :(
IMO that is because us small growers can not afford to sell our product for less than 250.00 an ounce, I have never had complaints on my product with exception that we do not have large colas(my comment on that was that we take pride in selling nice trimmed meds and not the wood),actually it has been quite the opposite, we have bubblegum that smells like bubblegum, blueberry that smells like blueberry, manatuska that smells like chocolate and our product has a minium 6 wk cure. But now most call and only want to pay 200.00 per ounce and still expect the quality trim and high grade potency, the problem with this is my cost does not go down, therefore the majority of us small growers will only sell to those willing to pay for the quality and have found a few dedicated buyers and only deal with them as we know we will be treated fairly.
TheReleafCenter
05-11-2010, 04:48 PM
If I am wrong, someone enlighten me as to how vendors will operate legally other than being employed by a dispensary - however that works?
If and when it passes, you're right, that's the only way. Private, under five patient caregivers, will no longer be able to vend their extra meds.
But now most call and only want to pay 200.00 per ounce and still expect the quality trim and high grade potency, the problem with this is my cost does not go down, therefore the majority of us small growers will only sell to those willing to pay for the quality and have found a few dedicated buyers and only deal with them as we know we will be treated fairly.
I hear what you're saying and I think $800 is lowballing at its worst. We have select caregivers we work with that always have top shelf meds and are paid top shelf prices. I think the problem a lot of caregivers have is that they always used to set their own prices and were insulated from market pressure. Dispensaries are not.
We're responsible for more than just putting buds in jars. Sure, you have a rough idea of what we pay for an ounce, but not of our overheard. We have to give our patients free meds, too. We have to give extra discounts to patients we caregive for. We have to offset the costs of wellness services we give out for free. We're the ones who have to repurpose your shake for little to no profit. These aren't huge margins, guys.
Most of the experienced growers I know are still turning a profit on what they do. The most frequent complaints I hear are from novice growers who thought they'd just expand what they had already and are dealing with a host of problems that comes with getting bigger. Or from people who just put too much time and effort into a bud for marginal improvements in quality.
Klonzinc
05-11-2010, 05:44 PM
If and when it passes, you're right, that's the only way. Private, under five patient caregivers, will no longer be able to vend their extra meds.
I hear what you're saying and I think $800 is lowballing at its worst. We have select caregivers we work with that always have top shelf meds and are paid top shelf prices. I think the problem a lot of caregivers have is that they always used to set their own prices and were insulated from market pressure. Dispensaries are not.
We're responsible for more than just putting buds in jars. Sure, you have a rough idea of what we pay for an ounce, but not of our overheard. We have to give our patients free meds, too. We have to give extra discounts to patients we caregive for. We have to offset the costs of wellness services we give out for free. We're the ones who have to repurpose your shake for little to no profit. These aren't huge margins, guys.
Most of the experienced growers I know are still turning a profit on what they do. The most frequent complaints I hear are from novice growers who thought they'd just expand what they had already and are dealing with a host of problems that comes with getting bigger. Or from people who just put too much time and effort into a bud for marginal improvements in quality.
I have been selling meds to patients for 9+ years, way before dispensaries entered the picture and I could have gotten 400.00 but would only charge 250.00. My patients always get free meds and edibles and I can guarantee there is no dispensary giving the amount we give out free, I agree with what you are saying and yes 800.00 is in insult to growers with multiple years of exp., I also understand your overhead and I know all to well about overhead. but to pay 800.00 for a qp and then sell it for over 400.00 is a flat slap in the face, and if you are paying top dollar to your vendors and getting shake then shame on them, and you for not scolding them. Experienced growers sell bud without shake, or at least I do.
I guess in a way I take what you say as an insult, and that is because you have stereotyped caregivers as not being capable of understanding your costs, this may be an over reaction on my behalf, but come on we all are not just uneducated pot growers. We all have overhead.
TheReleafCenter
05-11-2010, 07:02 PM
First, I can only speak for ourselves when I say that we don't sell $400 ounces. We take hits all over the place, like on our free meds/edibles/services, and on a larger scale because we deal with more patients. So you can't just extrapolate out on an 1/8th basis, no one makes that money. I'd wager our overhead and your overhead are on much different scales, as well, with licensing/insurance/security/payroll/advertising to boot. Shake is more just a deterioration issue with stock... if it's in a jar, it's going to loosen up a little bit. We have to deal with everything that is left behind.
Sorry if what I posted came across as smug or pompous. I feel like there is this huge misconception about the true cost of operating a dispensary and that we tend to get the short end of the stick. At times that means I get a little defensive. I don't believe there is a sustainable way to run a dispensary and charge the prices that a private caregiver can, or else we'd see one. Ultimately, it falls on the patient to decide if the ancillary services provided by a MMD beats those of a smaller caregiver. And so far they have, and in droves.
Klonzinc
05-11-2010, 07:13 PM
First, I can only speak for ourselves when I say that we don't sell $400 ounces. We take hits all over the place, like on our free meds/edibles/services, and on a larger scale because we deal with more patients. So you can't just extrapolate out on an 1/8th basis, no one makes that money. I'd wager our overhead and your overhead are on much different scales, as well, with licensing/insurance/security/payroll/advertising to boot. Shake is more just a deterioration issue with stock... if it's in a jar, it's going to loosen up a little bit. We have to deal with everything that is left behind.
Sorry if what I posted came across as smug or pompous. I feel like there is this huge misconception about the true cost of operating a dispensary and that we tend to get the short end of the stick. At times that means I get a little defensive. I don't believe there is a sustainable way to run a dispensary and charge the prices that a private caregiver can, or else we'd see one. Ultimately, it falls on the patient to decide if the ancillary services provided by a MMD beats those of a smaller caregiver. And so far they have, and in droves.
I guess that would depend on the size of a caregivers patient base and if they liscensed as a wholesaler to sell meds to dispensaries as I did for my clone business, so we are similar as far as overhead, employees, insurance, rent, security etc.
sittingone
05-11-2010, 10:20 PM
I am curious what the process is for keeping a paper trail for tax purposes.
Is all information taken on the seller and then sent an 1099 at the end of the year?
Are receipts exchanged?
Does the seller have to have a business set up?
I would imagine it is different at different dispensaries, but I am talking about nicer places with quality like D9, ReLeaf, etc. where they will expect quality and pay decently for it.
Thanks!
sittingone
Delta9Billy
05-12-2010, 12:04 AM
8 months ago, shops were paying folks I know as high as 1300-1400. In my experience, the price is not down to 800 except in the shops that carry only junk. Any shop that has offered me 8 or 9 hundred has just been laughed at. If I was throwing serious weight, lb's and such, then I'd happily come down. That said I wonder what d9 pays cause their prices are pretty low.....
:vader1:
What we pay for medicine varies but we like to keep it in the $1000 per QP range because even with our low prices were trying to go down just a touch more. We also found out that with our overhead( which is probably pretty low as compared to some other dispensaries) that if we pay over $4500 that we actually come close to losing money, especially at our members prices. However, we do acquire some meds at a loss from time to time because we, like our patients, love the best and will happily pay for it. We do have a couple of amazing growers that go even lower then $1000 per QP because they see what we are doing and are trying to help us keep the dream alive. Actually, A lot of our best meds come at slightly lower prices from people that are really trying to make a difference.
As one of our in house growers, I give my meds to Delta9 at an even cheaper price because I enjoy thinking that im actually helping people instead of making them broke, which is exactly what Big Pharma was doing in the first place. I also like to make organic butter, BHO, or edibles out of my sucker buds and sweetleaf and then give it to patients for free because the look that I get from people when I do... well that shit will never get old.
As a grower and a purchaser for a dispensary, I've seen both ends of this argument and I think both sides have a right to be saying what they are saying. Being a part of a dispensary, I can tell you that it takes a ridiculous amount of time, effort, money and a love for what you do to be able to run a quality dispensary. The amount of money required to even keep our doors open is grossly underestimated by the internet crowd. With HB-1284 coming into play it is going to cost us close to 40-50 grand just to be in compliance with the commercial warehouse aspect of it (Worst part being that this will definetely affect the quality of our medicine IMO because as we've all seen: warehouse herb pretty much blows balls) I'm not sure about some of the Trustifarian, Californian, or otherwise shadily funded dispensaries out there, but yet another "registration fee" process that is gonna cost as much as this is, just to keep our doors open, is going to be damn hard to come up with for all the small boutique stores. Unfortunately, I feel like that includes all the best shops in town. With our low prices, the amount of meds we give out for terminal patient Experiment programs, and overhead these reported stacks that we are stacking just doesn't exist. If we were making all this loot im pretty sure I'd already be living on mountain at steamboat, spending the rest of my life boozing with snow bunnies and being an all around bum... As a grower with 7+ years experience I sometimes get a little pissed seeing some of these 100,000 watt grow operations that are actually getting paid more for a QP of some bullshit Generic strain compared to my Boutique meds. Then I Realize that I dont have a huge grow operation nor do I need more money for my QP's because I have successfully evaded turning into the douchebag fucks. Im pretty sure most of these huge grows are sitting on the shitty ass meds they are pumping out anyhow because patients are finally starting to recognize what good meds look like. I'm sure once the craze dies down we will see a lot of these money hungry warehouses biting the dust either from lack of sales or pest infestation from lack of care. At that point hopefully we can get these places growing mid grade meds down to mid grade prices. Im slightly skeptical though considering that some people out there are so focused on making money that they wouldn't even give their mom's free meds. It's cool though, I'll take care of their moms for them... I'll tale care of those ladies all night long. :trooper:
throatstick
05-12-2010, 12:28 AM
The more I read this the more the dispensary model just bothers me...
They're gonna buy my 4oz @ $200/oz and then sell it at $400/oz!! We all know that's the case as most dispensaries are in the $50/eighth range ($400/oz). Just doesn't add up to me! So the dispensary gets to make the same amount of profit as the grower even though they pretty much don't do shit for work! They put the buds in a jar and wait for someone to come in and buy them...
I think I'll look a little harder before going to a dispensary and getting hosed...
well they may not be doing the work but they do have to pay all that extra over head.i think they are alot better than the middle man on the street.think of this,you grow do all the work you get set up with a middle man cause you don't want to stick your neck out there.you hand a lb to them they have it for 15 mins and make almost as much as you do for only holding it for 15 mins.then that same person that you setup with a gravy train then starts wanting to ask you for more as if they are being ripped off from u lmao.then they ask you to front em a lb then they stiff ya lmao.happens everyday.
throatstick
05-12-2010, 12:38 AM
IMO that is because us small growers can not afford to sell our product for less than 250.00 an ounce, I have never had complaints on my product with exception that we do not have large colas(my comment on that was that we take pride in selling nice trimmed meds and not the wood),actually it has been quite the opposite, we have bubblegum that smells like bubblegum, blueberry that smells like blueberry, manatuska that smells like chocolate and our product has a minium 6 wk cure. But now most call and only want to pay 200.00 per ounce and still expect the quality trim and high grade potency, the problem with this is my cost does not go down, therefore the majority of us small growers will only sell to those willing to pay for the quality and have found a few dedicated buyers and only deal with them as we know we will be treated fairly.
true
throatstick
05-12-2010, 01:17 AM
I am curious what the process is for keeping a paper trail for tax purposes.
Is all information taken on the seller and then sent an 1099 at the end of the year?
Are receipts exchanged?
Does the seller have to have a business set up?
I would imagine it is different at different dispensaries, but I am talking about nicer places with quality like D9, ReLeaf, etc. where they will expect quality and pay decently for it.
Thanks!
sittingone
the seller has to get the tx id # from the shop so the tax is not put on them but the customer.
PolishPotFarmer
05-12-2010, 01:25 PM
The best way to approach the dispensaries is going to be with your own favorite choice of LUBE
COzigzag
05-12-2010, 01:47 PM
The best way to approach the dispensaries is going to be with your own favorite choice of LUBE
Thanks for the laugh, I needed it!
:S2:
ThaiBuddhaMan
05-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Hahaha! I can hear it now...
Dispensary: So what's the name of this strain?
Vender: Astrolube
;)
correction-
Vendor: Purple Astrolube Kush
PolishPotFarmer
05-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Hahaha! I can hear it now...
Dispensary: So what's the name of this strain?
Vender: Astrolube
;)
correction-
Vendor: Purple Astrolube Kush
That's hilarious
TurboALLWD
05-12-2010, 03:32 PM
The best way to approach the dispensaries is going to be with your own favorite choice of LUBE
HAHAHA LAWL ROFLMAO. :S3: That's really funny but its the truth, most are greedy bastards. Can't wait for the patients to put them out of business!
throatstick
05-12-2010, 08:48 PM
HAHAHA LAWL ROFLMAO. :S3: That's really funny but its the truth, most are greedy bastards. Can't wait for the patients to put them out of business!
yea it should have been left to the patients tho not a law.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.